Realistic Expectations

[Patagonie]

why would "one" hope for something like this? Would you hope that the girl got herself a bad deal? Why not smth like this - http://www.buzzfeed.com/abrams/the-most-expensive-apartment-rental-in-nyc

This is a bad joke, the bad joke of the stupidity of some super richs. For few months of rental you can be the owner of a beautiful countryside house in my country, with at least the same comfort, in a house which has a real story, and something else as panorama than a noisy traffic. And for few years of rental, you can own a castel, it's an other level of class and on top of that you get something more interesting historically saying than "Mister X, famous XXXX dropped his ass on this coach".

[Donna_Pedro]

I still would prefer meeting a woman who thinks like this any day, rather than a woman who thinks like DP... but that's my preference... :
Кого я хочу найти:Мужчину, с душой и человеческим сердцем, нежностью и огнем в глазах,

Daah!  This is a bate.  A bate, a piece of romantic bs that men are supposed to take. I had something like this written on my yahoo.com page years ago. This is so funny that you took this bate for truth.

[Maxx2]

Daah!  This is a bate.  A bate, a piece of romantic bs that men are supposed to take. I had something like this written on my yahoo.com page years ago. This is so funny that you took this bate for truth.

Do you mean "bait"?

[Donna_Pedro]

Do you mean "bait"?

ghm.. yep.

[Misha]

Daah!  This is a bate.  A bate, a piece of romantic bs that men are supposed to take. I had something like this written on my yahoo.com page years ago. This is so funny that you took this bate for truth.

For you it is bait, for other women it is heartfelt emotion.

[Donna_Pedro]

For you it is bait, for other women it is heartfelt emotion.

Heartfelt emotion? On a dating website?    Whats next?  Please dont tell me that you trust car salesmen and TV commercials  too?  Honestly - I would not be surprised.

[celluloidheros]

I believe it is easier to find UW that love the water than the ones that hate it. Not sure about the "etc", though 

FYI: Ukrainian famous female swimmers were born in Mariupol (Olga Beresnyeva), Zaporizhzhia (Svitlana Bondarenko), Simferopol (Yana Klochkova), Kharkiv (Darya Stepanyuk and Kateryna Zubkova), Kiev (Daryna Zevina).
The best Ukrainian oarswomen live in Mykolaiv.   

Cool by etc... I meant someone who wouldn't mind going on a boat trip around lake ontario, who would like to fish for salmon/steelhead  who might like to try waterskiing or just hanging out on an island for a few weeks.

I spend a lot of time around the water and I have had GF's who loved the water and a few who it took some coaxing to enjoy it. 

The view of the bridge is from a piece of property (an Island)  that I go to often in the summer, it's in the region known as the 1000 Islands (it's in Canada). 

The fish is a 22 kb steelhead I caught on my boat (it's old but it's paid for)

thanks, don 

[Misha]

Heartfelt emotion? On a dating website?    Whats next?  Please dont tell me that you trust car salesmen and TV commercials  too?  Honestly - I would not be surprised.

Sure, the heartfelt emotion should not be there before you meet, but once you meet and if the relationship develops, then ideally there should be heartfelt emotion. Again, you seem to have a need to project your approach to all women, doubting their sincerity should they deviate from you.

[Anotherkiwi]

...The fish is a 22 kb steelhead I caught on my boat (it's old but it's paid for)

thanks, don

The boat or the fish? 
 
and is it 22 kg or 22 lb?

[Muzh]

The boat or the fish? 
 
and is it 22 kg or 22 lb?

It's 22 kb as in how much went into the photoshop and was saved on a file (e.g. bigfish.jpg 22Kb)

 

[Maxx2]

First it was about shoes now it's about fish. RW like both.

[celluloidheros]

Cool by etc... I meant someone who wouldn't mind going on a boat trip around lake ontario, who would like to fish for salmon/steelhead  who might like to try waterskiing or just hanging out on an island for a few weeks.

I spend a lot of time around the water and I have had GF's who loved the water and a few who it took some coaxing to enjoy it. 

The view of the bridge is from a piece of property (an Island)  that I go to often in the summer, it's in the region known as the 1000 Islands (it's in Canada). 

The fish is a 22 lb Steelhead I caught it on my boat (it's old but it's paid for)

thanks, don

[celluloidheros]

It's 22 kb as in how much went into the photoshop and was saved on a file (e.g. bigfish.jpg 22Kb)

 

You guys are just jealous of my big tuna

[Anotherkiwi]

You guys are just jealous of my big tuna

Nice, but one of my colleagues went game-fishing for the first time at the weekend and landed a 100 kg striped marlin.  You can't do THAT in the Great Lakes!

[TheWongs]

Why would this surprise you?
 
Of course they are going to be the ones voicing their opinions. They're the most educated and have the most to lose. They are also the ones that CAN make a difference and actually already are.
 
Again for the bazillionth time Russia is an emerging country. Why most Westerners continue to compare it to established countries like the USA and Europe, etc. for example, is beyond me.
 
Things don't change overnight, especially a system as deep rooted in it past ways as Russia is. There have been many positive changes already and many more are taking root. Give it time and then see where things are.
 
And with predicting the outcome of any country economically or politically can anyone be sure what will happen in the future? No, if you ask me. The world has become as unpredictable as ever, and that includes the good old USA.
 
It would be nice to see a little bit less of "American exceptionalism". The same shit happens everywhere (just disguised differently) and the guarantees have left some time ago.

Started reading this topic and this post caught my attention. This post hits the nail on the head! When I met my wife, she told me on our first date "I want to tell you something... I was born in Ukraine and I will die in Ukraine. This is my country and I love it very much. I will NEVER leave my country for anyone”! She also added a few things about her family and career etc, but you get the point... She had no interest in meeting a Western man and she did not want to leave her country!
 
Ok... How many kb was that fish again? Jeeez! I'm watching what I type from now on!
 
 

[Muzh]

You guys are just jealous of my big tuna

Cell, back in 1973 we (a group of friends) caught a ~900 pound tuna somewhere northeast of St. Thomas. The difference between my tuna and yours is that you can eat yours completely. All I could do with mine was cut some steaks and leave the rest to the locals.

But, wow, what a day that was. We were originally going for Marlins during the annual tournament we had in early February.

[BC]

Cell, back in 19733 we (a group of friends) caught a ~900 pound tuna somewhere northeast of St. Thomas. The difference between my tuna and yours is that you can eat yours completely. All I could do with mine was cut some steaks and leave the rest to the locals.

But, wow, what a day that was. We were originally going for Marlins during the annual tournament we had in early February.

Yeah I guess the locals enjoyed it....  a quarter million bucks maybe?  Probably a bit less back then.

http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/World/US_Man_Catches_Kg_Tuna_Feds_Seize-5808.html

[Muzh]

Yeah I guess the locals enjoyed it....  a quarter million bucks maybe?  Probably a bit less back then.

http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/World/US_Man_Catches_Kg_Tuna_Feds_Seize-5808.html

What I found later was that Japanese brokers were in the island and would have bought the damn fish IF and only if one of them was there to kill the fish properly. It would have been $15K only. This is 1973, remember.

[magnetic_fields]

Hello everyone,

I haven't had a chance to read all the replies to this thread but I am happy to see Ed on this board.  When I started this search I too saw some drop dead gorgeous women on russian websites. However the woman I did eventually go meet in Moscow was exactly how Ed described: a few years younger (no more than 5 years difference), a few degrees better looking (about an 8 in my opinion), and MUCH MORE WILLING to start a long term relationship. That last part is the most important. I live in NYC. There are TONS of good looking women who are young and willing to DATE. However the minute you're ready to settle down or start a family in the suburbs WATCH OUT!  Those girls head for the hills as they know that there are another 20 guys ready to date them and take them out to dinner, on vacation, etc...

 And that for me is the main difference. It's not so much about looks or age but more about that willingness to begin a life together and the faithfulness that russian women have that has won me over. 

     And to get back to thread's main point. It's more fulfilling to be with a slightly better looking girl who can treat you respectfully rather than a "model" who plays you for a fool. It's fun to be with "perfect 10" woman for a while but in the end you just get burned out or worse divorced!  I never dated a russian woman who was that good looking but I did have an american girlfriend who was a part time model and ultimately it was the worst dating experience of my life. With the russians you get the whole package: a good mix of looks, personality, and intelligence. You can't go wrong if you follow the advice Ed is writing.

Best of luck,

MF

[ML]

. . . MUCH MORE WILLING to start a long term relationship. That last part is the most important. I live in NYC. There are TONS of good looking women who are young and willing to DATE. However the minute you're ready to settle down or start a family in the suburbs WATCH OUT!  Those girls head for the hills as they know that there are another 20 guys ready to date them and take them out to dinner, on vacation, etc...

I am probably lucky to have grown up a generation earlier than many of the younger guys here.

In my earlier years in USA, it was the women who wanted to get married and the men who resisted.

Must be sort of a bitch to be a young man in USA today trying to find a woman who wants to get married.

I suppose it is a reflection of the career opportunities available to today's AW.

[magnetic_fields]

I am probably lucky to have grown up a generation earlier than many of the younger guys here.

In my earlier years in USA, it was the women who wanted to get married and the men who resisted.

Must be sort of a bitch to be a young man in USA today trying to find a woman who wants to get married.

I suppose it is a reflection of the career opportunities available to today's AW.

Actually what has happened is that the women have now become exactly like men.  In a sense they "caught up" with us. Yes of course many men don't want marriage or kids still like in previous generations. The problem is where does this leave decent guys who realize that it won't be easy being a dad at 40+ when your kids will be in college when you turn 60!  If you read the sociological studies America now has more single unmarried people than married people in homes. This is huge! And a sign of things to come. Anyone born after 1975 is really screwed! Haha

[JR]

 Anyone born after 1975 is really screwed! Haha

In more ways than one....((

[Eduard]

To me young American women have an aura of a man. There is very little femininty  left there. Evidently they did catch up... Interestingly I'm getting clients now that are much younger than the typical RW seeker. Right now working with a very good looking West Point grad who is only 28 years old who should be able to get any girl he wants right here in the US. Yet this ain't the case! And he is telling the same story that younger single AW are not really interested in marriage and family.

[Donna_Pedro]

To me young American women have an aura of a man. There is very little femininty  left there. Evidently they did catch up...

I talked exactly like this when I came here. But I have changed my opinion. American women are very confident and self standing. They do not feel that they owe anything to anybody. They do not let men step on their toes. They refuse to be inferior to men. They refuse to be sexual objects. They do not feel that they need to look 100% every minute of the day. They pursue their dreams instead of being  attachments to their husbands and snotty-noses. I admire american women.

[onlyFSU4me]

I talked exactly like this when I came here. But I have changed my opinion. American women are very confident and self standing. They do not feel that they owe anything to anybody. They do not let men step on their toes. They refuse to be inferior to men. They refuse to be sexual objects. They do not feel that they need to look 100% every minute of the day. They pursue their dreams instead of being  attachments to their husbands and snotty-noses. I admire american women.

 I can say the exact same things about my Ukrainian wife Donna. But there is a big difference that I see between her and single women I have met here at home.
 
 Many single western women I have met see marriage as a threat to their freedom. My wife sees it as an advantage were she doesnt have to go through lifes hardships by herself.


 Shes not so insecure that she is afraid to do things for me... shes wants to do it. And this makes me want to do things for her. I know a few western women like that, but most of them are happily married... I haven`t seen too many single ones like this!


 And don`t worry, she is not scared to let me know when I`m doing something wrong! She`s a very strong minded lady! But she also knows when she is wrong and is not so stubborn and proud that she would not admit it... and I respect her very much for that. Many western women I know would never do this is because they are so scared of losing their `independence`to a man.


 Maybe that is why there are so many western women going to sleep at night alone... and there are so many western men looking to FSU for a wife!