Introduction

[Knight Lion]

I just joined this site and have spent the last couple days reading and learning and it all seems pretty much common sense.  I would like to say I am new and in some ways it is true and in others it is not so I will begin at the beginning and maybe I will get blasted and maybe not, sort of like meeting your lady for the first time, huh ? !!  LOL

 I have been divorced for several years and after the first year I tried internet dating with much success but not real soul mate or potential candidate in sight.  Then a pop up drew my attention to the Russian Bride idea.  Yea I read it and began what has now been at least a five year personal study. I joined a couple different agencies and did the free profile thing on at least a hundred.  I only paid at two and quickly found out that with in 7 to 15 letter I would be ask for money for various reasons.  After stories I have read and what I know now, I am happy to say I never sent a dime to anyone, excluding paying the agency to send some letters.  I would say 500 dollars and and a couple year later of trying I gave up the idea as a hoax and a buisness fraud for agencies to make money.  I did learn alot and I knew that there were successes in the foreign bride realm but I was not sure how to get there and was tired of trying.  However I found myself still pouring through emails full of the most beautiful women.  Strange thing was I was taking more interest in what was in the background of the photos.

  During this time I still had my dream to met an authentic lady that shared the same family values I desired. I read at some sight a old Russian Folk tale of a soul divided in two half and that these halfs seached for each other, which explained the other half reference I would see from time to time.  It was a nice fairy tale.  I did not delve as much as before into the thing and just enjoyed looking at the photos and the rooms, studio's, apartments and landscapes. Dated a few girls and again grew weary of the attitude of AW.  I remembered a place that had web cams so I set out last year to try this one last time and find this Russian guy with the cam and what I assumed would be at least closer to reeal women that I could be some what sure were real, at least physically !  lol

 Guess, what !  Did not find the place but luckily I landed in a real live, top of the line, GRADE A agency !  I found  [glow=orange]KHERSON GIRLS!!!. [/glow] Stop scratching your head, Kevin ! Well it was obvious right away once I wrote some letters that these ladies were real and the feel as well as tone of the lettters where real in every way that life is. I think I just hung around a couple months and made sure I was ready to take this big jump and well as begin to learn the language and the culture.  I was well into my studying before I sent the first letter.  Bye the way I have read the Ten Commandment here and they to seem to be simply common sense.  I thought I would have a problem writing to 6 or 10 ladies but after seeing the length ot the replies(often short but well amswered)I thought different. Like everyone else I would think, why do they not write a real letter with some substance.  Again with a little common sense I figured #1 who wants an interpreter in the middle of a courtship and #2 how many times has this girl had a letter and no man to arrive to meet her. #3 they have agencies and tons of scams and maybe the women dont like the association (guilty by) and stigma attached but the is little alternative if you wish to meet someone not in your own back yard.  Yes there are many more reasons but I leave them to your own logic.

  Ok now I have 6 or 10, out of 12 ladies that definately are willing to meet me and the one I was initially attracted to has not respondes and preference(only on looks)2 and 3 have replied.  After a few letters these 2 suddenly dissappear and then appear on the engaged boyfriend list.  Just my luck !  LOL  But hey I am happy for them and perhaps fate yet has a role to play.  I am writing a couple now that are very nice and I want to know them better before I arrive.  I have a date planned and my passport and Visa arrive and now I can get my ticket. Then my number one choice has answered the questions I have posed  to her and I am like uh oh !  Now what.  Honestly I can't believe she would be interested in me not that I look bad just as far as looks she could pick and choose I think.  Well I wait a few weeks to write her a real letter since I have not yet done so, she just answered the matchmaker questions. Yea I did it ! lol

[Knight Lion]

Sorry not sure when I would get cut off by this site !  I begin to correspond with this lady and Strangely I have a sense of this person but can not put my finger on it.  Its as if I know this person but it is not clear through translation.  The other two or three, I forget , that I am writing just fade out and one misinterprets a letter I write to her and blows me off, there for I don't bother to explain  it as she is like one, if not the most popular at the time.  In any case I really want to find out more about this lady that I think I will like.  By the way she had the best as well as the right answers to my questions. 

Sorry I did not spell check my first entry and my spelling is the Pitts !

Now this has been almost a year ago( this march ) that we began to write.  It was simply accident or fate that we found a way to communicate away from the agency.  It was not intentional but it happened.  I still use the agency and will do so in many ways in the future.  I think all the good agencies deserve our support but I will say that the best thing that happened was for us to make it on our own and it was a struggle.  She speaks very little English but can read and understand it fairly well. My  Russian is extremely basic but improving.  We began to write in English and though short in length the letter began to become much more clear in that she was able to say what she wanted with out the though someone else had to read them. 

I found a translation site and wrote her a letter in Russian and it took me quite a while to learn how to get the program to say what I was actually trying to say.  Any one who ever used a translation site will know what I mean.  My dear will translate as My the Road !  LOL  Use dearest ! It will be my most dear...name.  Ok before I used the translator we had a big misunderstanding mainly on my part that had my sweet lady in tears and her brother in law sent me a letter and clarified every thing and then all was much better after that.  I thought she was still married and living with the husband because the way she wrote it in English and me not understanding the language of Ukrainia and how things are sort of written backwards from the order they come in, in English.  That was back in August which was my first arrival date and I had just started a new job and the funds fell through for my trip because I needed to move and have some serious emergency dental work done.  ( I broke a couple teeth and had to have crowns and a root canal.  When it was all done close to 5g which I had set aside for my trip.  Any way after the fall out I had to find a better way and now we are back to the terp program.  Not only was she impressed but when she could write to me in Russian she could really express her ideas in a normal fashion.  It made it harder on me but much easier for her. I write in Russian to her and immediately under the sentence I past what I actually wrote in English.  That helps me as much as her.  Her letters how ever at first are tough because of the interpretation such as soul often becomes shower and cry often is shout.  After sometime I have learned what words to use to say specifically what I want to say. I never forget the first few time I got a letter that Said,"my the road..my name.  I was like what does that mean !  Now I am pretty much a master at the terp program on line.

Now I venture into open water where the vets here are going to sink my boat but, hey it life so be as you wish, I am a big boy ! Just don't be to hasty to judge through jaded eyes and tons of experience and watching guys like me crash and burn !  Even at first when the words were not so clear I knew what she was trying to say to me.  She would tell me it was amazing that I could understand what she was saying and that I could articulate my thoughts into Russian so well.  Well at first it sometime took me 4 hours to write a single letter with English captions !   Pay the agency guys, really, I am just one of those who is into the whole scheme of things and I will lose the sleep to learn something new.  I do not in any way suggest this to any one.  With the average woman I think you would not make it this far.  My lady is exceptional and breaks all the norms from descriptions I have heard and read. NO she has never asked for a penny and in fact would not even discuss money with me and even now I have to beat her to get her to talk about it. She says you save money and come to me !  I sent her 100 for Christmas and it blew her mind and come to find out she was very much in need of it !  I know I can read between the lines.  Like I said I know what she was saying with out her actually saying it.  It is as if I know her already.  Let us not get ahead of the story here.  Sorry.  Shortly after we make contact she asks for my Address(postal) Two weeks later I get a short but sweet letter and a few photos of her.  Real photos like we take of our families.  Each one has a hand written description on back, such as me in my flat. Basic.

[KenC]

Lion,

Welcome.  I don't see where you really asked any questions, so I will just offer my comments.  If I understand your post correctly, you have been writing letters for over two years and have yet to travel to the fsu?  Man, you talk about over preperation!:shock:  You cannot even begin to understand this process until you get your butt over there!

I am glad to see you are finally making the move to go.

I can't believe she would be interested in me not that I look bad just as far as looks she could pick and choose I think. 

Stranger things have happened.  I am closing in on anniversary number 8 to a woman that I felt the same as you stated.  You will never know until you go meet her.  Quit procrastinating and write her back.  Be open and honest and tell her your trip is imminent.  Best of luck to you.

KenC

[Knight Lion]

Very soon after I begin to use the terp program we begin to talk in ICQ and then by phone.  I must say this has been a wonderful learning experience and if I did not believe in fate then I do now but also this is life so I am prepared to crash and burn but I don't think this will go there.  Yes we have had some bad miscommunication but after the first one in August we met in ICQ and we made a promise to each other.  We agreed that we would not become angry or have any hurt feelings until we were very positive that we were clear entirely on what was being said.  Each time we have a communication break down one of us reminds the other of this promise and it has become a very strong bond between us. I would recommend this to any who have a lady that appears to be as serious about you as you are about her.  You better be serious though.  I think to many guys give us a bad name over there already which is one of our major battles.  I read here that we created our own monster and it is we who must slay it !  Let it begin with you, if you are new and reading this ! Don't be like some I read and tell me all about your sex drive, it tells me what your all about not that sex in not part of a relationship, its just not the biggest or best part.  It is however very good if reciprocated in the proper degree and manner ! 

Now this is going to bring out all the vets in a flurry and and the logical skeptics like flies to a turd but I am going to say it !  FATE ??  DESTINY ??  I believe and she does to because of so many things that have come to pass and I smell the vets red flags flying but that s ok !  It has been months now, over 7 that we talk in ICQ and what happens is we write the same things at the same time.  Sometimes several times in a conversation.  Remember I am translating and even in English it happens. Her message comes up and then mine in a flash second and they read identical idea or themes, be they questions or answers or just plain small talk.  She says to me you read my ideas which has become a catch phrase for us as she also does this for me. This is a constant in our talks even in phone calls which are very difficult but consist mostly of laughter and enplaning the meaning of something, or teaching a new word or phrase.  This is backed up by IM chat for instant clarification !  Translate Please !  I have never heard such a sweet phrase in all my life !  I f we get married I bet it will be the last vow in the list !

In the end of February I sent her my first letter. Tonight I try to get her to talk to me about money and she dodges the question every time, so I don't push the issue.  I told her I would send her money last week before I went out of town to work.  On the phone I tell her and IM was not working so we were totally on our own on the phone and it went exceptionally well.  She refused the conversation and the money and at last I just said I send you some money OK. Het Het some other things I not understand, she talks to fast.  Finally I say I am send so just say DA ! Then we both laugh and thats the end of it. I don't say how much she did not ask.  They are a proud people.  She has sent several postal with photos and I know the deal over there and how they pay and I do know her salary and she has a child and dead beat dad !  I think I should at least help her pay for some of this communication with me wheather she asks or not !  It is the right thing to do for me.  Like I said a Christmas her internet had been cut off but she had to wait to get paid and get through the holidays and everything else in life. She did not tell me until she got the money for Christmas that it was off and it was the first thing she did was get it back on before she even went home.  I wondered why she had not replied to my letters yet.  That was not her norm. Then I put it all together. I called her and you could hear the relief in her voice and the happiness that she could contact me again. Believe it or not I can feel her words and she says she does the same with me.  I believe it because I live it and I see the letter and understand how difficult it is to comprehend another language that you have no practise in and very basic skills.  OK  Slam ME !  lol 

When I told her today the would be money and on the phone she becomes coy like she knows she will insult me if she refuses and she appreciates it but is to proud to ask and she does not want me to think that is what she wants.  Yes we have discusses scammers and poodles and anything else you can think of. I have talked to her sister in Chicago and her husband.  This lady is in no way a stranger to me !

We both believe we want to be together and be married.  We do have enough sense to know we have to meet and spend time together and take it from there and there are many details I have left out because this is very long any way.  I am condensing nearly a year hear so to be to hard.  May I just write this because one day she wants me to write it all in a book for the kids and the grand kids, so obviously she thinks on the same page as I do.  Now we just have to meet and be sure and meet some more, Da !   LOL  Honestly if someone told me this, 2 years ago, I would say you are crazy ! It is also something we agree on we must be crazy ! LOL  It amazes me we can understand each other so well and not speak the same language.  She says to me tonight, you know me better than I know my self.  I tell her something she does not like and she has never told it to me but I know it already.  This is how we are and I have every indication that in person it will magnify tremendously. I think I am a very lucky man !  If it works out or not I owe kevin at KG for a great education and insight into a new world.  I think it will all be fine. 

[Knight Lion]

Thanks Ken !  It has only been a year in this march that I have been writing. I planned to go last August but I was still writing my story when you replied.  I hope you can make sense of it all. Now I shall try to sum up the best I can.

 I planned to arrive once again in Kherson at the end of December and spend the New Year and begin a new life with this wonderfully beautiful and intense spirit of a woman. I am now 41 and she is 27 which at first was a major problem for me and still I get hung up on it but we do not even discuss it anymore.  She did the best she could to ease my mind and I don't trouble her with it any more since it apparently is my hang up and not hers.  I need to deal with it !  Any way I buy my ticket and cancel the next day !  I learn my father has made some reckless financial things and my mother need my help and that my father has tons of medical problems no one even knew about(including him) Cancer as well as Alheimers and I am still finding out things 2 months later.  The financial things I hear gotten under control, power of attorney for mom and so many things all at once.  Any way My Lady is really dieing to have me there and when I break the news to her, you would have thought I killed her.  It took her over a month to get back on her feet but I tell you the truth it made us much more closer.  It took a week tor her to get her composure.  She would cry every time we talked.  Man I have never felt so bad in my entire life.  I felt what she was feeling.  I am not kidding !   I promise you it made us bond in a way I would say is impossible but it happened.  I hear it in her voice when we start to say good bye on the phone.  She fights the tears so I will not hear it but I know it.  Before her voice changes I get this rush like a tidal wave over my body right after i say its time to go.  Then she will get very quiet and the laughing stops and it becomes very intimate and heart felt on both ends.  Yes, I know you are wondering, we do say we love each other !  All I can say is if it does not work out between us, I have a new best friend fro life and I know she will say the same but first she will tell you I want more than this with this man !  Like I always tell my daughter, you have to want it first before you can get it !  Does not matter what it is, you have to want it first to find the drive to go after it !  We would say perhaps, it is the AMERICAN DREAM, just to DREAM but more to Make the DREAM REAL !   I hope I will be hear to learn and share some of my world with you all and Thank GOD for Kevin.  I know there are others as good but he is doing all he can and thanks to you all for sharing in what ever form it is you choose to do so.  I have a tendency to look for the good in all things.  I tell my lady if it does not kill us then let it make us stronger.  I hope that I will be right.

[Photo Guy]

[color="navy"][size="3"]A year is way too long. When are you going to visit her?[/size][/color][/b]

[Knight Lion]

If things go well we will have the anniversary together but I will not tell her because so far every time I have something disasterous has happened !  I think surprise needs to be on my side this time around !  I will tell it to her two weeks before I leave I think.  Then I will cross my fingers and call the church and ask for so prayer !  )

[Voyageur]

Knight Lion, you did not ask for any advise, but since you are posting in the newbie section, I guess that this asking is somewhat implied...

I agree with Photoguy and KenC, that you should do her and yourself a favor and get over there as quickly as possible. I have personally written to women and had a seemingly great connection - just to have many, many months of intense correspondance go down the drain minutes after our first meeting. Of course, I had the other occurance happen also, with my RW. We had a very wonderful letter writing time of about two months before I first saw her.  Chemistry is everything, IMHO.  Also, you can't understand a FSU woman entirely unless you have experienced first hand their culture and their country's ways.  It is very important.

If you can't afford to go over to Ukraine one time in two years, you may want to consider if you have the financial wherewithall to continue this. If I made any "unexpected" miscalculation over the years I have been involved with this, it is just how expensive this type of pursuit is....from going to the FSU to the real expense of bringing (and more importantly keeping her happy) in the US.

I really wish the best of luck to you.  Everyone's story is different, everyone has found a different way. I believe that most people on this site are sincerely trying to help others, as they were helped along their way.

[jb]

Knight Lion,

Welcome to the board.

I'm going to have to agree with what's already been said, so far you are what we call a "keyboard romeo", one who will write forever and never gets on a plane.  

You need to change that.  No woman, no matter how much attracted she may be to you, will wait indefinitely for her "knight" to come riding up.  If you truly have strong feelings for this woman you need to hop on a jet and go see her.  Understand, however, that there is also a strong possibility that once the face-to-face meeting occurs, reality may not live up to fantasy.  That's just the nature of the game.

Good luck to you.

[KenC]

Knight Lion,

No matter how much you gush about the two of you being soulmates, you two still only have a fantasy relationship at this point.  Until you spend some face time, you have no idea how you will actually mesh in the flesh.

After my divorce, I turned to the Net to meet women for dating.  They were all rather local at first.  I then "met" a woman on line from a different state.  Things were great.  She looked hot in her photos and we couldn't have got along any better than in our emails or phone calls.  After some months, I decided to jump on a plane for a weekend visit.  I was full of hope and excitement as I left the plane to finally meet her.  I was dead sure this was going to be a weekend for us to remember.  How could all those emails and phone calls be wrong?  That feeling of euphoria lasted about a nanosecond after we met face to face.  What I could tell instantly in person (that eluded me in all those emails and hours of phone conversations) was that she was all wrong for me.  Thirty seconds of face time is worth an infinate amount of emails.

When a "virtual relationship" goes on for as long as yours has, you run the probable risk that it has turned into a fantasy for the both of you.  At this point there probably is no chance for either of you to live up to the fantasies that your own minds have created.  Good luck.

KenC

 

[Todd]

As for the age thing, I wouldn't worry about it.  My wife is 25 and I am 38, and I don't think it ever comes up. 

[TigerPaws]

[color="#0000ff"][size="4"]Knight Lion,[/size][/color]    [color="#0000ff"][size="4"]

 You can make excuses and find  reasons forever, you do not need a visa for the Ukraine and with a little  looking you can find reasonable airline transport, apartments are inexpensive so  the only thing holding you back is yourself. You say August? Why not February,  he who hesitates will be lost, the only way you will ever know about yourself or  this lady is by meeting her and there is no time like now.[/size][/color]

[Vaughn]

Knight,

  I have to agree that the physical meeting must happen before you can stake any claims. I also agree with TigerPaws that August is too far off, at least for my taste. You've been at this awhile, it's time to book a reservation.

  I don't often hear of FSU ladies sending men letters by post, with photos, no less - an indicator of sincerity with a hint of ambition. There's a wealth of Ukraine experience among the members here for making your travel plans.

  Welcome to RWD.

Vaughn

 

 

[Knight Lion]

Thanks all and it was really late when I wrote all that and I whole heartedly agree with all that is said with the exception of the keyboard ROMEO !  LOL  Actually I love the statement but honestly it does not apply.  Sorry if I appear as such.  I will be going soon to Ukraine and I have heard lots say they crashed after such great letters and phone sex, I mean calls !  I hope you have some humor here.  Life is to short not too. I could not leave with the chance that I would return to find my 84yr old mom and 86yr old dad out in the street.  Dad always handled the finances and mom is having to learn how now.  Dad got scammed on allot of cash and I as well am legally trying to pursue this.  Long to short, here is an example.  Tonight my dad says, every farmer had slaves until Martin Luther King came along.  Now imagine this guy running your finances and getting mail that says you can receive 250,000 if you just send us 1 grand !  Damn ! Lets not even go there.  Its out of his hands now and it took me the better of two months just in Finances, not even on medical stuff !  I had to consolidate several loans, refinance and then throw about 30g at the problem to get it all safe and secure.  With the 4+g's on the teeth, it has been a bit of a blow.  Believe me I understand the sentiments and agree 100% We both talk about this and realize it could happen but we at the moment will agree to believe and when we meet and spend 2 or 3 weeks together then we will decide which direction we want to go.  Honestly I believe we will get married and have kids.  Not immediately, DUHH!! Just a year or two after we are wed, I would personally prefer 3. 

[Ste]

I agree with KenC and TP.

1. She's a Penfriend at the moment

2. Forget the soulmate 'connected souls' guff - it's for Teen Angst boys not a guy in his fifth decade.

3. To communicate with this woman you need a common language not 'feelings' or 'spiritual connections'

4. Don't force money on her

5. Be prepared for some fun and games re: the child and it's K-2 visa. Permission needed from Father, etc...

6. Go to Ukraine even for a few days. OK it will cost a lot for a short trip but that way you can either carry on with a proper relationship or can it completely if there is no chemistry.

7. Just do it! Who knows what this girl is doing about her situation. You might not be the only iron in the fire, especally if she with one agency, she's probably with a few....

Act now!

Ste

[Bruno]

Internet "loving" relation without wish to make it real... it is how i see the situation now.

[Photo Guy]

[size="3"][color="navy"]You spent $30k on local problems. Meeting her would only require 2k or so. You may be soulmates. I don't know. If you are, then she should be worth the 2k. If that's too much cash, you made a big mistake fishing in the wrong pond. [/color][/size][/b]

[KenC]

Knight Lion,

There is another posibility that hasn't been mentioned here yet:  Maybe you cannot afford (money & time) what is necessary for this process.  I mean, look if you have not be able to coordinate a single trip in the last two years, how are you ever going to accomplish what is necessary in the future? 

Almost anyone with experience will tell you that one trip surely will not accomplish everything necessary.  So, you have at least two trips to consider.  And then the real fun begins.  All the documentation necessary takes a lot of time to complete as well as more money.  Then the relocation of your future bride and her child will not be cheap.  And once they arrive, the true burden of time and money will be upon you.  Your dental expenditure will seem like chump change then.

If you have not found your way clear to even afford a visit in tha last two years, how will you ever be able to do the things necessary in the future?  And if you are not prepared to finish what you have already started, quit misleading this poor girl and be honest with her (and yourself).

KenC

[Bruno]

If you have not found your way clear to even afford a visit in tha last two years, how will you ever be able to do the things necessary in the future? 

If i have good understand, it will be one year in March... so, not yet 2 year...

I can understandt previous financial problem... this happen... but since these problem are from the past, why he don't plan a meeting in the next two month, when trip are very cheap... he wish wait augustus, periode where trip and stay are two time more expensive minimum...

Invest in a early trip is not only good for the relation but for his wallet too.

 

 

[KenC]

Bruno,

You actually made a good point!  :hairraising:And without Google, no less.  Lion would save a lot of money by going in the off season as apposed to high season in August.  And you are also correct that he began writing to this particular woman in March of last year.  But he did say he intially started looking for a RW 5 years ago.  I guess he doesn't like to rush things.:noidea:

KenC

[Knight Lion]

WOW, OK !  I just chunked out 30k in the last couple months and all this stuff with my parents is coming to a close.  Did you guys read what I wrote ?  Not sure where forcing money on her came from but I would not do that !  I plan to go in march and I figured I can do the whole thing on a descent budget of 2.5 to 3.5k.  She will get me a flat and make arrangements.  I was going to use Kevins apartments but they are fast being taken and 3 weeks with that will at least double my budget.  She can get me a flat for like 300 a month even if I stay only two weeks but if I can get my work to agree I will take three.  You know there once was a time in America when people could dream and pushed through all obstacles to make it become real and it was a heck of a lot harder then than it is now.  Man, honestly with some of the replies I have seen we all would still be burning candles and saying, ahh that light bulb that just takes way to long to get all the infra structure in place and those wires are just a fire waiting to happen.  I am very realistic, why do you think I studied this for so long before I made a move.  I throughly believe good things come to those with patience and the backbone to stand in the face of adversity and allot of us died with that attitude so the rest of us could be as we are today.  I am not knocking any of you and I do agree with what you have said but a soul mate(per sey ) will connect with you on all levels.

Я знаю, ты меня можешь понимать как ни кто другой.
I know, you me can understand as who another.

It says you understand me like no other is what is meant.


Я всегда это знала, но иногда ты меня поражаешь своими мыслями о
которых я тебе говорила вчера, что ты просто читаешь мои мысли.
I always knew it, but sometimes you amaze me the ideas about
Which I spoke you yesterday, that you simply read my ideas.


My lady and I discuss the real world and the fantasy world and all the dreams and hardships of life in-between.  We now have to meet and we know this.  Also we know it is a possibility that we may not like each other but we as well both believe it is highly improbable but still possible. We know also that we share many commonalities in the truly meaningful attitudes that dictate life and love.

As for her child, she has been to a friend thats a judge and a lawyer and all is prepared and signed for the father to give up parental rights !  You know what he wanted.  To get out of the 25a month child support (Alimony ) and the few months he is behind.  He did not give a damn about the child and has not seen the cub in over a year.  Bye the way her Brother is a lawyer and she also spent a year in America with her sister.  Her English just needs some practice. 

I am however glad to hear all this advice.  It simply tells me I have been on the right path and done all that I can to not become a victim.  I respect and appreciate any and all comments and hope that any more insight that you have will be frankly given.  If nothing else it is food for thought and gives me the opportunity to look at it from someone else's shoes !  )   A year is way to long.  Did we break some kind of norm, is there a time limit on love, must we rush in headlong like pioneering Americans or perhaps we might just be settlers and blend into the native tribe with out killing them for a change !  Damn I am cold !  I too can be cynical !

[Photo Guy]

[size="3"][color="navy"]It just looks like a contradiction to say you've found your soulmate and then to postpone meeting her in person. Can you understand that point of view? Most people would react this way:
[color="blue"]Wow! I have discovered an amazing woman! I must visit her pronto, before she gets distracted or discouraged![/color]

Most people would NOT react this way:
[color="darkred"]Wow! I have found my true soulmate! Let's see...Maybe I can arrange to visit her in 6 months...We'll see if conditions are right.[/color]

Of course, you are not the average typical guy, so maybe there is a different way of viewing it from your angle, but this is how it looks to many guys here.  ...Hey, maybe I'm wrong.[/color][/size][/b]

[Knight Lion]

Thanks to everyone and I will try to clarify some misconceptions.  First I have been at  KG for right at a year, I believe.  I was at some dating site 5 years ago and over a couple years I looked into the Russian Bride Theme with no success of meeting any one real.  Gave up a couple years and dated locally and had a gnawing urge to pursue the Russian Family Ideal yet again but I ws determined to find a reputable agency that I could see with my own eyes !  Hence the web cam search. 

I did not postpone my trip for reluctance or convenience.  My 80+ age parents in their shall we call it ( Elder Infancy ) took care of me when I was not able to take care of myself, I was their child.  Now I could have left the country to seek my soul mate to return and find them in the street, if you read that post, it is self explanatory I think.  My dad has Alzheimer's or something similar mom never delt with more than budgeting the grocery bill and now has to take on the world.  Honestly I could not respect myself if I left at their time of need and I don't think my later would respect me much either.  In fact we just discussed this topic of family and working together and giving to the family even if you had to do without.  It took a couple very long letters and a few hours in IM but I know her well enough to know she would have no respect for me if I had come when my parents were in need of my help in the direst of circumstances.  Which again for me reiterate that she shares and hold true to the type of values I desire most in a life partner.  Now all the parent stuff is closing and I don't have to worry so now I just need to make arraignments at work and scratch a little funds together and go, which I entirely plan to do.  Has life never thrown you guys a curve ?  Man 6 years ago I was flooded and lost everything but my daughter and the cloths on our back.  I had to fully rebuild her life before I ever considered my needs.  Now it has become my turn. I raised this child alone since she was two, which was pretty uncommon at the time.  No I am in no way the typical male !  Of that you can be sure !!!  I do things methodically.  I will risk my heart and life but I am not willing to put my lady on the line.  I want her and I both to be sure we think and feel the same on issues that are the most important.  Like I said my postponement drew us ever closer.  It again reiterated her ethics, morals and the caliber of lady in which I was looking at spending the rest of my life with.  Adversity will inevitably breed strength and character.  I think Ukrainian women are just such an example ! Integrity, honor, ethics, values and family ties that bind.  Then we have intelligence, beauty, charm, eloquence, well grounded attitudes and just damn good people ! 

[Oosik]

You know how Western Women start to worry about their biological clock when they are in their 30's?

UW worry about this when they are in their 20's. Because they want to use their youth to get the man to get the kid.

Go see her, even if just for 7 days with your feet on the ground in her town. It isn't like US dating. You know enough about each other that all you need now is chemistry. Go see if the chemistry happens. If she can take time off to spend 6 or more hours per day with you, you will be able to get in over a month's worth of dating in no time. Also, if she is a good, decent person, it would be normal for things to really get deep and solid fast if that chemistry turns into love. In my opinion (based on small samle size), when a R/UW loves you, she has finished with the games, she is yours, you know it, and she will make you understand that you are her world.


Otherwise, she could meet a man sooner, and as much as she likes you, women the world over understand "bird in the hand vs. 2 in the bush". If someone comes along that she thinks would make a good husband and father, you could be out. That doesn't mean she isn't sincere about you, it just means until you show up you are nothing but a dream or an unfulfilled promise.

[Voyageur]

Knight Lion,

Don't get upset with all the advise you have received here, from well-meaning people.  It is impossible for all details of your relationship and life to be known and everyone has an opinion, and newbies asking for advise are relatively infrequent posters here (IMHO). Each way is unique, although usually following a path of increased personal interaction.  What is unique in your way is the lenght of time that you have not seen your UW. It sounds like you have a plan and are doing all you can to see her. I wish you the best.