What % of these women do you think will marry ANYONE to move to america

[giwaffe]

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

I'm new to this I seen someone post about it on another forum so I did a search and found this site. Everything I've always heard is they just want to get to the USA then will leave you once they can apply for permanent residency.


I'm a young guy only 21 and I don't have a problem getting women here but I've always liked russian women and I think they would be a lot less materialistic and just have a whole different attitude.

[Jumper]

I wouldn't begin to guess at some percentage??
It would be incredibly small in the overall general populace.

The reality is most RW would not seriously look into  marrying anyone so far away from thier home country , language, family and culture .They simple would never think about it , they have lives,friends family now 

Some would consider it if they were single, and met a foriegn man by chance.  

Others, a rather much smaller percentage,  would indeed actively look to find a good man wherever he might live,
 and seriously consider the hardships of adapting to a new life ,language and culture.


A small percent might have such desperate lives , and poor future prospects , they would take any train out of dodge.
That is where the horror stories you've heard come from,they are real.


Many RW have normal lives, employment and family..
America itself isnt considered the *promised land* by most.In generrakl they much prefer to staty in ther FSU, or perhaps Europe.


Your biggest misconception, would be that women in your age range are any less materialistic than American women.
I would say as a generality , a 20 yo RW is equally into such things,
 and often more into *status* than her western counter part.
The car you drive, the brand shoes you wear, and what mobile phone you have ,
would be more relevent *on average* than it would be to a 20yo western girl.

Now of course exceptions abound!!   on both sides of the ocean, but we are talking about generalites.


You are 21,  you could find a girlfriend there easily,
yet to marry might be a slight hurdle??
Generally even a 18- 21 yo RW will tend to think you are way too young to settle down or marry.
Up to you to convince them otherwise of this stereotype.
  

[Jumper]

If you like Russian women for some particular reason ,then i'd advise looking on facebook, Mamba.ru (singles.ru)
and other social networking or singles sites for RW that live in your area.
There are probably far more than you realize.

[I/O]

Too many reasons to list but the %'s would be tiny.

[Daveman]

In the same direction as AJ and I/O,

While I can't put a percentage on this, my guess is not a very large percentile.  Marry without love hoping it will grow - much higher. Marrying the man with the most money - much higher.  Marrying a man and hoping to upgrade to a different man once inside the country of choice because of a larger pool of choices - a little higher.  But, just to come to America?  nah, though depending on the country of origin, a little higher again could be to LEAVE her country for a better economic situation. 

The percentage would also vary largely, perhaps exponentially when viewing various groups of ladies.. e.g., those solely on websites targeting foreign men, those who are on sites for foreign men as well as domestic men, those who are on no sites and one meets over there, those not looking for a foreign man but open to the idea. 

Now all of this is based on my personal communication and observation. Perhaps the compass varies a little from true north.

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

I'm new to this I seen someone post about it on another forum so I did a search and found this site. Everything I've always heard is they just want to get to the USA then will leave you once they can apply for permanent residency.


I'm a young guy only 21 and I don't have a problem getting women here but I've always liked russian women and I think they would be a lot less materialistic and just have a whole different attitude.

Methinks youthinks shethinks something shethinks not!   Nope, there's not much difference in materialism levels.  Some are some aren't but I would surmise that those specifically seeking a foreign man would fall to a higher percentage toward the "are" category within that group.

[HazyKnight]

Dude, get real. If you can score and you got game, then you wouldn't even be considering this.

I thought the same thing at first. Actually, you feel fear of meeting someone then getting duped, that's what this is really about.

Think about it, just like the other guys said, they don't want to just jump ship and leave their whole family, everything they know on some guy who could kill them or force them into prostitution. If you think about it, the risks are much higher for them.

[Doll]

What % of these women

It is very small. Like I said before, to come here hoping to survive alone is like a suicide.
If life is decent, we do not leave husbands.

[Doll]

I think they would be a lot less materialistic

It is funny. AW are less materialistic.

[giwaffe]

AJ- Thanks, I was under the impression that they were pretty much looking for any rich man, or someone who they can marry then divorce as soon as they get where ever they move and that's not what I want obviously. And I'll check those sites out, a girl I dated a few years ago was from Ukraine I just think it would be more interesting to be with one who isn't already here that's from Romania, Latvia or where ever not only Russia or Ukraine but that's my preference .

Daveman- I don't mean just to come to America like America is the be all end all but all those things you mentioned is pretty much what comes to mind when I think of meeting a girl online from over there, no offense to anyone thats why I'm asking. I'm not rich but I do pretty good for my self and I don't want a women like that. I'm gone 2 weeks at a time for work then off 2 weeks and I'm sure that would be a problem.

And HazyKnight, me get real? Not everyone looking for a women in Russia or where ever has no game and can't get laid dude like you seem to think.

[TomT]

To be successful, one has to be better at judging character than one's adversary is at being devious. This holds true wherever one searches for a wife.

[Daveman]

To be successful, one has to be better at judging character than one's adversary is at being devious. This holds true wherever one searches for a wife.

And it also holds true in almost any facet of life. 

[Gylden]

I agree with TomT and Doll. Russian women are not less materialistic than AM. Also better not be too naive when it comes to judging people. I'll add, you better have a calculator and a good income.
IMO there are plenty of sincere women in the world as a whole (I would venture to say more women than men) the FSU included. Likewise there are scammers everywhere in the world.

[Nat]

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

Well, a very very small percent will use any guy, as the choice is quite wide, so even for this doubtful purpose a girl can choose pretty nice catch

I'm a young guy only 21 and I don't have a problem getting women here but I've always liked russian women and I think they would be a lot less materialistic and just have a whole different attitude.

Honey, you're sooo young, you absolutely don't belong here. Here men are looking for wives. They spend a lot of efforts, time and money to bring somebody from abroad to live with them for quite a long time if not forever, because they're in the place in their life when they want to settle down. If you invite somebody from abroad to live with you, to leave everything there and start from the very beginning in a new place, you take a huge responsibility for this person. Do you need this responsibility just because you like how Russian girls look?
On the other hand, there are a lot of Russian girls, who already live in the USA - students, children of immigrants, etc. They're of your age, and they don't require your responsibility for their life, so it's easier and more clever to get acquainted with them

[seraphimangel]

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

Small, pretty damn small.  But if they are, I'd be very careful, think about the kind of person who would do such a thing?

I'm new to this I seen someone post about it on another forum so I did a search and found this site. Everything I've always heard is they just want to get to the USA then will leave you once they can apply for permanent residency.

There are some people like that, but once again, you are judging based on horror stories and only those who have the kind of personalities who would willingly and easily leave everything behind.

I'm a young guy only 21 and I don't have a problem getting women here but I've always liked russian women and I think they would be a lot less materialistic and just have a whole different attitude.

Stick to Americans.  I was in Piter (Russia) and Riga (Latvia) recently and mainly to hang out with friends now.  But you would be grossly misinformed to believe that they are less materialistic.  An Iphone is a status symbol there to young people.  It's silly really...

I've found that people there tend to be very distrusting of Americans as a whole, but once they get to know you (and please note, this takes.... quite a while) they become a whole new human being, and I've been impressed... usually.  But seriously, I would say their young population is more materialistic than ours. 

So, save some money, jump a plane, flights to Russia are cheap.... it's actually more expensive I've found to go to Latvia or Ukraine... Russia costs more on land.  It will answer most questions for you as far as culture, and dude, make a male friend (outgoing) there through some method.  Easiest thing in the world to go to places and meet people this way. 

OH! and the girls I have met who were actually good girls who would be interested in marrying a foreigner, heavily favored the idea of being with western europeans over americans.  It's closer to their families and they can visit easier... just a thought, most of them don't imagine America to be a savior or answer to their life problems.  FYI.

[thompsongunner06]

OK,,,you have the wrong attitude. If you are worried about someone leaving you you are already looking to loose. The women are looking to have a good life,,,go to a Russian town or Ukraine etc,,,,see how the life there is. Its tough in some areas. To come here to the US is a homerun! If you treat a women right and dont beat her or chain her to your house and you support her like a human she would not leave you. Make sure you have the same goals and likes and you woul be OK. Now unless you have a crystal ball,,,you cannot be sure any women even an American, would never leave you.Its a full time job man! Keep her happy and you will be happy. Russian/Ukraine women are very much old fashioned and want a good life and will prob send some money back home. If you love them and support them you might find a life long love. Beat her,treat her like an animal and they will run. The country does not matter. I love going to see my wifes family,,they treat me very well. I can not even buy a drink when I am with them! They really treat me well because I treat my wife well and she is HAPPY! Now if your 60 and she is 21,,,thats another thing and I'm not going there!

[neo]

I just think you will struggle at 21 to come to terms with what marriage to a UW/RW means. We have got used to western relationships that feel more like 2 single people living together, at 30 i still felt quite claustrophobic in my marriage and only now at 36 when i have got tired of running round like a cat on heat do i feel ready to commit to a hot 22 year old with a perky bottom.

These girls grow up fast, and when they get married take over your life in its entirety, If i hadn't had such a good run at being a bachelor when i was in my 20's i don't think it would matter how much of a princess my other half was she would drive me mental. its like being mothered by a lap-dancer, before you get married you walk around permenantly on heat and after you get married having your smoking hot busty baby nagging you to wear a vest, eat more vegetables etc just seems wrong until you hit a certain age when having a woman run around after you is a bonus not a prison

[Turboguy]

I would have to agree with the others.  The percentage of woman who would marry ANY man just to get to America is very small.  I do think when a RW and AM marry the man is more often in love with the woman and the woman may often not really feel love for the AM but thinks he is a good man who she can make a nice life with and hopes that in time she will learn to love the guy.  I have heard that often from RW so I think there is a lot of that.  I think in the early days of AM-RW marriages, let's say back in the 90's there were a lot of women who would have married most any man to escape from a life that seemed very bad at the time but the economy there has improved and women are no longer as desperate.  

I also think that back in the 90's America was the country of choice.  I think do to our foreign policy, or economic problems and the bad PR the USA has received Europe does look better to some of the woman and the added bonus is they can go back home easier for a visit.

As far as you looking to Russia at age 21 for a wife and the attraction you find for RW I think it is pretty understandable.  There are a lot of very pretty RW, they have cute accents, and many are good women who will make a great wife.  As far as them not being materialistic some are and some are not.  Most all of them however are very concerned about how others perceive them.  If they have to go down to the corner to the convenience store to pick up a loaf of bread they will spend a lot of time making sure they look nice to go out where AW thrown on a sweat shirt and go get the bread.  My wife is very frugal but she always takes care to make sure she looks good.  

One other problem you might encounter is that most of the women on the dating sites start at about age 21.  I would guess at your age the range you would be interested in is 18-21 which narrows the choices a lot.  There are some to choose from but you won't have as big a selection as you will in another 5-10 years.  Personally having walked around this planet and experienced a lot more of life than you have I think you would be smart to get a few more years under your belt before you settle down.  Enjoy life a little and see what is out there.  That is your choice and what ever you decide needs to be what is right for you.  

Personally I would not worry a lot that the woman you find might be using you as a mule to get to America.  I won't say it doesn't happen but most women are content to stay happily married if they have a good man who treats them well.   If they are happy why change things?   Personally, I think you should go for it but not be in a hurry.  Make some trips.  Meet a lot of RW and when one really hits you as the one you want to spend your life with then go for it.  

Neo, you posted while I was writing this and I have to say there is a lot of truth in your post. 

[neo]

TG's post reminded me of something a girl said to me in Russia when i asked her whether russians were optimists or pessimists.

woman 1:"my husband hits me every day. what can i do?"
woman 2:"why don't you leave him?"
woman 1:"because i might end up with a husband who hits me twice a day!"

[chivo]

I don't think RW are any more materialistic than AW, at least not from my experience. Some of it will depend on the area they live like in America, i.e Moscow compared to a smaller Russian city, New York city comapred to Lubbock, for instance.

If I were 21 I would try to establish relationships with some young FSUW (18-24) who will have an easier time visiting you than their older post graduate sisters. This way you can see what develops over time with them while still maintaining your single status and dating locally.

You have something many on this board don't...and that is time. Use it wisely and you could be sitting in the catbird seat.

I just think you will struggle at 21 to come to terms with what marriage to a UW/RW means. We have got used to western relationships that feel more like 2 single people living together, at 30 i still felt quite claustrophobic in my marriage and only now at 36 when i have got tired of running round like a cat on heat do i feel ready to commit to a hot 22 year old with a perky bottom.

These girls grow up fast, and when they get married take over your life in its entirety, If i hadn't had such a good run at being a bachelor when i was in my 20's i don't think it would matter how much of a princess my other half was she would drive me mental. its like being mothered by a lap-dancer, before you get married you walk around permenantly on heat and after you get married having your smoking hot busty baby nagging you to wear a vest, eat more vegetables etc just seems wrong until you hit a certain age when having a woman run around after you is a bonus not a prison

A lot of truth to this which is why at 21 he can take his time. I don't completely agree with all of this, but I do have to remind my lady at times that I'm her man, not her son.

[giwaffe]

Thanks for the replies and advice from everyone, I guess I had the wrong idea from all the horror stories and people who don't really know what they're talking about. I did a little reading last night and it seems most of the scams are on the sites where you have to pay per message and girls who have you visit and take them on expensive vacations while they are dating several guys etc.

[chivo]

I'm new to this I seen someone post about it on another forum so I did a search and found this site.

This is by far the best board going on the subject at hand.

[Turboguy]

I think you have picked up an important point to avoid the wrong women.   Don't use any site where you must pay by the letter.  Search some more and you will find the sites we think are good, sites like Elena's where I met my wife and you have lots of time so spend the time finding the woman that is really right for you.  Finding a beautiful, sexy woman who will marry you is easy.  Finding the one who can be your best friend and partner in life is a little harder but worth the investment in time and money.

[Gator]

I'm a young guy only 21 and I don't have a problem getting women here but I've always liked russian women and I think they would be a lot less materialistic and just have a whole different attitude.

Welcome to RWD!  Why do you like RW?  Have you met RW?

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

I agree with the others that the percentage is small.  More relevant questions: 

1.  What percentage of RW considering foreign men will settle for a good man yet less than their dream man?
2.  What percentage are truly in love? Happy?  Committed?
3.  After adjusting to America and discovering the opportunities here, will they be contented with their married life? [The younger the woman, the more likely she will change].
4.  Do they have a long term plan that does not necessarily include you?

[JohnDearGreen]

What % of these women do you think just want to move to America and are just using any guy they can find as a way to get here and couldn't care less about them?

I'm new to this I seen someone post about it on another forum so I did a search and found this site. Everything I've always heard is they just want to get to the USA then will leave you once they can apply for permanent residency.

Marrying any guy they can find, and leaving them are two separate issues.    If you check some of the agency websites, you can see many, many ladies who have had zero contacts from men.    Would those ladies accept any offer?  Who knows.

When I lived in WV I met a 40-year old RW married to a 70-year old WV guy (not rich).  The guy could barely walk.  She was only about a 5/10 (excuse the numbers jive) but she was not looking to leave him.

[Doll]

1.  What percentage of RW considering foreign men will settle for a good man yet less than their dream man?

This percentage is quite big.