OlgaH, Avis, etc Why do we hate Ed

[GQBlues]

 

So......did the girl marry the guy on the video???

 

[pitbull]

So......did the girl marry the guy on the video???

 

 

[OlgaH]

and what is the difference in our opinion and on what exactly? This is actually what I was trying to find out in the first place  

While you see your client as "horoshey semyi, bogatiy, uspeshniy, veseliy i nahodchiviy" - a good family man, rich, successful, merry and ready-witted, I see him from your video as a very bad mannered, who even is not able to understand how uncomfortable a girl feels on the first date with him when he simply intervened her space. As you posted his video where he was sitting half naked talking and chewing at the same time you also probably can not see how bad it looks.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPiyAUQ6L4Q&feature=related[/youtube]

[OlgaH]

So......did the girl marry the guy on the video???

 

Exactly what girl? There were several girls in all 5 or 6 parts  

[vwrw]

Here is an attempt to translate the dialog.
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(12:41:05) OlgaH: Hi Eduard
(12:41:14) possum: Hi Ed
(12:41:21) OlgaH: we discuss your clients :-)
(12:41:35) OlgaH: I would run away at once (if she was in place of the girl, I guess, but Olga will correct me if I am wrong) :-)
(12:41:38) Eduard: Hi
(12:41:39) possum: to be more exact, we discuss the girls. All are beautiful. 
(12:41:47) Eduard: yes, I can see
(12:41:55) OlgaH: possum devushki da (I do not know what Olga tried to say)
(12:42:20) OlgaH: it is written on the faces of the girl that they did not expect what they got  :-)
(12:42:29) Eduard: I do not understand what problem you have with the man. (12:42:40) Avis: with what man do we have problem?
(12:43:02) Eduard: with the man, in my video on youtube
(12:43:08) OlgaH: Eduard, I think you will not understand (what the problem is):-)
(12:43:25) Eduard: My wife also do not understand(what is the problem with the man that you see)
(12:43:48) Eduard: the girls whom he met during the trip also cannot understand (what is the problem with the man that you see)
(12:44:16) Avis: what they could not understand? I do not understand )))

[Eduard]

GQ,

Eduard keeps ignoring the question  

sorry, Pitbull, with posts coming at the rate of the speed of sound I didn't get a chance to reply to yours in a timely manner.
He had a good connection with Natasha, the girl he actually kissed on that trip. They went on a few trips together in the course of several months after our trip. and he was ready to submit K-1 paperwork. He was still waiting for some papers from her and she was dragging her feet sending them. It was a bit strange but didn't really set off any red flags at that point since their relationship seemed to be progressing very well. Then I excidently came across her brand new profile on Mamba which was a huge red flag! To make a long story short, we discovered that she was communicating with other men, both Western and local and telling them that she was single and available... so much for honest and faithful RW... as I always say - "there are all kinds over there, just like here". When we confronted her with this new info, she responded with something like: "well you've got to understand, I have to wait for 6 months for the visa, I just wanted to go out, nothing serious, etc. etc." So that was the end of that.
He took a break from the persuit of RW at that point because he was really hurt by what happened. He was really into that girl. He dated an AW for about a year but as normally happens here she wasn't into the whole "marriage and family" thing. Then my wife, kids and I were at our friend's party here where I live, and there was a very nice girl there, all by herself. My friends, knowing what I do asked me if I knew a good single guy for her since she just broke up with her husband. So I introduced her to him (by the way I didn't even make a penny out of it and just did it to help 2 people meet each other) They didn't need any of my help since she was a legal resident in the US and spoke good english. So they started dating and that went on for about a year. I actually posted their photo on RUA taken when they were visiting my wife and I in our house. She had a child with her ex, and her ex decided to croll back and beg her to take him back, and since they had a child together she decided to break up with John and go back with her ex. That's what I call "unlucky in love". He is now single and looking and actually working with me again.

[dogspot]

Thanks VWRW

[OlgaH]

(12:41:35) OlgaH: I would run away at once (if she was in place of the girl, I guess, but Olga will correct me if I am wrong) :-)

(12:41:55) OlgaH: possum devushki da (I do not know what Olga tried to say)
hat they could not understand? I do not understand )))

Yes, vwrw, I would run away if I found myself in such situation  

The second it was my answer to possum devushki da (yes, the girls are pretty)

[vwrw]

 (12:44:20) OlgaH: Eduard your video is anti-advertisement.
(12:44:49) OlgaH: everything that the girls think is written on their faces.
(12:44:53) Eduard: he is a good man, form a good family, well-off, successful, comical, adroit.
(12:45:49) Avis: I do not understand what reaction you expect, when you take video, speak about her using language that she does not understand. They all are at unease under the circumstances. How emergence of love is possible under the circumstances? I would be shocked if I were in their place.   
(12:45:51) OlgaH: Eduard, if you think so in your understanding, then it is not surprising that you have such clients. 
(12:46:00) Avis: especially if she sees him for the first time in her life.
(12:46:11) Eduard: Girls, do not tell me (fairy tales, I guess)... I know with what ugly men you date in Russia. You not only date them, but you also marry them and give birth to their children.

[Eduard]

Yes, vwrw, I would run away if I found myself in such situation  

The second it was my answer to possum devushki da (yes, the girls are pretty)

what I don't understand is why are you so upset? you made it perfectly clear that you don't find him attractive or desirable. Why are you mad that some women do? As I pointed out to you in the chatroom, Ive seen nice looking, normal RW, in Russia with guys who looked like drunk street bums. And you don't seem to be as upset about those guys as you are with my guy on the video. Where is the logic here?
That video wasn't staged or rehearsed. It was a 100% reality. It was over +30 celsius in Moscow that summer and no air conditioner in the apartment, so yes we both took our shirts off to keep cool, and yes he enjoyed a couple of cold beers after running all day in the heat. What is the big deal there??? he wears a 3 piece suite to work every day, and like many Americans he just wanted to be casual/comfortable while on vacation. Deal with it.

[LEGAL]

Ed lets honestly think for a minute what would upset these women. This is about profit and exploitation nothing more Really watch and listen to the videos

[vwrw]

(12:46:16) OlgaH: Avis, what love…read their body language
(12:46:28) Avis: what ugly people do we date in Russia ? 8o
(12:47:15) possum: with ugly men as I am
(12:47:15) Eduard: with local ugly men, alcoholics.  I only returned back from there, I was there for a month. I saw all this more than enough there.   
(12:47:15) OlgaH: Eduard, it depends on the girls and whom they choose to date (12:47:27) OlgaH: the girls choose according to what they themselves are (I am not sure I translated the meaning correctly)
(12:47:31) Avis: you say they date alcoholics? Who are you and how do you dare to characterize Russian men like that?

[OlgaH]

what I don't understand is why are you so upset?

Eduard, why you decided that I'm upset  

Why are you mad that some women do? As I pointed out to you in the chatroom, Ive seen nice looking, normal RW, in Russia with guys who looked like drunk street bums. And you don't seem to be as upset about those guys as you are with my guy on the video. Where is the logic here?

Why I should be mad and upset. I'm not mad and upset at all   And I wrote back to you

(12:47:15) Eduard: s mestnimi urodami, alkashami. Ya tolko vernulsya ot tuda, mesyac bil, nasmotrelsya
                           (with local freaks, alcoholics. I I just returned from there, I spend a month and saw it  all.
 
(12:47:15) OlgaH: Eduard eto zavisit tol'ko ot samih devochek s kem oni vstrechayutsya i kogo vyberayut.
                         (Eduard, it is depends only on the girls with whom they meet and who they choose)
(12:47:27) OlgaH: Kakie devochki takie i urody u nih
                         (Girls choose freaks according to their own nature)

[Eduard]

Ed lets honestly think for a minute what would upset these women. This is about profit and exploitation nothing more Really watch and listen to the videos

and who is being exploited? I help people who are interested in finding their soulmate connect and understand each other well, without any language barrier. Every one wins. I wish you were right about the "profit" factor though! Regretfully, it doesn't pay much to run an honest service in the MOB business!  

Thes women (OlgaH, Avis) are upset because:
1. They don't know me
2. They read into things (read between the lines as Olga put it) instead of taking what I say at face value
3. They don't understand what it is that I do for people exactly. They assume that they do, but it is not the reality. I assure you that if they met me and spent a couple of hours with me in person they would change their mind.

[OlgaH]

(12:47:15) OlgaH: Eduard, it depends on the girls and whom they choose to date
(12:47:27) OlgaH: the girls choose according to what they themselves are (I am not sure I translated the meaning correctly)

vwrw, that's correct.

[vwrw]

 (12:47:55) Eduard: you are correct. Yet, you know in the place where there is no fish, a cancer might seem as being a fish.
(12:48:00) OlgaH: BTW, all the girls will become mothers one day, and they will rear their boys
(12:48:15) OlgaH: Avis, he is Russian :-)
(12:48:59) OlgaH: while his wife sits home with their children, he is choosing girls for his clients.
(12:49:03) Avis: absurd
(12:49:49) OlgaH: then he writes on the forum that his hands are tied and he is not to touch the girs.:-)
(12:50:13) Avis: 
(12:50:14) OlgaH: he is like a child in a candy store. He wants (all that) but he is not to touch that. :-)
(12:50:35) Eduard: so what?
(12:51:04) OlgaH: that you are a Russian man and you write from your perspective :-)
(12:51:52) Avis: I am so resentful now I cannot find what to say (I am lost for words). 
(12:51:59) OlgaH: and his perspective does not differ from the perspective of other Russian men whom he condemns  :-)
(12:52:06) Eduard: I do not cheat on my wife. There in Russia, your men have 2-3 girlfriends more as an addition to you.  Why are you not resentful about that?

[Eduard]

(12:46:16) OlgaH: Avis, what love…read their body language
(12:46:28) Avis: what ugly people do we date in Russia ? 8o
(12:47:15) possum: with ugly men as I am
(12:47:15) Eduard: with local ugly men, alcoholics.  I only returned back from there, I was there for a month. I saw all this more than enough there.   
(12:47:15) OlgaH: Eduard, it depends on the girls and whom they choose to date (12:47:27) OlgaH: the girls choose according to what they themselves are (I am not sure I translated the meaning correctly)
(12:47:31) Avis: you say they date alcoholics? Who are you and how do you dare to characterize Russian men like that?

VWRW, although your translation isn't quite accurate I appreciate your efforts!   By the way I have a lot of respect for Ray and he always speaks highly of you. I'm glad that you two found each other. Lots of happiness to you both!

[OlgaH]

Thes women (OlgaH, Avis) are upset because:
1. They don't know me
2. They read into things (read between the lines as Olga put it) instead of taking what I say at face value
3. They don't understand what it is that I do for people exactly. They assume that they do, but it is not the reality. I assure you that if they met me and spent a couple of hours with me in person they would change their mind.

I cannot speak for Avis, but as I already said I'm not upset at all more over with you. I don't have any reason do not believe you, and I think you are most likely a nice Russia guy as many Russian guys and of course not a cheater   and I'm sorry that I was teasing you to hard  

But as I also said, you remember what I wrote, I guess,  "Action begins with a thought"  

Yes, Eduard, we have different opinions, so what  

[OlgaH]

VWRW, although your translation isn't quite accurate I appreciate your efforts!  

Eduard, see we again have difference in opinion,  I think VWRW's translation is pretty accurate and without distortion.

[Eduard]

I cannot speak for Avis, but as I already said I'm not upset at all more over with you. I don't have any reason do not believe you, and I think you are most likely a nice Russia guy as many Russian guys and of course not a cheater   and I'm sorry that I was teasing you to hard  

But as I also said, you remember it I guess "Action begins with a thought"  

Yes, Eduard, we have different opinions, so what  

actually, Olga, if you stop "reading between the lines" and take what I say at face value you might find out that our oppinions may not differ that much...  

[OlgaH]

Strange name for a topic "OlgaH, Avis, etc Why do we hate Ed from getrussianwife.com.".   

Why did you decide that we hate you? Of course you have your own perception, our Russian kid in a candy store   

[GQBlues]

I’ll refrain from anything personal about either of these two, BUT, if I had to put in my two cents simply based on manners and demeanor by watching body language (see photos), it’s very easy to see the girl couldn’t get far enough away from him. Uncomfortable is an understatement.

He OTOH, looked like he immediately stored a banana in his pocket.

The girl appeared to me as though she was expecting someone like Pierce Brosnan except she got Sean Connery instead. Not that there’s anything wrong with Sean, mind you…

I will accept the story that these two ‘dated’ for months on face value, but without knowing factual testimony from either one of them, that still leaves much for debate as to what extent they actually dated.

Which I think brings me to this….

I am certain Eduard does his work to his fullest potential to make sure two people can come together and find bliss. But the fact the girl (allegedly) eventually went wayside, brings me to ask; is there any vetting that happens with the clients and/or the women? Are the women first presented with information about the man (Pictures are nice to start with), etc…? Are the women afforded with a choice to meet anyone, or are they just told a man wishes to meet with them ‘sight unseen’?

One of the biggest challenges a typical man faces when they go through a lot of these union is what happens when their lady finally gets here. She then becomes fully aware of her new surrounding in terms of choices. She may not have had the luxury before, but she'll more than certainly soon will. That's the sad realities I've seen here in LA with many of these couples; these women immediately notices the Pierce Brosnans, Colin Ferrels, etc...running around shirtless looking for pretty blue-eyed, accented-speaking women.....

edited to add: Eduard, if you what you said about these two is true, do you not feel this video doesn't represent whatever it is you're trying to advertise? Considering your story that this woman eventually went wayward, what exactly are you trying to convey by leaving this video on youtube...that men will eventually get taken for a ride if they subscribed to your services, or, bait them into thinking they can 'marry' that type of a woman like shown on this video (which you now say they did not)? Do you not find this a little bit irresponsible by leaving that in?

[Eduard]

Eduard, see we again have difference in opinion,  I think VWRW's translation is pretty accurate and without distortion.

see Olga, I don't disagree with you at all! "pretty accurate" is the perfect discription. Now if you said "a 100% accurate" I'd disagree  

[OlgaH]

actually, Olga, if you stop "reading between the lines" and take what I say at face value you might find out that our oppinions may not differ that much...  

No, Ed, we still have different opinion,  because I would take that anti-advertisement video with a half naked chubby chewing guy off youtube and where girls look like being very confused with the situation and not happy at all, but it depends on you what type of client you would like to attract. 

[vwrw]

(12:52:09) Avis: to be more exact, I can find words but they all are not suitable for publishing in public.
(12:52:38) Avis: listen… how came you are so informed? Do you personally know our boyfriends or do you judge by your personal experience?
(12:52:38) Eduard: I do not judge anybody. I just state the fact. 
(12:52:39) OlgaH: you can say 33 times more that you do not cheat on your wife:-)

It is done.
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Ed, thank you very much for kind wishes for me and Ray. I was in hurry translating the text, so I probably have done some mistakes; please, feel free to correct them. It will not offend me in any way.