Vincenzo's thread and Mamba debate

[Vincenzo]

You could get a lemon, a car that looks good in the photos, but is horrible to drive. If you happen to fall upon an unscrupulous seller, it could have been a car (or even two cars) that were wrecks, repaired, welded together and made to look good for a quick sale to the first sucker and it will fall apart within weeks of your purchase.

I know how to check cars, I always work on them myself.
You have to act quickly when you see a car that is both cheap and fully functional, you must estimate the price of possible repairs, etc.
However, you can always buy a car with a hyper-inflated price that stays on the market for months if you have enough dough.

If you tell to a perfect girl that you want to think and check other ladies, you may not have the second chance with her.

[2tallbill]

The debate is a bit silly, however


Has anyone figured out how to become a real member?


I have Verizon and I have NEVER gotten a text with the
secret code.


I think Two Bit figured it out, can anyone spill the beans? or
how to become a VIP??? I would shell out a few bucks but the
damn thing won't take my credit cards.


I was very very briefly a REAL member while in Georgia, however
shortly after they froze my account saying I was posting inappropriate photos. They weren't even photos of my schlong,
they were just photos of myself fully dressed .

[Vincenzo]

Flowers every day?!? Where do you get such ideas? Compliments, sure, but even then, if a woman wants to be constantly complimented all the time, it screams out to me major complex and self-esteem issues. Such women, should be avoided at all cost IMHO.

What's the problem with flowers? I can always pick daisies riding home.

[Boethius]

I was very very briefly a REAL member while in Georgia, however
shortly after they froze my account saying I was posting inappropriate photos. They weren't even photos of my schlong,
they were just photos of myself fully dressed .

Has anyone figured out how to become a real member?

Change your name to Anthony Weiner.

[2tallbill]

Change your name to Anthony Weiner.

Everybody is a comedian     


Yes, I could see how you couldn't help it.

[Misha]

If you tell to a perfect girl that you want to think and check other ladies, you may not have the second chance with her.

Not necessary to check out other women, simply a question not falling for a fantasy of your own fabulation that you have yet to meet...

[Misha]

What's the problem with flowers? I can always pick daisies riding home.

Hard to pick daisies when it is minus forty outside as is often the case in Canada    Besides, IMHO, most women would probably say enough with the fr*ggin daisies after a few days    Once is perhaps cute, twice is trite, thrice is perturbing IMHO 

[nicknick]

The debate is a bit silly, however


Has anyone figured out how to become a real member?


I have Verizon and I have NEVER gotten a text with the
secret code.


I think Two Bit figured it out, can anyone spill the beans? or
how to become a VIP??? I would shell out a few bucks but the
damn thing won't take my credit cards.


I was very very briefly a REAL member while in Georgia, however
shortly after they froze my account saying I was posting inappropriate photos. They weren't even photos of my schlong,
they were just photos of myself fully dressed .

2tallbill,

Although this may not be a great deal of help, at least it should narrow down where to look.

I managed to get Real status in the UK, with a UK mobile operator no problem.  So, I would suggest that it is probably nothing wrong at the Mamba end of things but possibly something to do with your mobile operator - I presume that Verizon is a mobile operator?

With getting VIP, again it may be a problem with Verizon rather than anything else.  To get VIP you need to click on ''My Profile'' and then go down the page a bit and on the left you'll see ''Activate your VIP Status''.

If you click on this link it will ask you to send a text message with a particular code to a certain number and your mobile account will be charged.

Don't worry about the drop down box that says ''Your mobile operator'' that's just there to give you the price for using different Russian operators - not for anything else.

Once you've activated the VIP status then it can be extended by sending another text message or by using Paypal if your credit card doesn't work.

If there are problems with sending the text message then I would suggest that it may be some problem with Verizon rather than with Mamba as the service works fine from the UK.

[Vincenzo]

    Besides, IMHO, most women would probably say enough with the fr*ggin daisies after a few days    Once is perhaps cute, twice is trite, thrice is perturbing IMHO 

There are million other ways to be romantic.
Women always appreciate a bouquet of flowers, you can arrange it a thousand different ways.

Some men look for super beautiful partners. I look for an interesting person and friend. Boredom in a relationship is my worst fear. That's what I test a girl for.

[Misha]

There are million other ways to be romantic.
Women always appreciate a bouquet of flowers, you can arrange it a thousand different ways.

Some men look for super beautiful partners. I look for an interesting person and friend. Boredom in a relationship is my worst fear. That's what I test a girl for.

In moderation, romance is good. However, too much lathered on too thick may make a man seem merely needy IMHO...

[LAman]

There are million other ways to be romantic.
Women always appreciate a bouquet of flowers, you can arrange it a thousand different ways.

Some men look for super beautiful partners. I look for an interesting person and friend. Boredom in a relationship is my worst fear. That's what I test a girl for.

It may be your girl's worst fear also.....based on this thread.....it kinda reminds me of a dog chasing its own tail...around and around it goes....

[Patagonie]

It may be your girl's worst fear also.....based on this thread.....it kinda reminds me of a dog chasing its own tail...around and around it goes....

 

[BillyB]

Mamba is a complete waste of time.

It's full of local guys looking for a one-night stand.

You never know which girl looks for an international affair. Most girls want only local guys in the same city.

It seems you talked to a few ladies at Mamba.ru to understand this. Based off a few RW posts I've read in this thread and elsewhere, they seem to have the same experience and wouldn't recommend the place. I've also talked to RW about that place and one told me over 95% of the men in their first message is talking about sex. Another told me she believes half the men's profiles without photos are married men or in a relationship with another woman. Another RW told me it is unbelievable on how many stupid and desperate men are on the internet.
 
Mamba network is the biggest personals in the FSU and is dominated by people from the FSU. With so many RW having a bad experience there, what does this all mean? It means your competition sucks on a large scale. When you read at agency websites that RW are looking for better men, it's not all hype. There's truth to that.
 
 If you're a good desirable man, you should have no problem beating your competition. I've spoken about some of my dating experiences coming from Mamba in another thread but since more of the ladies I've once dated is not at Mamba anymore, I will tell some more.
 

 I wrote a RW who was 25 and we set up a day and time for a first date. I was also in communication with another girl but it was strange. Too many similarities between her and the one I was going on a date with. I ask the 25 yo if she had another profile but she denied it. I told her I think someone similar to you is playing a game with me but I won't be angry if she did have another profile. She confessed it was her younger sister who wrote me. To show know hard feelings I told her to invite her sister for the date and they agreed. It was my first time having a first date with sisters.
 

 I dated a RW who was older than I. All she wanted was companionship and I stopped communicating with her after months of dating her because I needed more in my life and was getting more serious with another lady who had more promise. After 6 months she calls me up again and said she missed me and wanted to see me again. I agreed and suspected she wanted to rekindled  memories of those hotsy totsy nights. I was right. She told me she knew I was active on Mamba because I wrote her daughter on Mamba. Her daughter just came to America and set up a profile on the site. Interesting because when I had dated mom over 6 months ago, she suggested I marry her daughter who was 21 yo and going to a university in St. Petersburg. I ask mom if it's a problem if I have relations with her and later her daughter but she said it was okay. Mom had determined that I was a good man for her daughter and that is important.
 

 Some of you may think a good man is a nice guy but not true. A good man is a good provider, responsible, has good temperament, strong and stable mentally and physically, gentle and protective of women. I was flattered by mom's offer but I declined. I've had experience in a relationship with a mother and her daughter in the past at different times of course so that didn't bother me but the fact daughter is in FSU, I'm here, and mom is setting it up, I don't know if daughter will ever truly love me. I prefer to find the women instead of letting others find them for me. When I was young, many of my mom's friends tried to get me to date their daughters too.
 

 When on a date, it's important to set the mood and diffuse any tense situations. Some guys are so nervous they don't pay attention to details. It's also important to be quick with answers to unexpected comments. One RW I dated who was a recent divorcee was brand new to the dating scene especially after I learned she gets tips from her friend. On our second date she gets in my car for the first time as we planned to take a drive. After opening and closing the door for her and getting in on my side, she said to me “This is the part where my friend said it could get dangerous.” I quickly responded “Why? Is this the moment you plan on hurting me?”  She laughs, loosened up and felt more comfortable with me after that.
 

 I dated a FSU woman from one of the more conservative nations. She didn't take my kiss very well when I picked her up for a first date and didn't take my arm when I offered. I asked her if there was a problem but she said it's not good for women in her culture to kiss or take a man's arm in public unless it's her husbands. I respected her wishes and tradition. My good manners and composure had turned her on enough to get a second date. We went to the park and at the right moment I kissed her on the cheek and she didn't resist. Next I kissed on the lips and come to find out, her tongue was in a playful mood. There was a few hours of kissing and petting and as we leave the park at sundown, she grabs my arm to hold but I pull away and say “I don't want to do anything to violate your traditions.” She laughs and grabs my arm tightly as we walk towards the car.
 

 Some of you may remember that I was going to have 2 RW on the work visa program to come live with me but they decided to stay in NY before reaching my city. In another case I did have a RW stay with me. After communications with a RW from another state I offered to show her my city if she has free time to come here and she did. I paid for half her airfare and she was comfortable staying in my home although we were meeting for the first time.
 

 In another case I was planning to visit a RW in another state but canceled on her because I was getting more serious with another RW. Although she had 2 small daughters, she felt comfortable with me staying in her home. I was appreciative that she wanted to save me some money from having to stay in a hotel. She said compared to all the freaks out there, after communicating with me, she's comfortable I'm a decent man and had no problem with me staying at her place.
 

 All these RW and more I've met locally in America on Mamba. In the FSU the ladies I've met just walking down the street can be sociable and friendly. I could easily get 3 phone numbers a day from ladies if I had lived in the FSU. I was busy enough just with the small sample of RW living in near my city and in America.
 

 Why didn't I marry any of the ladies I've just talked about above and in the past? Because of differences small or large that I thought would not be healthy for a marriage. Some ladies wanted to marry me but I had to explain the differences between us weren't bad, but it would affect how we could co-exist in the same house. Some women have different political beliefs or different ideas on the roles of a man and woman. I like women and I enjoy dating them whether or not it leads to marriage. Dating is an opportunity to get to know someone and it can be fun dating a lady even if it doesn't last forever. Although it doesn't always last forever, for the moment when a lady is in my care, I will take good care of her, treat her with respect and like a lady.
 

 Some women I couldn't marry because of bad things such as they had serious character flaws. I once told about the girl who made a proposition to me after she found out I wasn't going to get more serious with her in a relationship and offered to trade a physical relationship in return for financial help while she goes to college. One woman was a gold digger but my experiences with gold diggers are few and short. Another woman had zero skills in life. Could do anything in a house. She was 22 yo and her American husband met her in a disco and married her. She divorce him soon after since she said he had issues. He gave her a pre-nup that paid her for life in the event of a divorce unless she or he died or she remarried. She made it clear she wanted to go out with me but didn't want to get remarried. I didn't like her character but I don't blame her entirely. Most FSU 22 yo girls would be tempted if Mr. American comes offering financial support for life in exchange for marriage no matter how short it may last.
 

 Vincenzo, although it is very rude and tacky for men to talk sex in the early communications with a lady, don't dismiss the importance of intimacy. Women tend to reject desperate, horny and perverted men but they do want a wonderful love life. Once a woman trusts you and feels comfortable with you, she will have no problems talking about intimacy with you because it is an important part of relations and should be discussed.
 
The odds at Mamba are stacked in favor for the men. If you are in the top 10% of desirable men, you will have lots of success. You may be good looking but if you fail to communicate, you will fail. I found my fiancee, pictured below, on Mamba. She was looking for friends and love. She wasn't looking for marriage but a great guy can change a woman's heart.
 

[I/O]

a great guy can change a woman's heart.

I guess you best hope she doesn't meet one........................

[TwoBitBandit]

The debate is a bit silly, however


Has anyone figured out how to become a real member?


I have Verizon and I have NEVER gotten a text with the
secret code.


I think Two Bit figured it out, can anyone spill the beans? or
how to become a VIP??? I would shell out a few bucks but the
damn thing won't take my credit cards.

This thread is ancient, but here's my two bits worth:
1.  The first time I joined Mamba two years ago, I was able to get real status by adding about $15 with a credit card.  It gave me real status even though I didn't give it a phone number.
2.  The second time I joined mamba last year, I tried to get real status by adding a smaller amount on a credit card.  It didn't work: perhaps they eliminated this path or perhaps I didn't add enough money.  I don't know.  The SMS message method on my own cell phone didn't work.  I tried various friends' cell phones and eventually found a colleague with an AT&T cell phone that would receive Mamba's SMS message.  However, other cell phones (including other AT&T phones) didn't work.  I don't know what the magic with that paticular phone or SIM card was.   My colleague's phone was a regular cell phone number in the 408 area code in Silicon Valley in California.
3.  I subsequently (a couple of months ago) got issued a new AT&T phone by my employer with a new SIM card.  I was able to get real status on Mamba on a test account I set up.  (I didn't intend to use the account: I was wanted to see if it would work.)


I had no problems getting Mamba to take my credit card.  (2TallBill, I don't know why you had a problem.)


My recommendation to anyone having problems getting "real" status on Mamba is to approach their friends and colleagues and try their numbers.  Mamba is pretty polite and to this date hasn't sent me any SMS spam.  Their intent in collecting your cell phone number seems to be a legitimate effort to mitigate spam on their own network.

[Eduard]

The problem with Mamba and other local Russian sites is that WM who doesn't speak Russian will definitely skip many good women and waste much time on the wrong women because of the language barrier and not really being able to read women's profiles. Yes, sure, there is that English interface, but it only translates the basics. You don't get the translation of the important stuff, stuff that a woman writes from the heart as seeing on this profile here:
http://love.mail.ru/yalushe/?afolder=dating


Yes, you can put all that Russian text through google translate, but most won't really understand what she is talking about and what it really means. Misha will probably get it, I'd be interested to know if you guys think she is a good "wife material" for a WM or not, for a RM? and why?

[Muzh]

The 36 year old (hot babe) is looking for men 31-40. Not the age range most guys here are.

[Eduard]

The 36 year old (hot babe) is looking for men 31-40. Not the age range most guys here are.

is that all? I didn't have "the guys here" in mind but WM and RM in general.

[Vincenzo]

You don't get the translation of the important stuff, stuff that a woman writes from the heart as seeing on this profile here:
http://love.mail.ru/yalushe/?afolder=dating

I'd be interested to know if you guys think she is a good "wife material" for a WM or not, for a RM? and why?

I think she is tired of sex offers for $50 and she wrote a sarcastic profile.
She can write whatever she wants to distract men because she has so many visitors: 5,000.

Nevertheless, she doesn't want to meet non-Slavic men, including Western men.
It's contrary to what agencies tell you, "Russian women hate Russian men." If I browse vkontakte profiles, most beautiful women have handsome Russian men.

[Misha]

The 36 year old (hot babe) is looking for men 31-40. Not the age range most guys here are.

Most Russian women want a man to be within 5 years of age, some will push it up to  10 for the right man. Women on Russian sites looking for older than that are very, very rare IMHO

[Nat]

Women on Russian sites looking for older than that are very, very rare IMHO

True, and they do have daddy issues. Not that it's bad, but that implies that their man will have to be a daddy and care for them, not vice versa

BTW, on topic - mamba is a complete waste of time for both sides. I once tried it. 95% of guys are looking for a one-night stand, the other 5% are freaks. I deleted my profile in 5 days after signing up 

[Eduard]

True, and they do have daddy issues. Not that it's bad, but that implies that their man will have to be a daddy and care for them, not vice versa

BTW, on topic - mamba is a complete waste of time for both sides. I once tried it. 95% of guys are looking for a one-night stand, the other 5% are freaks. I deleted my profile in 5 days after signing up 

I noticed that many women (especially nice looking) remove their profile after 2-3 days, not just on Mamba, but on all local Russian sites. I guess they get too much unwanted attention and figure it's not worth the aggravation...
But I wouldn't say that it's a "complete waste of time. One just needs to invest a lot of time and effort and it's very possible to find some outstanding women this way. I don't know whether it works both ways and a woman can be as successful in her search (never had a female client who was looking for a male) but with enough effort and knowledge there are plenty of opportunities for men there.

[ML]

BTW, on topic - mamba is a complete waste of time for both sides. I once tried it. 95% of guys are looking for a one-night stand, the other 5% are freaks. I deleted my profile in 5 days after signing up 

Not my experience, re the waste of time.  I met several good women from that website, or I should say from Singles.ru which I believe is a mirror site.

I was not one of the 95%, and I was able to hide my status as one of the 5%.

[BillyB]

BTW, on topic - mamba is a complete waste of time for both sides. I once tried it. 95% of guys are looking for a one-night stand, the other 5% are freaks. I deleted my profile in 5 days after signing up 

Mamba is good for good guys. It's not an international dating site but it's great for getting local dates and I did well with it in America.
 
Many of my dates have told me similiar numbers to yours when talking about the lack of quality men there. Most men there are RM. Many people stereotype RW as wanting to get green cards or marry for finacial gain. I believe most RW will be open to marrying a Western man because she seeks a better man that what she's experienced at home.
 
Because there are a lack of quality men on mamba, a good guy should have no problem beating his competition. Some of my dates have told me they wanted to leave mamba too since they have wasted too much time reading what losers have to say. On the other hand, if a woman is a pro dater or looking to make a few bucks, she will have plenty of propositions.
 
I read the link Ed put up recently. I'm amazed a 35 yo woman got 5500+ views in the last month. A lot of men interested in her. Hard to believe she hasn't found a good guy yet out of all the options she has but ome women can be very selective with that many choices. 

[Misha]

BTW, on topic - mamba is a complete waste of time for both sides. I once tried it. 95% of guys are looking for a one-night stand, the other 5% are freaks. I deleted my profile in 5 days after signing up 

It is a numbers game for both the women and the men. You can't expect to be online for five days and find your Prince Charming among the first five guys that write    My wife had her account for close to a year before meeting me. The problem with both men and women is that they expect to get immediate results without putting the time and energy required into it.