I'll give you guys some feedback based on what I experienced in russia

[calmissile]

American Boy,

As others have advised you, don't get discouraged by a few old timers that challenge you on everything.  Just put them on ignore.
These same guys that claim to be "happily married" seem to have nothing better to do than read and post on forums all day.  Also understand, that the forum probably does not represent a cross section of those that are "happily married" to FSU women.  From the married ones I talk to off line, once they are married they have no time or interest in lurking or posting on forums.

There is also a large generational gap.  The older folks tend to become more judgemental of the younger generations.  I think it is just nature and always has been that way.

I don't doubt your story either.  On another venue we used to get day by day reports of the exploits of young men in FSU and the trip reports were very similar.
You should understand however, that bragging about your exploits are offensive to some people and may be the reason you are being challenged so much.

[AmericanBoy]

I'm sure most of AB's supporters consider me as one of his skeptics.  This post just reinforces my skepticism.  Why would a foreigner take a planned trip to Tyumen, Russia for medical treatment, bypassing undoubtedly better hospitals in Moscow, St. Pete, Yekaterinburg and probably several other cities?

A foreigner with no connection to Russia, who speaks no Russian.  Really this is absurd. My wife knows of no reason why a hospital in Tyumen would be preferable to a hospital in Moscow or to any competent hospital in the US.  Perhaps someone from that part of Russia could help?  Are the doctors and hospitals that much better in Tyumen?  Is Tyumen known for medical tourism? 

 

again, you read only what you want. Did you miss the part where I said I blocked out my final destination??? I'll upload some videos that will hopefully shut you up

[acctBill]

I do, because I suspect I know the type of medical procedure AB had done.  Not absurd if you know this (and I think my speculation is correct).

And Tyumen is the best place in the world to have this medical procedure done?  It must be quite a secret Google doesn't turn up anything. 

[acctBill]

again, you read only what you want. Did you miss the part where I said I blocked out my final destination??? I'll upload some videos that will hopefully shut you up

I think I know what the medical problem is, high blood pressure.   

[Boethius]

And Tyumen is the best place in the world to have this medical procedure done?  It must be quite a secret Google doesn't turn up anything.

It's not everyday information, but certainly not secret.  Not sure if it's done in Tyumen, I'd have to ask.  I just know it is performed in Siberia.  I know about it because I have relatives in the medical profession.

[acctBill]

It's not everyday information, but certainly not secret.  Not sure if it's done in Tyumen, I'd have to ask.  I just know it is performer in Siberia.  I know about it because I have relatives in the medical profession.

And this procedure isn't performed in the US, UK, Canada or Europe?  Or is this a case of an American with no health insurance shopping for a cheaper alternative?

[calmissile]

Are we now stooping so low as to start speculating on someones medical treatment when he previously indicated he did not want to discuss?

[acctBill]

Are we now stooping so low as to start speculating on someones medical treatment when he previously indicated he did not want to discuss?

He felt perfectly comfortable saying that Russian girls and women were falling all over him to have sex with him.  And he was having all this sex while he had a girl friend back home.  He seems to be a pretty open guy I'm sure he doesn't mind revealing personal details. 

[AmericanBoy]

The first video is in the hospital, the second video is after I returned home. It's skype video with me and the girl from the picture a few pages back.  Messed up on translations should have been 3 days not weeks but you can here her talking about giving me an injection.

[AmericanBoy]

He felt perfectly comfortable saying that Russian girls and women were falling all over him to have sex with him.  And he was having all this sex while he had a girl friend back home.  He seems to be a pretty open guy I'm sure he doesn't mind revealing personal details.

It's irrelevant to to this thread and wont prove anything. You saw my invitation & I've given you about as much info as possible. You will never believe me. As I said, just move on. I don't even know why I continue to feed you.

[calmissile]

AB,

This might help you out.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14610.0

[AmericanBoy]

I'll hold off for now on blocking people. We'll see how I do around here after this thread cools off. I have no clue why this guy is so adament about trying to prove me wrong. It's pure comedy to me. He tried to poke holes in my story, once I gave proof his next argument is "how likely is it?" Who cares how likely it is?, it is what it is.

heres another video. This was is actually in the hospital. Middle of march last year.

[Globetrotter]

AB..........I don't understsand why you are here!  Are you here to tell us of your sexual exploits?  Actually, anybody who goes there can do what you have done...and probably do it better, and nobody cares. 
 
Most who post here tell of good things that have happened to them, and tell this story, while you tell of sex.  While you talk of age, I would think of more than age as a thought,  think more of experience. 
 
I have been drilled so many times by Dave......I am amazed you have not been also.
 
Look, all enjoy stories, and I'm sure many appreciate yours.  Just tell something useful, and you will be appreciated!
 
 
 
 

[AmericanBoy]

The only people that are complaining are the guys old enough to be grandpas. I've gotten a ton of PM's from guys saying don't worry about you guys, its common.

As I said I have a long list of stories if I wanted to brag or boost my own ego. If you can't see my purpose even though I've stated it over and over, then don't worry about it and don't come in the thread. Here's a little piece of advice for you guys. There's no effort in not replying and you don't have to read what I write.

[GQBlues]

.....Here's the convo from me and the girl who I told it to, this proves my story in a sense. Reads from top to bottom and it's near the top where we talk about it. Feeding you is entertaining... what next???

That's crass, man. Why give a rat's arse?

You keep posting private conversations (that's low and you should stop doing that) as though explaining and showing things to stiffs who couldn't possibly imagine your world, let alone live it, is somehow going to make your day 'better' and 'credible'...These are the same guys who sit in groups in  every corner of every social venue sucking bottles of beers all night leering at every gal they see and proclaim how they can have her/them anytime they want. Only if they want - from their cozy little corners. Then goes home alone.

So face it. Nothing you do, even if they see you doing what you have said you've done *isn't going to earn you your brownie points*.

THAT is, and never was, the point with these folks, man. You need to learn see through that.

Leave them alone in their world and live in your own. Read Konfusus' last sentence in his lone post to you.

Unless of course, aside from your charming self, attention whore comes along with the package(?) So just chill. You already got into their heads, leave it there.

Lastly, unless those gals knew you'd be posting their images on the 'net, think of taking that down. That's just uncool.

[acctBill]

The only people that are complaining are the guys old enough to be grandpas. I've gotten a ton of PM's from guys saying don't worry about you guys, its common.

As I said I have a long list of stories if I wanted to brag or boost my own ego. If you can't see my purpose even though I've stated it over and over, then don't worry about it and don't come in the thread. Here's a little piece of advice for you guys. There's no effort in not replying and you don't have to read what I write.

Ok post slowly maybe I'll understand, I'm only a father not a grandfather.  You had lots of sex in Russia while your girlfriend was back home, not uncommon.  Most everyone here will tell you that's not really big news.  You had some type of medical procedure done in Tyumen for some reason that you don't want to talk about. OK, got that. What does that leave?

You were only in two cities but we can always use more info on Moscow and Tyumen.  Did you visit the Kremlin?  Did you have a meal at the first McDonald's in Russia? If you're not going to post more info about Russia and your impressions of it, which you really haven't done, the purpose of your thread isn't obvious.   

[AmericanBoy]

That's crass, man. Why give a rat's arse?

You keep posting private conversations (that's low and you should stop doing that) as though explaining and showing things to stiffs who couldn't possibly imagine your world, let alone live it, is somehow going to make your day 'better' and 'credible'...These are the same guys who sit in groups in  every corner of every social venue sucking bottles of beers all night leering at every gal they see and proclaim how they can have her/them anytime they want. Only if they want - from their cozy little corners. Then goes home alone.

So face it. Nothing you do, even if they see you doing what you have said you've done *isn't going to earn you your brownie points*.

THAT is, and never was, the point with these folks, man. You need to learn see through that.

Leave them alone in their world and live in your own. Read Konfusus' last sentence in his lone post to you.

Unless of course, aside from your charming self, attention whore comes along with the package(?) So just chill. You already got into their heads, leave it there.

Lastly, unless those gals knew you'd be posting their images on the 'net, think of taking that down. That's just uncool.

You know, I think you're right. My biggest pet peeve is liars and I guess I got caught up in the whole mess trying to prove I wasn't lying. For what reason, I'm not sure.

The girls know. I have a diary of my experience online with tons and tons of pictures and probably 25 videos, though most of that is more relevant to my procedure.

and bill. This isnt a trip report. I wasn't sharing my "trip" with you guys. As I've said I was here to give you guys my view on russian women, at least the ones I encountered. The whole thread got derailed by you guys picking small details out to try and disprove my story.

[acctBill]

You know, I think you're right. My biggest pet peeve is liars and I guess I got caught up in the whole mess trying to prove I wasn't lying. For what reason, I'm not sure.

The girls know. I have a diary of my experience online with tons and tons of pictures and probably 25 videos, though most of that is more relevant to my procedure.

and bill. This isnt a trip report. I wasn't sharing my "trip" with you guys. As I've said I was here to give you guys my view on russian women, at least the ones I encountered. The whole thread got derailed by you guys picking small details out to try and disprove my story.

Unfortunately AB you came across as a womanizer at best and a sex tourist at worst.  Several places in the FSU have a problem with sex tourism. As others have pointed out many of us are married to RW and those of us who have family there, especially young girls and women really don't appreciate such comments. You could have been more general in references to your 'dates' and perhaps thrown in a few photos or comments about local landmarks.

There's an endless number of photos and comments about RW and FSUW in general on RWD so it's not there we're against such things, it's just that many of us believe you could have been more discreet in your comments about the women you met.  As for you medical treatment, if Boethius says it's true I'm willing to believe it. 

[Patagonie]

American Boy,

As others have advised you, don't get discouraged by a few old timers that challenge you on everything.  Just put them on ignore.
These same guys that claim to be "happily married" seem to have nothing better to do than read and post on forums all day.  Also understand, that the forum probably does not represent a cross section of those that are "happily married" to FSU women.  From the married ones I talk to off line, once they are married they have no time or interest in lurking or posting on forums.

There is also a large generational gap.  The older folks tend to become more judgemental of the younger generations.  I think it is just nature and always has been that way.

I don't doubt your story either.  On another venue we used to get day by day reports of the exploits of young men in FSU and the trip reports were very similar.
You should understand however, that bragging about your exploits are offensive to some people and may be the reason you are being challenged so much.

Well said CallMissile

[Ade]

Unfortunately AB you came across as a womanizer at best and a sex tourist at worst.  Several places in the FSU have a problem with sex tourism. As others have pointed out many of us are married to RW and those of us who have family there, especially young girls and women really don't appreciate such comments. You could have been more general in references to your 'dates' and perhaps thrown in a few photos or comments about local landmarks.

There's an endless number of photos and comments about RW and FSUW in general on RWD so it's not there we're against such things, it's just that many of us believe you could have been more discreet in your comments about the women you met.  As for you medical treatment, if Boethius says it's true I'm willing to believe it.

Come on, give the guy a break, he is just a kid or near as damn it. Yes, I think he's a little off in his generalisations, and yes, a little explicit but this should just highlight his age in comparison to most of the old farts here. Try to view his posts in the context of his stay in Russia rather than trying to see it through the eyes of a MOB seeker.

[AmericanBoy]

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[AmericanBoy]

^^^ my first critique has come back to defend me  =D spacibo

@ bill

The honest truth is, I'm the furthest thing from a womanizer. I fought off these girls when I first got there because of my relationship at home.  In my opinion I really am a good boy. I was with my gf for 9 years, who was my high school sweetheart and my eyes only saw her. I remember the first day I arrived,  this little russian barbi introduced herself to me when were were eating. I went out of the stalova to talk to my doctor and she walked by smiling all flirty. He asked me " you alone?" his english wasn't perfect so I didn't understand and said "huh?" he said "she alone, maybe you guys together".  It was shocking to hear that come from the chief of my department but I told him I had a gf at home. From then on that girl would always flirt, and I enjoyed it, but thats all it was, just flirting. Eventually i figured out how these girls operated and what I'd need to say or how to flirt to make them like me & it almost became a game where I'd set a goal on who I wanted to like me, once I knew she liked me I was off to the next. I don't know if it was the atmosphere in the hospital that made people weak, or what but these girls would give me their hearts so fast.


Later my gf and I started running into issues and started fighting. I was amazed, I thought english was a very universal language, but its not, not even in the airport. Everyone loved me but I still felt very alone, no real way to bond with anyone because nobody spoke my language. Then this little russian angel who was only suppose to be my friend came along, I needed her love and regretfully it developed into something more.  After I went home for visa problems, me and my gf split and I was with the Russian girl  for 6 months. Again, my eyes only saw her.  We were somewhat long distance, but I never cheated on her. We'd get drunk in the hospital all the time and girls would always come onto me but I never thought about it. After me and the russian gf split, I really really tried to avoid girls. My goal was to hurry up and get home to try and repair my relationship.. The girl in the pink really liked me a lot but she was just a bond for me because she spoke English. Then the girl lena came along and I needed her. I didn't even meet her when I was in the hospital,  but after we met she instantly started taking care of me (calling taxis, order me food,  basically anything I needed she did it) then she started started saying those 3 little words and talking about love blah blah blah and again the friendship bond went a little too far.

2011 is a year I'll never forget but honestly,  if I had one wish, it would be to have never gone to russia

[Darth_Budda]

I think they just wish they were 27 again.
Some of them sound a little jealous.

This is just how the hook up culture works in america or Russia.
It's exactly how it works in my town. Only thing being is my town is rather small
so you see the same women at the bars every week. You also get to see these same women get passed around the town. It's kinda funny...

It's called radical feminism...
They think it's okay to act like the worst of men did in times gone bye.
Cheat on their husbands and play the game of "one up."
Instead of working on the relationship, they have just look for the next best thing.

Ever wounder how the bar/night club seen worked?
This is it..

his accounts sound more realistic than many I have heard.

Women are women the world around. No mater what language they speak.

Why are you surprised that a generation that has grown up under capitalism would act the same way as the generation in the USA that has grown up under the same system.

[Belvis]

Short comments.
About russian taxi drivers who refused to take money. Probably they are not taxi drivers but just drivers who give AB a short ride. Sometimes I do the same thing.
In the case if AB don't know why he was called American Boy by girls: this is a popular song from 1990s.

[Ade]

^^^ my first critique has come back to defend me  =D spacibo

Well, my criticism was mainly driven by your generalization that all Russian women behaved this way, which is not the case as evidenced by numerous experiences of others. That doesn't negate your experiences, it just shows that we all have different experiences of a wide variety of complementary life that exists everywhere. Even when people experience exactly the same thing they will often give different and even conflicting accounts of it as coloured by their own perceptions and biases. That's why I said that I don't doubt you experienced what you said, just your interpretation.


FWIW, I agree that the posting of personal conversations is really not cool and I'd suggest that you take them down if you can or ask the mods to do it if the edit option has expired on your posts.