UkraineDate.com

[AmericanBoy]

Sorry guys if this doesn't belong here, I just had a couple questions. If the mods feel its should be elsewhere or merged with another thread, please feel free..

How legit are these girls? I signed up a day ago and I feel like a piece of meat to a bunch of dogs. over 30 girls have sent me "interest" and then 5 or so have messaged me. Some of them with "we're a perfect match" or "love at first sight". Chatting seems to be starting off slow but I'm just curious if I should consider most of these to be not real. One girl asked me for skype address and another sent me her vkontakt page so I know those 2 are real. I know I should probaly just tyr and communicate but I'm just wondering how cautious I should be. I'm not worried about getting scammed I just don't want to waste my time.

Also what age brackets do girls usually come after you? I'm 28 and I know 10 years isn't a big gap but It seems odd all these little 18 year old girls are showing me interest, finding love on the internet should be the last thing on their minds.

[calmissile]

FWIW,  I like the format of the site and find most of the women sincere.
One of the good features is that you can see who has read your profile.
You are correct, you will get a lot of unsolicited "friend notices' from all kinds of women.

Here is a tip I have been using.
See if the women has read your profile.  If not, just delete the message and move on.
Also,  I find that women that write personal messages rather than using the canned messages appear to be more serious.

I find that this site is very useful in that you can exchange Skype names and email addresses in your first contact.  Those that do not respond with either email or Skype also get deleted.

Hope it helps.

[Shadow]

Hard to say. As you are young and the women usually get faced with guys over 40 you are bound to get a good level of interest. On the other hand, I would stay with those who do not mind to communicate off-site.

[Hammer2722]

Ukrainedate has lots of scammers just like any other site. You just need to separate the scammers from the sincere women. Easiest way to do that is state in your profile that you are only interested in ladies that can video chat on Skype. Ignore/delete any messages that are unwilling to do that. I found my fiance on Ukraindate and will be bringing her to the US in the next 5-7 months. I would also recommend responding to ladies that can speak English. Believe me, there are plenty out there.
 
As Shadow explained, because of your young age, you are getting the interests of many 18-21 yr olds. This does not mean they are not real. I would however, warn caution to you as I have found many of the 18 -25 yr olds are not usually very serious for a relationship. Good luck.

[AmericanBoy]

Thanks for the advice and pointers, still chatting with random girls on there. But I've been duped!!!!

Exchanged a bunch of messages with this girl



then she asked for my email to send me more pictures and this is what she really looks like



Now that I look at the pictures together, I see a small resemblance but the second lady looks much older to me. If any of you guys are in a hurry, I can see this lady wants a husband she asked me a bunch of marriage related questions, asked for my email to send a bunch of pics and then asked if I'd skype with her tomorrow. I'll link you to her profile =D

[Hammer2722]

Its pretty obvious they are 2 different women. Don't waste your time with women who use someone else's pics. One lie will turn into 20......

[AmericanBoy]

^^^ you know, you're absolutely right! Grr, biggest pet peeeve! Liars!!! Once you start catching someone in lies you always question what they say

Man, I'm screwed! I'm seriously such a nice guy. Should have been honest once I saw the picture but instead.....

This was the end of our conversation

I sent you my photos and want to know whether I like me you?
Яна  April 23, 2012 2:34 AM Report Abuse

yes, It think you're pretty =)

April 23, 2012 2:39 AM

Tomorrow shall see each other on Skype if you want this
Яна  April 23, 2012 2:41 AM Report Abuse

yes yes, that should be no problem. What time is it where you're at?

April 23, 2012 2:46 AM

I'm sechas away so I can not go online all the time, let's meet at 19 o'clock on the Ukrainian-time?
Яна  April 23, 2012 2:51 AM Report Abuse

Ok, that sounds good to me. Have a good day =)

April 23, 2012 2:52 AM

good night I'll be going to bed


fukkkkkk now I'm screwed. I don't know if I should ignore her or just tell her I'm not interested.

[newjason]

Hi AB
I am Jason
Nice to see you.

How legit are these girls? I signed up a day ago and I feel like a piece of meat to a bunch of dogs. over 30 girls have sent me "interest" and then 5 or so have messaged me. Some of them with "we're a perfect match" or "love at first sight". Chatting seems to be starting off slow but I'm just curious if I should consider most of these to be not real. One girl asked me for skype address and another sent me her vkontakt page so I know those 2 are real. I know I should probaly just tyr and communicate but I'm just wondering how cautious I should be. I'm not worried about getting scammed I just don't want to waste my time.

Until you are in the same room together, you can not know what or who is real.

You have never seen the places where those letters are being written and where those "girls" are working. Yes I said working.  Don't be surprised when you find out that you are chatting with guys.
You simply can not assume anything that you see on the net is really what it appears, because it is not.
That is because it is virtual, physical. It's entertainment, like television, it's a pretty picture painted by a professional.

Also what age brackets do girls usually come after you? I'm 28 and I know 10 years isn't a big gap but It seems odd all these little 18 year old girls are showing me interest, finding love on the internet should be the last thing on their minds.

It is the last thing on their mind.
Do not think that just because you look at a picture and read a profile that you are actually communicating with that person.
There is no way to tell unless you are meeting face to face.
The internet is a great tool for collecting information.
It's also a great tool for fooling people, because they, after some time, think that it is reality. It is not.

Let's say there was no internet.

If you got a picture of a girl in the mailbox (snail mail) and a letter, saying:  I am Ivanna and I want to date you.   Would you assume that she is serious? Would you even think it was not a joke or a scam?
Do you know what SPAM is?

Ok, another.
Let's say you get a phone call, from a voice on the phone, it seems like a wrong number, but you hear a  nice foreign voice on the phone and ask, whats up?
You start talking and kinda like that voice person., Would you ask her out? without any pre-screening?
Without knowing boo about who is calling?
If you said, yes,
then how do you feel when that person says "i'm a dude, dude"

With that said, May I ask,
Why are you using a dating site in the first place?

[newjason]

Thanks for the advice and pointers, still chatting with random girls on there. But I've been duped!!!!

Exchanged a bunch of messages with this girl



then she asked for my email to send me more pictures and this is what she really looks like



Now that I look at the pictures together, I see a small resemblance but the second lady looks much older to me. If any of you guys are in a hurry, I can see this lady wants a husband she asked me a bunch of marriage related questions, asked for my email to send a bunch of pics and then asked if I'd skype with her tomorrow. I'll link you to her profile =D

AB, you are assuming that you are chatting with women. Don't do that.  You have someone sending you photos of women, and they can't even find 2 photos of the same girl. You have no clue who you are chatting with, seriously.  Until you meet face to face, Do Not Assume Anything.

[calmissile]

AB,

Now you have me curious.      I have had several instances of photos that do not look like the same person depending whether they are 'made up' or casual.  In most cases, they were the same gal and confirmed by many other photos.  Why not Skype with her and let us know if she resembles either photo?  What do you have to loose?  Let us know.

[AmericanBoy]

Nice to meet ya Jason

I appreciate all of the pointers guys! These are the things that I didn't think about.. Im an internet friend making newb. I think people see others how they behave themselves. I don't lie and have never done this so I have no idea what to expect.

The girls who I know are real are the girls who I've became friends on vkontakte. At least they seem real because they have lots of pictures and people commenting on their page. 2 girls asked me to communicate there, one of the girls actually found me there!

and as far as why I'm there. All the girls ask the same thing "what am I after" I tell them just friends. I honestly have no expectations on meeting anyone on this site, but ya never know. One girl said no boy has gotten under her skin and she's hoping a boy will come steal her heart. I told her I'm the boy that could do it but one huge obstacle ... distance! and she came back with this quote. ""Distance means so little when someone means so much" This is the stuff that seems so fake.

I'd really like to work things out with my American girlfriend but if it's beyond repair I think I'll end up with a Russian or Ukrainian girl. Man, I'm more of a meet people in person type of guy, but in person is so far.

[AmericanBoy]

AB,

Now you have me curious.      I have had several instances of photos that do not look like the same person depending whether they are 'made up' or casual.  In most cases, they were the same gal and confirmed by many other photos.  Why not Skype with her and let us know if she resembles either photo?  What do you have to loose?  Let us know.

True, chatting wont hurt anyone. She says she knows english but I'm not so sure of that. I know she's using a translator. A lot of times Russian end a sentence without putting a space so the words next to the periods don't translate. 

I hate the stupid made up photos. I don't want to see what you look like at your absolute best, I want to see the normal you. Editing can work miracles on a picture

[calmissile]

I hate the stupid made up photos. I don't want to see what you look like at your absolute best, I want to see the normal you.

Actually I want to see both.  What you look like when we are going out dancing and what you look like when I wake up in the morning.   

Seriously,  in some cultures women will do anything to wake up first and make sure their hair is done before the alarm goes off.  A feature I admired in my ex-wife (Brazilian).  Can't say for sure about Ukrianian women since I only have one to compare with, but in that case it was the same thing.  Certainly not a characteristic of most AW.

I always ask for recent photos.  They are less likely to get all made up for a photo not going on their profiles.

I am not sure I understand why you are seeking a FSU women.  At your age there are a lot of hot women in the US.   And they speak English!

[newjason]

Nice to meet ya Jason

I appreciate all of the pointers guys! These are the things that I didn't think about.. Im an internet friend making newb. I think people see others how they behave themselves. I don't lie and have never done this so I have no idea what to expect.

The girls who I know are real are the girls who I've became friends on vkontakte. At least they seem real because they have lots of pictures and people commenting on their page. 2 girls asked me to communicate there, one of the girls actually found me there!

and as far as why I'm there. All the girls ask the same thing "what am I after" I tell them just friends. I honestly have no expectations on meeting anyone on this site, but ya never know. One girl said no boy has gotten under her skin and she's hoping a boy will come steal her heart. I told her I'm the boy that could do it but one huge obstacle ... distance! and she came back with this quote. ""Distance means so little when someone means so much" This is the stuff that seems so fake.

I'd really like to work things out with my American girlfriend but if it's beyond repair I think I'll end up with a Russian or Ukrainian girl. Man, I'm more of a meet people in person type of guy, but in person is so far.

I also do not tolerate lying. BUT,  after you get burnt a few times, you start to understand that people have their own agenda, so, what you need to understand is that while you think everyone tells the truth, and is like you, this makes you an easy mark for a dishonest person.
I give people the benefit of the doubt. I assume that they are honest and truthful until they prove otherwise.
However on the Internet, because it is Virtual ( not reality ) you should assume that nothing is real and true, until such a point that it can be proven otherwise.  Does that make sense?  Cool 


As far as this goes:
""Distance means so little when someone means so much"
Yeah! cause SHE is not the one doing  and paying for the TRAVEL across that great distance! Doi !   LOL

BTW I also have a VK presence.  The thing is , I have a lot of Friends from the FSU, and My EX had a vk page and also went to work on a dating site, yes she was being paid to chat on a dating site. Come to find out , while she was doing that, she was also married to another guy.
Read my thread, I think you may learn a little more about this. 

It's called   Hi .. I'm Jason 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14463.msg290366


If you don't mind saying , why is your Ex relationship damaged beyond repair?  you were together for a long time were you not?

[AmericanBoy]

yes 9 years. We started running into issues when i went to russia. Then she read a bunch of stuff that this girl sent me. Probably the first 6 months it was a nightmare for her and she said if we want to work on things it has to be before fall quarter because she'll start nusring school and needed to be focused on that. She somehow programmed herself to get over us and right now she doesnt' have time for for us. It's basically a lot of little things that happened in Russia.

I'm about ready to give up on chatting on the internet. I don't think meeting people online is for me, so tiring! I wish russia or ukraine was closer, I'd rather just meet people randomly

[newjason]

That's unfortunate about your xGF.
I read some of the other thread you started,  LOL.
Yes, they picked you apart like hungry phiranas.

Yes It does get quite taxing at times.  Trying to decifer the maze of good and bad and true and false is in itself seeming futile at times.

Keep your head up. We all make mistakes. That's how you learn to become the best person you can be.
It also prepares you for your future mate, who ever that may be.  Keep your options open and try putting some space and time between you and your ex and see what  happens.  You guys spent 9 years , that's a big accomplishment.  Maybe after a year of school, you will find that you can't be apart any more. Or maybe you will learn that You just were not meant to be together. Time will reveal all the answers to you.  It's just a drag having to wait and see though...  LOL

If Ukraine and Russian were closer, I think the appeal would not be what it is.
I mean there are a LOT of beautiful women up to the north of me, in Canada, but you don't see many guided tours, socials, or agency's offering them up for the taking err  i mean  meeting 

Hang in there dude 

[Gator]

AmericanBoy,
 
Same girl, only she gained some weight after having her nose fixed. 

Seriously, many women will keep old photos in their profile and then send updated photos when contacted.

[capricorn rising]

 

[Daveman]

Thanks for the advice and pointers, still chatting with random girls on there. But I've been duped!!!!

Exchanged a bunch of messages with this girl



then she asked for my email to send me more pictures and this is what she really looks like



Now that I look at the pictures together, I see a small resemblance but the second lady looks much older to me. If any of you guys are in a hurry, I can see this lady wants a husband she asked me a bunch of marriage related questions, asked for my email to send a bunch of pics and then asked if I'd skype with her tomorrow. I'll link you to her profile =D

LoL funny how tastes vary...   LadyVariant2 is more attractive than LadyVariant1!   must be the quartermeyelbrows! 

[Mander]

Interesting. I am communicating with the same woman (Elena), but have only seen picture 1.
Her emails are short, bad English and seem real. But pic 2 shows that there will be a big surprise if I would meet her. I'll scratch her off the list.

Thanks. This saves time.

Regarding UD: yes, lots of real woman are there to be found, but you better get good at scam detection. Google all emails you get, trace IPs and look for signs of things being off.
Most responses I get are scam.

[ML]

Regarding UD: yes, lots of real woman are there to be found, but you better get good at scam detection. Google all emails you get, trace IPs and look for signs of things being off.
Most responses I get are scam.

I had some correspondence with over a 100 women on UD, filtered them down and met with several.
Not one hint of a scam.

[lbkguy12]

i am on ukrainedate.com also and have started talking to a few girls. I am 26 and good looking but dont know much about internet dating. I am always nervous writing some of the girls because I dont want to offend them by mistake. I met one nice one that is 20 and she wanted to skype on the second message which i think is a good sign. Anyone else have and good pointers for the site. I like it so far.

[calmissile]

I like the site.  The format is rather good.  For gals that show an interest in you, but have not read your profile..... automatically delete.  I have only found one scammer so far.

[Milz713]

I tried UD for a while and never found anyone sincere enough to try skype,  I got tons of email from ladies I had no contact with telling me I was the one and sending pics in bathing suits posed on yachts,  when I asked how they got my email they said it didnt matter because we found each other,,, 
 

[CDW]

The woman in the 1st picture tells me that she is a materialistic !!

Once a woman told me that she is an interior designer.  But when I looked at her photos, I knew that she lied about her job.  The clothes she was wearing on the photos, had very bad colour combination.  All interior designers as well as fashion stylist learn the same thing about colour theory and their combinations.  I know it for fact because I am in the fashion business and also studied interior design.  Therefore she isn't really an interior designer, but only that she wishes to become one.

Many years ago, a woman claimed that she is a medical doctor.  When I pretended that I got very bad headache, she did not say anything at all.

Early part of correspondence is to make sure that they do not lie about something.