Why do u look for a wife abroad?

[Oosik]

By the way, saying that morality is relative, or that no one has higher morality than another is in itself a moral judgement call. When people train themselves to ignore their natural instinct to weigh things in moral terms, we become an immoral, self-indulgent society.

BTW - there is a difference between exercising a position of moral superiority - and recognizing when someone else is expressing one.

I pointed out that your statement represented a value judgment. As such, you are holding yourself up to be morally superior to another.

Are you prepared to state that YOU are in some way superior to Albert?

- Dan[/quote]

I am saying that my interest in FSU women is more moral. I am interested in marriage. That is a higher calling than mere "rutting". A guy who says he was married for 30 years (tell me if I got that wrong) and has now banged 40+ FSU women and thinks it is all about economics probably has a less moral purpose than I. Persuing multiple women for sexual gratification, even if you justify it by saying the girl gets something out of it, is a very base level of morality.

We make value judgements all the time. If you go through life avoiding value judgements, that in itself is making a value judgement. One cannot make a logical argument against value judgements, because of this circular logic.

Let's take an extreme case. The American Psychological Association recently decided to call child molestation "adult-child sex" because they wanted a value-neutral term. One can scoff, and say "but that's a ridiculous case". If you don't believe in value judgements, then you MUST support the APA point of view.  If the logic doesn't hold for an extreme case, it cannot hold for a close call either. In math, you usually prove or disprove a theorum at the extremes.

Which brings us back to value judgements. They are a matter of opinion. But it is not wrong by definition (as some would say) to evaluate the world according to your morality. And any of you with daughters, would you say the young man interested in marrying your daughter is more or less moral than the man who wants to make her into quick-lay  #41, and thinks she is such a whore that she does it for some economic gain?

[BillyB]

 For the guys who have issues with the English language and the way people write it should read this. English has always been a difficult language to grasp but there have been efforts from governments to make an easy universal language. Be patient, it will happen soon enough. Take a look at this article out of Brussels, Belgium:

     European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20 persent shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

[Muj]

[user=527]al-c[/user] wrote:

As compared to AW, the RW are more femnine without being weak, they are more family oriented without being isolationists from the world, and they are stylish without being impractical.  In other words, they are better women.

Sure there are problems, such as cultural differences.  But I don't see the problems as problems.  I see them as challenges to be overcome and at the same time an opportunity to learn about a very different culture and expand my own horizons.

 

al-c,

I'm not arab but agree to your perception of RW with respect to UW.  Many other good reasons also.

[Rim]

A guy who says he was married for 30 years (tell me if I got that wrong) and has now banged 40+ FSU women...

I don't feel sorry for the women he has "banged" because they are adults and have made the choice to have sex with someone they don't know very well. I feel more sorry for the women he didn't bang and who's time he wasted while lying to try to get down her pants, but that's the way of the world when you have two different sexes and billions of years of evolution telling men they need to do whatever it takes to copulate with as many women as possible.

If your morals take you along a more Biblical than evolutionary route, then you might want to take a look at one of God's most favorite people, David...

 

[Rim]

Fiancee,

While I didn't look exclusively to find a RW... I didn't exclude the posibilities either. 

Me too.

If I'd have found my "other half" in America I would have been just as happy.

[TigerPaws]

[size="3"]Fiancee,[/size]

[size="3"]While I didn't look exclusively to find a RW... I didn't exclude the posibilities either.  [/size]

Me too.

If I'd have found my "other half" in America I would have been just as happy.

[color="blue"][size="4"] In the last 8 years I have not met an AW I would consider worth my time, after tasting what Russian Women are like going back is now impossible.[/size][/color]
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[Zhena]

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

[Zhena]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

I said it to Bruce. Dont stuck on such unimportant things. You risking to pass over something important then;)

[Zhena]

Alberts post made me smile:)But I appreciate his honesty. Though,albert,dont say that is a reason for ALL. Yes,can you imagine,I cant find a free man here who will suit to my standards! Of course I dont look actively-just home and work,and meeting friends sometimes. But I dont think that meeting in the bars is a good idea.

[Zhena]

So dont say that here are alot of free men-I know better I suppose:D I am not 20,a little older,and alot of married men around.

[Goldtop]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.

[Zhena]

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.[/quote]You bribed her by your attitude I bet-so continue to do this;)

[Goldtop]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.

You bribed her by your attitude I bet-so continue to do this;)[/quote]It wasn't a bribe -  no money involved. I appealed to her Big Russian Soul because I have a  Bigger American Soul.

[Zhena]

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.[/quote]You bribed her by your attitude I bet-so continue to do this;)[/quote]It wasn't a bribe -  no money involved. I appealed to her Big Russian Soul because I have a  Bigger American Soul.[/quote]Hehe-I didnt mean a money:D You bribed by attitude as I said...possible.

[Goldtop]

Yes and all I'm saying is I swept her off her feet with romance and nothing more.  

[Zhena]

Yes and all I'm saying is I swept her off her feet with romance and nothing more.  

Ouch....yeah. You found a good woman then ...who needs some love.

[Rim]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

Be careful-you going to be boring;)

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.

You bribed her by your attitude I bet-so continue to do this;)[/quote]
Goldtop,

She gave you a compliment and then you proceeded to beat her up for it. :?

[Goldtop]

fiancée - my apologies if I sounded rude. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to make it clear "bribe" in the usual context was not part of the deal. I went to the other extreme to explain I was only an average in terms of material wealth. And was very careful not to set any expectation I couldn't meet. On the other hand, I was confident in who I was and what I was doing.

[Turboguy]

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.

Many people say what they think people want to hear.   You probably tell them that you are interested in an FSU woman because the American women are not marriage and family oriented and a lot of other garbage when the real truth is you have a good shot at getting an FSU woman that is a lot prettier, sexier and hotter than you can get here.   Now isn't what I just said the real reason you look there and have you ever told an FSU woman that?  

[catzenmouse]

Many people say what they think people want to hear.   You probably tell them that you are interested in an FSU woman because the American women are not marriage and family oriented and a lot of other garbage when the real truth is you have a good shot at getting an FSU woman that is a lot prettier (TRUE), sexier (TRUE) and hotter (TRUE) than you can get here.   Now isn't what I just said the real reason you look there and have you ever told an FSU woman that?  

AND.... she is not all feminazi f'd up either!

Ken

[START2]

Many people say what they think people want to hear.   You probably tell them that you are interested in an FSU woman because the American women are not marriage and family oriented and a lot of other garbage when the real truth is you have a good shot at getting an FSU woman that is a lot prettier (TRUE), sexier (TRUE) and hotter (TRUE) than you can get here.   Now isn't what I just said the real reason you look there and have you ever told an FSU woman that?  

AND.... she is not all feminazi f'd up either!

Ken
[/quote] I sure second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TigerPaws]

You probably tell them that you are interested in an FSU woman because the [color="red"]American women are not marriage and family oriented[/color] and a lot of other garbage when the real [color="red"]truth is you have a good shot at getting an FSU woman that is a lot prettier, sexier and hotter than you can get here.[/color] 

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AND.... she is not all feminazi f'd up either!

[color="blue"][size="4"] And now we know the REAL reason we look to the FSU for our ladies.[/size][/color]
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[Goldtop]

 Maybe I will. But so far the RW I'm going to marry says she dreamed of meeting someone like me:D So for now I'll have to assume those other Russian fellows didn't measure up.

Many people say what they think people want to hear.   You probably tell them that you are interested in an FSU woman because the American women are not marriage and family oriented and a lot of other garbage when the real truth is you have a good shot at getting an FSU woman that is a lot prettier, sexier and hotter than you can get here.   Now isn't what I just said the real reason you look there and have you ever told an FSU woman that?  [/quote]Sure there are all sorts of reasons we do what we do. And those you mentioned are true. But I would like to make another point. I don't want this to sound cocky because I am not. But I feel we have equity in our relationship. I am no more impressed with her (looks, personality ect) than she is with me. If it were not that way I would not want to marry her.

[Turboguy]

Sure there are all sorts of reasons we do what we do. And those you mentioned are true. But I would like to make another point. I don't want this to sound cocky because I am not. But I feel we have equity in our relationship. I am no more impressed with her (looks, personality ect) than she is with me. If it were not that way I would not want to marry her.

More power too you Goldtop.   I have some gals I write to where we have equity in our looks and personality but those never seem to be the ones I want to marry.   I think a lot of us would be a lot less interested if we couldn't get something there we can't have here.

[Zhena]

Sure there are all sorts of reasons we do what we do. And those you mentioned are true. But I would like to make another point. I don't want this to sound cocky because I am not. But I feel we have equity in our relationship. I am no more impressed with her (looks, personality ect) than she is with me. If it were not that way I would not want to marry her.

More power too you Goldtop.   I have some gals I write to where we have equity in our looks and personality but those never seem to be the ones I want to marry.   I think a lot of us would be a lot less interested if we couldn't get something there we can't have here.[/quote]Theoretically,you can get anyone and everywhere. Just maybe will take a lot of time to look...