Its mostly about finding a wealthy westerner, isn't it? :)

[Andreas]

Uh oh, where do i start... Men who do not compromise,

I can compromise on a lot of things, just not (too much) when it comes to my training and my job (a man's gotta work, after all).

men who show off all the time,

What makes you think that I "show off" in real life?

maniacs who tear up their own body in spite of any kind of common sense, a

You call it "being a maniac", I call it dedication and having a "kick ass attitude".

Case in point - former Worlds Strongest Man (Jouko Ahola from Finland). Hint: about 30 seconds out, you'll see what separates the men from the boys :

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1MgbRluFGQ[/youtube]

[Andreas]

Just ot add to this good advice... your profile will often show your weight of 130Kg. While you may be in good shape, without a full body picture women might not get the message that a man of 130Kg can be in excellent physical shape.

Well, any profile of mine will also state that I train. A lot.

Also note that power lifting in Russia has several negative connotations, from using dangerous food supplements to involvement in the criminal world.
These factors may weigh heavy on the reaactions you receive.

Since Russia (and Ukraine) are dominating nations in the strength scene (kind of what Canada is in hockey, or the USA in basketball), one would think that Russian women appreciated musculuar and masculine men (unlike the perverted and ball-crushing, man hating feminists in western Europe who - de facto - wants a woman with a penis (aka a "metrosexual" man instead of something that actually resembles a real man).

[BillyB]

Well, any profile of mine will also state that I train. A lot.

Like you I'm looking for a high quality family oriented woman but training a lot may be hurting your chances finding a family oriented woman. I remember getting the phone number of a local Asian lady and invited her to dinner. She said she goes dancing every day and asked me to come. I told her lets go to dinner first but she could only see me at her dancing hall. I was turned off by her lifestyle. Nothing wrong with that but she was so focused on dancing that she couldn't accept my invitation to dinner as simple as it was. She was too busy doing what she personally liked as if it were some kind of addiction.

Andreas, if you find a family oriented woman, I suggest you make some lifestyle changes that is geared for the family and that means less gym time for yourself and more time with the family or you'll lose what may be a great woman.

[Andreas]

Like you I'm looking for a high quality family oriented woman but training a lot may be hurting your chances finding a family oriented woman. I remember getting the phone number of a local Asian lady and invited her to dinner. She said she goes dancing every day and asked me to come. I told her lets go to dinner first but she could only see me at her dancing hall. I was turned off by her lifestyle. Nothing wrong with that but she was so focused on dancing that she couldn't accept my invitation to dinner as simple as it was. She was too busy doing what she personally liked as if it were some kind of addiction.

Andreas, if you find a family oriented woman, I suggest you make some lifestyle changes that is geared for the family and that means less gym time for yourself and more time with the family or you'll lose what may be a great woman.

The guys at our gym that compete in powerlifting and have children usually build a gym at home (in their garage or cellar). I've probably do this as well if I meet a high quality woman and have children with her.

[Chicagoguy]

Andreas,

Does Joulo Ahola get a nosebleed from lifting in the video you posted ?

[Andreas]

Andreas,

Does Joulo Ahola get a nosebleed from lifting in the video you posted ?

Yes, Jouko Ahola has a nice and good nose bleeding going from the second rep.

[Chicagoguy]

Is this normal and OK ?

[Andreas]

Is this normal and OK ?

No, its quite rare, but some guys are "bleeders", though.
I remember a guy that I competed against in the "Norway's Strongest Man" competition who had nose bleeding going on all the time.

Guys who take a lot of steroids tend to bleed more often, as it raises their blood pressure.

[BC]

Andreas,

In the AF, there two bodybuilders shared a room in the dorm I stayed in.  They were always lifting, preparing their own 'body food', adding supplements, drinking nasty looking drinks etc etc.. They grew and grew over the year I was there.

I rarely saw either of them out on the town just having a good time with the ladies. In fact I can't remember either having a GF during this time.

In the shower their huge bodies made their penis seem quite small, almost ridiculously so.

I can imagine that keeping such form is a lifetime deal - maybe gals are worried their huge BF will do an 'Arnold' on them.


Here's an article I found interesting:

http://liftforlife.com/content/bodybuilding-fitness-diet-health-articles/alternative-health/380-bigorexia

Maybe it boils down to one of those 'having one's cake and eating it too' kinda things.

Do you really have room in your life for a woman?.. any woman regardless of origin? Is your interest in RW due to a belief that a FSU woman can somehow adapt or better yet defer to your lifestyle?



 

 

[acrzybear]

What makes you think I've had any "failed relationships" and that I have an "inhability" to land "a woman"?
Do you really think that I would settle for just "a woman"?
She has to be an alpha female, and just as she has to be worthy of being put on a pedestal, she too has to put me on a pedestal.

Unless I land an awesome girl who feels that she hit the jackpot by landing me, then I rather be single. Who the *snip* wants second best, right?

You come across as such an alpha male  by your previous post the problem I see is you finding a woman that can love you as much as you love yourself.

The problem is as follows;

If you are genuinely an alpha male (and not a keyboard rambo) you will always need to be in control. If you find an alpha female like you say then the your relationship will always be a power struggle and no one will be happy/content as the two of you will be fighting for the dominate role.


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[Andreas]

In the shower their huge bodies made their penis seem quite small, almost ridiculously so.

Thank God my penis is big enough to "support" a behemoth body (and it truly, truly is).

I can imagine that keeping such form is a lifetime deal - maybe gals are worried their huge BF will do an 'Arnold' on them.

We have a guy at our gym who is (roughly) 60 years old who can bench press over 400lbs with a body weight of about 200lbs. He has six pack abs and looks like a Greek god.

Also, I once used to work out with Odd Haugen (before he moved back to the States).
Odd won the "America's Strongest Man" competition at age 50. He competed in the "World's Strongest Man" competition after that as well.

Here's an article I found interesting:

http://liftforlife.com/content/bodybuilding-fitness-diet-health-articles/alternative-health/380-bigorexia

Yeah, I've probably got "that" too. Again - I call it "dedication" others might choose to call it "obsession".

Do you really have room in your life for a woman?

I think I could squeeze her in there somewhere; if I get the right kind of girl. Let's say that she joins me in the gym a couple of days a week, and we do cardio together (for example go swimming or skiing instead of riding the elliptical machine alone like I do now).

There's definitely no room for a "party girl" in my life, though.

Is your interest in RW due to a belief that a FSU woman can somehow adapt or better yet defer to your lifestyle?

Yes, that's pretty much it. I like to find a somewhat boring girl who likes to work out and enjoy quite weekends without the need to spend/waste energy at night clubs and other boring stuff that isn't billable, nor builds a better and stronger body. 

[JR]

What makes you think I've had any "failed relationships" and that I have an "inhability" to land "a woman"? (What is there to make me think you've had any successful ones, are you married?)
Do you really think that I would settle for just "a woman"? (I have no idea what you would "settle" for)
She has to be an alpha female, and just as she has to be worthy of being put on a pedestal, she too has to put me on a pedestal. (Two Alpha's usually end up fighting until one rules the pack, just how it works. Besides that you've stated you deserve the "trophy" hot woman waiting for you when you get home but a hot alpha probably won't be waiting at home for you. She'll be out doing her own thing and not sitting around waiting for the king to arrive.)

Unless I land an awesome girl who feels that she hit the jackpot by landing me, then I rather be single. Who the *snip* wants second best, right?
(I agree that you should not settle for less)

I am certain the woman you descibe exists in your country. I have this feeling that as with most men in this endeavor you are justifying a search out of your own country because of internal issues, not external. Just my two cents worth, I don't know you or your country. I'm simply not buying that all the women of your country are as you describe them.

[kievstar]

Andreas, the problem with the strongest man competition is they play with tires and beer kegs.  Fun to watch but squats and bench pressing does not prove how tough someone is or strong.  They also lack stamina and run extremely slow. 

When these guys get into anything goes type fighting they get killed.  You should try ultimate fighting as that is where the strong guys are.  Also, Russians dominate the hockey scene not Canadians. 

 

[Boethius]

Also, Russians dominate the hockey scene not Canadians.

Right.  How far, again, did Russia make it in the last Olympics?

The top scorer in the NHL last year was Swedish, the second leading scorer, Canadian.  Currently, the leading scorer is Canadian, the second leading scorer is also Canadian.

More Canadians still play in the NHL than any other nationality.  And, no matter what the Russians say, their league is not on par with the NHL.

[mies]

I think I could squeeze her in there somewhere; if I get the right kind of girl. Let's say that she joins me in the gym a couple of days a week, and we do cardio together (for example go swimming or skiing instead of riding the elliptical machine alone like I do now).

opinion 1: look at sports schools/colleges (either in Norway or in Russia/Ukraine).

opinion 2: you do know that professional sport ends up in serious health issues, more so - for females. One of the quite typical problem for women is complications with child bearing. I think you need to decide - whether you want a competitive alpha sportswoman as your life partner, or a "real family-oriented" woman with several children. You'll probably be at best if you find the moderate option - few hours of light sports weekly, good wife and mother.  

opinion 3: if she will have to go to gym with you, work, and have kids - I honestly do not see who's going to take care of kids and the household. You'll most likely need to get a nanny and a maid to keep the house and children in order.

[Gylden]

Andreas,
I think by now you get the picture. What is going to be the most difficult in your case, is not women, but your expectations of a woman and your complete dedication to your sport and work. Not to say that there isn't a woman out there somewhere who might qualify, just that it is going to be a VERY narrow playing field.

I hope you realise (and I am sure you do) most women would not be thrilled with the lifestyle you offer, regardless of the assumed wealth. About finding a wealthy westerner, IMO most women, while of course looking for financial stability in a partner they are not hyper focused on the man being "rich".

If I were you I would look more to the USA, Sweden, Finland and Poland, as these are the countries with the majority of weight lifting women champions.

[GQBlues]

Guys who take a lot of steroids tend to bleed more often, as it raises their blood pressure.

Amen to that. Because it puts a lot of stress and pressure on the linings of your veins.

FWIW Andreas, I'm not a weight-lifter but I'm fairly active in sports. Thankfully, my wife took interest in most/all of what I like to do. Since she arrived and we got married, she participated in a lot of my sport activities...

Hoops, yeah...both her free throwing and dribbling had gotten better. She's starting to understand to properly use her knee, wrist and elbows and not think about the movement. Her best so far is 7 in a row without a miss...

Surfing (ok, Boogie boarding for her). Mumski/Popski and even her friends would go to the beach these days with boogie boards in tow. She can really paddle and catch a good wave these days, too. She understands the feeling of getting caught in a wash cycle. She's great at snowboarding (loves it) and roller blade pretty nicely these days now, too.

Tennis, golf, even biking. We'd spend the day/weekend in Sta Barbara riding in and around the city, beaches and foothill trails. I got her a hybrid bike so she can use it both on the street and off terrain.

She just loves to camp and hike any chance we get. She said she'd soon try rock climbing with me as soon as she gets more upper-body strenght.

About the only thing she can't do that I introduced her to is Trikking. She can't find the sweet spot to keep the motion so she's forced to push pedal all the time and she plain burns out. She honestly tried hard to learn before and resulted on a swollen ankle, so she gave that up.

She still needs a little more time to get comfortable around horses too. As soon as she understands she's in command and not be intimidated beyond a fast gallop, she should be fine.

Somewhere out there on the virtual word are pictures and videos of her doing all of these sport activities. She's a trooper. Almost a typical American woman.

A woman in love will go to the ends of the world for you. If you have the time and patience to put into your search...you may find someone who will make your life as part of her own.

Maybe Russian gymnast? Olga Korbut comes to mind  

[Jumper]

Almost a typical American woman

 got to love that GQ.. lol




 he can certainly find active sports enthusiasts!
as a generality i've found most RW to be "sporty" ,
very  open or enthuisiastic to try anything new along those lines,
(snowboarding/surfing/ diving/ camping, outdoors activities,etc etc  )


but to me the  weightlifting thing there, just doesnt seem to be a huge turn on for a lot of women.
They may really admire the phsique , or the dedication needed..
but it just seems many will instead stereotype the mentality and excess..   negatively.

this question is better answered by the women,,

but   for a proposed long tern m relationship-
*i'm a weightlifter who seriously trains..and my world pretty much revolves around that*
 ,just doesnt have the samne appeal to many that *i'm active in sports -  . lets go body boarding today,,, skiing tomorrow, diving omn friday *....does?

just my take..


 i used to be very one tracked,extreemly dedicated to a given sport, it occupied my time  24/7 ,
as that is  the only way you have any success in it.I certainly recognized and  acknowledged that my personal ilfe might suffer from that..(granted some women are attracted exactly to that though, so there's a head for every hat)

 So andreas , yes some adapted thier life around mine, it was not entirely fair, and not a great foundation for an equal relationship. I was making a specific  choice and recognized the pitfalls, I was up front about it to anyone , and I accepted the compromises in my social or personal life as  those items  were secondary to the main  focus.
Later that focus changed , and with that it certainly became much   easier to maintain a long term relationship.


if you are as dedicated as you appear to be ..
she will initially, or later, likely view it as her taking  the back seat to your other main interest..

(you have heard of a *golf widow* right ? gator and GQ probably have  lol)
 ..
anyway its not *right or wrong*, it's simply recognizing what is important to you , and why.

for example some real "why" soul searching of why you are so dedicated to the sport that likely isnt your real bread and butter and never will be.It effects your life both positively and negatively . its up to you to decide why it would even be so important
to you to be any factor.
i'm not picking on you , i've walked in those shoes, had that soul searching process, sustained far greater injuries.
certainly took greater risks,it was worth it to me then.  I have no regrets , but it simply isn't as important now..
other things have a much higher priority because my focus changed.

You can find someone supportive of all you do..
just recognize the search difficulty is increased,and understand why.

perahps it isnt about compromising yourself, it's about balancing the priorities in your life?
or where you are at with them "right now" which may, or may not , change in time.

[mies]

Maybe Russian gymnast? Olga Korbut comes to mind  

how many children on average the female gymnasts have?

[wicheese]

I do most of activities you describe, and was doing them while still in Ukraine. It's not about doing sports for the sake of love.

On a separate note: how many children on average the female gymnasts have?

It you are talking about the old Soviet System, the answer would not be too many as they were on steriods at a young age and that really messed them up.

***Source: Old FSUW girlfriend who mentioned that her parents pulled her out of the gymnastics program to avoid future health problems.***

[mies]

It you are talking about the old Soviet System, the answer would not be too many as they were on steriods at a young age and that really messed them up.

***Source: Old FSUW girlfriend who mentioned that her parents pulled her out of the gymnastics program to avoid future health problems.***

It's not only because of taking steroids.

[Andreas]

I am certain the woman you descibe exists in your country. I have this feeling that as with most men in this endeavor you are justifying a search out of your own country because of internal issues, not external. Just my two cents worth, I don't know you or your country. I'm simply not buying that all the women of your country are as you describe them.

Fair enough.
But you should also think about this: Norway is almost as large as Germany, but has only (roughly) 4.5 million citizens. The distance from Northern Norway to the south of Norway is about the same as the distance from Oslo to Rome. This means that the amount of available women in any given area is quite small. If one is picky and odd as well (like me) it is only logical to cast a wider net, I would think.

[Andreas]

opinion 1: look at sports schools/colleges (either in Norway or in Russia/Ukraine).

That's a good tip.

opinion 2: you do know that professional sport ends up in serious health issues, more so - for females. One of the quite typical problem for women is complications with child bearing. I think you need to decide - whether you want a competitive alpha sportswoman as your life partner, or a "real family-oriented" woman with several children. You'll probably be at best if you find the moderate option - few hours of light sports weekly, good wife and mother.  

I agree. The best is probably a girl who likes to work out, but who doesn't push herself quite as extremely as I do. We can go about our training with different weights and intensity; I can lift 200kgs, she can lift 20kgs .

opinion 3: if she will have to go to gym with you, work, and have kids - I honestly do not see who's going to take care of kids and the household. You'll most likely need to get a nanny and a maid to keep the house and children in order.

When/if I have children, I will buy a house and build a home gym. I realize that going away to train is not an option when having a wife, children etc.

A maid is always a good idea, though, as I would prefer that m,y future wife has some energy left for other things than house work. :kissing: 

[mies]

We can go about our training with different weights and intensity; I can lift 200kgs, she can lift 20kgs .

I would not even know if 20kg a lot or normal weight since i do not lift weights. Is it much?
Ok, so we basically need to narrow down the search from all sports women to just weight lifters. Fair enough.
What is the heaviest (weightlifter) woman you would feel attracted to? Or do you prefer sturdy-built women in general?

If you enjoy russian classics, than you probably know that *some* russian women are known for being able to stop galloping horse. ))

My thoughts on weight and sports (other women may disagree) - i would feel intimidated by a very strong, heavy-weight, dominant alpha-male. With my "around 50kg" weight, if the guy weighting 130+ kg, is a weight-lifter, and will accidentally get mad and punch me - I will have very few chances to get away easily and in one piece. The guy may never hit woman, and may not be violent towards women, but if he is opinionated, dominating, hot-blooded, and physically strong - I do not want to take chances with him. Why I am telling this - maybe to explain to Andreas why some of the women get attracted to "metrosexual weak types", and less attracted to "real man strong types." No offense. If there is just one component: either the strong physique, or the alpha spirit - i do not perceive it as a possible threat. and btw - I was never hit by a man. But i know that it is not uncommon either in Russia, or in the Western countries.

[GQBlues]

how many children on average the female gymnasts have?

On average? Like I follow every female gymnast's life? LOL...

What I do know was Nadia Comaneci (IMO the greatest female gymnast of all time) married Bart Connor, an American gymnast, and I believe they do in fact had a child not too long ago.

But Andreas still need to find a date so having children seem rather premature at this point...

Heck, if not gymnast, look for a tennis player. Maria Sharapova is dating Sasha Vujacic, which I'm sure Andreas is very familiar with and in terms of 'time', they are both pre-occupied with their respective 'sports' but still find time for romance...

Annika gave up her busy sport/business life to have a family...So they're out there..

But if I were Andreas, I just as soon find out if Erin Barry is still available before Tony Parker finalizes his divorce with his desperate housewife...total babe, Erin that is...