The oportunistic pro-dater/scammer

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I'm sorry everyone, but I still cannot stop thinking about Handicam's experience. There are so many different routes you can take with this subject that I had to start a new topic

"Professional Dater"...nice euphemism for a hooker you never get to have sex with. Well at least you get the belittling, humiliation and emasculation for free! Certainly not one of the oldest cons in the book, but still very much alive. It would seem to me that such a profession could be quite short lived once your reputation became known or you get caught p-teasing the wrong guy one day.

With this in mind, I think that any woman capable of being labeled a pro-dater, at some point or another in her petty larceny career would have to realize that maybe there is much more to be had by actually hooking up with one of these "Joe's", rather than just bilking him for chump change for a few days.

With this thought in mind, I believe the term "pro-dater" is grossly inaccurate. These women are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination and passing up the opportunity to bilk a legitimate "catch" for years has to beat ratting the streets in taxicab's for cigarette money. Why would any woman in this situation pass up a bonafide gravy train? This is where I have a problem with the term pro-dater, a more accurate term in my opinion would be an "opportunistic gold digger". For example, let's say this agency girl is corresponding with 10 good candidates. Then one week in the not too distant future, two of her most aggressive suitors come riding into town to sweep little Natasha right out of her cute little ballet slippers and off to some glorious vision of suburbia stateside. No more hustling the streets for 200 or 300 bucks a night, now, she can spend that on lunch if she wants to.

Granted I have never witnessed anything like this in my life before, still I can't imagine that my assumptions could be all wrong here. This is what I think happens, the agency, or even the woman, sets up prearranged dates with her men most likely based on the level of importance she attaches to each one. The best candidates first. This way she does not have to sift through the losers in the cheap seats. She meets them, sizes them up, scores them and then lets them score if they are in the running. This process can go on a while. Why would a 25 year old woman with the face of a goddess and a body like Angelina Jolie have to settle for a homely looking grocery store manager from Poughkeepsie who is 30 years her senior and makes 30 grand a year?  So what if she has to go through 10, 20 or even 50 rejects before she gets her grand prize. Maybe her prince will never arrive, who knows maybe this is when they turn into pro-dater hags.

In some respects,this is how I not only view the women whose profiles and pictures are listed on the agency websites, but also the guys who correspond with them. I mean who is fooling who here? Of course the women are sifting and sorting holding out for the best offer, but so are the guys! Everyone in the game is an opportunist.

[I/O]

Everyone in the game is an opportunist.

With the result often being something like this...................



Nevertheless, your proposal would turn Pro Dater into Pro Wife. Shock horror, like that doesn't happen? Furthermore, many of the "games" I have seen in the FSU and other developing countries perplexed me for a while also. Why hustle for a few hundred when you can have the life of Riley? Therein lies part of the answer as to why these places are still developing. 5 minute thinking and medium to long term planning is a foreign concept.

If you spend time in Russia (and others), one annoyance is customer service or lack there of and although it is changing now, the issue is born partly in 5 minute thinking. Get what I can out of this one now and never consider the future until it arrives. Little thought of delighting a customer to the extent of having them return.

Just to add a twist to this, Russia, remains a conundrum as it does in so many ways. Chess, a popular game played exceptionally well by many in Russia is all about forward planning and patience. Russian military generals have been commented on by their counterparts for excellent strategic panning ability and yet have been equally commented upon for their impatient and poor execution of those plans. Why is this so?

One conclusion I arrived at was it is thinking born in economic adversity which requires instant gratification, a dollar now to put food on the table tonight so to say. A few centuries of this and it has pervaded broader thinking?  

[SMS60]

First off, a woman is only an opportunist or digger if the man allows it to happen. One man could label Natasha a scammer while another would call her a dud of a date and eject.

If men would put their balls back in the sack and expect mutual respect there would be very few scammers and diggers.

[Shadow]

I/O seems to underestimate the money which is being made from these activities. Not only does it bring a nice dollar today, but it gives the chance of finding that life-long income stream as well. After all the last guy who meets her will never find out she was called a pro-dater unless he comes across pictures posted without her permission  .

Now about pro-daters. Contrary to what seems the general idea, they are not all the same. Thing is that while FSUW are known to be blunt, it is not in their habit to tell a guy who has flown half across the world that they will never want to date him again to his face. Unfortunately most men are not taking any subtle clues, if they could they would probably not even be there. For them just flying a couple of thousand miles means they are entitled to everlasting love and devotion from the woman they meet, and nothing except a hard knock is going to change their mind.

When subtle clues do not work, the women remember what their friends told as stories and decide to make the most of it. As long are you are having to keep up with a loser, why not get something out of it ? Very ethical ? No. Opportunistic? Yes.
Does it mean they are not looking for the right guy ? No.

A whole other level is the real pro-dater. Her sole purpose of meeting the men is to extract as much cash from them as possible, with the lowest amount of effort. She will arrange interpreters, drivers, restaurants and several shops where she has pre-arranged deals running. Even such a woman might be interested if the prospect turns out to be a provider of luxury for life, however mostly she does not need the money already.

[I/O]

I/O seems to underestimate the money which is being made from these activities.

Show me a comfortably retired pro dater?

[Shadow]

Show me a comfortably retired pro dater?

Show me one that is NOT comfortably retired. 

[I/O]

Show me one that is NOT comfortably retired.

Not your best but anyway, that's beside the point. At the end of the day the OP has a point, what these chicky bubs make screwing a few punters is a round of drinks in the bigger scheme of things.

[viking]

I/O. Some of these gals do very well for themselves. I met a pro-dater in St. Pete. She invited me to her flat. Beautiful place. The floors in the bathroom were heated. Not too shabby? And a florist I knew there told me a story of a woman who had her suitors buy her flats before she dumped them. A flat!!! She had 3 of them. I guess some of these gals know how to zero in on big bucks not just a pint.

[3T_Ventus]

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And everybody on this thread: I will keep this in mind. Pure gold!

[I/O]

a florist I knew there told me a story of a woman who had her suitors buy her flats before she dumped them. A flat!!! She had 3 of them. I guess some of these gals know how to zero in on big bucks not just a pint.

Sure, but for the most part, this group aren't the type the two dime western punter gets anywhere near. They'll be riding in an SEL 500 down Nevsky but I doubt you'll see them sharing a seat in a trolley bus.

[Misha]

And a florist I knew there told me a story of a woman who had her suitors buy her flats before she dumped them. A flat!!! She had 3 of them.

FSU urban legend? Or the old adage is right about fools and their money  :evil: