I'll give you guys some feedback based on what I experienced in russia

[LAman]

GQ...isn't waaay past your bedtime???

[GQBlues]

GQ...isn't waaay past your bedtime???

OK, nitey-nite then... 

[calmissile]

GQ...isn't waaay past your bedtime???

Me too!  I am hoping that AB answers Mendy's questions.  I think many of us are interested in the answers, if nothing else for academic interst.  There are also times some of us might be trapped in Ukraine and needing medical attention.

[Belvis]

I come to conclusion I somehow confused by AB story. When I first red his TR I've  imagined widespread orgies in the hospital in style of patients-nurses  pornomovies. Certainly, that's not the case, the controversial issue is RW mass-cheating. Then I've understood I do not comprehend the meaning of term "cheating". I suspect what AB called cheating I would take as a flirting in many cases.
American Boy, could you please elaborate on "cheating", how did you see that?

[happyandstable]

   Thanks for this information Mendeleyev pop of Russia 143,030,106. Now lets say the AB met 1,000 people, that equates to .000007% of the population, now lets say he met 10,000 people, that would be .00007% or population. Both are statistically insignificant. Now AB wants to say I am making moral judgments, yet after meeting such a small segment of the Russia population he feels a need to come here and warn us so misinformed souls here on RWD. Who is making the huge and wide sweeping moral judgment here AB? It is you. I agree with Mies here

taking advantage of a woman is bad. Taking advantage of a woman with a small and sick child is infinitely worse.

   But AB has never had a problem with his morals just everyone else’s so for him it is do as I say not as I do! AB might stand for America Butthead. Make no mistake AB you are the one making sweeping and statistically insignificant moral judgments here. You can duck, dodge, and weave all you want, But you clearly have no idea what it means to be a man or a friend.

[ECOCKS]

   Thanks for this information Mendeleyev pop of Russia 143,030,106. Now lets say the AB met 1,000 people, that equates to .000007% of the population, now lets say he met 10,000 people, that would be .00007% or population. Both are statistically insignificant. Now AB wants to say I am making moral judgments, yet after meeting such a small segment of the Russia population he feels a need to come here and warn us so misinformed souls here on RWD. Who is making the huge and wide sweeping moral judgment here AB? It is you. I agree with Mies here

   But AB has never had a problem with his morals just everyone else’s so for him it is do as I say not as I do! AB might stand for America Butthead. Make no mistake AB you are the one making sweeping and statistically insignificant moral judgments here. You can duck, dodge, and weave all you want, But you clearly have no idea what it means to be a man or a friend.

Bad news.

Depending on your level of confidence and acceptable error criteria, 1000 is possibly statistically significant and 10,000 is well above most any sampling standard used for marketing, poltiical polling or quality assurance testing.

Still his sample could be challenged as lacking diversity, therefore not randomly distributed in terms of geography, ethnic groupings and the like.

[mies]

That's good! I'm good at being loved!

maybe you should inquire about my "loving" style before agreeing for it. Just a thought.

A person true strength and character is measure when they're at their weakest. This goes for me too, I always thought of myself as being very strong mentally and I could survive almost alone in this world but that wasn't quite the case.

hm. Do you at least understand what you wrote? In response "maybe he was cheating and seeing cheaters because he was weak" you proudly announce "my true strength and character are revealed when I am weakest."

No the saddest part is the little brain inside your head that misinterpret everything. The money was a small point to the way I helped her,  but I guess you missed the rest of what I wrote, big surprise. but the money did help her, she wouldn't have been able to get her apartment without it.

As for the brain size inside each of our respective heads - as we say in Russian только вот не надо здесь начинать меряться пиписьками.
Here is the situation I see it: you meet a young woman in dire state, "a mess" as you call her. She broke up with her husband (i don't know what happened between them), she has a small daughter who is sick for lifetime, her chances to meet a man for marriage in Russia are minimal, but she can meet as many men for sex as she wants. Even men who would support her financially. She desperately needs a reliable man who can support her and be part of her life indefinitely - emotionally and financially, not for 6 months, a real partner if you know what i mean (I fear you don't). Then you appear in her life, accept her signs of affection, flirt maybe, start a relationship with her, even though you know from day 1 that you cannot give you what she needs, that she is an "emotional mess" and cannot think straight, and that you will leave her behind. But she can give you what you need, so you take it. In my view, it's a clear cut case of taking advantage. And after you leave her after using her as a tool, a utensil, for 6 months, you write her "I hope you will meet another good man" to a woman who loves you, and whose life is still pretty much a mess, and send her $338 as a parting gift. This is unbelievably cruel. It may take long time for your little brain to process, but as you grow wiser (hopefully), over time you will understand what I am saying.   
 

Yes, her daughter will need treatment her whole life, which forces her to stay in Russia. Unless she finds a very rich guy abroad that is willing to take care of her. This is a possibility but based on her character I don't think this will happen

  or, sure. Like foreign countries cannot provide treatment. In Europe I've heard there is some form of subsidized medicine.

Good thing I did neither.

This statement could be true, in your self-serving imaginary world.

[Belvis]

  But she can give you what you need, so you take it. In my view, it's a clear cut case of taking advantage. And after you leave her after using her as a tool, a utensil, for 6 months, you write her "I hope you will meet another good man" to a woman who loves you, and whose life is still pretty much a mess. This is unbelievably cruel. It may take long time for your little brain to digest, but as you grow wiser (hopefully), over time you will understand what I am saying.   

Mies,  it seems you mixed up diiferent AB's women. And you're just unfair in your perseptions. I don't think any side had illusions in these relationships.

[mies]

Bad news.

Depending on your level of confidence and acceptable error criteria, 1000 is possibly statistically significant and 10,000 is well above most any sampling standard used for marketing, poltiical polling or quality assurance testing.

Still his sample could be challenged as lacking diversity, therefore not randomly distributed in terms of geography, ethnic groupings and the like.

wouldn't a stratified sample be more appropriate here? Plus a test for statistical difference between hospitalized and healthy individuals?

Her saw about 2400 people:
"That's what you guys don't seem to understand. I met people from ALL over russia and saw it with almost everyone. I was in 800 bed facility and probably saw 3 different waves of people roll through and these people travel from all over russia and the world for treatment. I'd say at most 10% were natives from that town"
I don't know if there were kids, and what was proportion of kids with hot mothers.

[mies]

Mies,  it seems you mixed up diiferent AB's women. And you're just unfair in your perseptions. I don't think any side had illusions in these relationships.

What do you mean?
In my understanding, AB had 2 girlfriends. 1 was 17 when he met her, and turned 18 2 weeks later. She probably was also a patient, from a different city. Second is the young mother with 5yo sick daughter.

Quotes from OP:
About Russian women:
"You guys are all after a Russian wife and I was here to give you guys feedback on Russian women. I think they're great, just hard to trust."
"Russian girls seem to not have very much loyalty. I was in Russia most of this past year and girls were cheating on their husbands and boyfriends with me left and right, even girls who I would never expect it from... 

About his first gf:
"The young ones father invited me to stay with them when I was finished at the hospital. Her and I skyped a lot after she left and she had the whole plan that I'd ask her father for her hand and her heart. I told her I couldn't, that I knew this whole idea was impossible, she told me nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough, but really I couldn't.  The last time I saw her I told her I was going home and we could connect when I came back. I told her she was young, and to be single and to enjoy her summer. She said she couldn't survive a break up but after I returned home and reality sunk in for her. It was a like a light switch had clicked and she completely ignored me. I was the first for almost everyitng for her so I felt guilty because I really [dot]did care[/dot] {??} about this girl and I was her first guy for just about everything. A few months later her and I chatted and all is well. She had already started a new life."

About his second gf:
"The second girl told me she never loved a boy like me. When I left she begged me for a baby. She said she wanted to wake and go to sleep next to me every night and this was the only way. She asked me so many times to stay in Russia with her and started telling her family about me. I said a lot of meaningless things to her, probably used her in a sense but it made her feel good. People would always ask her " are you going to america?" and she would always say no, that her life was russia. After I left I told her that I needed to move on and she wrote me a long heart felt letter trying to explain this other boy and saying she was willing to travel all the way across the world for me. She signed it with " you can hate the grey mouse Lena, but just know there's a small heart very far away that loves and a mind that is always thinking about you"
"The last girl I was with told me if I wasn't so mean to her she wouldn't like me so much"

In OP's own words: "probably used her in a sense."

About both of them:
"Both of these girls asked me to marry them."
"I met both of these girls in a hospital. Both told me "no, I'm single" and then later I found out both had boyfriends at home."

Mind it: the first one was only 17. I am not sure what is meant by "boyfriend" here.

AB posts the photo of the second girlfriend, along with his stories and hints about sexual preferences, and his mantra about her infidelity and cheating nature.

[happyandstable]

Bad news.

Depending on your level of confidence and acceptable error criteria, 1000 is possibly statistically significant and 10,000 is well above most any sampling standard used for marketing, poltiical polling or quality assurance testing.

Still his sample could be challenged as lacking diversity, therefore not randomly distributed in terms of geography, ethnic groupings and the like.

    Your analysis has one problem. AB did not use the scientific method. Also I would never trust marketing or political polling. Both are self serving and both have been proven to fail in the past. To get a correct statistically significant result requires a large enough sampling of the entire populations when you are sampling only .00007% of the population the results would be very insignificant to say the least. Further more AB now admits he did not travel but was confined to his hospital bed. So his sample pool was very jaded. These are my last thoughts on the subject I have better things to do.

[TheTraveler]

Oh yeah, russian girls are super jealous, they love when foreign boys talk broken Russian, they're super sexual and [ sorry if this is too much] but they love butt action.

perhaps it was a bit much to mention it, but it seems like every girl over there preferred that.

What rubs me wrong about this thread is that the above quotes have been forever memorialized with two Russian girls' photos/videos in this thread (whether he meant it to apply to them or not).
 
And in the process of inflating his own image (to impress who?), he's taken those girls' reputations down a notch.  Unless they gave him permission to post their sexual proclivities on the web, that is.
 
BTW... Some on this thread have accused AB of using and discarding his Russian women.  But they're wrong... He's still using them.
 

[Belvis]

What do you mean?
In my understanding, AB had 2 girlfriends. 1 was 17 when he met her, and turned 18 2 weeks later. She probably was also a patient, from a different city. Second is the young mother with 5yo sick daughter.

There must be 17 yo girl (not a patient),  the young mother with 5yo sick daughter, 39 yo mother with a sick son, and many others  from all over Russia. All were cheating and betraying their boyfriends and husbands for AB sake.

[mies]

There must be 17 yo girl (not a patient),  the young mother with 5yo sick daughter, 39 yo mother with a sick son, and many others  from all over Russia. All were cheating and betraying their boyfriends and husbands for AB sake.

The 17yo he met in a hospital. She was from a different city. I assumed she may have been a patient but whoever she was does not really matter.
Second was the mother of a sick daughter.

The 39yo was not AB's girlfriend. She made a pass on him. Maybe he had sex with her, but he never clarified.

Nevertheless. Roughly speaking, AB was in a hospital with approximately 2400 patients.
We can look at it as "approximately half of them were females" or we can look at it as "all of them were either females or had a female relative of an acceptable for AB age."
That gives us at least 2400 females, of whom 10% were local and 90% - from other locations.
Out of these 2400 women AB dated in one year 2 women: one teenager with no experience, and 1 woman whose life was a mess. According to him he also slept with some. I'll throw a wild guess of 17 women. Ok. Make it 20.
So, out of 2400 women, 20 slept with AB, and some of those 20 had cheated on their boyfriends with AB, or flirted with AB which he interpreted as an intent to cheat. (arguable statement, but ok). That is 0.83 % (less than 1%). If you throw in also female friends of each of these women - the rate of AB's success in getting laid with RWs drops to 0.41%. If you add random girls in a club - even lower. Out of these 0.4%, about half had "boyfriend" or "husband." So in a total population of all females AB met during his hospital trip, approximately 0.2% were prone to cheating.
And we have not even gone to the discussion of how representative are hospital patients with serious illnesses of the rest of population in the country.
We can also throw in a twist of "self-selection" of women who were attracted to AB. As Russian proverb says: рыбак рыбака видит издалека. And say that women he had sex with are statistically different from women with whom he did not have sex.

AB, do you do business same way as you calculate the share of cheating russian women? What were you doing during math classes?
 

[ECOCKS]

    Your analysis has one problem. AB did not use the scientific method. Also I would never trust marketing or political polling. Both are self serving and both have been proven to fail in the past. To get a correct statistically significant result requires a large enough sampling of the entire populations when you are sampling only .00007% of the population the results would be very insignificant to say the least. Further more AB now admits he did not travel but was confined to his hospital bed. So his sample pool was very jaded. These are my last thoughts on the subject I have better things to do.

Good.

It was your comment, which I responded to, that only addressed that the numbers weren't statistically sufficient. The numbers are statistically significant. You didn't know what you were talking about and tried to quote numbers in an attempt to bluster your way into putting him down on the way to your moral judgement.

Also, I clearly stated that the diversity and randomness were subject to question.

It's a discussion forum about people, not an academically regulated consideration of quantitative analysis, get over yourself and the moral outrage you want to express.

[GQBlues]

no. I wouldn't expect that, of course. It's late and i am getting tired.
AB is warning western men about the nature of RWs. He did not warn AMs about the nature of the girls he met. He warns men of any random girl any random man can meet. He warns them of RWs in general. What led him to his opinion of RWs, and left impression so strong that now he wants to warn others? See my post.

I like allegories, sometimes taking it to extreme can make example more vivid. Suppose a thief of a particular nationality offered you fancy item, which he stole from a household. You take this item, keep it for yourself, use it, and then warn everyone that all people of this nationality are thieves, although very generous ones. Remember: you always had an option to refuse taking the stolen item. Also, there is no way you could know whether everyone in this nation is a thief. Do you see my point now?

I missed this response, mies...

Yes, I can clearly see your point. Unfortunately I do not agree.

Using the example you gave and lending this in context on AB's thread, I believe you are taking this a bit off kilter.

Your point would be on target if the thread was about what option/s is/are available for AM/WM if and when they encounter misbehaving RWs, which all of us can agree is fairly prevalent, during their visit/stay in FSU. But the thread isn't about that.

In your sampling above, you disregarded the action of the opportunistic 'thief', who AFAIK, committed multiple crimes in that sampling, and instead put the onus on a targeted recipient of his crime. Just like what you're doing now. You are mum about the actions of the misbehaving RWs and laying the scrutiny *solely* on AB.

The fact is, if AB did encounter these types of women during his visit in Russia, why else would he report anything other than that?

I've seen many RMs, young and old, during my visits to Russia who drinks just about every bottle dry.
Many lay waste along street sides, parks, etc...I can openly say RMs are drunks without having the need to say 'not all of them however'.

There are many incidences of nationalistic actions by the youths in St Pete and Moscow against those they perceive as the 'non-Russian'. I've seen it myself a few times. I even experienced a couple of attempts towards me. I can easily lay warnings to non-white males traveling to Russia to 'lay low' and be aware of your surrounding, and as far as I'm concerned it is warranted. It doesn't mean I aimed to say all youths in Russia are like that, nor am I degrading the culture. It has very little, or none, to do whether I'm a street brawler or what-not.

Here's one more dandy for you: Last I was in Ekat, late at night in a bar. The room emptied out and soon enough, it was just myself, my date and a RM (He turned out to be an ex-convict judging from his tattoos). He started talking to us in his drunken state. My date was trying to translate because he was directing things to me. She was also saying I should just try to ignore him. He was asking who I was, where I'm from, etc...

Then he said something to me and when I looked at her for the translation, she bowed her head and contemplated whether or not she should even say anything. She meekly said, "He said we should go and come to his apartment because he said he's got 4 guests staying there. He said his guests are real Americans...he'll introduce us to them..."

LOL! Real Americans!

I stared at the gal and asked her to reply 'exactly' in the manner I said. She looked frazzled, hesitated, laughed, and when she did, she did so while trying so hard not to bust-up from laughing...

I told her to ask him if those guests were either Apaches or Commanches. If so, I'd rather not because I only chat with Siouxs.

Now, do you see my point?

[Ranetka]

 
Here is the situation I see it: you meet a young woman in dare state, "a mess" as you call her. She broke up with her husband (i don't know what happened between them), she has a small daughter who is sick for lifetime, her chances to meet a man for marriage in Russia are minimal, but she can meet as many men for sex as she wants. Even men who would support her financially. She desperately needs a reliable man who can support her and be part of her life indefinitely - emotionally and financially, not for 6 months, a real partner if you know what i mean (I fear you don't). Then you appear in her life, accept her signs of affection, flirt maybe, start a relationship with her, even though you know from day 1 that you cannot give you what she needs, that she is an "emotional mess" and cannot think straight, and that you will leave her behind. But she can give you what you need, so you take it. In my view, it's a clear cut case of taking advantage. And after you leave her after using her as a tool, a utensil, for 6 months, you write her "I hope you will meet another good man" to a woman who loves you, and whose life is still pretty much a mess, and send her $338 as a parting gift. This is unbelievably cruel. It may take long time for your little brain to process, but as you grow wiser (hopefully), over time you will understand what I am saying.   

+1.

[mies]

The fact is, if AB did encounter these types of women during his visit in Russia, why else would he report anything other than that?

please, see the numbers in my boring academic post. Numbers don't lie.
0.2% or less of women whom AB met are cheaters and liars. 

AB, if you slept with more than 20 women in addition to your 2 more long-term girlfriends in Russia, please tell the accurate number and I will recalculate statistics for you.

GQBlues, I will answer the rest of your post a bit later, maybe in private. Have a meeting to attend now.

[Muzh]

please, see the numbers in my boring academic post. Numbers don't lie.
0.2% or less of women whom AB met are cheaters and liars. 

AB, if you slept with more than 20 women in addition to your 2 more long-term girlfriends in Russia, please tell the accurate number and I will recalculate statistics for you.

GQBlues, I will answer the rest of your post a bit later, maybe in private. Have a meeting to attend now.

Mies, I know this whole story is eating you, but I bet you that our hero basically "slept" with his own pillow.

Well, maybe not, but 20 of them? Nah!

I do agree with you that he is a very immature and exaggerating boy.

[mies]

I told her to ask him if those guests were either Apaches or Commanches. If so, I'd rather not because I only chat with Siouxs.

that was a good one 

as for your extension my thief example - you cannot possibly know for a fact whether this particular thief had stolen multiple times before, or this is his first and only. However the recipient of the stolen item is known for committing the act of stealing similar item before. Double standards, gross misrepresentation of facts, making degrading and unsupported by facts comments about people of a specific nationality.
I have seen more homeless in USA than I saw in Russia or Ukraine.
I rarely drink, not attracted by drinking culture, I hate drunk people and avoid them whenever I can (quite successfully), I am not that much interested in clubs anymore, so I do not observe the drinking culture. In the clubs I went to in Ukraine I saw far fewer drunk people than in the clubs I went to in USA. So I am somewhat uncertain of what to make out of it. Basically, I think people drink everywhere.

As for xenophobia - I have been always saying, at this board, and in other places, that Russians and Ukrainians are very xenophobic nations. Moreover, whereas in the West the official state policy is "co-exist" and "tolerance," in Russia the policy supported on all levels and hugely funded by various political leaders, is the policy of hate to everyone who is non-russian and of color or "non-friendly country" such as Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine, etc etc. Ukraine is just a tiny bit different. You can read at AD forum multiple comments from regular contributors, highly educated, sophisticated, refined and overall smart women referring to any non-caucasian people as "monkeys," stupid, unevolved, inferior, and so on. So I fully agree with you on the racism part of your comment.

[Gator]

AmericanBoy,
 
You act as if Mendeleyev is attacking you.  Au contraire, he is a gentle man.   I believe Mendeleyev is trying to help you by teaching you and challenging you.  He reminds me of the art professor asking a student to discuss his feelings about an important painting.  The professor starts slow, yet continues to dig as he facilitates the student's cultivation to a level he has never attained.    In this case, it is not a painting but something even more complex.  It is a country. its people, and its culture.
 
Even though you spent most of 2011 in Russia, what you have reported to us is very narrow.   You write about young women and their behavior towards you.  The general consensus is that your reports are true.  However, were you blind to anything that did not place you at the center of attention?   There is far more to life than sex and young girls 
 
Many men have given you attaboys for partying with many women.  And these men seem critical of Mendeleyev's questioning of you.  Yes, as a journalist, Mendeleyev did question some specific facts you reported.  However, read beyond his brief interrogation and focus on his inquisitive stance towards you.  Do you recognize that he is not attacking you, but encouraging you to grow?    If you do, maybe you will take advantage of this learning opportunity.  Not only would you learn more about life in Russia, maybe you would learn more about life and yourself as well. 
 
BTW, Mies is taking a similar track.  She is endeavoring to teach you about respect.   The largest complaint RW have of foreign men who visit them is the men do not show enough respect for Russia and its culture and people.  What you see as negative, may have some positive aspects, or it may simply be different, not better nor worse than your own culture.

[Eduard]

There is far more to life than sex and young girls 
 

Is this Phil??? Or did some one hijacked your account??? 

[Gator]

Is this Phil??? Or did some one hijacked your account??? 

Its me. 

 
Besides young girls there are young women, older women, short ones, tall ones, blondes and brunettes and redheads, thin as well as curvy, hot-tempered women and mellow women,.....................................Plus golf.

[GQBlues]

that was a good one 

The gal I was with thought so, too..the guy however did not 

...as for your extension my thief example - you cannot possibly know for a fact whether this particular thief had stolen multiple times before, or this is his first and only. However the recipient of the stolen item is known for committing the act of stealing similar item before. Double standards, gross misrepresentation of facts, making degrading and unsupported by facts comments about people of a specific nationality.

The multiple crimes I mentioned above was more in the context of a 'thief'  and 'selling stolen goods'. Both are federal crimes.

Anyway, perception is a major component of profiling/stereo-typing. Unfortunately, we're ALL susceptible to these instances. Had I seen you take a casual stroll along the streets of No. Long Beach, Sta. Ana or South Central, I certainly won't hesitate to throw caution against your sail. It doesn't mean I believe certain sets of ethnic communities here are ALL undesirables and/or criminals.

Despite the fact a large percentage of young black American males are either incarcerated or have had their time spent behind bars, doesn't mean all black Americans are criminals - far from it. But even Jesse Jackson takes refuge of the fact the silent footsteps he hears behind him during his casual nightly walks are from a two-legged white male. Now I'm thinking, exactly how many times did he experienced getting jumped by a black male during his nightly walks to make a statement like that?

Back to AB's thread/story. I agree with you that it is not kosher to speak ills of folks who extended nothing but kindness your way. The gals in his story, like AB, were doing and reacting to nothing more than what 'kids', adolescent do when they find themselves attracted to someone, etc...

The question now remains, with the women he found himself in these particular instances, were they really misbehaving? Is this representative of an entire population? Culture? Apparently 'yes', then 'no' and 'no'.

We hear stories of scammers/ GCGs et al... are all FSUWs that way? Of course not. But they do exist. No one here ever took a position everytime a person posted he got scammed or he married a GCG that the majority or all of the FSUWs are that way. Hardly.

I also agree, in which I raised the point with AB, that posting images on people on the net without their consent is just not cool. he said he got their permission. I have no way of disproving that however, my perception is, no one in their right mind would permit anyone to post their images along with post detailing some raunchy behaviors to boot.

You act as if Mendeleyev is attacking you.  Au contraire, he is a gentle man.   I believe Mendeleyev is trying to help you by teaching you and challenging you.  He reminds me of the art professor asking a student to discuss his feelings about an important painting.  The professor starts slow, yet continues to dig as he facilitates the student's cultivation to a level he has never attained.    In this case, it is not a painting but something even more complex.  It is a country. its people, and its culture....

That's peachy and rosy. Fuzzy, too.

But that's hardly the stance Mendeleyev took on all his initial posts. It reached a point he became condescending. You can deny it if you want, but that would be your call. The posts are still here for anyone to read.

As a life scholar you so alluded him to be, he should have known the distinction between vinegar...honey.

[Eduard]

Its me. 

 
Besides young girls there are young women, older women, short ones, tall ones, blondes and brunettes and redheads, thin as well as curvy, hot-tempered women and mellow women,.....................................Plus golf.

Thank God! it is you!