AM and RW ... are we compatible?

[Miri22]

I guess in this circumstance is the issue of whom you invite to your home. My God, I would never invite thieves and people of unjust character. What the hell?

[Ade]

This is America, not Asia. When people dress to come to my home for a wine party I wouldn't dream of asking them to cheapen their look because of my hardwood & stone floors. Honestly, the host is more rude by asking people to do something they aren't comfortable with. And smoking? If its outside who cares?

Norway has "no shoes" etiquette. It's considered incredibly rude not to take your shoes off in someone else's house here and no matter where I lived, no one would enter our house without taking their shoes off in the entrance hall.


And why not? Do you know what you walk on with your shoes and how dirty they are? At best you've probably walked over cat and dog piss. And if you drag that into a home it'll be all over the place eventually, bed included. Just because it's not visibly dirty doesn't make it any less disgusting. We like to walk around the house in socks and bear feet - underfloor heating you know - and the last thing I'd want to think is that I'm walking on 2nd hand dog wee.     Seriously, were you and your guests dragged up with no inkling of what hygiene is? I have a related pet theory and it goes something like this; Western men are always so impressed by FSUW cleanliness, not because those women are particularly clean, but because Western men, American in particular, are exceedingly dirty.




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[Gator]

Miri, meet Donnie Brasco,
 

[nichka]

Gee, let's see.. She's the one who wants to come here to USA for a better life because apparently people in Russia steal shoes at wine parties.

That is  absolutely out of control Miri.  Firs of all I have been living in  USA for the past 10 years. Secondly , ML came up with the possibility of stealing shoes at the parties? What are you talking about????

[nichka]

In Russia they do not steal shoes. They just forget at which party the left them. 

LMAO... that is true

[Boethius]

It is common here to take shoes off as well, as we have 6.5 months of winter/slush.  However, if either I or my husband sense someone is uncomfortable with this, one of us will say "Don't bother taking off your shoes."  There is about a 50/50 chance the shoes will be removed.
 
There are anti bacterial mats one can purchase which kill all bacteria when the soles of the shoes are wiped just once.  The mats do have to be replaced with time.

[Shadow]

I guess in this circumstance is the issue of whom you invite to your home. My God, I would never invite thieves and people of unjust character. What the hell?

Let me tell you I have known thieves that were to be trusted more as 'respectable' people.
And removed their shoes when entering our home. After all they could always find a better pair when going out.

[nichka]

Norway has "no shoes" etiquette. It's considered incredibly rude not to take your shoes off in someone else's house here and no matter where I lived, no one would enter our house without taking their shoes off in the entrance hall.


And why not? Do you know what you walk on with your shoes and how dirty they are? At best you've probably walked over cat and dog piss. And if you drag that into a home it'll be all over the place eventually, bed included. Just because it's not visibly dirty doesn't make it any less disgusting. We like to walk around the house in socks and bear feet - underfloor heating you know - and the last thing I'd want to think is that I'm walking on 2nd hand dog wee.     Seriously, were you and your guests dragged up with no inkling of what hygiene is? I have a related pet theory and it goes something like this; Western men are always so impressed by FSUW cleanliness, not because those women are particularly clean, but because Western men, American in particular, are exceedingly dirty.


Ade, it is increadible  how for some people simple rule of hygene  like take your shoes off when entering home  seems to be too much to ask about.

[Ade]

There are anti bacterial mats one can purchase which kill all bacteria when the soles of the shoes are wiped just once.  The mats do have to be replaced with time.

On ballerina slippers and other smooth soles perhaps.


Seriously, think about it for a minute. And if you walk around the house in slippers and/or unclad feet, really, do you want to be walking where some person has had their "wiped once" piss covered winter shoes (which, by definition, will hardly be flat soled). You understand how bad some men's public toilets are, right?

[Boethius]

I understand that, but some people are hesitant.  I usually mop the floors and vacuum the carpets after they leave. 
 
I'd rather someone be comfortable in my home.
 
I walk around barefoot at home, the kids usually wear socks, hubby always wears slippers.
 
BTW, there is a fair amount of medical research that exposure to pathogens and dirt is better for children, as it builds immunities.  There is a theory that Crohn's disease is caused by a lack of exposure to pathogens in childhood.

[Daveman]

I guess in this circumstance is the issue of whom you invite to your home. My God, I would never invite thieves and people of unjust character. What the hell?

Miri22, ML made the comment of the stolen shoes (certainly with his usual dry humor), not Nichka..   So relax or take a break from the thread for a while.

[happyandstable]

   Sense when did this tread become about shoe hygiene? Nichka do not waste you time or thoughts on people that only want to spread their particular brand of malcontented world view on you ( I do understand the commonsense approach to taking one shoes off before entering the home).Shame on you Miri22 we finally get another female around here that is intelligent and polite and you go all native on her. Back to your original question Nichka I think you are very compatible with AM keep those good post coming! 

[Gator]

And if you walk around the house in slippers and/or unclad feet, really, do you want to be walking where some person has had their "wiped once" piss covered winter shoes (which, by definition, will hardly be flat soled).

Urine is a sterile bodily fluid unless.....

You understand how bad some men's public toilets are, right?

Surely not in Russia because Russians are clean and Americans exceedingly dirty.

 Western men are always so impressed by FSUW cleanliness, not because those women are particularly clean, but because Western men, American in particular, are exceedingly dirty.

I guess you heard this from reliable sources familiar with all categories of  Americans.    Is it true that UK expats, because they are lovers of dogs,  have fleas and intestinal worms?
 

[Shadow]

  Is it true that UK expats, because they are lovers of dogs,  have fleas and intestinal worms?

What I have heard only the ones that live in Korea.

[Ade]

I usually mop the floors and vacuum the carpets after they leave. 
 
I'd rather someone be comfortable in my home.
 
I walk around barefoot at home, the kids usually wear socks, hubby always wears slippers.
 
BTW, there is a fair amount of medical research that exposure to pathogens and dirt is better for children, as it builds immunities.  There is a theory that Crohn's disease is caused by a lack of exposure to pathogens in childhood.

Touché but I think I had my fair share of pathogens as a kid; my parents, working class you know, were typical, wore shoes in the house like an average Yankee. Damn, I ate more than my fair share of dirt and worms too I think.    Not sure if pee, dog or otherwise, would help reduce the likelihood of Crohn's though.


Also, I think people feel uncomfortable here if they see someone with their shoes on in the house when they have none. So, making the majority feel uncomfortable for a very small minority would be just silly. But I understand different strokes for different folks.

[Ade]

There is a theory that Crohn's disease is caused by a lack of exposure to pathogens in childhood.

PS. There are a lot of different theories on what causes Crohn's. It's a real pity that no one can prove any of them conclusively. My theory is that there are probably many possible triggers but the potential is gene based; if you have the right (wrong) gene and you happen to be exposed to the right trigger, you're buggered, as it were.

[nichka]

 
The next interesting fact to me was that AM are used to guess why his woman is upset !  As well as they are kind of shocked when you tell them right away what is wrong.I am used to say straight forward what I don’t like or upset about. I would not say my man:” If you don’t know why I am upset, I am not telling you”. The majority of RW would do the same. I would rather resolve every issue on the spot than hold it inside waiting for the opportunity to explode.  AM, what do you think about this?

[Daveman]

 We like to walk around the house in socks and bear feet ...

Damn, that has to be a real conversation starter there! 

[Boethius]

 

Touché but I think I had my fair share of pathogens as a kid; my parents, working class you know, were typical, wore shoes in the house like an average Yankee. Damn, I ate more than my fair share of dirt and worms too I think

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That part of my post was not directed at you, Ade.  I didn't mean that post as anything more than an interesting (to me, anyway) tidbit of knowledge.  I only know it because my sister does research in that area, and told me, when my kids were little, not to be paranoid about a "sterile" environment.  They each did eat backyard dirt, but, only once.


 
 
 

[Ade]

Damn, that has to be a real conversation starter there! 

Funny thing, I used to have big furry novelty slippers with claws on them.

[Kokopelli]

Do Americans routinely go and steal shoes when attending a house party 

Nah, we look for small "pawnable" items. 
Ooh, look. A Cuisinart.

[Ade]

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That part of my post was not directed at you, Ade.  I didn't mean that post as anything more than an interesting (to me, anyway) tidbit of knowledge.  I only know it because my sister does research in that area, and told me, when my kids were little, not to be paranoid about a "sterile" environment.  They each did eat backyard dirt, but, only once.

Not a problem.


And yes, I know about the dangers of too much hygiene as well. But, I think kids get enough dog pee quota rolling around in the garden without needing it on the floors of the living room.

[Kokopelli]

I understand that, but some people are hesitant.  I usually mop the floors and vacuum the carpets after they leave. 
 
I'd rather someone be comfortable in my home.
 
I walk around barefoot at home, the kids usually wear socks, hubby always wears slippers.
 
BTW, there is a fair amount of medical research that exposure to pathogens and dirt is better for children, as it builds immunities.  There is a theory that Crohn's disease is caused by a lack of exposure to pathogens in childhood.

They also use to play outside; no video games etc.

[Kokopelli]

Your house, your rules.
Unless they have "stinkfoot" or something like that..

[nichka]

Nah, we look for small "pawnable" items. 
Ooh, look. A Cuisinart.

Ahaahahahah