American needs Single Status Affidavit

[superbb]

I just got back from Kiev, and am preparing paperwork for marriage.  I see that I need a Single Status Affidavit, and the only instructions I can find for getting this is to get it at the embassy in Kiev.  Anyone know how I can get this document while I'm here in the states?

[tfcrew]

If either of you have been married before, provide divorce papers.
Annulments? I don't know about that.

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[Ravens9273]

If you are getting married in Ukraine you will need to get the documents in Ukraine.

The US Embassy only does the paperwork on Fridays before 12am. Once you get the papers from the US embassy you have to go across town and get an apostile seal from Ukraine on it. I cannot remember at this time the place you have to go but I went through it myself.

As stated above if you are divorced you will need to bring divorce papers with you.

But remember. Ukraine will not accept any papers declaring you are single that were issued outside of Ukraine. They will not issue an apostile to those papers.

[superbb]

But remember. Ukraine will not accept any papers declaring you are single that were issued outside of Ukraine. They will not issue an apostile to those papers.

I don't think this is correct.  I've been doing more research.  In fact, I just read this on the site for the Consulate for Ukraine in Chicago (http://www.ukrchicago.com):

"a legalized Document proving the individual’s civil status. Such documents can be obtained from the appropriate authorities of the country of the individual’s origin or the Embassy of this country in Ukraine. "

I am going to my county records building on Monday and getting a "Statement of No Marriage".  Then I'll sign, notarize, and apostle it with my secretary of state.  I think that should do the trick.

[Ravens9273]

I don't think this is correct.  I've been doing more research.  In fact, I just read this on the site for the Consulate for Ukraine in Chicago (http://www.ukrchicago.com):

"a legalized Document proving the individual’s civil status. Such documents can be obtained from the appropriate authorities of the country of the individual’s origin or the Embassy of this country in Ukraine. "

I am going to my county records building on Monday and getting a "Statement of No Marriage".  Then I'll sign, notarize, and apostle it with my secretary of state.  I think that should do the trick.

Yes the Chicago consulate will take papers issued in USA since they are in the USA but in Ukraine they will not.
I did what you said and went to county records as well. When I took the papers to Ukraine I was more or less laughed at. Ukraine they would not accept any papers I brought from the USA. Hence we had to take a trip to Kiev. Papers need a Ukraine apostile to be good.
I am not telling you this out of no where. I am telling you from experience. I did adzactly what you just said you are going to do and I had to do it all over again in Ukraine.

[tfcrew]

I searched on all the sites...visajourney, planet-love, ruadventures.
I saw very little about single status affdvt.
This one guy [I read] got one written up and notarized and he said they didn't even ask for it.
I think this was in the Philippines.

Anyway I remember back in March [how time flys] you were heading to Votkinsk. I didn't see any trip report there.
And now today we find you centering on Ukraine.
What city there?

One thing I can agree with..you can't have too many documents.

Good luck...........Karl
 

[Ravens9273]

Superbb

I just went to the website you listed and you need to read the bottom. Last updated October 2001.

Times have changed since then. They have listed Mon-Fri to get Non-impediment Letter at US embassy.
Now they only do the letter on Fri before 12 noon.
You will need to go to the US embassy and get Non-impediment Letter. Then from there go to Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine to have in authenticated. You drop it off and they will have it ready after 4pm to pick up.
There is no way around this if you are going to marry in Ukraine.

If you have never been married before all you need to do is get the Non-impediment letter at the US embassy.
If you are divorced you will want to get an apostile on your divorce papers.
I was not divorced and they only required the Non-impediment letter from me to get married. I cannot say fully what apostile you will need for divorce papers so you will need to call Ukraine consulate.

[superbb]

Well, shit.. I am planning for a wedding on Jan. 15th   How early do I need to arrive to get all this crap sorted out?  My fiance said that going to the marriage center and signing the paperwork on the morning of the wedding is a big part of the ceremony.

[BC]

Bottom line is providing the papers that the authority that will certify the marriage will accept.

This will usually be the form provided by the US consulate in the country you wish to marry, that is subsequently legalized for use in that country.

[Ravens9273]

Knowing you have to visit the US consulate in Kiev just plan your trip around this.
Arrive in Ukraine on a thrusday. Spend night in Kiev and take care of business in the morning then move on to your final destination.
By Ukraine rules as well you are supose to be in the country for at least 30 days before you can marry. Many zags offices will go around this rule for a slight fee. Your fiance should already be talking to them about how much and how quick they can do wedding after you bring the documents. But zags will not set a date until you bring proper documents from the US embassy.
The key for you is the Non-impediment Letter. This is what you need and as long as you know you can only get on Friday morning plan your trip around this.

[superbb]

Thanks for the info Ravens.  I was hoping I could come only a week before the wedding but it looks like I might have to come a little earlier.  I'll have my lady call ZAGS tomorrow

[superbb]

Anyway I remember back in March [how time flys] you were heading to Votkinsk. I didn't see any trip report there.
And now today we find you centering on Ukraine.
What city there?

Yes, I did take a trip to Russia, and it went smooth enough - I just didn't really get the right feeling about the girl I went to see.  For one, I felt that she had gold digger potential.

After this I realized that Ukraine would be easier for me Visa / Travel wise.  Then I chose Kiev because it's a big city with lots of women to choose from, and an airport I can fly right to.  I've been speaking to my fiance for 4 months, and have been with her in person for the last 3 weeks.

[Ravens9273]

Well best of luck to you Superbb.

I was going through it adzactly 3 years ago right now. In fact it was October 19 2007 when I was at the US Embassy getting my letter of Non Impediment.

But I also was given the information you were and I went to the county clerk to get records etc... When we went to zags the first time they looked at my papers and just gave me that "What are you an idiot" look.

That lead to us learning about what papers I really needed and some phone calls to the US embassy. From there we waited for thursday night where we took an all night bus ride from Odessa to Kiev.
At the embassy we met several others also online getting their letter and ran into all once again getting the papers authenticated.

Once back in Odessa the zags office said the papers were good and they wanted a $75 fee to go around the 30 day rule. We were told they could marry us in 2 weeks.

The paper signing in the morning of the wedding day is actually when your marriage becomes legal. It is not the ceremony. In fact you do not even have to have a ceremony. That is just that. A ceremony.

With everything we went through and the thought of being married by signing papers it all lost its apeal to us.
At that point we changed our plans and married in Jamaica.

At this point for you it would be best for your lady to contact zags. This way she knows all information and how fast they could marry you based on time you are in the country and what their under the table fee will be.
From what I read your lady is in Kiev which will make things easy for you in going to the US consulate. It will just be a day ordeal. Visit consulate early morning then go to Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine to have in authenticated.
My wife and I just have a day in Kiev while we waited for 4 o'clock to come back and pick it up.

Also the last thing to check is back when I was going through this Ukraine was only doing weddings on Fridays. You may want to see if this is still how they do things just in case so you can keep Fridays in mind for US embassy and wedding in your plans.

[superbb]

Any suggestions for translating my documents into Ukranian?

[Wayne]

You can download the letter from the US Embassy in Kiev website.  It has blank spaces that you fill in in English and Ukrainian.  Most of the words are already translated into Ukrainian.  Make sure you spell the names correctly in Ukrainian.  There are differences between Russian and Ukrainian. 

There are two Ministry of Justice buildings in Kiev.  You don't go to the large building with entrance on the large street.  You go to a little building that is hidden and you have to go around several buildings to find the entrance. 

You can make an appointment with the US Embassy in Kiev M-F except US and Ukr holidays.  If you get a 9:00 apointment, you should be able to take care of this business in one day. 

Here is the ZAGS form you will need to fill out.  You will need a letter stating that you do not have any STD's and do not have any mental conditions.  Those will need to be translated into Ukrainian. Translations might need to be notarized. 

[Wayne]

Here is the LETTER OF NON-IMPEDIMENT TO MARRIAGE for a person who has been married before.  There is a slightly differecnt version for a person who has never been married.

You just type in the words in the blanks in English and translated into Ukrainain.

[superbb]

Here is the LETTER OF NON-IMPEDIMENT TO MARRIAGE for a person who has been married before.  There is a slightly differecnt version for a person who has never been married.

You just type in the words in the blanks in English and translated into Ukrainain.

I'm looking for this document on the site but I can't find it.  I want the version for someone who's never been married before

[superbb]

FYI, I went with ukraine-translation.com.  I'll let you guys know how that works out.

[Ravens9273]

If you have never been married before all you need to do is go to the US embassy and get Non-impediment Letter. Then from there go to Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine to have in authenticated.
There is nothing else you need to do.

The Non-impediment letter is in English and Russian. There are parts you fill in in English and have your fiance help you fill out the other parts in Russian. You do not need to bring any papers from the USA.
Do not make it any harder then it has to be. It is simple and just a day for you to take care of it. No matter what you will need to visit the embassy and get the letter. No need to stress or do anything now because you will only have to do again and spend more money. Just plan your trip knowing you will have to spend a Friday in Kiev doing this.

[Wayne]

Sorry, but you are out of date, Ravens.  The letter must be in English andUkrainian not Russian.  There is a new law that requires  doctor's reports and lab results showing that you do not have STD's nor mental illness.  These can be done in USA or Ukraine, but they need to translated into Ukrainian language.  Ukraine government uses Ukrainian language, even though everyone speaks Russian. 

[superbb]

Oh great, more crap to deal with.   So what kind of STDs am I supposed to be checked for?  There are all sorts of them, it will probably cost a fortune to test for all of them.  And what sort of mental illness test?

Sorry, but you are out of date, Ravens.  The letter must be in English andUkrainian not Russian.  There is a new law that requires  doctor's reports and lab results showing that you do not have STD's nor mental illness.  These can be done in USA or Ukraine, but they need to translated into Ukrainian language.  Ukraine government uses Ukrainian language, even though everyone speaks Russian.