Life Changes...Part Deux Part 2

[Muzh]

erik, i'd disregard ade's invitation to be a 'cross-poster' -- one who drags a beef with a poster to each new thread.  it's difficult, and i don't always succeed in this regard, but i try to wipe the slate clean with each new thread.  for example, i am repulsed by muzh's political posts, but if i had carried a grudge then i wouldn't have noticed that he seems like a good husband/father, and i wouldn't have noticed that we occupy a lot of common ground on other topics.  that's just one example of many.

Thanks. 

The feeling is mutual. Sometimes ever worse.

[BillyB]

 
Although Las Vegas is intresting for most people, A liked the road trip better. At first she didn't understand why we didn't fly to Vegas. After, she understood. I've been to over 25 states and enjoy driving most of the time. A does too.
 
We travelled 11 Western states. At every state A posed with the welcome sign except where not practical or safe or missed. Photos below. Apologies to Colorado, Oregon, and Wyoming...we'll be back to get your sign. Notice the bullet holes in Nevada's sign? I guess someone had a bad exerience there.
 

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (alcohol).
 
 
GOB

Nice detective work Sherlock. How did you figure out there was alcohol in the glass? Do you know if she drank from the glass? How do you know if I bought and supplied alcohol? I won't say anything about that day but the only alcohol A had since was in mouthwash. I'd bet A drank less alcohol her whole life than you did on your first day.
 
I've done some catch up reading and you still have a habit of finding all the wrong about others and find them guilty of crimes. Have you ever heard let those who have not sinned cast the first stone and those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? You sure throw a lot of stones.
 
You even wanted to hang Aloe's husband for pushing Aloe but come to find out, you bullied your previous wife. I'm sure there are more skeletons in your closet than just that.

[BillyB]

Looking back at the photos, we did get a shot of the Welcome to Colorado sign. Also got some shot so the Grand Canyon and 4 Corners where 4 states connect. We past through some Indian reservations and bought some handmade vases.

[BillyB]

We didn't have a specific route to travel, we just drove anywhere we wanted. I taught A how to use a road map and showed her why gps could never replace the road map. A wanted to see the scenery she seen in movies and after she explained what it looked like, I knew it was Monument valley. Photos below and of some interesting balancing rocks and rock formations in Utah.

[mies]

Nice photos, Billy!
I see A. lost some weight.

[Hammer2722]

Great pics Billy. I'm especially impressed with Monument Valley. I'll have to make plans to see it in the future.

[BillyB]

 

Nice photos, Billy!
I see A. lost some weight.

A notices the average American woman is bigger than she'd like to be so A is good about dieting. Maybe you got a sharper eye but I don't think A's weight fluctuated much since she's lived in America. Some photos taken within days of each other seem to show A being skinny or with a little more meat but I think it's just the angle of the camera and clothes that give her different looks.
 

Great pics Billy. I'm especially impressed with Monument Valley. I'll have to make plans to see it in the future.

Take a road atlas with you and it'll show you some nice places to see inbetween designated stops. Utah has a lot of beautiful canyons but didn't have time to see them all. We did go through ever state in the West except for Hawaii and Alaska. That'll be next year with a flight to Hawaii and a cruise to Alaska.
 
In other news in another thread Daveman has issued the MOTHER of all warnings which means there will be no more warnings, only bans. This may not be good because it forces guys to adjust their attitude and become someone aren't, a gentleman with good manners.
 
Show everybody why your wife/gf is in love and happy with you. Make the other women here want to be in her shoes. I've posted lots of photos of my wife. She's happy, full of life, and playful in those photos. Many women wish to be in her shoes. I don't have to tell everyone here how great I am and how I make my wife happy. Everyone here can see it for themselves without words. If a man is taking care of his woman, people got to respect that. If you want to beat me, get that respect. 3rd grade insults isn't going to do that. Make every woman want to be in your wife's/gf's shoes and make every man want to be in your shoes.
 
My wife is visiting her mom so I can come here more often but when she's around, my time is limited. Internet is not as important. When I do come here, I try to help someone who needs help. The last thing on my mind is to find my least favorite posters to insult. How do happily married mature men have time for this? If I go around fighting all the time and tell you I'm happily married, would you believe me? You may believe I'm happy in my own mind but you won't believe the wife is happy.
 
I'm not a grumpy old man. I will never be a grumpy old man. I do not bother my wife with what goes on the internet. I do not complain who I think are idiots on the forum. I do not complain about who pissed me off today on the internet and how I got back at them yet some of you go to your wives with this crap. Complaining, complaining, complaining. You see and find problems everywhere with everybody. Women will lose respect for you. How about a change? Instead of the same old sh!t, different day, be happy and optimistic?  How about a few photos of your ladies smiling? I've put up a lot of photos but this one sums up what I'm talking about.
 
 
 
 

[GoodOlBoy]

....it forces guys to adjust their attitude and become someone aren't, a gentleman with good manners.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,happily married mature men

Banned be damned.
 
I am not about to sit here and be lectured on topics such as gentlemanly behavior or maturity from a middle age "man" who admittedly contacts underage girls on the internet and married a teenager.
 
What you posted here is delusional BS.
 
GOB

[Gator]

Banned be damned.
 
I am not about to sit here and be lectured on topics such as gentlemanly behavior or maturity from a middle age "man" who admittedly contacts underage girls on the internet and married a teenager.
 
What you posted here is delusional BS.
 
GOB

You are a dog with a bone.  At least you restrained yourself about mies' weight comment (I would have expected you to post something about "A" losing her baby fat).
 
Three questions.  How do you know that BillyB's intentions were not noble?  How do you know that his marriage is less genuine or less blissful than your own marriage?  How do you know that he is not good for A?

[GoodOlBoy]

Three questions.  How do you know that BillyB's intentions were not noble?  How do you know that his marriage is less genuine or less blissful than your own marriage?  How do you know that he is not good for A?

I guess you are confused Gator? 
I do not discuss the OP's teenage wife, whatsoever.
Personally, I believe that she is just an innocent victim of "grooming" by the OP.
 
My "bone" as you call it is with the sick behavior of the OP.
He admits to contacting underage girls on the internet.
He then has the audacity to lecture the members of RWD about being "gentlemanly" and "mature".
Color me stupid, but this behavior seems really bizarre.
 
GOB

PS.... Some advice, stop "protecting" the OP behind the scenes.

[BillyB]

 

I am not about to sit here and be lectured on topics such as gentlemanly behavior or maturity from a middle age "man" who admittedly contacts underage girls on the internet and married a teenager.
 

It's about 9 AM East Coast time. I hope your boss isn't paying for your posts.
 
It's been said many times by others no laws have been broken. Your morals are not standard for everyone, just yours. Most here judge me based off my success with women. A guy with bad morals or less than a MAN can't have success. If a guy is good to women, he will have success and people respect that. FSU women who read my thread in it's entirety are not freaking out as you are.
 
Since you like to talk to your wife about all the wrong happening on the internet, ask your wife to read my thread in it's entirety, not bits and pieces you want her to read. Ask her if you and I were single men, who would be the more attractive mate to women and would have success. If she said you are the superior man, you're doing good. If she says I'm more appealing to ladies, you need to worry about you, not me.
 
I've dated a lot of FSU women, most right here in USA. I'm sure there are guys here that dated more younger women than I. Rivcardo comes to mind. I'm sure there are guys here that have dated more women close to their age than I but I'm willing to bet there is nobody here that dated more women older than themself than I. I can appeal to a lot of women of all ages. I don't force anyone to talk to me, date me or marry me. I don't force them to smile and be playful in the photos. Is my wife and all those women I've dated and at the forum wrong or is it just you?
 
So far all people that know me in real life have commented on how wonderful my wife is. Should I return her because it your morals says so? You've stated your opinion long ago. Following me around repeating yourself isn't going to influence others or change my mind.
 
GOB, most people have seen enough photos of my wife to understand she's very happy with a life with me. How about some photos of your wife that will give the impression she's very happy with a life with you. You want respect? Saying you have better morals isn't going to do it. Give the impression you know how to take care of a woman.

[GoodOlBoy]

PS.... Some advice, stop "protecting" the OP behind the scenes.

Gator, a thought just came to me.
 
Please tell me (and some of the other members here), that the OP is NOT one of the anonymous MOD's here on RWD?
 
GOB

[Muzh]

Three questions.  How do you know that BillyB's intentions were not noble?  How do you know that his marriage is less genuine or less blissful than your own marriage?  How do you know that he is not good for A?

I'll take a stab at your questions.
 
Q. #1) Noble
 
  no·ble  [noh-buhl]  adjective, no·bler, no·blest, noun   

adjective 

1. distinguished by rank or title.   

2. pertaining to persons so distinguished.   

3. of, belonging to, or constituting a hereditary class that has special social or political status in a country or state; of or pertaining to the aristocracy. Synonyms: highborn, aristocratic; patrician, blue-blooded. Antonyms: baseborn, lowborn; common, plebian; lower-class, working-class, middle-class, bourgeois.   

4. of an exalted moral or mental character or excellence: a noble thought. Synonyms: lofty, elevated, high-minded, principled; magnanimous; honorable, estimable, worthy, meritorious. Antonyms: ignoble, base; vulgar, common.    5. admirable in dignity of conception, manner of expression, execution, or composition: a noble poem. Synonyms: grand, dignified, august. Antonyms: undignified, disreputable, unrespected.   


Q. #1 After reading so much garbage from his posts, the last adjective I would use on him would be noble, especially after definitions 4 and 5. I don't know about you but I do find it disgusting and deplorable that an adult 40-something yo man is "courting" a teen-age girl. What he did may not be illegal but think for a second; why do you find laws in this country that protect girls from this kind of "engagement?" For those who will engage on the technicality of his actions, you obviously never had a teen-age daughter.   

 Q. #2 Genuine and Blissful Marriage   If you are into showing off your trophy wife, I guess you can call it genuine. I'll go even further, he will be received with "atta boy" and "well done" by his supporting cast. 

If you are looking for a soul mate, then the jury is still out. However, keep in mind that Asst DA McCoy is in charge of the prosecution so the odds are not good. (This is all metaphorical of course since I would never consider myself as a worthy substitute.)   

Blissful? As long as he keeps paying, she will be in blissful heaven.   

Q. #3 Good for her.   If he is good for her, then they deserve each other. And if that's the case, better have a good prenup.

[Hammer2722]

For christ sakes GOB, get a life already!!!!! Following Billy around every thread on this forum just makes you seem like a small, small, angry old man!!!! I'm sure you have better things to do with your life don't you? 

[Gator]

Gator, a thought just came to me.
 
Please tell me (and some of the other members here), that the OP is NOT one of the anonymous MOD's here on RWD?
 
GOB

 
Surely you jest.  If not jesting, the answer is, "Billy is not an anonymous MOD."   From my perspective, I assure you that the anno Mods tend to avoid entering any fray other than try to keep everything on a level playing field. 
 
I am not an anno Mod as it is a very time consuming duty.   I feel free to speak my mind.  And please do not infer that I condone Billy's approach.  My reasons for saying something now have been revealed in the past.  Basically, now that Billy is married and he and his wife are building a new life in America, I wish both of them success and happiness.  Also, I am an oddball. I tend to find other oddballs interesting. 
 
Nevertheless, last week I made a "cold water" post about our new femdom oddball member and the post was promptly deleted by a mod.  I guess I went too far in the eyes of that particular mod. 
 
I also find GOB a bit odd and consider him an interesting and worthy member of the RWD community.  I hope he is not banned, but based on advisory committe comments I assure you he will be if he keeps picking scabs. 

[GoodOlBoy]

For christ sakes GOB, get a life already!!!!! Following Billy around every thread on this forum just makes you seem like a small, small, angry old man!!!! I'm sure you have better things to do with your life don't you? 

Now, who is following who around here squealer Hammer?
Yes, I know about your "activities" here on RWD.
If my posts to the OP upset your fantasies about teenage girls, then do yourself a favor and put GOB on ignore.
You have my permission.
 
GOB

[Daveman]

Now, who is following who around here squealer Hammer?
Yes, I know about your "activities" here on RWD.
If my posts to the OP upset your fantasies about teenage girls, then do yourself a favor and put GOB on ignore.
You have my permission.
 
GOB

Excellent point about the ignore.  I'd also reword it this way.. and apply it to anyone on this forum.


If any posts by the OP upset your version of morality, then do yourself a favor and put the OP on ignore. 

Banned be damned.
 
I am not about to sit here and be lectured on topics such as gentlemanly behavior or maturity from a middle age "man" who admittedly contacts underage girls on the internet and married a teenager.
 
What you posted here is delusional BS.
 
GOB

That's unfortunate..  It's not really about BillyB, is it?


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[size=78%]I'm not even sure that's an exaggeration..  [/size]

[size=78%]You were banned before. ONE of the conditions of the lifting of the ban was to stop this nonsense.  [/size]

[Daveman]

 
 
In other news in another thread Daveman has issued the MOTHER of all warnings which means there will be no more warnings, only bans. This may not be good because it forces guys to adjust their attitude and become someone aren't, a gentleman with good manners.
 

There was to be no mention of the warning or action.  This was throwing gas on the fire.


This has to stop, from all sides. Now. 

[BillyB]

I tend to find other oddballs interesting. 
 

I do too. Sometimes when I have free time in the FSU, I sit on a bench at watch the people pass by. I see more oddball couples there than in America. Tall woman with short man. Overweight man/woman with skinny woman/man. Ugly man/woman with beautiful woman/man. All I can see in them is physical aspects of the relationship but there must be something good about the one who is lacking physically. Others will shake their head in disapproval without understanding all. In America women can choose a man close in age and in appearance without needing him to be a good provider since she can provide for herself. In other countries women can overlook a man's appearance and age if he can take care of her and a family.
 
Television has taught us men who marry overseas are losers and the women they marry are users. Almost everyone here are in or want to be in what most people consider an oddball relationship. I'm sure every guy and gal at this forum have wondered what their friends and family will think. Most will think bad but in the end they will judge again after they meet the spouse. If a guy/gal marries a winner, their spouse will be accepted and you envied.
 
In your other thread you recently said your friends were alarmed and your sons wanted to enroll you in a mental institution after learning you're marrying another RW. It's normal for them to think you should've learned your lesson but they should also know not all RW are the same. After meeting her, they are happy with your decision. All my friends and family their reservations but are happy with my decision after meeting my wife.
 

How do you know that BillyB's intentions were not noble?

Everybody has judged and most people on the forum concluded my intentions are noble. My wife is a quality person and to attract and keep quality people one must have good qualities themself.
 
My wife is happy and healthy. Most women and men here respect what they see and that's where most women want to be at when they marry a man. For both men and women a spouse can be a big part of their happiness or grief. It doesn't matter how good looking or age appropriate a man is, if he can't provide security and happiness for his woman, he's not respectable.
 
Below are some photos of A at Yellowstone last winter. Not a good time to go because it was closed.

[Hammer2722]

A looks like she needs a heavier coat in some of your last pics Billy. It looks really cold!!! 

[BillyB]

A looks like she needs a heavier coat in some of your last pics Billy. It looks really cold!!! 

It got to be below -14 celcius during our travels. We planned our trip to be mostly down south so we didn't take heavier coats.
 
Below in photos is A learning to drive.

[Turboguy]

Great photos Billy except she doesn't seem to be enjoying it much.
Now she is ready for you to get her a new car and teach her to drive on the road.   Have you started really teaching her to drive?  That is something that can really test your patience. 
I liked your comment about your family having doubts at first but being supportive once they met her.  I am sure that is a common situation.  I am sure most familys worry about the choices that we make and I think it doesn't take long for people to realize we really did know what we were doing and that our wives are really great and they accept them quite well.
I have seen a lot of comments about concerns concerning people accepting our wives in the past.  I think those concerns are generally overblown.  I have noticed that my wife seems to have a magnetic personality that really draws people to her.  My wife feels more at home with her Russian friends I think mostly because she can chatter away in the language she is comfortable with and it provides a bit of an escape for her but when she does want to be friends with AW she will have a very easy time of it. 
I am glad things are going well for the two of you.  I don't think you can ask much more of a relationship than for both people to be very happy together and if some think there is a mismatch for any reason that is their problem.  A happy, loving relationship is what most people dream of and if you have found that then other people's opinion is unimportant.
 
 
 

[ML]

Yes, I remember several months back when some posters here commented that A didn't look very happy in her USA pics; at least compared to previous pics.

I must say, she continues to look fairly unhappy being with BillyBoy.

[BillyB]

Now she is ready for you to get her a new car and teach her to drive on the road.   Have you started really teaching her to drive?  That is something that can really test your patience. 

A forgot to bring her birth certificate to America and passport alone is not enough to get a drivers permit. A did drive a car illegally and if anybody doesn't like it, they can get off the sidewalk!
 
On our road trip I let A drive 100 miles. When a big semi truck is in the rearview mirror, she slows down to 30 mph although the speed limit is 60+.  She said she's scared of big trucks and want to be safe around them. I told her by driving slow she becomes a hazard and may cause and accident.
 
Below in photos is A at Sakura con. I don't like Japanese anime but she went with a relative with mine. Sometimes she go with my relatives without me and shopping alone. I hate shopping. I sometimes ask her how many guys talk to her. Most of the time it's none and sometimes it's one. I told her the truth is that she is ugly and nobody wants her. The real truth is most guys probably think they have no chance so they don't try.
 
 

[Turboguy]

Yes, I remember several months back when some posters here commented that A didn't look very happy in her USA pics; at least compared to previous pics.

I must say, she continues to look fairly unhappy being with BillyBoy.

If her smile gets any bigger than in the driving photos her ears are going to fall into her mouth.