Two "CLASSIC" PG-13 messages from Dream-Marriage! :D

[veritas]

Hey folks, it's Kevin again!  

DON'T worry ... I HAVEN'T been spending any more time on D-M ...  

These are just two old TOTALLY UNSOLICITED messages that I saved
because they're "CLASSIC" examples of what guys can expect on D-M ...

And NO, I did NOT respond to EITHER of 'em -- not even with my OWN
unique, patented, Ukrainian-style, PG-13 "sex-fantasy form letter" that
I devised for JUST such occasions as THIS ...  

These came from the following "schoolgirl" -- literally! -- who's all of 19 ...  

http://www.dream-marriage.com/profile-Hot-Ukrainian-Bride-Vera-870003.html

Enjoy!!!  

Kevin

------------------ MESSAGE #1 (out of MANY others from this "girl") --------------------

Hello my honey Kevin!

Let's you and I dream a little! Do you mind?
 
Imagine if you sleep and nothing you see colorful dreams, suddenly you hear in your room door opens, and a dream you see me, I am wearing a coat and long boots! I go and sit down on the bed and begin to wake you with hot kisses and gentle touches! You would be surprised??

And then I take off my coat, and underneath a beautiful, lacy, black lingerie! Do you like black lace underwear?

Then I start to kiss your lips, gently purring in your ear, I want you madly! I focused on every centimeter of your body,
I'll gently touch her hot lips, sinking lower and lower! And then I play with you his playful tongue! Do you mind?

You would not want to pursue our dreams?

Your playful pussy Vera


[... But it gets BETTER, folks ... Because THAT message was quickly followed by ...]

------------------ MESSAGE #2 (out of MANY others from this "girl") --------------------

Hello my sweet Kevin !!

I'd like to kiss you, cling to your body, covering him with kisses! First I would like to kiss your lips long and passionately, your tongue would penetrate into my mouth and I greedily catching moments of ecstasy, as you - I was one never kissed!

Then I get to your little boy such a large and beautiful, the best I've ever seen in my life! I want each cell to cover his tender kiss, to caress the tongue up and down, then descending to the root to ascending to the head, I gently take his hand. Then I'll take it in her mouth, pressing his tongue, I'll suck it with all the love, to what I can and as soon as I can!
I so want you to have been very good to me! So you felt unearthly bliss! I want you to be entered into me! That we were inseparable! With you! I want to finish with you, I want to go mad, because I know that this will be the best sex of my life! Your boy is in me so suddenly and strongly! What a wonderful feeling, to feel him there, all the cells of the body, feel its aftershocks, and then pulse when your hot sperm burn everything inside! My head, brain, body blows huge fireworks luck! This will be the best that I experienced in my life! I think you do too?

Would you like to experience it all with me? "What would you like to do with me?"

Your playful girl Vera


[... WAIT!!!  You mean she's seen OTHER "little boys" before??     "The best sex of her LIFE"??  ]

[... Is this not just "CLASSIC"??  Do y'all think I should have RESPONDED??  She DOES have that
"schoolgirl thing" goin' on!!!  And there's just NUTHIN' like a schoolgirl 27 years younger than me!!!  ]

[3T_Ventus]

'Hello my honey Kevin' is the beginning of a...scam. Kevin, most all scam letters start this way. Three months of experience and have concluded that there are more weeds than wheat on the agency I am on. You search among the weeds for wheat instead of uprooting the weeds from the wheat... 

[Steamer]

It's all harmless, even entertaining as long as YOU understand it for what it is (pure BS and an attempt to scam) and don't take it serious. Delightful reading!

[3T_Ventus]

Some tips and maybe worth trying:

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=5901.0

Kevin, I am still searching for the other story

[facetrock]

newkt... let it go man...let it go

[veritas]

newkt... let it go man...let it go

WHAT???  I thought this was pretty good STUFF -- "delightful reading", as it were ... 

But OK, I guess this is the last NEW topic that I have to post about D-M ...
Hereafter, I'll (attempt to) restrict myself to RESPONDING about D-M ... OK? 

But one more thing ... It says near the top of my screen, "This topic has not been rated!"

NOT so -- I personally rated it "PG-13" ... 

[Faux Pas]

newkt... let it go man...let it go

DITTO

newkt, really, it's not good stuff. Merely marketing pieces to separate you from your money. Put everything down and just walk away. You're on the path to serious women at EMs. Focus your energy there. If you are doing it right it will require all of it. Focus and walk away.

[veritas]

DITTO

newkt, really, it's not good stuff. Merely marketing pieces to separate you from your money. Put everything down and just walk away. You're on the path to serious women at EMs. Focus your energy there. If you are doing it right it will require all of it. Focus and walk away.

Thanks, Faux Pas ... You're right -- I will ...

Kevin

[kievstar]

Use EM's but beware there are many scammers on there as well and this time there is no agency helping you out.  These are women who speak very good English and juggle men with ease.  There are good girls as well but do not think EM's is all bells and whistles.  You will find many of the women on EM in Kiev also on Anastiaweb, Kiev Connections, UAmiss Kiev. etc. 

[veritas]

Use EM's but beware there are many scammers on there as well and this time there is no agency helping you out.  These are women who speak very good English and juggle men with ease.  There are good girls as well but do not think EM's is all bells and whistles.  You will find many of the women on EM in Kiev also on Anastiaweb, Kiev Connections, UAmiss Kiev. etc. 

Thanks, kievstar ... That's VERY useful to know ...

Kevin

[Faux Pas]

Use EM's but beware there are many scammers on there as well and this time there is no agency helping you out.  These are women who speak very good English and juggle men with ease.  There are good girls as well but do not think EM's is all bells and whistles.  You will find many of the women on EM in Kiev also on Anastiaweb, Kiev Connections, UAmiss Kiev. etc. 

By the time I joined EMs I was a bit scammer savvy. Having already dealt with several and loaded with forum advice 

Of the 60-75 women I communicated with by email, phone or EOI, none I suspected were scammers. If any of them were, none played that hand anywhere in the communication stage. Are there scammers on EMs? I'm pretty sure of it but, I would go so far as to say they are not crawling on it as they are other sites.

Obviously, EMs site would lend itself more to gold diggers and GTGs or one woman scams but, as far as I know, I did not encounter any.

IMO, for a 40+ year old man, being contacted by a woman in her twenties (more specifically early to mid) 9 times of 10 she is a scammer if she is real at all

[ECOCKS]

FP:

You might consider though that your search parameters, combined with your own scammer radar and judgment, was already eliminating scammers before you established that group of 60-75. Also those who dropped off or were dropped may have been part of the filtering process.

[veritas]

Obviously, EMs site would lend itself more to gold diggers and GTGs or one woman scams but, as far as I know, I did not encounter any.

Faux Pas, did you mean "GCG"?  Perhaps it was obvious to most, but I'm still new to the lingo here ...

Kevin

[ECOCKS]

GTG = good time girls

GCG = green card girls

[Faux Pas]

FP:

You might consider though that your search parameters, combined with your own scammer radar and judgment, was already eliminating scammers before you established that group of 60-75. Also those who dropped off or were dropped may have been part of the filtering process.

Of that I have no doubt. I saw quite a few I suspected but, did not waste my time even responding to those that contacted me first. I had my parameters and didn't waiver. This I'm relatively sure excluded "some"

Faux Pas, did you mean "GCG"?  Perhaps it was obvious to most, but I'm still new to the lingo here ...

Kevin

IMO, they are all one in the same. Quite honestly for the most part I only had ladies in two categories, serious and not serious 

[Blues Fairy]

I saw quite a few I suspected but, did not waste my time even responding to those that contacted me first. I had my parameters and didn't waiver. This I'm relatively sure excluded "some"

IMO, they are all one in the same. Quite honestly for the most part I only had ladies in two categories, serious and not serious 

Did you throw those who contacted you first automatically into the "not serious" category?  A lady never makes the first move? 

[Faux Pas]

Did you throw those who contacted you first automatically into the "not serious" category?  A lady never makes the first move? 

No I didn't. In fact a couple of the ladies that contacted me first were some of the final few I communicated with. Some I didn't categorize until much later. Most all under 30 I didn't respond to even if they met all my other criteria. I sure some of them were wonderful and serious. Too much difference in age for me

[Jumper]

Not to add to your paranoia,
but plenty of women have profiles on EM and DM..



Kevin-

you are on EM now and should be ok..


but  i have to ask you,

  you likely get 100 or 200 messages a day on DM


sure a few like those you posted.

but certainly some *34yo* (just  a number)  intelligent attractive woman with  normal job ,(maybe  a child ) ,normal photos in her profile and sent to you.
and who has written you a thougtful, well thought out introduction letter.
 
one you can tell has put some real thought behind it, and has read your profile..

(when i was a member there, i had probably 8,000 letters there, certainly from that  plenty are sincere to look into)

While i am not advocating this DM agency..
i also know that out of hundreds ,,of letters per day ,that you have gotten real letters ,
ones you SHOULD be able to tell are sincere in thier initial intent.,and written by a normal woman simply looking to make a connection.

while i find the one you posted amusing ..
(and had plenty of similar)

you certainly could be answering some real women,,that are writing you there.

I would think at least 20 of the 100 you get per day, you dint either read well enough ,or where too distracted by the schoolgirl? lol
to the agency overall it doesn't matter which you write to.

not to mention did you write first to  a few whose profiles seemed genuine and sincere?
read enough profiles you should start to get a feel for it.


While DM has its landmines, and you need to do your own due diligence,,
you need to do the same on EM..
it isnt some perfect utopia of legit profiles .
its simply a better business model and better percentage.. you need the same skills.

[veritas]

Thanks, AJ, for yet ANOTHER very informative reply ... You've certainly been most helpful to me on here ...

But, honestly, I CAN'T tell if there are any "real" letters on D-M, so I just assume there AREN'T ...

Anyway, it doesn't matter, whether on D-M or EM, because Sculpto has assured me
that I really don't have any business at all being in the "FSUW game", so that's that ...

Thanks again, though ...

Kevin

[3T_Ventus]

Kevin,

the only one who can give up on your search for a pretty woman is you! Do you let other people tell you what is good for you? Are you feeling down because you might not have a chance in the real FSU game? Is that picture a recent photo of yours? And you are 46 years of age? You look 35 IMO. You are looking great and i have been reading that you are intelligent too. So what is up? Quit the game?

Let me tell you my story. It might be a encouragement to you. I am black. Yes, that is right. Hearing all the stories about racism and prejudice I was calculating that I have a zero to nothing chance to ever get a woman in the FCU...Zero to nothing is still a chance in my mind. In fact Kevin, if my calculations are correct it would mean that on paper I could still get a few to talk with... That is all I need...I registered on with a few agencies and sites: spread my chances, eggs in more baskets thingy. And guess what? i have managed to take a few women out of these agencies and more are still willing.

Kevin, there are a few reasons why I have started not to take no for an answer anymore. I have heard from women that I look great. This was before embarking on this challenging road. I have worked hard for that and the rewards are there to be seen. The women who are now interested are good looking and well educated, but unfortunately some are high maintenance. So I move on, this is my life. I could take advantage and sleep with them but I still have some self respect left and I am on a mission: find a suitable marriage partner. I do not care how pretty they are, If she hasn't got the attitude she will be dropped. Making sure I really attract physically has been one step.
The other has been to be attractive on the inside. Asking my self who I really am, learning what love really means from successful couples and how to put wise lessons into practice has been a small part of the process. Figuring out which type of woman you want and which one you do not want has been part of the process too. The following process was to figure out women. It isn't so difficult when you get this point: women want what we want.

All this and more are leading to great results. Kevin, there is a new kind of predictor in town: he is black, beautiful and proving to be successful. Welcome to the revolution baby!

Kevin, the process to success starts in the mind. It starts by saying: I refuse to give up. I am a good looker and what others can do I can do also, in fact I will prove to be better and more successful. Attract more women towards you by being more attractive from the inside and out. Now what they want by knowing yourself and knowing what you want. FSU women allow you to hunt them, so go get them boy!



PS: I have read the books from EM and still have them. They have been a tremendous help and have uped my game to a real high level. I can mail them to you if you are interested. I have them in PDF-format. Drop me a PM.

 

[veritas]

Wow, 3T, I think you're my biggest fan! 

I really appreciate your personal story, and I REALLY appreciate your kind words ...
(BTW, that photo is from April 2006 -- 42 years old then) ...

But take a look at THIS from my intro thread:

You are burdened and damaged with a NUMBER of disorders of psychological (and possibly psychiatric) nature that render you UNABLE and UNFIT to enter and maintain a long relationship let alone marriage.

I believe you have NO BUSINESS in dating FSUW (and frankly dating overall), and you should take off your EM profile. AT BEST you will waste some sincere woman (or women's) time, AT WORST you will SCREW UP the life of some unsuspecting nice FSUW (which this whole MOB process allows rather easily). You putting up your profile on EM looking for a partner is simply WRONG and UNFAIR to these women.

Kevin

[3T_Ventus]

Kevin,

Is it true? Even if it is true does it mean that you will never be able to hold a marriage? Of course not Kevin!!! Prepare yourself, learn from the experienced and ones who are successful in marriage and you will be successful too. Look I am not married yet, but am learning from the ones who are married. Once they were single too and had to learn from other as well. Success is in reach if you apply your self more to the game of dating FSU.

Am I a fan? Lets just say that we are united against scamming from major agencies. If a brother falls or has a problem we are here to help each other out, encourage each other and inform one another. I am here to give all three and am expecting in return. Kevin, you have my support already. We have the same goals and it would be nice if the both of us reach them.

 
 

[veritas]

Kevin,

Is it true? Even if it is true does it mean that you will never be able to hold a marriage? Of course not Kevin!!! Prepare yourself, learn from the experienced and ones who are successful in marriage and you will be successful too. Look I am not married yet, but am learning from the ones who are married. Once they were single too and had to learn from other as well. Success is in reach if you apply your self more to the game of dating FSU.

Am I a fan? Lets just say that we are united against scamming from major agencies. If a brother falls or has a problem we are here to help each other out, encourage each other and inform one another. I am here to give all three and am expecting in return. Kevin, you have my support already. We have the same goals and it would be nice if the both of us reach them.

Thanks again, 3T ... I greatly appreciate your support ...

But I'm afraid that it IS true what "they" say about me ...

And that I have NO BUSINESS dating at this time -- either here OR there ... I've accepted their wisdom on this ...

Kevin

[3T_Ventus]

Kevin,

Keep the hope up high and work hard to recovery of one self. Many have been successful before you and still many will. This is an imperfection which we unfortunately have to deal with. But it isn't impossible. You are getting help now so you are on the good path already.

I will be waiting to hear of your success. Tell me if you need anything.

[veritas]

Kevin,

Keep the hope up high and work hard to recovery of one self. Many have been successful before you and still many will. This is an imperfection which we unfortunately have to deal with. But it isn't impossible. You are getting help now so you are on the good path already.

I will be waiting to hear of your success. Tell me if you need anything.

Thanks, 3T ... I'll be sure to let you know ...

Kevin