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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2012, 11:17:02 AM »
quick note. found out after wasted a bit of money that AD is a scam (mostly); so to get back at them, i pop online enough to get letters from woman-which i assume takes time and energy for the agency people to write; letters i don't read. so I figure once i get 1000 letters in my mailbox, AD will have wasted a fair amout of time. just a little bit of grey karma.

like alex330 said, those letters are probably computer-generated, anyway.
 
so why waste one more second of your time on AD?...  time that could be better spent doing something productive or enjoyable for yourself.
 
(basically, ask yourself if your time really worth so little.)

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2012, 12:40:11 PM »
Additional to the messages, you can also get gifts with a short note. These gifts you can open and read for free. I saved this one. Read what the message says:
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 
THAT IS A CLASSIC!   AND YOU SAVED IT.  :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2012, 02:00:05 AM »
"Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."

Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?

I think Anastasia doesn't want to (because of financial repercussions if exposed) and doesn't need to resort to that kind of scam.

I will take up this challenge--I can prove exactly this. You have made many ridiculous assertions in this thread-- so put your money where your mouth is.
I can proof of exactly what you deny-- precisely that profile photos are used that belong to a model-- and someone else does the chatting etc.
$5000 bet--10k id f you want it--make it worth the trouble!
Before you say-isolated instance-- be carefull--I have more than one.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2012, 02:00:05 AM »

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2012, 02:05:11 AM »
Reading the OP posts here -my guess--"Harry"   is actually Harriet  !! For the non English speakers-- "he" is a "she" !!
The assetions of rape,sexual assault,porn etc-- are all  pseudo radical female attitudes.

Either way--happy to take the money to prove who is correct.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2012, 04:47:38 AM »
Maybe so, but there are plenty of lonely ladies in the US however.

Yes, and obviously you are one of them aren't you "Harry"??? 

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2012, 04:01:00 PM »
Harry-
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Some agency employee was writing you using a model's photo and name."Has anyone got proof of that? And what about when you are chatting with her and see her on the webcam? Also a hoax?I think Anastasia doesn't want to (because of financial repercussions if exposed) and doesn't need to resort to that kind of scam.

Harry- you can't seem to grasp the concept and separate Anastasia , from the local agency affiliates, that the girls chat through.
It is a very convenient business model that lets them easily distance themselves from what any given affiliate might be up to.
until you  comprehend the basics of the business model, the system you are trying to understand is going to be a challege to you.

It's  simple, The vid chat girls are PAID, period.you can be in denial all you want, that wont change the fact the earth is round and the moon orbits us.
The affiliate agency in UA does what it wants, and what anastasia or similar firms *likely* want, but the big agencies  have culpable deniability, and it works perfectly. The affiliates have several different biz models themselves,but a fairly general pattern of sham.

You also have a huge misunderstanding of what the majority of traffic is to the sites,
married men , and single or married men from cultures that could in effect never marry a RW.
when about 90% of revenue is from that source,and that source wont travel.
1. the girls don't need to sex chat and wont. there are other avenues for that if they are interested.
(asnd many an affiliate agency has their hands in that as well)

2. the other 10% just doesn't matter to theses big firms,  only as additional marketing.

3, women dont need or have any reason to worry about  men in general visiting , and often have boyfriends or husbands.

4, the rest of your side stories, can and do happen, but its the minority, and is pretty much off set by men who do travel that are just plasying the feild for fun and games also.
Its also in the  minority that a regular joe, sincerely looking towards marriage goes.

5, Some of the women can be looking for marriage, again its a minority.but likely out weighs the serious men looking, as odd as that may be in this basically  sham scenario..lol


also you fail to understand the at most local affiliates have the chat women signed up with several big sites, the women seldom know what parent site  the feed chat is coming in from. really.they have electronic translators in place in another window and chat several men at once if possible, its not as hard as you make it sound.If no one s logging in to them they answer the emails of  their various profiles.as part of their salary.

Mostly you are wasting your time and have been told that,
why defend a system you don't fully understand, never will until you get a lot more costly experience than you have ,  and  havn't been on the ground in ukraine to observe first hand?
defending it , simply comes off as an employee, or  justification for your actions of continuing to use those type agencies.
A huge percentage of those women have internet access at home or with a friend, they  *could* get in contact with you in normal ways if they wanted. They have good paying jobs, and wont screw that up for some random foreigner they have no intentions about that just happened to chat with them one day and became slightly enamored..
 :rolleyes:


« Last Edit: June 23, 2012, 04:02:35 PM by Jumper »
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #106 on: June 25, 2012, 07:27:43 PM »
I noticed that the original poster [Harry] has not logged in here since last year.


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #107 on: July 21, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »
sure, but others reading can possibly gain some insight,regardless harry's return or not?




Anyway-


 I find it more than amusing that Anastasiadate openly advertises that they now have
Dasha Astafieva , a well known playboy playmate , listed with a profile,  and give her ID number so men can contact her.


Yes yes she is indeed Ukrainian ,and it certainly could be legit profile,just like all the other things that they have good culpable deniability over..lol




At least they are very open about the fantasy mindset they weave.


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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #108 on: July 21, 2012, 07:21:15 PM »
Do not like the title of thread at all.
Some girls are paid for photos-- models etc. Photos are bought and used-in some cases girl may or may not be aware of the circumstances of the use.Photos are bought thru agents,photographers etc. Some do videos also.
There are many variations to the the theme-- girls may or may not know or understand the web site issues. Basically the attitude is "guys choose to spend their money" and it is rationalised like that.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2012, 03:26:32 AM »
"Guys choose to spend their money " ,based on the deception operated by the Ukrainian local affiliates and their girls. :wallbash:
 
Ukraine is a dishonest culture..end of.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 03:29:15 AM by Chelseaboy »

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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2012, 05:02:43 AM »
"Guys choose to spend their money " ,based on the deception operated by the Ukrainian local affiliates and their girls. :wallbash:
 
Ukraine is a dishonest culture..end of.

I am not arguing that it is acceptable attitude at all--it is morally reprehensible what happens on these sites and that western companies can profit by it and escape the laws .
But-- it does not help to condemn all Ukrainians because of your personal exposure and negative experiences.
The words are used are words I have heard repeatedly by those that seek to justify  ripping off western men.
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Re: Are some Anastasia girls actually visa prostitutes??
« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2012, 05:21:05 PM »
I came across the following while reviewing the help wanted ads in the online Vladivostok classifieds - farpost.ru, thought it was interesting.
 
First here is a link for an employment ad for chat girls. 5-6 hours per day!

http://vladivostok.farpost.ru/14167898.html

If you Google the phone number from the ad, +7 994 004-36-86, you get a dating site ad also from farpost.ru:

http://vladivostok.farpost.ru/14184638.html

If you go to the site listed from the domain of the email address in this ad, "primdate.ru", you get an Anastasia International site. The local agency address is in Vladivostok.
 
www.primdate.ru
 
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