Re: Theories on Marriage

[BillyB]

Billy, you may appreciate a submissive wife,

Yes I appreciate submissive women and I make no secret of it. I think it's very healthy for a marriage when a woman 100% respects and adores her husbands intelligence, wisdom and the decisions he makes. There should not be two bosses in the home but with that said, a good man will make many decisions that make his wife happy.
 
I think it's wrong for women to marry men they need to educate or look down on. Just look at the problems Aloe goes through and I'm sure many here divorced or married have had that same experience. I don't want that experience. Marriage should not be painful and full of conflict.
 
My fiancee is thrilled on how I take care of her. She is happy with the way I think. My fiancee will assume a more submissive role than most women becasue she feels her reward is a solid happy marriage. I'm willing to bet I will take care of my fiancee better than most men here.
 
Aloe's husband would not be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. Most men here wouldn't be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. When I was young, I probably would not be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. She would not marry a man who is emotionally unstable. Just look at what goes on in the forum when people disagree. Some get angry and call each others names. This kind of stuff not only happens on the internet, it happens with those they live and disagree with.
 
One reason I don't argue with my fiancee is because we think alike pertaining to religion, politics, abortion, guns, and other hot topics that can escalate into shouting matches and regret getting involved in a relationship with the other person. I get credit for finding her. I'm not good for every woman and my fiancee may not be good for every man because she will run a guy over if he's half a loser but we are good for each other. As it stands now, Aloe and her husband have differing views on how to run the family. They are not perfect for each other and they both will struggle. Aloe is now feeling she needs to run her man over.
 
Aloe didn't marry a man she respects in the manner I think a woman should respect a man. I don't expect woman to just give respect for any man but a woman should have made her man earn his respect before she said "I do".  Aloe has to deal with this situation possibly forever. I hope she comes back and gives a report on how she thinks a family should operate and the roles of a husband and wife. If she has some faults, hopefully she can admit them too and we can better help her situation from her angle. Unless someone has contact with the husband, no sense trying to change him. He probably won't go to counseling so Aloe will have to be crafty to earn the right to be his teacher. I think being submissive and doubling up the hot sex will be a good way to start. Soften him up a little and soon he will be eating out of Aloe's hand.

[Faux Pas]

Yes I appreciate submissive women and I make no secret of it. I think it's very healthy for a marriage when a woman 100% respects and adores her husbands intelligence, wisdom and the decisions he makes. There should not be two bosses in the home but with that said, a good man will make many decisions that make his wife happy.
 
I think it's wrong for women to marry men they need to educate or look down on. Just look at the problems Aloe goes through and I'm sure many here divorced or married have had that same experience. I don't want that experience. Marriage should not be painful and full of conflict.
 
My fiancee is thrilled on how I take care of her. She is happy with the way I think. My fiancee will assume a more submissive role than most women becasue she feels her reward is a solid happy marriage. I'm willing to bet I will take care of my fiancee better than most men here.
 
Aloe's husband would not be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. Most men here wouldn't be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. When I was young, I probably would not be able to catch a woman like my fiancee. She would not marry a man who is emotionally unstable. Just look at what goes on in the forum when people disagree. Some get angry and call each others names. This kind of stuff not only happens on the internet, it happens with those they live and disagree with.
 
One reason I don't argue with my fiancee is because we think alike pertaining to religion, politics, abortion, guns, and other hot topics that can escalate into shouting matches and regret getting involved in a relationship with the other person. I get credit for finding her. I'm not good for every woman and my fiancee may not be good for every man because she will run a guy over if he's half a loser but we are good for each other. As it stands now, Aloe and her husband have differing views on how to run the family. They are not perfect for each other and they both will struggle. Aloe is now feeling she needs to run her man over.
 
Aloe didn't marry a man she respects in the manner I think a woman should respect a man. I don't expect woman to just give respect for any man but a woman should have made her man earn his respect before she said "I do".  Aloe has to deal with this situation possibly forever. I hope she comes back and gives a report on how she thinks a family should operate and the roles of a husband and wife. If she has some faults, hopefully she can admit them too and we can better help her situation from her angle. Unless someone has contact with the husband, no sense trying to change him. He probably won't go to counseling so Aloe will have to be crafty to earn the right to be his teacher. I think being submissive and doubling up the hot sex will be a good way to start. Soften him up a little and soon he will be eating out of Aloe's hand.

 

[BillyB]

 

Everywhere I go you follow me around.

[Faux Pas]

Everywhere I go you follow me around.

Follow you around? Please allow me to remind you Billy, you are on a forum. Following you around isn't required to see or respond to your asinine, inane posts. Your advices really are to just much to not respond to sometimes. You are very delusional

[BillyB]

Follow you around?

That's about what you said last week. People aren't stupid.
 
Instead of wasting time on me, how about saying something nice about your marriage. You got over 3800 posts here and you never say anything wonderful about your wife. Tell guys here why they should get what you're having. It's more productive than posting cartoon characters. Better yet, why don't you actually spend some time with your wife. It's Friday night. Take her out to a nice dinner and bond. It'll be much more pleasant experience than taking on me.

[BillyB]

 
Well???? Cat got your tongue?
 
When you get back, maybe you can explain to everyone why you pulled my post out of Aloe's thread, titled it "Theories on Marriage", and laughed about it. You're not the owner of this forum so stop playing games with it and giving it a bad reputation. What do you do to your wife when she says something you don't agree with? Put a muzzle on her?
 
If you do come back and claim your wife is happy, I'd actually believe you. As long as you sit in your own room, play on the computer, and stay away from her, she's happy.
 
I think I had some good advice for Aloe in that post so you should have let her read it. She's going to get more from her husband by being submissive than independent. She'll get better results with sugar than sh!t.

[Faux Pas]

That's about what you said last week. People aren't stupid.
 
Instead of wasting time on me, how about saying something nice about your marriage. You got over 3800 posts here and you never say anything wonderful about your wife. Tell guys here why they should get what you're having. It's more productive than posting cartoon characters. Better yet, why don't you actually spend some time with your wife. It's Friday night. Take her out to a nice dinner and bond. It'll be much more pleasant experience than taking on me.

 


There you go again Billy, seeking approval of others. What a lonely insecure little guy you must be. I know what I have at home Billy and I don't need to explain it to you and I don't need to bark out marriage advice and tell others how to be a man. I live it. You can continue to dwell in your fantasies of master and slave but, don't be surprised when others don't buy into it. 

[Faux Pas]

Well???? Cat got your tongue?
 
When you get back, maybe you can explain to everyone why you pulled my post out of Aloe's thread, titled it "Theories on Marriage", and laughed about it. You're not the owner of this forum so stop playing games with it and giving it a bad reputation. What do you do to your wife when she says something you don't agree with? Put a muzzle on her?
 
If you do come back and claim your wife is happy, I'd actually believe you. As long as you sit in your own room, play on the computer, and stay away from her, she's happy.
 
I think I had some good advice for Aloe in that post so you should have let her read it. She's going to get more from her husband by being submissive than independent. She'll get better results with sugar than sh!t.

Ah gee Billy, were you waiting on me? Please accept my apology. I suppose you were expecting me to answer your posts on an internet board post haste? What a shame you confused me for someone who gives a f**k what you think.


I didn't move your post Einstein, I am not a mod in this section. I thought this was just another thread you started to spew your vitriol. Has someone put a muzzle on you Billy? How can you permit that, I mean you being "the man" and all? Not that it's any of your business but I will answer your question in a sliver of hope you might actually learn something. When my wife says something I don't agree with, I listen to her just as she does me when I've said something she doesn't agree with. You see Billy, my wife and I are equal partners in our relationship. Everything you preach against.


Your advice to Aloe is pure bullsh!t and needed to be separated from her thread where she was requesting honest advice and discourse. Your advice that she bend over and prepare for the rod is as insane as you are. Billy, you are hardly the one to dole out advice on a successful marriage. That is akin to Custer advising on how to defeat Indians

[ECOCKS]

I don't buy into the submissive/dominant theory.

I'm more a partnership of equals sort so that goes completely against my grain.

Of course that's me personally, to each their own. That's as long as BOTH parties are in full agreement as to terms and conditions with the option of walking whenever it suits them.

I've met a couple of gals who were looking to be taken care of although whether that was just a phase or there realm deep-seated personality I couldn't say for sure. One gal hated making decisions. Not just on mundane things but she hated being a parent, couldn't focus on work or education without "boundaries" or "goals" being set by others. Another was looking for material gain at all costs.

Still, that may well be what those women needed in a relationship. As long as there is full disclosure, no coercion and a way out it's not our business UNLESS those involved keep complaining about it.

[I/O]

I think it's very healthy for a marriage when a woman 100% respects and adores her husbands intelligence

I agree, if he has any. 

[acrzybear]

 Billy B
For some reason everytime you post your ideas of a "perfect relationship I always think of this song
 

[Shadow]

The deisred behaviour of a wife is partially cultural, partial due to youth experience.

In some cultures it is desired that the wife says ' yes dear'  until the moment the husband succumbs from a knife in his back or poisoned food.

[BillyB]

 

I didn't move your post Einstein, I am not a mod in this section.

I could of swore your name was on the Married forum as a moderator when I look last night. Probably was removed by Boethius. I just noticed another one of my posts in Aloe's thread was removed by Boethius. 3 removals in the last 24 hours. I should go check back more often to see how much she plays with my posts.

 
Why did Boethius moved my post from Aloe's thread? It was much more on topic compared the the posts in Manlookings thread where she insinuated he's a control freak and talking about shoes and insulting me.

 
Since she titled this thread "Theories on Marriage" I shall give some theories.

 
There are a small group of married people here that post negative, pessimistic, and grumpy. When they get angry when someone disagrees with them, they start calling that person names. I theorize they apply those standards in real life too. Maybe our resident cop acrzybear can testify how many homes he's been to where couples call each other names. Immature behavior and the behavior of many experts here.

 
I do not know why some married couples spend Friday night on the internet playing games and pissing people off. I suspect the other members in their household is tired of hearing "it".

 
The married couples who disagree with spanking have been the people that call other people names in this forum. They shouldn't be worried about spanking because in real life they would be beat if they run their mouths like that. In the real world there are no computer screens to hide behind.

 
The married couples who claim Manlooking is a control freak are actually more control freaks than those they claim. Look how my posts have been handled recently and limit participation. I'm sure those are the kind of people who vote for or create laws to contol of speech,  own guns,  discipline your kids, and to control men in general when they want their wives to cut down on the bread.

 
I theorize that those married couples are actually unhappy with their lives. There are many married couples who post here happy and actually have good things to say to people and their spouses. They can disagree with other with good manners without self destructing. They'd rather spend Friday nights going out with their spouses instead of getting into conficts on the internet. If anybody is unhappy with your life, do not take your frustrations out on me because I will cyber shove it right back up your azz.

 
Most newbies here can read and determine things for themselves Faux Pas. They don't need yours, Ade, or Boethius insult laced posts to determine what is good or bad advice. Looking at the various personalities at the forum and in there pursuit to find someone in their life, they have already determined if they want your life or a happy life.

 
 

I don't buy into the submissive/dominant theory.

I'm more a partnership of equals sort so that goes completely against my grain.

 
When a woman is totally into her man, she will be submissive. That is a good thing. Some of the best employees at work are submitting themselves to do a good job and keep job security because they have a drive to take care of their family.

 
I'm not telling people to be submissive by force. The submission I'm talking about means you are totally and unconditionally giving yourself up to another person. That is a good thing in marriage. Aren't we supposed to give our best to the person that is the most important person in our lives?
 

I'm not a big fan of equal rights relationships. Very rare can two people agree on what is equal. People also tend to keep score in those relationships and get angry when they feel the other isn't pulling their load.

 
I believe husband and wife have distinct responsibilities and there should be no question as to who does what. All this should be sorted out before marriage, not after with big arguments. It doesn't matter if a few people disagree with me here. I tell the ladies I communicate with my opinions on this matter and I'm not starving for female attention.

 
When there are disagreements, I believe the man has the final say. The man is the leader of the home. I'm not saying this just from a Biblical sense but I feel this is the best way a household should operate. I am not impressed when I see women here complain that their husband that doesn't listen to them yet when they don't want to listen to husband, they say he should compromise.  My advice to them is next time marry a man they totally respect and agree with and their won't be any problems. Problems usually happen when the woman thinks the man is stupid in the relationship and not so much if the man thinks the woman is stupid.

 
I understand there are not enough good men to go around so many women settle for mediocre men in their lives. There may not be much respect and love in the marriage but they will get other things they need. Children and financial support.

 
In Aloe's case she's already married and those who tell her to fight for independence is going to make things worse for their marriage. Of course some of those people disagree with me and proceed to call me names and if they have the power, remove my posts. As I mentioned before, Aloe's going to more out of her husband with sugar than sh!t. If Aloe's husband doesn't respond with kindness and love, then Aloe could assume he is an absent husband and could make a decision to go independent then but going indepe
ndent within a marriage doesn't make sense.
 

Is Aloe perfect herself? She seems like a nice gal but she admitted in the past her husband was unhappy with her lack of motivation to vacuum the floor which was once every three weeks. Maybe Aloe may lack motivation in other things too? My advice to her was stop talking to us, get off the computer and make her husband happy. If she resists making her husband happy, then he may resist making her happy and thus could be the reason she's in the spot she's in now.
 

[ECOCKS]

I agree, if he has any. 

LOL!

[BillyB]

 
I've now had 4 posts deleted out of Aloe's thread. As soon as I post something, it's gone. Will the moderator who is following me and trying to CONTROL me please stand up? Let me guess. You're married but saving the world from what I say is more important than family time?

[Boethius]

Should I go wake them all because some idiot online who is all hat no cattle thinks we don't have enough "quality time"?  Why are you, part time father, not spending the only precious time you presumably have with your sons with them?  I'm at least baking fresh bread for my family, when they do wake up.

[BillyB]

I'm at least baking fresh bread for my family, when they do wake up.

I know two of my posts were deleted within seconds after I posted. I doubt you're in the kitchen. After you work so hard on that bread, can I trash it?
 
You need to reevauluate if you're qualified to be a moderator. This isn't the first time you tampered with my posts. You have also played with other people's posts and they caught you on it. You must think people are stupid.
 
You take one post of mine and put it here with a dorky title and didn't say a word so people gave me credit for it and then you completely erase 3 of my other posts without mentioning why.
 
It's okay if moderators disagree with posters but those other moderators don't try to CONTROL those they disagree with. You and Faux Pas are the only moderators with anger managment issues that get you to the point of ridiculing, insulting and name calling those you disagree with. You're making yourself look even more silly playing with the posts of those you disagree with.
 
Usually when a moderator takes action, they let others know what they did and explain to the forum so others can judge if it was fair. You seem to not want to explain and tell everyone you're baking bread. I wasn't off topic or breaking the rules. Being off topic and breaking rules is what you have done these past few weeks ridiculing me and calling me names.
 
If you don't like what I write, don't read. I hate to think what you say and do to your husband when he doesn't agree.

[Boethius]

Bread rises twice, Billy.  I don't stand and watch it.


I am not responding to your whining.


Be a manly man for once. 


And go visit your sons.

[Faux Pas]

  I could of swore your name was on the Married forum as a moderator when I look last night. Probably was removed by Boethius. I just noticed another one of my posts in Aloe's thread was removed by Boethius. 3 removals in the last 24 hours. I should go check back more often to see how much she plays with my posts.

 
Why did Boethius moved my post from Aloe's thread? It was much more on topic compared the the posts in Manlookings thread where she insinuated he's a control freak and talking about shoes and insulting me.

Gee Billy, isn't it a early to be drunk already or did you wake up that way? You quote me and build yourself a strawman rambling on about Boethuis, Aloe's thread and ML's thread. I can only suspect your posts get moderated because you need it. Your mean spirited insensitive post in Aloe's thread needed moderating. If Aloe wishes to read your advice she can do it here without your tripe polluting her thread. Nobody is trying to muzzle you. It's easy enough to do without deleting any of your posts.

 

Since she titled this thread "Theories on Marriage" I shall give some theories.

We've heard your theories ad nauseum. Your are a delusional little man that views the world through his willy and his need to dominate some young teenager. Thus, you think everybody should. We know you Billy and your beliefs on marriage are well documented on this forum. Since you seem to be counting I think you might have one or two disillusioned agree with you. The rest of us are a little shocked, a little surprised and find your rants quite funny. You are a clown Billy and I laugh at you.


Your endless attacks and theories about the marriages of others just reconfirms your jealousy and insecurity. Billy, you really should give it a break. You're not fooling anyone and the more you rant, the more you reveal.


 

 

[Daveman]

Okay guys and gals...




I am locking this thread... Everyone involved in this exchange please take a temporary time-out so I can review some history.


Dave