21 y.o. RW with English, Skype and guitar seeks man 26-40

[Eduard]

Just checking in gang ...

21 with skills and looks looking for an older man - as in PREFERS.  It can happen, but it is not the norm and must happen naturally.  Even then, Eduard is correct ( I think he is generally correct about many things - with the possible exception of language ... but hey, there's a 1000 ways to skin a cat.)

I am convinced that SCAMS comprise MOST the action in online correspondence.  SCAMS in the sense that there is misinformation and  hidden agendas - no matter how slight.  These things can stick in your head for good, of ill.   

Carry on ...

hey bud haven't seen you in a while! R u in Fl now?

[Admin]

OK - let's see if we can get things back on track. Series of posts, as responses, to follow.

- Dan

[Admin]

hey bud haven't seen you in a while! R u in Fl now?

Ed - your posts to rivardco is  to the OP. Please be considerate of the OP's topic/theme, and take this sort of personal contact to PM or separate topic in the appropriate forum.

- Dan

[Admin]

Just checking in gang ...

21 with skills and looks looking for an older man - as in PREFERS.  It can happen, but it is not the norm and must happen naturally.  Even then, Eduard is correct ( I think he is generally correct about many things - with the possible exception of language ... but hey, there's a 1000 ways to skin a cat.)

I am convinced that SCAMS comprise MOST the action in online correspondence.  SCAMS in the sense that there is misinformation and  hidden agendas - no matter how slight.  These things can stick in your head for good, of ill.   

Carry on ...

rivardco - your post seems to focus more on the anatomy/analysis of a scam generically. While a VERY appropriate topic, in this context, it seems to sully the intent of the OP's topic and the lady he references. My interpretation is you were not addressing any concerns that the lady referenced in the OP is scamming, hence, references to scams in THIS topic are not appropriate.

- Dan

PS - the fact that scams and scamming comes up often and in topics where it is really not appropriate is indicative of two factors; (1) the prevalence of scamming behavior (sadly) and (2) the paranoia that exists by folks seeking to avoid being scammed. While prudence is encouraged, anyone interested in pursuing a cross-cultural relationship with a person from another country is going to be exposed to the possibility of scamming and paranoia will certainly prevent your success and erode what otherwise might be a lot of fun. Something to consider.

[Admin]

21 y.o. LOOKING for a foreign husband up to 40 y.o.  hmmmm... not a very good thing in my experience. Girls that age usually would do something like that if they were just hurt by a boyfriend or have some difficult situation/circumstances in their life. They are looking for a quick fix, to feel better NOW. In most cases I doubt it that there is a good potential for LTR in this scenario. Surely this girl might be an exception, but my life experience tells me chances are this may lead to trouble... A 21 yo girl typically doesn't have the maturity or mindset for international marriage.
Just my opinion.

Eduard,

I suspect you did not intend this, but you should consider the effects of your response to the OP and to the lady he referenced. In effect you are dousing this topic with cold water and discouraging others from responding - yet, you know nothing of the individuals involved.

My counsel would be quite different - but I tend to take things at face value until I have reason not to.

My point is - let's give people the freedom and room to make their own life choices without interjecting our prejudices and fears. It is one thing to be cautioning guys in the Scams forum as to what to look for. It is far different to take someone's post, who is well-intentioned and trying to be be helpful, and then subvert that well-intended effort.

- Dan

[Admin]

Hey, sorry guys and gals if you think I didn't take enough time and care in posting this.

But I was just trying to do a favor for the lady in question AND for all the interested guys.
And despite the 'maybe not right form and place comments,' etc., I'll bet this posting is seen by many of the appropriate guys.

There are many postings and discussions here about trying to find gals who are not 'tainted' by being with agencies, etc., so I would think there would be  some "Thank You's" rather than the contrary.

Don't we proclaim that we are trying to help  one another?

And why any questions about what city, etc.?  There is an email address given.  Can't take the time for a simple sent email which would take no more time than posting such a question here?

No apologies needed - and it is clear, to me anyway, that you were trying to offer some help to someone else - just as you wrote.

The fact the email was posted may become a problem, and in the interest of protecting them, that was removed - but so long as you are willing to provide it to anyone who might PM you asking for it, hopefully it will not become too much of an impediment.

BTW - on the topic of providing the email, please be sure that you, or someone, is performing due diligence with reviewing any requests for the email contact. There are some REALLY terrific guys here at RWD interested in meeting an equally terrific lady, but there are enough that are not-so-terrific that performance of some heavy-duty screening is in order.

Moderator Daveman, please delete this thread.

Thanks, ML

ML - we can delete the topic if you wish.

OTOH, it is (IMO) salvageable and we may be able to get it back to your intended purpose - if you want to give it a chance.

Your call.

- Dan

[OlgaH]

21 y.o. LOOKING for a foreign husband up to 40 y.o.  hmmmm... not a very good thing in my experience. Girls that age usually would do something like that if they were just hurt by a boyfriend or have some difficult situation/circumstances in their life. They are looking for a quick fix, to feel better NOW. In most cases I doubt it that there is a good potential for LTR in this scenario. Surely this girl might be an exception, but my life experience tells me chances are this may lead to trouble... A 21 yo girl typically doesn't have the maturity or mindset for international marriage.
Just my opinion.

Eduard, "interesting" observation  Do you think 3 years difference between 21 y.o. woman and 24 y.o. woman is really so significant? or it is just about "international" and "non-international" marriage? You are also married to a woman who is 20 years younger than you, you gave your story on your website and concluded it with "The statistics are definitely in your favor therefore if you know what you are doing you CAN wind up with a gem you've been dreaming of!"   

Best regards,
Olga

[OlgaH]

ManLooking,

Good luck to your wife's cousin.

[IAmZon]

Dan - point well taken on topic drift.  You are correct; I did not consider the original posters contribution as I should have.  Instead, I was guilty of just BLA, BLA, BLA.  Don't know what into me!

In a more serious note, a forum - like RWD - would be an excellent way for two people to meet.  Much more naturally than online dating sites, generally speaking.  Who knows - lightning could strike at any time:)

I will chime on the ubiquitously interesting side not of age - People are much more than just the number of years they have lived on this planet.

[Admin]

Dan - point well taken on topic drift.  You are correct; I did not consider the original posters contribution as I should have.  Instead, I was guilty of just BLA, BLA, BLA.  Don't know what into me!

In a more serious note, a forum - like RWD - would be an excellent way for two people to meet.  Much more naturally than online dating sites, generally speaking.  Who knows - lightning could strike at any time:)

And, indeed, there HAVE been connections made at RWD.

We have considered options to create more opportunity for this, but really, the options and the possibilities are in-place right now - and that is what ML was seeking to leverage.

It is a novel approach and one that is 'out of the box' in contrast to the more conventional methods for online introductions.

- Dan

[Daveman]

Ah, the analysis continues.  Don't delete the thread ML, we'll clean it up a bit later.  Thanks for posting.

I'd definitely write her if she were 10 years older.. (or if I was still a young whipper snapper) Sense of humor, gitfiddle player... sigh.. it inspires my new mega-hit country song..

"The gal's too young for me, but too old for .....  :evil: "  (no animals were injured in the making of this post.. any similarity to actual persons living or dead is completely coincidently unintentionally on purpose, and intended in the spirit of fun).

[ML]

ManLooking,

Good luck to your wife's cousin.

No, I am not married.  The woman writing the message sent it directly to my email (and to others) as a member of another board.

That board is somewhat dead; and I knew there was much more activity on this board and thus, much better chance of getting some valid interest from guys.

[OlgaH]

No, I am not married. 

Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, my bad.  Anyway, good luck to that woman's cousin.

[Eduard]

Eduard, "interesting" observation  Do you think 3 years difference between 21 y.o. woman and 24 y.o. woman is really so significant? or it is just about "international" and "non-international" marriage? You are also married to a woman who is 20 years younger than you, you gave your story on your website and concluded it with "The statistics are definitely in your favor therefore if you know what you are doing you CAN wind up with a gem you've been dreaming of!"   

Best regards,
Olga

Hi Olechka
although I agree with you that 24 is still pretty young, I think that there is a big difference between 21 and 24. Also my wife, at 24 was already working as a dentist, renting her own apartment and generally mature for her age. As I mentioned in my post - there is a possibility that a 21 yo girl might be serious about marriage but IMHO it would be more of an exception rather than the rule. And Olechka, please don't hate me for marrying a much younger woman... we just couldn't help ourselves! 

[OlgaH]

Hi Olechka
although I agree with you that 24 is still pretty young, I think that there is a big difference between 21 and 24. Also my wife, at 24 was already working as a dentist, renting her own apartment and generally mature for her age. As I mentioned in my post - there is a possibility that a 21 yo girl might be serious about marriage but IMHO it would be more of an exception rather than the rule. And Olechka, please don't hate me for marrying a much younger woman... we just couldn't help ourselves! 

Eduard, golubchik,

why do you think I hate you?  I really don't care about an age difference, and I think it is just between two who are involved. More over I wish you both a long happy married life. 

I just was trying to understand your logic. I think the difference between 21 and 24 would depend only on the people, their personalities and so on. Regarding your comment on "Girls that age usually would do something like that if they were just hurt by a boyfriend or have some difficult situation/circumstances in their life" the 24 y.o. girl, for example, can have 3 years more of bad experience with her boyfriend/s and  some difficult situations/circumstances in her life.

[JR]

Ok AJ, lets remove the e-mail address so that interested people can get it from the PM of ManLooking. That solves my main issue with the thread, as otherwise I would support such efforts.

LOL, is it YOURS to have an issue with? Really, is it your email addy that will (might) get slammed? You're married so you shouldn't be looking or caring about this thread yet you post as if you own it and will personally be effected by it.

ML, I think what you did was kewl, you're cutting through the BS and trying to bring to serious persons together, kudos to you.

[Gator]

No, I am not married.  The woman writing the message sent it directly to my email (and to others) as a member of another board.

That board is somewhat dead; and I knew there was much more activity on this board and thus, much better chance of getting some valid interest from guys.

ManLooking,

Can you verify that this person is real and sincere. 

You are dating women in their 40s so I assume you are in your 50s or more,  Yet, this woman wrote you. 

Makes me wonder.  Perhaps you have communicated with this woman via the forum?   

[Shadow]

LOL, is it YOURS to have an issue with? Really, is it your email addy that will (might) get slammed? You're married so you shouldn't be looking or caring about this thread yet you post as if you own it and will personally be effected by it.

Caring about other people might be an alien concept to you, to me it is not.