I'll give you guys some feedback based on what I experienced in russia

[LiveFromUkraine]

According to Russian statistics from 60% to 80% initiators of divorce are women in Russia.

Numbers seem similar to US divorce filings. 

[GQBlues]

I'm not sure where I heard it or where I read it, but RU natives can cite if there's any validity to this...

RMs cannot file for a divorce during the 9 months of a woman's pregnancy up to a year of the child's birth.

Assumption can then be drawn it doesn't apply to women...

That's almost a two-year moratorium for men. Any truth to this?

[LAman]

According to Russian statistics from 60% to 80% initiators of divorce are women in Russia.

From what i have read, those statistics apply in USA and also divorces from international marriages. Where a women is protected by the laws.....
Why would a women initiate a divorce in russia or ukraine....what would she get? Alimony? Child support? I have heard of many men that aren't very responsible...if I am correct? More likely, a women would become single mother providing solely for her children. I don't know if anyone else has seen this often too.

[ECOCKS]

Yes I've seen that many times and when I do see it, usually I feel compelled to state what "I" know about the RM I know personally. Which is 180 opposite of those claims. I know personally and very well through the wife's family and friendships of my own, probably a dozen Russian men. All are stand up guys who love their families, want the best and as far as I can tell love and cherish their wives. A couple of them drink much too often but, I know quite a few AM that do just as much. I even imbibe on occasion myself.  In any event, it gets boring and repetitious and I usually don't bother anymore.

Maybe you understand or maybe you don't but, many of the men that come to forums under the pretense of seeking information, aren't seeking information at all. They only seek validation to the myth and their own fantasies. Looking for reasons other than themselves for their own social ineptness. Blaming Western women and FSUM is usually the quickest validation they find. IMHO

+1

[Ranetka]

I'm not sure where I heard it or where I read it, but RU natives can cite if there's any validity to this...

RMs cannot file for a divorce during the 9 months of a woman's pregnancy up to a year of the child's birth.

Assumption can then be drawn it doesn't apply to women...

That's almost a two-year moratorium for men. Any truth to this?

yes, this infp is correct

[Muzh]

I have no issues communicating or meeting girls in real life and that followed me right into russia. I'm not and wasn't in the search for a bride. I came to this site to offer my opinion and I gave it. I think my views are valuable being that this wasn't some "make believe/forced love story" where I was trying to give a good impression to people and/or vise versa. The people I met and saw were not from a dating site/agency and were not seeking marriage. They were everyday people behaving as every day people with no agenda in mind. I will say this, if I was looking for a RW I would consider this thread very useful. I would absolute 100% take my own advice. I never ever ever had any trust issues before Russia, never cheated on a girl and never had been cheated on (as far as I know). I know there's a lot of cheating everywhere but what I saw there is crazy

Mr. Boy. (This sounds stupid but what the hell)

Somewhere along the line you went from giving your opinion (there's nothing wrong with that) to considering your experiences in Russia as offering advice, specifically to a group where the majority has nothing in common with you. Your story was more a propos for a blog shared by a younger generation looking for adventures, not marriage.

And also, I see a Russian National and an American who has lived in Russia for a number of years take issue with your "advice."

This is the basic issue here.

Now, you say the following;

I do have a lot to learn in life, I'm young. I live and act young and I'm proud of it.

This is more than obvious. As you mature you will learn (I hope) the term discretion and and how to apply it to what you say. You didn't do that here and people took exception to your juvenile rants (and this is said not as an insult but as a reality from someone who can be your father).

Bottom line is that your intent was good but the delivery and the audience were the wrong ones.

Take it for what it is, but don't take it as an insult.

[Gator]

Muzh, it is obvious that you are a good father to your children.

[GQBlues]

yes, this infp is correct

Thank you Ranetka! 

[happyandstable]

I always had a favorite girl who I'd try to make like me and once she did I would figure out a new one.  Lena was the goal for like a month. Honestly, I saw her as a challenge, she's not my type at all, I like pretty but really simple girls with a good heart. She's really pretty with an amazing body and I thought she'd be one of the girls with their nose really high in. Once I got to know her I saw what a great heart she had, i think that's what made us bond so well.
....
As for being mean to her. I wasn't an asshole. I'm a guy that needs lots of love, so sometimes I was selfish about things but she said she loved it and if I was nice or a pushover she wouldn't have loved me as much. She told she wants to treat her husband as if its her baby.

   This is a textbook example of behavior that would be classified as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just because someone can do a thing does not mean they should. Let alone not even bothering to think about how their own actions might affect another. Just because someone is viewed as a challenge is no reason to not see that they where there for treatment of the psychological distress they where having in life. To take advantage of such an individual just for the thrill of the conquest is less then admirable.

[OlgaH]

From what i have read, those statistics apply in USA and also divorces from international marriages. Where a women is protected by the laws.....
Why would a women initiate a divorce in russia or ukraine....what would she get? Alimony? Child support? I have heard of many men that aren't very responsible...if I am correct? More likely, a women would become single mother providing solely for her children. I don't know if anyone else has seen this often too.

THE FAMILY CODE OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Chapter 14. The Alimony Obligations of Spouses and of Ex-Spouses
http://www.jafbase.fr/docEstEurope/RussianFamilyCode1995.pdf



THE CRIMINAL CODE OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Article 157. Malicious Evasion of the Payment of Money for the Maintenance of Children or Physically Disabled Parents
1. Malicious evasion by a parent of court-ordered child support for minors, or for disabled children who have attained 18 years of age, shall be punishable by compulsory works for a term of 120 to 180 hours, or by corrective labour for a term of up to one year, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.
2. Malicious evasion by able-bodied children of age of the payment of money, pursant to a court decision for the maintenance of physically disabled parents,
 shall be punishable by compulsory works for a term of 120 to 180 hours, or by corrective labour for a term of up to one year, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.

[Gator]

   This is a textbook example of behavior that would be classified as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just because someone can do a thing does not mean they should. Let alone not even bothering to think about how their own actions might affect another. Just because someone is viewed as a challenge is no reason to not see that they where there for treatment of the psychological distress they where having in life. To take advantage of such an individual just for the thrill of the conquest is less then admirable.

Please give AB a break.  He is only 27 and he is still discovering the world and life.   God is not yet finished with him.  I should know as my younger son is exactly 27.   He and his older brother have done worse and learned from it.  So will AB.
 
I believe we should look at the positive aspects of AB's posts.  He has prompted much discussion, many of his points are valid, and he has entertained us.  If not better than most, it's close and certainly good enough in my book.

[Gator]

Regarding who files in Russia for divorce, is there an incentive or disincentive?   It seems to me that it matters little to the man whether he is divorced or separated.

[mies]

He is only 27 and he is still discovering the world and life.   God is not yet finished with him.  I should know as my younger son is exactly 27.   He and his older brother have done worse and learned from it.  So will AB.
 
I believe we should look at the positive aspects of AB's posts.  He has prompted much discussion, many of his points are valid, and he has entertained us.  If not better than most, it's close and certainly good enough in my book.

agree fully.
AB, please don't take my comments as insults.

[GQBlues]

   This is a textbook example of behavior that would be classified as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just because someone can do a thing does not mean they should. Let alone not even bothering to think about how their own actions might affect another. Just because someone is viewed as a challenge is no reason to not see that they where there for treatment of the psychological distress they where having in life. To take advantage of such an individual just for the thrill of the conquest is less then admirable.

Here's a mirror.

Now raise it up higher, higher, a little more. Now hold it, hold it, hold it...there! Is it clearer now?

Your handle is an oxymoron.

[happyandstable]

Please give AB a break.  He is only 27 and he is still discovering the world and life.   God is not yet finished with him.  I should know as my younger son is exactly 27.   He and his older brother have done worse and learned from it.  So will AB.
 
I believe we should look at the positive aspects of AB's posts.  He has prompted much discussion, many of his points are valid, and he has entertained us.  If not better than most, it's close and certainly good enough in my book.

        Guess that is the difference between fathers of sons and fathers of daughters. There is nothing I find acceptable with young men who think women are just there for their pleasure.

   @GQBlues the mirror is facing in the wrong direction bud.

[Muzh]

Your handle is an oxymoron.

 

I thought about making the same comment some time ago but wanted to avoid a flame war. Oh, what the hell. It has been said. 

[Daveman]

To Mies:

You said Urkainian men cheat in what I already quoted

"many divorces that you quote as statistics aren't initiated by women - they are initiated by men, and not because their wives were cheating, but because men had affairs"

Those bastards!!

According to Russian statistics from 60% to 80% initiators of divorce are women in Russia.

Those ungrateful b...er... wenches!!!

[Eduard]

Why would a women initiate a divorce in russia or ukraine....what would she get? Alimony? Child support?

How about her pride, self respect?

[LAman]

How about her pride, self respect?

Or is security for her and child/children most important? Do you know? It is tough decision....

[mendeleyev]

AB,

Yesterday (Wednesday) was the occasion of President Medvedev's final address to the Federal Council and the Executive. As much of that speech has been posted both at the Mendeleyev Journal and here in the Culture section, I won't post the entire address.

But as the President did speak about issues of health care in his talk, I wish that you could have been there. It is a spellbinding experience to stand in the Saint George Hall of the Kremlin Grand Palace. The Saint George is the largest and most important of the halls of this grand palace, which is one of the most imposing features of the Kremlin as you travel adjacent to the Moskva River. It was in this hall that Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan met with Mikhail Gorbachev. Later George HW Bush and then William Jefferson Clinton would meet with Boris Yeltson, George W Bush with Vladimir Putin and Barrack Obama with Mr. Medvedev, each American president standing in that grand hall as well.

The Kremlin Palace is that large building to the left, with a green roof. It is inside the Kremlin walls and where most important diplomatic and domestic events are conducted.


       
Inside the Saint George Hall...


(President Medvedev speaking to the Federal Council, Saint George Hall, Kremlin Grand Palace.)

Let me tell you about this hall. In Russian it is called the "Georgievsky" and it is dedicated to the highest Russian military honor. The names of regiments, naval crews, batteries and more than 10,000 officers and generals awarded the Order of St. George the Victorious (Moscow's patron Saint) are engraved in gold on the marble plaques in the hall. It is the biggest and grandest of the five ceremonial halls of the palace.

Of course there were pretty gals there yesterday (I think all RW are pretty in their own way), some of them servers and hostesses, but my guess is that you'd probably relate to the Kremlin Regiment, young men your age and younger, who have the dual responsibilities of providing the look and feel of the palace pomp and circumstance, all the while protecting the President when he is on the Kremlin territory. They're attractive young men but each has a military background and FSB (KGB) service training. There are two of these young men standing at attention next to a gold crested doorway in the photo below.



At two separate points in his speech Mr. Medvedev spoke of improvements to health care: We have found the resources recently to begin to significantly increase the incomes of those professionals on whom our lives and our future depend the most: doctors and teachers. If they are poor, then society is also doomed to poverty. It is difficult to demand professionalism and efficiency from the people whose opportunities are limited by humiliating poverty. Overall, the average incomes of doctors and teachers have reached the average for the economy. That is a good result but we must go further, and I have no doubt that this will be done.

And again: We are faced with another, more serious challenge: how to simultaneously tackle poverty and create opportunities to improve the quality of life for the people who already have average-level incomes? We have no right to forget about them either. Those who are already investing their money in the education of their children, in improving their own skills, spending it to obtain better health services, to address their housing issues and build their own businesses, such investment in the quality of life should become cheaper and more accessible. I am talking about expanding opportunities for continuing education, radically increasing the effectiveness of voluntary health and pension insurance, making mortgage cheaper and developing mass-market rental housing, so that at least a third of our citizens have the opportunity to acquire housing using their own savings and taking out mortgage loans, as well as benefiting from state support.

I'll burden you with one more question: As a former patient in a Russian hospital, what are your thoughts in regards to Mr. Medvedev's comments about the future of health care in Russia?

PS...here is a little trivia for you: on 7 May, Vladimir Putin will return as President of the Russian Federation. He'll proceed thru this Saint George Hall (and return there later) but he'll walk in a procession to the Saint Andrew Hall. The St. Andrew's Hall was named in honor of the Order of Saint Andrew instituted by Emperor Peter I on 10 March 1698. It is the throne room where still today there is the royal throne of Russia and the walls carry the motto "For Faith and Fidelity." It is there in the slightly smaller Saint Andrew Hall that the head of the Constitutional Court will meet Mr. Putin beside the throne for swearing-in as president.

Of course Russians put their pants on like the rest of us, one pant leg at a time. However I hope that you will come to realize that there is so much rich history and depth to Russia as a great nation and to Russians as a great people.

Sincerely,

Mendeleyev

[BC]

Please give AB a break.  He is only 27 and he is still discovering the world and life.   God is not yet finished with him.  I should know as my younger son is exactly 27.   He and his older brother have done worse and learned from it.  So will AB.
 
I believe we should look at the positive aspects of AB's posts.  He has prompted much discussion, many of his points are valid, and he has entertained us.  If not better than most, it's close and certainly good enough in my book.

Hard to disagree with.

Another aspect is hospital stays..  Have had only a couple short stints (ptfu  ptfu ptfu) in that environment but all in all it's a very boring place to be.  I can only imagine much longer stays such as that AB endured.  Interesting contact and interaction with just about anyone would be amplified quite a bit with too much time to reverberate between the ears not to mention high testosterone levels.

[OlgaH]

But as the President did speak about issues of health care in his talk

all these talks have been going for years... bla bla bla 

it is enough just to look at the RF budget assessment on the Ministry of Finances website to see where all the money goes... and why there just pennies left for orphans and disabled people while the Army of bureaucrats bred by Putin and Medvedev as well are getting "fat" and and spend millions of the State budget money on the most expensive cars they can get and so on.

[AmericanBoy]

Haven't forgotten about you mendeleyev. I plan to get to your questions this weekend =)

I shared the flat with probably 10 different girls. One one was there the whole time, then others would come and go. Their room had 3 beds in it and was typically full. These 2 were part of the first group of girls when I moved in.

heres another video though. This one is funny. This was after one of the nights where I got super drunk at the club and the next day had the worst hang over of my life, I think it took 3 days to completely recovery. These ladies wanted me to drink with them and at first I told them no, they kept bugging so I said later. I thought I was clever, and waited for the bottle to be almost finished before taking my shot.  Little did I know, they had TWO bottles! They pretty much finished up the bottle alone minus one shot that went to me, this is on the second bottle and the lady thats pouring it forgot to take off the cap at first, then she poured the other ladies shot glass all the way to the brim. I really wished I had take more videos of the crazy druken nights I had with some of the ladies that lived in my flat!

[Patagonie]

Please give AB a break.  He is only 27 and he is still discovering the world and life.   God is not yet finished with him.  I should know as my younger son is exactly 27.   He and his older brother have done worse and learned from it.  So will AB.
 
I believe we should look at the positive aspects of AB's posts.  He has prompted much discussion, many of his points are valid, and he has entertained us.  If not better than most, it's close and certainly good enough in my book.

Yes +1 let this guy expressing himself with his own understanding of the world, it is refreshing, why older generations mustn't make a step towards him ? We should do, please everybody, more tolerance towards him. The world is moving, listen him.

[Eduard]

Is this not the opinion of one woman?  Perhaps that is her perception (and perhaps representative of her specific peer group), but I tend to put more faith into the Law of Parsimony... which is that, she's lonely, hasn't had the best of luck, and begins to write about "all RM" similarly to the way AM tend to write about all AW. 


I could, of course, be mistaken... there is always a first time for everything! 

Just came across a mamba profile with similar message... is this perception or reality for RW?

 Кого я хочу найти:

• Мужчина! Если тебе за 30, а ты живой, здоровый и практически трезвый знай и гордись - ТЫ ДЕФИЦИТ!
  
  Мужчину красивого, умного, щедрого, доброго, нежного, непьющего, не гулящего... хочется хотя бы просто увидеть)
• Who would I like to find:
• Mister! If you are over 30 but still alive, healthy and almost sober, you should know that you are a rare breed! You should be proud of yourself!
• I'm looking for a handsome, not a penny pincher, kind, tender, doesn't drink, doesn't cheat... I would just like to know if some one like that exists ))