Operation White Panther

[Patagonie]

non monsier non

I married my wife, because I discovered she had those 4 qualities....
I didn't marry her, and then discover she had them...

before then, I endured what you had endured
entitled selfish women who were not fit to have a relationship with, the kind who always ended their relationships in divorce
before I met my wife, I thought this kind of strife was normal and unavoidable with women
 
that's cuz we get brain washed into accepting it
thinking we have no choice

I think you must have some kinda predjudice against village girls
I have a preference

I always liked the outdoorsy, "nature girls" over ultra-femminine "Barbies"

you have some kinda idee fixee which I think is wrong
you've over analyzed and made complicated
what intuitively is a simple problem
because you don't want to accept the outcome yur intuition feels

oui...
I understand the nuances of time

but I also understand how to win games of chance, by improving my odds
as Alan Turing said, "I'm really very good at solving puzzles"

instead of freeing yurself, you have trapped yurself in yur own desires and fixations
you are like the little mouse, stuck in the glue trap, you can't move...

honestly, I don't know why ya wanna do that to yurself

the rest of us, who have survived!
did follow the path, of bringing a woman to us
and found someone suitable for that purpose

yur goal is ambiguous and full of uncertainties and contradictions
and ya wonder why it ain't workin? well.....

only the superficial details change
the part that is essential NEVER changes

as your age climbs, so to does the age of the women you seek
in certain demographics yur current age is an advantage, cuz less available alternative competition
all is relative regardless of yur age, it's just another parameter

I'd jump on a 40 yr old Elizabeth Hurley look-alike faster than a Mantis on a fly
for me, much better her bein a country girl, compared to a city dweller
cuz she can take care of the chickens and NOT me

if you don't invest in yur future
don't expect to receive the dividend

 
So Krim you have been very clear-sighted in your choice, congrats 
I don't have anything against village girls at all. Just living in a village is not my stuff. 
I spent time in such village kind of. I had a beautiful story of two years when I was 27 with a woman of a little little city. That was a very good time. My first girlfriend was a "village girl" in France. 

[Patagonie]

Pat, you are right.

My procedures of only contacting and communicating via email would not work today.
Maybe I should just shut up on here.

Thank you for your honesty. 
But don't leave us 

[krimster2]

"Village" is a generic word
I met my village girl in Kyiv, which is hardly a village
South of Kyiv has enormous blocks of apartments filled with single working women
lines of em goin to/from work and shopping
easy peasy to give 'em a ride, etc
you know in 3 minutes of random conversation, how they're gonna respond to ya

nothing beats the thrill you get from that response
cuz yur gonna 'kick it up a notch'

things have changed?
Tik Tok instead of eHarmony
SMS texts have been around for decades
I first used Skype with a VGA webcam over 20 years ago

look at at all the changes in firearm technology over the last two centuries
yet, hunting remains essentially unchanged

trying to "filter" women online who respond to you...is NOT the shining path
cuz modem dating and the like is a virtual substitute
and not REAL REALITY

NOTHING...and I mean NOTHING...beats "Boots on the ground"
first responder in search of responses
the lips may tell lies, but the eyes NEVER DO
I always looked 'em straight in the eye...and smiled...
the ones who immediately, enthusiastically smiled back, without inhibition or hesitation
they were my huckleberry
I KNEW IT right away

the REALLY smart thing is to combine "hunting" with something else that can make ya some of them EUROS combined into a multi-purpose expedition to a foreign hunting spot

one of my neighbors used to go to Kreuger Park in South Africa every year to hunt big game
same deal...ya wanna tropy? go where there are trophys to be had

yur trying to get a woman ya don't know to go live with ya in a place you can't yet specify
and I don't know about that
sounds a bit "unstructured"
yur not "converging" yur "diverging"

I thought the same thing you did, each and every time I left the USA
and here I sit today in TrumpLand

if you think France is phuqued up, try looking at the rest of the world
that's what I discovered living in other places
and America...OMG...is really phuqued NOW!!!

it's the SPECIES that's phuqued up, and not the planet's geography
so EVERYWHERE with people is phuqued up

[olgac]

I think I know what Krimster means by village girl
He simply means physically fit, outdoorsy girl not high maintenance.
I too was like that when we met. My husband and I did rock climbing, trekking in Nepal, backpacking etc.
And I was never into designer clothes, bags, etc.
We still very much enjoy outdoor adventures and working on our garden, etc.

PS: we used MSN Messenger back in late 90s

[krimster2]

yes!!!
that's my term...maybe a "TomBoy" is an English equivalent
but the Russian version, is a bit different from an English/American TomBoy
what it implies is that it's someone 'easier for dewds to get along with" cuz they're not some rabid stuck-up fem-nazi bitch
mainly because they've had a tough life
also, these women are amazingly fit, they walk everywhere, OMG...the 'glutes' the long slender muscular legs
so much to PERV over


instead of a Barbie who yells at ya for this or that transgression, like she's yur 5th grade teacher
she's someone who is into some of the same stuff you are...so you both can relate through that shared interest
it's more 'equalizing'
and then later. you have sex together...is that SO WRONG?
am I bad person now?

wait a minute...
are you guys tellin me, you never "made a deal" with one of yur long time female friends
for them to "teach you" oral sex?
in exchange for practicing on them....

WTF? seriously?

[Patagonie]

yes!!!
that's my term...maybe a "TomBoy" is an English equivalent
but the Russian version, is a bit different from an English/American TomBoy
what it implies is that it's someone 'easier for dewds to get along with" cuz they're not some rabid stuck-up fem-nazi bitch
mainly because they've had a tough life
also, these women are amazingly fit, they walk everywhere, OMG...the 'glutes' the long slender muscular legs
so much to PERV over


instead of a Barbie who yells at ya for this or that transgression
she's someone who is into some of the same stuff you are...so you both can relate through that shared interest
and then later. you have sex together...is that SO WRONG?
am I bad person now?

You are not a bad person, who says that?
We gonna to figure out during this travel if we are into the same kind of stuff, if you find some common interests, and so the right stuff is to have sex meanwhile of course. 

[krimster2]

c'est bon!!!

see...if she was a village girl...you could take her to Versailles...and say it's yur uncle's house...
my wife still wants us to move in there with him...

[Patagonie]

Krim quoted

"trying to "filter" women online who respond to you...is NOT the shining path
cuz modem dating and the like is a virtual substitute
and not REAL REALITY

NOTHING...and I mean NOTHING...beats "Boots on the ground"
first responder in search of responses
the lips may tell lies, but the eyes NEVER DO
I always looked 'em straight in the eye...and smiled...
the ones who immediately, enthusiastically smiled back, without inhibition or hesitation
they were my huckleberry
I KNEW IT right away"
 
I totally agree with this, the real life is the meeting. And if I keep with this story it's only and because I knew it right away that she was exactly what you have described above. I spent five hours to dig right in her eyes five hours. 
 
 yur trying to get a woman ya don't know to go live with ya in a place you can't yet specify
and I don't know about that
sounds a bit "unstructured"
yur not "converging" yur "diverging" 
 She is converging 100% during the meetings, she is diverging during the communication, and she is converging for the third meeting (vacations).
She is not gonna to live with me, I am now repeating this for a hundred of time, for the moment nobody is coming to live with me. I am gonna to move out, step by step in her country. 
 

"if you think France is phuqued up, try looking at the rest of the world
that's what I discovered living in other places
and America...OMG...is really phuqued NOW!!!" 
   
My country is month after month derailling, so moving out from there is refreshing. It doesn't mean that I want to move out permanently. I came to the conclusion the best is to share your time between two countries while you visit some others the rest of the time

[Patagonie]

I think I know what Krimster means by village girl
He simply means physically fit, outdoorsy girl not high maintenance.
I too was like that when we met. My husband and I did rock climbing, trekking in Nepal, backpacking etc.
And I was never into designer clothes, bags, etc.
We still very much enjoy outdoor adventures and working on our garden, etc.

PS: we used MSN Messenger back in late 90s

   
I am a complete multi sided man. So I can do any type of activities. 
   
So she asked me to go to the country side and to the mountains. That's mainly the program.
I included one night in the tent. Some hiking, canoe, swimming in some lakes. Electical scooter, motorbike.
We will explore also many museums, castles, churches. Wine testing. Dancing club. 
So for the moment I didn't find the urban girl who only want to visit Paris, Monaco, Cannes and aim for the most
prestigious and expansive places in France and the most expansive shops.
Don't think that you will fit a city girl in the program she has approved. 

[olgac]

 
So for the moment I didn't find the urban girl who only want to visit Paris, Monaco, Cannes and aim for the most
prestigious and expansive places in France and the most expansive shops.

Tis is very good

[krimster2]

WTF?

you gonna be like Shadow and move to Russia?
what went into making that decision?
can't all be becuz of "pooty tang"

I would not want to be wearing a foreigner's face in Russia right now
you will attract hooligans like blood attracts sharks
and after they beat ya, militsa will charge you for "promoting inter-ethnic strife"

Russia is an incredible place to visit, and an incredibly hard place to live
the biggest danger, in order to survive the hostile environment, you become Russian yurself
this is what happend to me
and I became a 'ticking time bomb' waiting to go off
becuz that's how Russians survive there

[ML]

I am gonna to move out, step by step in her country. 

Surely you don't mean this !!!

[krimster2]

if yur goal is a move to Russia...why not do that...and find a local woman after you move there...
better for you - cuz she has a local 'network'

if her ex-husband" is 'connected', you better understand what that means
becuz you can be deleted easier than a file on yur disk drive

is why ya wanna do this, one of the things ya can't talk about....
cuz yur NOT actually retired...and it's a new job assignment
I met some DGSE in Israel, nice guys

did I just blow yur cover
just cuz ya got a russian work permit, don't mean yur gonna get a GRU job
you can't!!! you can only be a consultant, with no status

[olgac]

Frankly I also don't understand at all why You want to meet a woman remotely before moving into her country.
If You are ready to move to another country with lots of women available be it Russia, Ukraine, Latin American country, Thailand, Phillipines or wherever passport bros are going these days, You can just move there and THEN look for a woman!
You will have access to lots of available women including women who are down to earth, not entitled and never looked for a
foreigner in the first place! The selection of women would be HUGE!

Also no need for a long distance relationship You can just try dating a local woman and have sex with her to see right away
if this will even work out, if there is mutual physical attraction, good sex, good company. I don't understand Your motivation at all to be honest.

[krimster2]

I feel like the story switched from one topic to another
and that there is an ENTIRE missing piece to the story

is this something ya don't wanna talk about?
cuz obviously there's a big piece you haven't told us....

WHY RUSSIA, asked the guy who fled from there?
why not North Korea or Iran?

Actual video of Pat in Moscva

[ML]

WHY RUSSIA, asked the guy who fled from there?
why not North Korea or Iran?

Good question.

Has Shadow been captured yet; is he worth trading for?

[olgac]

Good question.

Has Shadow been captured yet; is he worth trading for?

LOL

[Patagonie]

CEASE FIRECEASE FIRECEASE FIRE
 
  She is Russian,
but her country is Thailand
she spends move her time there.
 
That's the destination.

[Patagonie]

c'est bon!!!

see...if she was a village girl...you could take her to Versailles...and say it's yur uncle's house...
my wife still wants us to move in there with him...

   
 

[olgac]

CEASE FIRECEASE FIRECEASE FIRE
 
  She is Russian,
but her country is Thailand
she spends move her time there.
 
That's the destination.

Well this IS much better

[Patagonie]

if yur goal is a move to Russia...why not do that...and find a local woman after you move there...
better for you - cuz she has a local 'network'

if her ex-husband" is 'connected', you better understand what that means
becuz you can be deleted easier than a file on yur disk drive
   
is why ya wanna do this, one of the things ya can't talk about....
cuz yur NOT actually retired...and it's a new job assignment
I met some DGSE in Israel, nice guys
   
did I just blow yur cover
just cuz ya got a russian work permit, don't mean yur gonna get a GRU job
you can't!!! you can only be a consultant, with no status

         
I am pretty aware that I cannot move to this country, maybe later if the war ends
I don't want a GRU job
but you never cannot prove that you hadn't
I am used since my 7 to this type of country where the силовики could do whatever they want. 
     
I got yesterday all pages of her passport and I would consider that ex huby has good chances to be "connected"It could be a reason why she keeps me away constantly from some information, who knows? But she surely knows herself.

[Patagonie]

Frankly I also don't understand at all why You want to meet a woman remotely before moving into her country.
If You are ready to move to another country with lots of women available be it Russia, Ukraine, Latin American country, Thailand, Phillipines or wherever passport bros are going these days, You can just move there and THEN look for a woman!
You will have access to lots of available women including women who are down to earth, not entitled and never looked for a
foreigner in the first place! The selection of women would be HUGE!

Also no need for a long distance relationship You can just try dating a local woman and have sex with her to see right away
if this will even work out, if there is mutual physical attraction, good sex, good company. I don't understand Your motivation at all to be honest.

   
Olga,   
I met her in Thailand, this is where she lives. 
But what I have observed, I stayed six weeks, is that there a lot of couples and families, but few solely women.
So I didn't come to the same conclusion.   
You have now three type of Russian coming in Asia. Expats who are staying on multi entry visa or maybe residents, tourists who have a 90 days visa  and you have another specie, a little undercover, the men who have fled Russia for war reasons.
I am not interested by Philippines, Asians, Latin American women.   
And I don't think that she was aiming for a foreigner but the fact is that my ad was half in English and half in Russian.

[Patagonie]

I feel like the story switched from one topic to another
and that there is an ENTIRE missing piece to the story

is this something ya don't wanna talk about?
cuz obviously there's a big piece you haven't told us....

WHY RUSSIA, asked the guy who fled from there?
why not North Korea or Iran?

Actual video of Pat in Moscva

 

 
   
Beautiful video   
Incredible beautiful work   
Do you know that France at this time had more than a complete cavalry corps?   
In total almost 80000 people just in the cavalry.

[olgac]

oops I didn't realize You already met in Thailand, I only read last part of the thread.
I was gone for a while taking care of my dad who is dying of cancer

[Patagonie]

oops I didn't realize You already met in Thailand, I only read last part of the thread.
I was gone for a while taking care of my dad who is dying of cancer

Don't worry.
I am very sorry for you. I have gone through this way with my dad also and that was a difficult time.