Vincenzo's thread and Mamba debate

[Misha]

You can try to show your super body to her via a webcam.

You don't have to show her anything. It is clear enough to a woman, even in he is wearing a three-piece suit, whether he is fit and attractive  [/quote]

[Vincenzo]

 All things being equal, most women will prefer the handsome, young, and fit man who is  a sweet talker 

Can't she check these qualities looking at a person in the webcam window or at his photos and reading his profile?
You always say that a man shouldn't use a webcam but should fly immediately to the first real date; so, the girl could tell him if he's young and handsome enough for her.

[wicheese]

The Ukraine is like The Sahara compared to most of Russia in winter.
I was told that it hardly ever snows in Odessa.

This is true about Odessa, but you are only an overnight train and taxi ride away from the best skiing in the Ukraine (Carpathians) as I skied there in 2007 and had a pretty good time.  Also, a few historic sites with castles etc in the vicinity (if you are into that).  Plus, Odessa can be cold but probably not the -40 below that you might get in Siberia, so all your body parts should still function  .

[Misha]

You always say that a man shouldn't use a webcam but should fly immediately to the first real date; so, the girl could tell him if he's young and handsome enough for her.

Ideally, yes, you would have your first date within days of chatting. This minimizes the risk of creating a fantasy IMHO 

[Daveman]

I think the second visit is unnecessary. It's time for her to visit or we can travel somewhere.
Certainly, I must travel to her location first. If it goes well, we can plan our future together.

Like I wrote up thread, you come across as being in a wee bit of a hurry.      

Also, I think it's not a good idea to show all your deficiencies by living at her place so early. It's better to iron your clothes, clean your shoes, shave, etc and come to a date in the tip-top condition.

Where will she live if she visits you?  Or if you travel together? 

[Vincenzo]

Where will she live if she visits you?  Or if you travel together?

There are many single rooms in hotels. Yes, I know that they cost almost the same as doubles.
Even if she visits me, we'll go traveling around.

I think when you pay for a double room, you expect to have intimate time. She may be scared and refuse to go with you.

[Vincenzo]

Ideally, yes, you would have your first date within days of chatting. This minimizes the risk of creating a fantasy

Days? I would rather send a package of my last photos and show myself on video; so, she won't get any surprises.

There is always a cooling period. At first, you fall in love and have sharp feelings. But later they can disappear.

[Vincenzo]

Plus, Odessa can be cold but probably not the -40 below that you might get in Siberia, so all your body parts should still function  .

It's true that you can always find fun, but summer is really the best season to visit a Russian lady.
She can take a week off, and you can travel somewhere or just stroll in a park or along a river...

Cold is not a big problem, the flu and other diseases may make you sick.

[Misha]

There is always a cooling period. At first, you fall in love and have sharp feelings. But later they can disappear.

And, more often than not, they are never there for the women who tend to fall in love less easily than the men in the pursuit of young and attractive women 

[Vincenzo]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me.
Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

In real life, a man meets a woman. One of them must make the first step and start flirting and wooing.
As time progresses, they both must overcome the anxiety and fear of getting closer to each other and eventually get married.

Certainly, I've read a few books on being romantic. They helped tremendously.

[SANDRO43]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me. Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

RWD is probably NOT the right website for that .

http://www.secretwitchcraft.com/
http://www.magicallovespell.com/www.magicallovespell.com/PsychicAbigail.html

[Daveman]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me.
Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

In real life, a man meets a woman. One of them must make the first step and start flirting and wooing.
As time progresses, they both must overcome the anxiety and fear of getting closer to each other and eventually get married.

Certainly, I've read a few books on being romantic. They helped tremendously.

Dude, we're trying to do exactly that... by getting you to spends LOTS of face time with her and allow her be completely won over - heart, mind, body, and soul - by your ultimate coolness, stellar wit and voraciously appealing charm... in person -- where it solidifies froofy dreams and floofy feelings into something solid that will grow! 

[Boethius]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me.
Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

In real life, a man meets a woman. One of them must make the first step and start flirting and wooing.
As time progresses, they both must overcome the anxiety and fear of getting closer to each other and eventually get married.

Certainly, I've read a few books on being romantic. They helped tremendously.

No one can "make" someone fall in love.  Be yourself.  If she likes you, she likes you, if she doesn't, it wasn't meant to be.

[Misha]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me. Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

Sorry, love potions are not my area of expertise. The only thing you can do is meet her, be yourself, and hopefully she will fall for you and better yet it will be mutual. As others have said, if it is not meant to be, there is no sense 

[Patagonie]

Well, you should help me to do something to make her fall in love with me.
Any ideas? That's the main point of this topic.

In real life, a man meets a woman. One of them must make the first step and start flirting and wooing.
As time progresses, they both must overcome the anxiety and fear of getting closer to each other and eventually get married.

Certainly, I've read a few books on being romantic. They helped tremendously.

Vincenzo, would you like tell me wich books do you read ?

[Patagonie]

Dude, we're trying to do exactly that... by getting you to spends LOTS of face time with her and allow her be completely won over - heart, mind, body, and soul - by your ultimate coolness, stellar wit and voraciously appealing charm... in person -- where it solidifies froofy dreams and floofy feelings into something solid that will grow! 

All the guys here (and they are not newbies) are saying the same thing : go into the field.
Rather than staring your computer screen i recommend you to hit as many local women as possible in your country and to get trained with those ones. Tell us in 2010 how many phone number you got, how many kisses you got, and how many girls you f.... This would give us an idea of your ability (to be comfortable with women), and where you have to work.

[Patagonie]

RWD is probably NOT the right website for that .

http://www.secretwitchcraft.com/
http://www.magicallovespell.com/www.magicallovespell.com/PsychicAbigail.html

 

[Vincenzo]

I prefer quality vs quantity.
I've been with quite a few women and I know whom I want.
Some people can test drive every possible automobile, but I know which one is the object of my desire and future purchase after the moment I saw it the first time.
Since I met The Girl, I haven't seen anybody as beautiful, smart, and perfect. I'd been seeing a local girl, but I don't know where she is and I don't care.

I'm reading the book Romance the Woman You Love.
The main idea is "Be Different from Others."

[Misha]

I'm reading the book Romance the Woman You Love.
The main idea is "Be Different from Others."

Isn't this book for people who are in an already established, long-term relationship 

[Vincenzo]

Isn't this book for people who are in an already established, long-term relationship 

Then, the book is for me!

[Patagonie]

I prefer quality vs quantity.
I've been with quite a few women and I know whom I want.
Some people can test drive every possible automobile, but I know which one is the object of my desire and future purchase after the moment I saw it the first time.
Since I met The Girl, I haven't seen anybody as beautiful, smart, and perfect. I'd been seeing a local girl, but I don't know where she is and I don't care.

I'm reading the book Romance the Woman You Love.
The main idea is "Be Different from Others."

You never have quality as you don't have the choice, and you have quality as you can get POTENTIALLY quantity.

"but I know which one is the object of my desire and future purchase after the moment I saw it the first time." This the most stupid thing i ever read on the forum after many hundreds hours of reading, the MOST. You are very young and or very immature, wich means without experience, because you focus on fantaisy and dreams, now a successful life is anchored in reality (the same with love).

And please throw out quickly this shit book because with this book you are not "Be Different from Others." but an AFC more, wich is boring for 99% of women. Never rely on women to tell you how they want to be courtshiped.

I would avoid you my twenty years of jerk attitude about the behavior to have with woman. Yes i know anybody cannot  avoid what is called experience, and each one must find his own way, suffering pain and glasness throug a repeated cycle during life. But to help you i had listened women during many and many years believing : if they can tell me theirs secrets, how they dream to be courtshiped, so i can understand them and be a good belover and have success. I can tell you this totally inefficient because they don't know consciously what they want and they have a real double personnality around those topics, so of course never buy any books writed by a woman, they don't know shit.
From my fourteen i had read a bunch of psychology books, i can say it helps (it had helped myself too to grow) but it's always inefficient.
I let you find the right way, but of course i think that you need to have a brainwashing because you are absolutely not ready.

[Misha]

Then, the book is for me!

By long-term established relationship, I mean married for years or decades. You still have to meet the woman with whom you are convinced you have a "relationship"....

[Vincenzo]

Male authors (all these pickup artists) are usually obsessed with the art of seduction, not retention.
Seduction is not a problem when you use a dating website, many girls are easily approachable and can give you a chance. Certainly, male authors have interesting ideas; for example, it's better to be sexually deprived when you're hunting for a girl, then you speak and act more  vigorously.

If a girl asks how she must court me, I won't be able to give good advice. I can give some ideas. But if an author compiles many ideas into a book, it'll be interesting reading for a woman.

Not all women are equal. Some hate romance, flowers, poems, etc. But mine wants it all.

[Patagonie]

Male authors (all these pickup artists) are usually obsessed with the art of seduction, not retention.

TRUE the PUA don't focuse about the LTR, just on the beginning.

Seduction is not a problem when you use a dating website, many girls are easily approachable and can give you a chance. A CHANCE FOR WHAT : TO DO BLABLA WITH FAT YURI, ELENA WHO DRINKS ONE BOTTLE OF VODKA PER DAY, JULIA WHO SUFFERS FROM HUSBAND VIOLENCE. Certainly, male authors have interesting ideas; for example, it's better to be sexually deprived when you're hunting for a girl, then you speak and act more  vigorously.
INTERNET is not THE REAL LIFE

If a girl asks how she must court me, I won't be able to give good advice. I can give some ideas. But if an author compiles many ideas into a book, it'll be interesting reading for a woman.

Not all women are equal. Some hate romance, flowers, poems, etc. But mine wants it all.

[Vincenzo]

A CHANCE FOR WHAT : TO DO BLABLA WITH FAT YURI, ELENA WHO DRINKS ONE BOTTLE OF VODKA PER DAY, JULIA WHO SUFFERS FROM HUSBAND VIOLENCE.

Yes, this is very true about contacts on Mamba.
At least, a good dating website will verify information about the marital status, kids, sex, age of a potential bride.

However, Fat Yuri, Elena alcoholic, and abused Julia will decline your request for a webcam call.