AM and RW ... are we compatible?

[Gylden]

I thought the head / neck adage had a quite different meaning.  You now confuse me.

The neck turns the head and directs what the eyes are seeing.

[Gator]

I thought the head / neck adage had a quite different meaning.  You now confuse me.

My understanding is the same as Nichka's.   The man perceives that he is in control and making the important decisions.   Us men can be easily played at times, sometimes turned into mincemeat.
 
Did you see the Ozzie film Holy Smoke with Kate Winslet and Harvey Kietel? 
 
During a trip to India, Ruth Barron has a spiritual awakening and embraces the teachings of a guru named Baba. Back home in the Sydney suburb of Sans Souci, her parents are appalled to learn their daughter now answers to the name Nazni and has no intention of returning. They concoct a tale about her father Gilbert having had a stroke and being on the verge of death, and her mother Miriam travels to India in hopes of convincing her to come home, with no success until she suffers a serious asthma attack. Ruth agrees to accompany her on her return flight.

Miriam arranges a reunion with Gilbert, who supposedly is recuperating in the Outback, and this charade lands Ruth in the clutches of P.J. Waters, an American exit counselor who deprograms members of religious cults. In a remote cabin, he isolates Ruth, separates her from her sari and religious props, challenges her faith in Baba, and slowly wears her down. As she begins to weaken, Waters finds himself sexually attracted to her, and in time Ruth allows him to seduce her. She then turns the tables on him, as she discovers her sexuality allows her to make mincemeat of his machismo.

[BC]

My understanding is the same as Nichka's.   The man perceives that he is in control and making the important decisions.   Us men can be easily played at times, sometimes turned into mincemeat.
 

The neck turns the head and directs what the eyes are seeing.

Somehow that's not what I read from Nichka's post.

I do want my man to have the last word on everything, though the trick is : " The man is the head, the woman is the neck". Its up to woman how to get what she wants and make man make his own decision for her benefit."

[Gylden]

Well, it's like this (I believe).
If thre neck wants the head to buy clothes instead of a car, the neck points the head at a clothing store and away from the car dealer.

[BC]

Well, it's like this (I believe).
If thre neck wants the head to buy clothes instead of a car, the neck points the head at a clothing store and away from the car dealer.

Yeah that's what I understand also, but the original statement seems a bit ambiguous, even contradicting itself.

[Ranetka]

This is what I have learned: if a woman is not into you, everything that you do will be annoying to her      Has  nothing to do with AM, RW, or any other question of nationality...

   Misha you have never said anything wiser....

[ML]

Quote from: Misha on Today at 08:54:30 AM<blockquote>
This is what I have learned: if a woman is not into you, everything that you do will be annoying to her      Has  nothing to do with AM, RW, or any other question of nationality...
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   Misha you have never said anything wiser....

And doesn't this apply equally in the opposite direction?

[nichka]

I thought the head / neck adage had a quite different meaning.  You now confuse me.

My understanding is the same as Nichka's.   The man perceives that he is in control and making the important decisions.   Us men can be easily played at times, sometimes turned into mincemeat.
 
Did you see the Ozzie film Holy Smoke with Kate Winslet and Harvey Kietel? 
 
During a trip to India, Ruth Barron has a spiritual awakening and embraces the teachings of a guru named Baba. Back home in the Sydney suburb of Sans Souci, her parents are appalled to learn their daughter now answers to the name Nazni and has no intention of returning. They concoct a tale about her father Gilbert having had a stroke and being on the verge of death, and her mother Miriam travels to India in hopes of convincing her to come home, with no success until she suffers a serious asthma attack. Ruth agrees to accompany her on her return flight.

Miriam arranges a reunion with Gilbert, who supposedly is recuperating in the Outback, and this charade lands Ruth in the clutches of P.J. Waters, an American exit counselor who deprograms members of religious cults. In a remote cabin, he isolates Ruth, separates her from her sari and religious props, challenges her faith in Baba, and slowly wears her down. As she begins to weaken, Waters finds himself sexually attracted to her, and in time Ruth allows him to seduce her. She then turns the tables on him, as she discovers her sexuality allows her to make mincemeat of his machismo.

That is exactly how I think and what I mean with the head/neck stuff

[BC]

That is exactly how I think and what I mean with the head/neck stuff

Ahh, understand now.... surely that was pretty early on in the relationship?

[nichka]

 How often you guys getting confused  with your RW during dating stage ... Today she  seems to be all over me, she really likes me , and tomorrow she acts distant , responds to text msg within hours etc.  These are the games we like to play with you,...just to see how you are going to react , along with analyzing your methods of " approaching us , and getting what you want"
All thoughts and life experiences will be appreciated 

[SANDRO43]

These are the games we like to play with you...just to see how you are going to react, along with analyzing your methods of " approaching us, and getting what you want"

Sounds like skill in this might be a first form of training :

Or maybe this would be more adequate for the task ?

[OlgaH]

I'm not an adherent of dating games like "you call I-don't answer, you are here-I'm not"  But I don't mind playing chess or backgammon having a glass of wine or cup of tea and free and easy conversation.

[calmissile]

How often you guys getting confused  with your RW during dating stage ... Today she  seems to be all over me, she really likes me , and tomorrow she acts distant , responds to text msg within hours etc.  These are the games we like to play with you,...just to see how you are going to react , along with analyzing your methods of " approaching us , and getting what you want"

Please write a book  on this.    Most WM I know don't like to play these games.  It is one of the reasons to look elsewhere for a wife.  AW are very good at playing games, but I am not sure the games or the rules are the same.   

[alyosha]

I would take it as a warm from you Belvis.
But to be serious, I honestly think that Russian Women are complex with their moods, beliefs, games, views on this world, along with the different idea of " being happy"

You could delete the word "Russian" in that kid. 

[alyosha]

This is what I have learned: if a woman is not into you, everything that you do will be annoying to her    If you say yes, you will be a "Yes" man to this woman, if you say no, you will be the tyrant    It will be a no-win situation no matter what you do. Has  nothing to do with AM, RW, or any other question of nationality...

In America there is a saying, "A man chases a woman until she catches him."

[TomT]

These are the games we like to play with you,...just to see how you are going to react , along with analyzing your methods of " approaching us , and getting what you want"

Unfortunately, this is precisely how sociopaths treat their victims: alternating, addictive cycles of affection and abuse which are continually being fine-tuned to achieve the desired results.
 

[Patagonie]

Unfortunately, this is precisely how sociopaths treat their victims: alternating, addictive cycles of affection and abuse which are continually being fine-tuned to achieve the desired results.

"These are the games we like to play with you,...just to see how you are going to react , along with analyzing your methods of " approaching us , and getting what you want"

As women are largely  in this demeanor during the firsts dates with a man, i think that you might need a whole army of therapist in every country.
You have the incredible chance here to have valuable and smart FSU women who are capable to explain with no bullshit how they react (which is impossible to know with an western women as they don't say what they think and don't think what they tell you). Rather than to septic enjoy the treasure they are delivering you.

[TomT]

Rather than to septic enjoy the treasure they are delivering you.

You are very unintentionally funny.

[cteas]

This is a rediculous and loaded question. The Russians who don't want their countrymen to go west. Always say "no" they don't mix. People from this country that don't want to AM bringing foreigners to this country all say "no" as well. The plain fact is that ANY relationship is "oil & water". Otherwise, we would have married the first or second person we ever dated. I don't know about you, but 99.9% of the women I have dated didn't work out. The only way it may be less is if you are currently married. If you are fortunate, you will stay with that person for the rest of your life. The most important thing is that you are ready for the forever relationship, and you are going to commied to it. Even then, there are no gurantees. It doesn't matter where the two people are from, it just matters how bad they want it. I am sorry if I sound condescending, but that is my opinion. It is like butt holes, everybody has one. One piece of evidence I will use to back it up is the success rate of relationships between Asian women and almost any other man. They are from extremely different cultures, but they seem to last. The best question to ask is "can two people have a lasting and happy relationship, and what makes it work?".

[ML]

One piece of evidence I will use to back it up is the success rate of relationships between Asian women and almost any other man. They are from extremely different cultures, but they seem to last.

Two questions:

1. Is this true?
2. Why causes it to be true?

[Eduard]

Here's my 2C.
Remember Marty who posted his TR on this or the other forum last fall? He's been married since last October. I talked to his wife a little while ago and one thing she told me was: "I feel like I've known him all my life". Very telling IMO. They are trying for a baby now. Are they compatible? I'd say yes.
Remember Catman? He emailed me a couple of weeks ago informing me that they are very happy and are expecting a baby boy in January 2013. Are they compatible? I'd say yes! I know quite a few other couples who aren't members on these fora who are happily married where a man is American or Canadian and the woman is from the FSU.
Do I think that every FSU woman is compatible with every WM? It's a NO. But then who would think that all WM and WW are compatible with each other or all FSU men and FSU women are compatible with one another? Compatibility can be established strictly on an individual basis IMO. 

[Jersey Guy]

Now this oughtta get good in a hurry! 


Welcome Nichka, glad you found your love.  Wherever with whomever.


As to the topic heading... nah... they're not really compatible..      but pretty darn good together in bed.. so it's a decent trade off..     The rest is just fluff anyway ... used for the sole purpose of getting back into the bed..

As shallow as this statment is there is not a thing I disagree with. I just got started on this thread so it will take awhile to catch up. I'm here to learn, and share.

[Doll]

Ed, invidually, yes- some RW and some AM are compatible. In my opinion though RW in general and AM in general are not. I am talking of mentality.

[Jersey Guy]

In my short experience with a RW, only 10 months so far. Yes, they do play some mental games that I'm just starting to learn and get used to. But, they also have a general female characteristic. They think they know everything. It reminds me of an old advertisement in a local paper. "For Sale:Entire set of encyclopedias..no longer needed...wife knows everything." 

[Jumper]

Ed, invidually, yes- some RW and some AM are compatible. In my opinion though RW in general and AM in general are not. I am talking of mentality.

Doll
Can you define the actual differences in mentality that make you think that?


That should be invaluable to those looking from both sides ? right?