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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2011, 11:23:47 PM »
Just to say thank you for all the advice given here.

I have always been wondering how good/bad AFA tours might be. John Adams seems a decent guy but that does not mean his tours and socials do not deliver what they promise.

Also many thanks to ML for pointing out decent websites which are not first and foremost money spinners.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 09:29:57 AM »
What service do you think is the best to use to meet foreign women? Particularly Ukrainian women but also Asian and other women.


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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2011, 08:10:51 AM »
I met my current girlfriend soon to be fiance on Ukraindate.com I  agree with ML's site recommendations. Your going to find scammers on any sites whether they are agencies or dating sites. You have to use your own sound judgement to weed out the scammers and pro-daters.
I met many decent serious ladies while on Ukrainedate while filtering out the trash. Skype helps immensely with filtering out the hairy Boris's from the lot. Good luck!
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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2011, 12:59:11 PM »

How about yourself?

So far Ukraindate.com is the best dating site I have found. Although I've not yet tried to contact any ladies there.

As for a tour that's worth taking and priced reasonably ($2-4000) I am still trying to find something good. I've been thinking about AFA. Some say that AFA isn't good, but I've also seen someone writing that they are totally OK. It seems like pretty few people on these forum's have actually been on a tour.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2011, 01:06:50 PM »
I would recommend Ed's service www.realrussianmatch.com as a quick and effective way to go.

Thanks.. I've heard a lot of good stuff about that service. However it is also a very expensive service as I understand it.

I am not ready to pay that much ($15 000 minimum? Just guessing) at this point.

His tactic seems to be to filter out 4 interesting women using online dating and then let the guy come over to visit them. I'd probably try something like that myself before I tried his services. Not that I don't think that his services are great, it's just that the price is over my current budget.
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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2011, 01:07:49 PM »
I met my current girlfriend soon to be fiance on Ukraindate.com I  agree with ML's site recommendations. Your going to find scammers on any sites whether they are agencies or dating sites. You have to use your own sound judgement to weed out the scammers and pro-daters.
I met many decent serious ladies while on Ukrainedate while filtering out the trash. Skype helps immensely with filtering out the hairy Boris's from the lot. Good luck!

Thanks for your input Hammer2722! I am happy for your success.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2011, 01:19:25 PM »

There is one tour that I think is quite good.  I have been on it and I have seen a number of forum members who have been on it with consistanly good comments.   That is Jack Bragg's tour.  You can get information on it at www.firstdream.com.   Jack himself does participate in the forums with a user name of Nunya.  You could pm him if you want for more information.
 
His tours are done completly differntly than the big agency tours.  For one thing he limits his tours to 12 guys.  For another every man meets every woman.  Most importanly is how the women who come are picked.  They are most always sent by small agencies that know their women.  The balance are invited by the men. 
 
There is a TR here on my tour with Jack.  I went with my son and if you want to read about it I think if you do a search for Turboguy and Turbodude you will find the post.  It was back about 4 years ago.

Thanks for the tip. It's a service that seems as good as any. The price seems to around what others charge, considering that one has to pay all expenses once there. But that he limits it to 12 guys is a really good thing.

I'll take a look at your trip report!

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2011, 09:21:32 AM »
Hi Turboguy,
I wonder if you and your son met your wives on Jack's tour?  I went on an AFA tour and, although a good introduction to culture etc, if that's what you want, it's hit and miss, usually miss in meeting a woman for a lasting relationship.  I agree with Vincenzo about the psychology of the social.  And I agree with your insight into the social tours,  But I'm also wondering how Jack's tour differs from this and what is his success rate?  Seems to me it's the same model as AFA or any other tour with the same pro-daters and the same success rate.  How many of jack's tours on average does a man has to take to find a wife?
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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2011, 02:45:04 PM »
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It seems like pretty few people on these forum's have actually been on a tour.

It must be fun, but I wonder how many people got  lasting relationships out of those tours. I have already voiced this opinion on multiple occasions before, and in 10 years communicating in RW-AM environment it has become even more solid - a decent girl would never come 10 miles close to these events.
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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2011, 02:55:40 PM »
Hi Turboguy,
I wonder if you and your son met your wives on Jack's tour?  I went on an AFA tour and, although a good introduction to culture etc, if that's what you want, it's hit and miss, usually miss in meeting a woman for a lasting relationship.  Seems to me it's the same model as AFA or any other tour with the same pro-daters and the same success rate.  How many of jack's tours on average does a man has to take to find a wife?

Having been on three big agency tours and one of Jacks I will say that his format is quite different.  I did come back from two of the big agency tours thinking I had found the right woman but both turned out to be scammers.  I met three great women on Jack's tour but made a trip to meet my wife a few weeks later and never looked back.  The trip to meet my wife was arranged even before the tour and my tour was more to keep my son company and to get him there.  If things had not worked out with my wife the women I met on the tour were among the best prospects of any other trip but no where close to as wonderful as my wife is. 
 
The differences in Jacks are how the women are recruited and that you meet all the women at a social and not just a few.  Also you are constantly meeting women that you pick outside the events.  I have never hesitated to recommend Jack's tour but would never dream of recommending an AFA or other big agency tour.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2011, 05:25:51 PM »

Having been on three big agency tours and one of Jacks I will say that his format is quite different.  I did come back from two of the big agency tours thinking I had found the right woman but both turned out to be scammers.  I met three great women on Jack's tour but made a trip to meet my wife a few weeks later and never looked back.  The trip to meet my wife was arranged even before the tour and my tour was more to keep my son company and to get him there.  If things had not worked out with my wife the women I met on the tour were among the best prospects of any other trip but no where close to as wonderful as my wife is. 
 
The differences in Jacks are how the women are recruited and that you meet all the women at a social and not just a few.  Also you are constantly meeting women that you pick outside the events.  I have never hesitated to recommend Jack's tour but would never dream of recommending an AFA or other big agency tour.

Did your son find a wife on Jack"s tour?

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2011, 07:06:38 PM »

I have already voiced this opinion on multiple occasions before, and in 10 years communicating in RW-AM environment it has become even more solid - a decent girl would never come 10 miles close to these events.

Heard the same from many RW.  RW have a lot of pride.  Sabina told me that a social made her feel like a horse for sale and the next step was for men to examine her teeth. 
 
 
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I wonder how many people got  lasting relationships out of those tours.
 
 
Some men are not looking for a relationship.
 
Nevertheless, I respect Turbo's positive opinion for Jack's variant.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2011, 07:03:38 AM »
Did your son find a wife on Jack"s tour?
No, He met a gal that he really hit it off with. When he came back they were calling and texting like crazy and he made a trip back to spend more time with her. For the first 5 days or so it went great and then for some reason he never told me fell completely apart.
 
 

Heard the same from many RW.  RW have a lot of pride.  Sabina told me that a social made her feel like a horse for sale and the next step was for men to examine her teeth.   
 
Nevertheless, I respect Turbo's positive opinion for Jack's variant.

I have heard the same comment from quite a few women.  It is probably correct at the big agency tours like AFA when the women stand around or sit around and the men do examine them like a piece of meat deciding who they want to talk to next. 
 
I don't think it is applicable to Jack's tours since the women don't stand around and get oggled, they are sitting at a table (along with a few other women) with one of the guys the whole time
 
The big agency tours I did had the women standing around the perimiter and the men each had their own table.  The guys would sit there and look the women over or take a walk a cruise the available women and pick one to talk to.
 
At Jack's events there are big tables with about 8 chairs.  There is one man and about 7 women at a table and your interpreter (you have one full time).  You sit and talk to all the women at the table and if any seem interesting you let your interpreter know which ones you like.  Every so often they blow a whistle and the women move to the next table and the men get a new set of women.  Before it is over every man has met every woman at the event.  When it is over she arranges for you to spend more time with those you found interesting. 
 
At the big agency tours lots of decent women never talk to anyone and some of the hot looking ones are always at a table.  Some of the women have come hundreds of miles and never get to even say hello to a man.  I do like that no one is left out at Jack's sessions. 
 
I don't think any of the women go home from Jacks feeling like a piece of meat for sale.
 
 

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2011, 11:14:43 AM »
I know of a small agency that is not inexpensive, but has a small database of quality, serious women, and as an agency they go the extra mile (or 10 or 20 miles).  But, I do not want to recommend something and appear to have any commercial interest whatsoever.  If you want to PM me, I will provide whatever information I can.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2011, 06:07:25 AM »
I would have hoped that someone with knowledge about Loveme.com could reply in this thread.

I did a search about Lovemen.com previously in this forum and didn't find any useful info, or anyone that seemed suitable to ask. I did a pretty quick search so might have missed something though.

I don't know, I think  at 5.95 per email it's steep, especially if you write to more than one woman at a time.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2011, 06:17:19 PM »
ww.online-dating-ukraine.com/ seems pretty expensive too. You can buy 100 credits for $100 but each woman varies in credit from less than a credit to 20 credits. At 20 credits, that equates to 20.00 for an email when you respond to a woman's email or read her followup email. There's something wrong with that. Anybody know of this agency? Can anyone comment on that agency?

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2012, 04:18:30 AM »
Yeah it is probably best to skip sites that charge per e-mail.

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Re: Best service to use to meet women?
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2012, 07:09:00 AM »
Thanks.. I've heard a lot of good stuff about that service. However it is also a very expensive service as I understand it.

I am not ready to pay that much ($15 000 minimum? Just guessing) at this point.

His tactic seems to be to filter out 4 interesting women using online dating and then let the guy come over to visit them. I'd probably try something like that myself before I tried his services. Not that I don't think that his services are great, it's just that the price is over my current budget.

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You need to consider what is your level of commitement. If your willingness is very HIGH, and your incomes or assets are adequate, buy from the scratch an Eduard's service is not so stupid (also take in consideration that a lot of men don't have enough time to perform their endeavor). You need to know that there are the "lucky" and the "worker". Everybody dreams to meet quickly the right woman and to "bring" (i hate this word but i mean "in the dream movie") her at home. This happens for some ("the lucky")  but i think the largest population are the "workers". So use an Eduard's service or Elena Models gold service (no real informations about this but seems to be a gold service matchmaker). If i consider my  7 FSU travels and 3 others travels directly linked to my endeavor it's a 30k $ ticket. I have a high interest to the culture and about people so these 10 travels are more worthy than Eduard's service (not saying that he doesn't worth it, just different term of comparaison). I have also almost learn an other language and i've started to learn a third (russia). Knowing that i'm aiming a relocation (including FSU) you understand that FSU adventure is so huge that it's a complete change of way of life, not just "searching the bride". In this case if you stick on it, Eduard service is not so expansive. About Jack you must know that this guy try to find (with possibles prodaters like in any humans realtionship) to find the more possible honest  agencies and to guest genuine women. This is an independant opinion from an OP who had had a difference in personality with Jack but who recognizes his true professionnal value. Jacks's costs are very affordable and for a non experimented guy on FSU's scene it is the way to go. You will have a lot of informations and he will protect you.
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