RW and Truck Driver

[pitbull]

Annie,
Your definition of a "better partner" is someone who can give you a better life, but that is not what you say you are coming here for.   There are thousands of ladies in FSU, who frankly, probably have slim chance of finding a decent man.   Maybe this truck driver looks like Burt Reynolds.  Would they still not want to ride in the truck with him?

Darn, wish  I haven't googled the guy... guess will add to my collection of nightmares tonight: life of riding in a truck with Burt Reynolds 

[lovelyannie]

For everyone on this thread, I have known truck drivers who make $80K a year and break six-digits occasionally.

There are 45 million people in Ukraine, a country with an average income about 30-40% of our own. Then there's the real unemployment rate. Rest assured the shop clerks, aestheticians, cell phone salespeople, bookkeepers, librarians, teachers and the other, "normal"" people in life would see life as the wife of a trucker as a step up in terms of material possessions and certainly with regard to a solid man who loves and respects them would be far, FAR better off than they presently enjoy.

Keep looking for "real" women guys, not the show ponies (or show pony wannabees) who can't figure out how to entertain themselves without your credit card or in-depth discussions on what coat to wear.

Who cares about his salary? The point is that family oriented FSU women (which quality of theirs is highly regarded by AM)  would never appreciate life in the truck.
Would you, Mr. ECOCKS,  bless your sister to lead such a life? I bet, you would say: "Poor girl! What is this dumb dragging you into?"  
And  why do you answer FOR Russian women you know, saying riding in a truck would be a step up fpr them? Did you ask their opinion first? "Question to Russian ladies" - that's what they ask here, not "Questions to American gentlemen", so please, let us decide for ourselves, which is a step up for us ))))

[ECOCKS]

Why yes, Annie, unlike you (apparently) I would be ecstatic if my sister fell in love with a good man who treated her right and respected her. He might drive a truck, he might sell newspapers, he could be a butcher in the grocery store, God forbid, he might even be a politician. Her happiness and satisfaction would be the test, not some screwed up simpleton's measure of whether she had grabbed everything in sight and had a fur to wear to the local convenience store for a carton of milk.

[JohnDearGreen]

But then again, why go so far? Somewhere in the hills of West Virginia he would find a good number of American girls for whom his situation would be a step up as well. And spare himself all the pitfalls of intercultural relationship.

There are few single ladies in WV.  And they have little trouble finding a man.  I lived there one year.  I did date a very attractive lady from a coal mining town in eastern KY.

[Ludmila]

OP, did you know  ( from Wikipedia):


"In April, Presley began working for the Crown Electric company as a truck driver.[42] His friend Ronnie Smith, after playing a few local gigs with him, suggested he contact Eddie Bond, leader of Smith's professional band, which had an opening for a vocalist. Bond rejected him after a tryout, advising Presley to stick to truck driving "because you're never going to make it as a singer."

The only person who can say "no" to anything you are planning in your life is YOU. I gather you're a  man  free to do whatever you think is right, bearing FULL responsibility for the decisions taken ( you have been warned of the cons here on the list.They may or may not happen). NOTHING IS GUARANTEED.

My take on the subject : yes, you do  stand an EQUAL chance of meeting a Russian lady,or an  American lady or a lady from any other country for that matter, who will be happy to have the lifestyle in question. That chance is not high, still it is there.

The majority of ladies of any ethnicity WILL NOT BE HAPPY riding in a truck ( yes there are exceptions out there).

In RUSSIA  the profession of a  truck driver  is not prestigious and implies a low class coarse uneducated laborer. So, your Russian penpals may misunderstand your situation.

That you have been working all this time, not lying on a coach, makes one respect you and think you are a hardworking responsible man.
There are all kinds of ladies out there. If you define your requirements realistically, as far as the girl's looks, educational ( better simple modest homemaker without ambitions), geographical background ( preferably, a far away provincial town) , preferably with a couple of kids , you may find one.

But you are after a soulmate who will be humbly waiting for you back home , not a stylish trendy city career girl . Forget nice looks and sex appeal.

I suggest you keep on working and  SAVE AGRESSIVELY for a couple of years. FIND ANOTHER JOB by the time you are ready to start your search. You may  have  better results then.

[Ade]

Why yes, Annie, unlike you (apparently) I would be ecstatic if my sister fell in love with a good man who treated her right and respected her. He might drive a truck, he might sell newspapers, he could be a butcher in the grocery store, God forbid, he might even be a politician. Her happiness and satisfaction would be the test, not some screwed up simpleton's measure of whether she had grabbed everything in sight and had a fur to wear to the local convenience store for a carton of milk.

Ed, with all due respect, whatever your opinion is on this it is rather irrelevant in comparison to the Russian women's opinion. After all, it is they, the FSUW, that would have to make a choice based on how they perceive the situation, not you, an American male.

The OP probably could find someone if he looked hard enough but TBH, I can't see most RW giving up a life they know, their friends and family, their country and culture for a life in a truck or a lonely life in an empty house in a country they don't know. It's all well and good talking about "a good man" and love but if he's never there or she has to spend most of her time in a truck to see him, I just don't see it as being a situation that's an attractive proposition for most even if they had more "material possessions" to keep them company; surely most women could find a life at least as fulfilling back at home...

I would suggest that if he really wants a real family life he should focus on getting a job that allows him to be home after 17:00 and at the weekends.

[Gylden]

Let's face it, while certainly the job a man does isn't necessarily the bottom line, first impressions play a role in things and truck driving just isn't the most desirable job when it comes to family life.

So while it isn't a "game stopper" it certainly will add a challenge to meeting someone with strong family values.

[Shadow]

wcnwzrd, if you want something that sits at home and waits for you to come back, or that you can take with you wherever you go then get a pet.
Its not all about you.

[ECOCKS]

Ed, with all due respect, whatever your opinion is on this it is rather irrelevant in comparison to the Russian women's opinion. After all, it is they, the FSUW, that would have to make a choice based on how they perceive the situation, not you, an American male.

The OP probably could find someone if he looked hard enough but TBH, I can't see most RW giving up a life they know, their friends and family, their country and culture for a life in a truck or a lonely life in an empty house in a country they don't know. It's all well and good talking about "a good man" and love but if he's never there or she has to spend most of her time in a truck to see him, I just don't see it as being a situation that's an attractive proposition for most even if they had more "material possessions" to keep them company; surely most women could find a life at least as fulfilling back at home...

I would suggest that if he really wants a real family life he should focus on getting a job that allows him to be home after 17:00 and at the weekends.

Well, SJ, with all due respect, BFD.

Despite the histrionics of claiming "you've called us all sluts" (which I find incredibly amusing and telling as to personality and temperament) no one says this guy will have an easy time of it. The problems are taking exception to a socio-economic situated comment as to whether this lifestyle constitutes a "Step Up" or "Step Down". While those raised with a so-called belief in the common man can sneer at a job category, I answered from my background and sentiments. Many of these gals could marry garbagemen, construction machine operators, bank tellers and McDonald's Shift Managers and achieve a "Step Up" in material measures but any and all would benefit from finding a man who fell in love with them and treated them with respect while providing a home.

Certainly the gals are entitled to their opinion, right, wrong, ill-informed or whatever. Just as I am entitled to mine, you to yours and as the OP is entitled to take all the advice given and form his own opinion.

Obviously, some of you choose to cling to this myth that you have to be a white-collar, university-educated individual to successfully woo and marry an FSUW. Several of us know better and choose to comment accordingly. We have a few guys on here who work in "dirty jobs", lack a college degree and don't wear a suit to work everyday in their BMW. Some are successful in this endeavor, some aren't. Have your own opinion but STFU on attacking others over their opinions which were a simple, honest response to an OP.

The real truth here is the lack of knowledge exhibited by many as to income, lifestyles, motivation and happiness.

Oh, BTW, it looks like about 10-12 guys are in this thread so rather than snapping around about the sanctity of the Questions for RW thread, how about breaking the guy's responses into a "Can a Blue-Collar worker find his Princess in the FSU?" thread?

[GQBlues]

Wizard-

Listen to the ladies.

My younger brother just got his truck license and is currently 'under the program'. He just finished 3 cross-country trips with an instructor. Soon he'll be going off on trips on his own. He's doing this not because he loves driving trucks, but like you, he's been out of work because of the present situation. He's a finish carpenter and finding work for these guys is next to impossible. So truck driving for the moment is what will feed his kids...he won't take anything from me, he said at least not until he exhausted all of his options...so on the road he goes..

Going back to you...while I'm not a FSUW you want an opinion from, I hope you wouldn't mind if I opine as a male. I know you realize that if one look hard enough one can find just about anything their imagination designs. You already know the difficulties involved in looking for a woman that would 'fit' your present situation from your own society, culture, and language. What on earth makes you believe that somehow women outside of it will somehow be a little easier to walk into your world.

You're still pretty young. Impatience is your worst enemy. Should you not be so selfish as to try and include someone in it until you find permanency and stability? It's tough enough to have a girlfriend in your present situation, let alone a wife - and worst, one from a different culture to boot.

Invest 2-3 years of your life right now. Save a few more $$$, get to some real nice leveled and stabled plain in your life, then find someone to enjoy it with. You will only be 30-31 by then..

[Aloe]

It's not the temporary truck driving part that is a turn off, it's the ex with 2 kids. IMO.
Annie, just because someone's preferences do not reflect yours 100%, it does not mean they are alcoholics or unfaithful.

[Aloe]

Noone would agree to "put her life on track" - (doesn't it sound funny in this context?) And those ones who might agree, have a lot of unattractive qualities for you, guys - they are adventuresses, unloyal ones, or, may be, enjoy alchohol too much.

Since when is a love for adventure an unattractive quality? Personally, i find people who are completely uninterested in new things to be rather dull.

[SMS60]

Well as you can see OP you get many different opinions and perspectives. What you can take from this is the different attitudes of the women posters. This tells you what type of women to look for and the ones to stay away from.

You chose a women who can see the big picture and not one who has tunnel vision.

Stay away from the woman who has the attitude.....Im a woman and I deserve what I want because I have a honey pot between my legs". They dont want to contribute. They want someone else to do it all for them. They have tunnel vision. They dont deserve a guy who makes 60,000 a year and the ambition to do what it takes to live comfortably. They dont deserve your 3 bedroom house with 2 baths. They are better off in their 2 room flat.

A women with a sense of the big picture can see all the good in the desire and ambition you have. She knows it will pay off in the future. She understands life. Find this woman and she will be at your side no matter what your title is.

[Aloe]

It seems to me the author has an elevated risk of attracting a green card woman. While such a woman may not act on her desire to marry someone for a GC, because she realizes she would have to spend several years with a person she is indifferent about at best, and despises at worst. This obstacle is removed by the fact that the author isn't going to be home most of the time. Honestly, i've never met the proverbial GC girl, but people say they are out there I don't look for russian friends though, so..

[Ade]

Well, SJ, with all due respect, BFD.

Despite the histrionics of claiming "you've called us all sluts" (which I find incredibly amusing and telling as to personality and temperament) no one says this guy will have an easy time of it. The problems are taking exception to a socio-economic situated comment as to whether this lifestyle constitutes a "Step Up" or "Step Down". While those raised with a so-called belief in the common man can sneer at a job category, I answered from my background and sentiments. Many of these gals could marry garbagemen, construction machine operators, bank tellers and McDonald's Shift Managers and achieve a "Step Up" in material measures but any and all would benefit from finding a man who fell in love with them and treated them with respect while providing a home.

Certainly the gals are entitled to their opinion, right, wrong, ill-informed or whatever. Just as I am entitled to mine, you to yours and as the OP is entitled to take all the advice given and form his own opinion.

Obviously, some of you choose to cling to this myth that you have to be a white-collar, university-educated individual to successfully woo and marry an FSUW. Several of us know better and choose to comment accordingly. We have a few guys on here who work in "dirty jobs", lack a college degree and don't wear a suit to work everyday in their BMW. Some are successful in this endeavor, some aren't. Have your own opinion but STFU on attacking others over their opinions which were a simple, honest response to an OP.

The real truth here is the lack of knowledge exhibited by many as to income, lifestyles, motivation and happiness.

Oh, BTW, it looks like about 10-12 guys are in this thread so rather than snapping around about the sanctity of the Questions for RW thread, how about breaking the guy's responses into a "Can a Blue-Collar worker find his Princess in the FSU?" thread?

Bad day huh?

If you had bothered to read my post I think you would realise that, in my opinion, it's got more to do with the quality of a relationship more than anything. Never seeing your partner or spending most of your time on the road with him wouldn't constitute much of a quality relationship to most women no matter how nice the guy is and no matter how many nice things she has to play with in her empty house. "Stepping up" is a matter of perspective.

I'll also stand by my comment that your opinion is as meaningless as mine in this but I'm betting mine is closer to what the average FSUW would think.

[Lily]

Invest 2-3 years of your life right now. Save a few more $$$, get to some real nice leveled and stabled plain in your life, then find someone to enjoy it with. You will only be 30-31 by then..

IMHO, this is the best advice.

Right now, I mean. Two years of truck driving is a lot. Please start getting out of there.

[ECOCKS]

It seems to me the author has an elevated risk of attracting a green card woman. While such a woman may not act on her desire to marry someone for a GC, because she realizes she would have to spend several years with a person she is indifferent about at best, and despises at worst. This obstacle is removed by the fact that the author isn't going to be home most of the time. Honestly, i've never met the proverbial GC girl, but people say they are out there I don't look for russian friends though, so..

You raise good points Aloe. That's why, instead of inventing issues like being sluts, smart gals will look to the realities involved in a relationship like this one. A woman married to an OTR driver will have to be largely responsible for keeping the home together since her husband is away a lot. If children are involved, she's probably doing all the Mommy AND the Daddy jobs. Some wives in this instance also take on the business partner role of being the bookkeeper, billing clerk and scheduling dispatcher for their family business. It's one of those types of jobs where the wife can be a strong asset for the husband to rely on or a disaster which creates stress and chaos for all concerned.

Almost everyone here is advising that the OP read up, be patient, search for love and plan adequately on building a long-term relationship before jumping into marriage. Plenty of guys and gals can help him spot the GC girls and hopefully he'll avoid those who think that American investment bankers and neurosurgeons look for GF's overseas.

Gee, I wonder how tall he is.....

[wicheese]

IMHO, this is the best advice.

Right now, I mean. Two years of truck driving is a lot. Please start getting out of there.

I'm late to the topic, but I'll agree that this is the best advice. The OP has a B.S., he has been in the military for 8 years, and he has goals (not a bad resume for someone only 27). Once he gets in his chosen field, then I feel that his options, for a future wife, will greatly expand, not only in the FSU but also in the home market.  

Something else that has not been asked directly is what type of FSUW does he want to attract (indirectly alluded to in some comments)? If he's looking for a University educated lady (to match his B.S.) then it becomes even more important that he makes the investment in the life change now or else the simple answer to his question is "no".

As a related story, I know someone with three graduate degrees and he always comaplains about the bad dating scene locally, thinking women should be flocking to him as he's well educated. What he's lost site of is the fact that he's unemployed in his field (works in real estate now as a temp. fix) and needs to fix that first before finding the women of his dreams. Taking a little time is not such a bad thing when making a decision we hope will last a lifetime.

[wcnwzrd]

IMHO, this is the best advice.

Right now, I mean. Two years of truck driving is a lot. Please start getting out of there.

I have been trying but unfortunately, most areas aren't hiring in my career field unless i want to go be a prison guard, which for me i consider a step down in both pay and options. As i have stated before, this wasn't my chosen career but it is what got the bills paid and I will be leaving as soon as one of the many departments I have applied to gives me an offer.

As for the type of woman I am looking for, education doesn't matter. I want someone who will be happy with whatever she decides to do in life. if that means staying at home and taking care of the house while I work then so be it. If she wants to go to school I will support her anyway that I can. I want someone who will follow/lead when needed but is beside me most of the time (decision/attitude wise). I woman that can enjoy a night out under the stars just as much as a dinner at a fancy restaurant. I am not looking for a model or 100% angel.

[Jumper]

While occupation may indeed cause your search to be more challenging , locally or internationally..
the thread itself amuses me.

It's a fairly safe bet most truck drivers, here, in the FSU , or pretty much anywhere in the world,
have wives (or steady girlfriends)

Obviously they get past the challenges in general..

 I know of more single Doctors, than single truck drivers ,for example,,but have no idea on statistics..
I also know just as many white collar divorced couples,as blue collar ones,
so i find the ol' *money being listed as "the" cause of divorce*  as strange,but have seen those same studies over and over.
I believe it to be a convenient excuse, no more no less.
It is simpjky easier to piont at external influences than ones self,
and I've yet to see a study that showed wealthier people are generally any happier or have any less marital problems than a more average standard of living.


I think Ed's point was many, or even most , RW you meet would be considered from a blue collar brackground
in general.(despite FSU degrees)

I think many of the RW replying are indicating life as a "truckers widow" wouldn't be  one sought by many RW willing to consider relocation.

Both points seem valid.


Also as Ed  asked, if you are more into wiccan than simply a funny screen name?
 that might make things challenging in the FSU..it would seem to be found by many as an oddity.

 

Good Luck

[Faux Pas]

Also as Ed  asked, if you are more into wiccan than simply a funny screen name?
 that might make things challenging in the FSU..it would seem to be found by many as an oddity.

I saw that too and a bit surprised someone hasn't gotten all over it. I wouldn't see his Trucking profession as that much of a detriment but the wiccan thing even for those non-religious would be strange, maybe too strange. I suppose FSU has their share of wiccans or some related but I haven't seen or heard of it.

[Jumper]

I saw that too and a bit surprised someone hasn't gotten all over it. I wouldn't see his Trucking profession as that much of a detriment but the wiccan thing even for those non-religious would be strange, maybe too strange. I suppose FSU has their share of wiccans or some related but I haven't seen or heard of it.

maybe gypsies?

I know several ratiional RW ,absolutel;y convinced the gypsies can put spells ,or the *evil eye* on you?
and gypsies seemingly like a nomadic lidfestyle..

I've seen more  of them in FSU than the west..
so might be a positve.
 

Yes i'm just being silly, and  i know it doesnt represent "wiccan" accurately,but it represents what the  RW i know initial/surface impressions of it would be ..

[GQBlues]

I saw that too and a bit surprised someone hasn't gotten all over it. I wouldn't see his Trucking profession as that much of a detriment but the wiccan thing even for those non-religious would be strange, maybe too strange. I suppose FSU has their share of wiccans or some related but I haven't seen or heard of it.

Strange? From an UBERsuperstitious culture? 

[Ludmila]

OP,

these ladies have given you part of their time, demonstrating readiness to help, inform and en corage you, yet I haven't seen any  at least " thanks" or " I appreciate", etc...... This very fact alone is VERY DISAPPOINTING and speaks louder to me than any info on your degrees. if i were your future girl's friend, I'd point at this.

I am afraid, you have been  overestimating your life situation to some degree .......since looong ago.

I'm afraid, you are an example of an "American product", who is too proud of himself without  convincing grounds for that.

Plus, there has been an increasing number of divorces between AM and RW, who married for a "deal"  ( like in case of big age difference, attracting with money, etc) judging by the info from Russian fiancees and brides site.....). So, think about it......

( In case it matters to you, our  marriage is 9 years old, and we have covered a long way together....... )

[Jooky]

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

It sounds like you have a great opportunity to meet women all over the country. Why not do just that?

Why Russia? You haven't mentioned anything that you're looking for that would make me recommend looking in Russia.

My main concern is that I don't want to put out the effort and money of finding an FSU mate if in the end I'm still empty handed.

That's a big issue. Most guys that look for a Russian wife come up empty handed. There are no guarantees.