Life Changes...Part Deux Part 2

[Ranetka]

I can not believe you took that seriously.  Your life in NZ must be very serious.  Get real!

First, if true, he would still probably be in prison.  Second, if now released, under VAWA laws, A would not have received a fiancée visa to marry Billy.

I am also one of the people who took billy's revelation seriously.
If you read his last reply the wording is such that he does not say the robbery or rape never happened. The man posted lots of bizarre stuff in all seriousness , this is just one more thing average man would have kept to himself but Billy shared.

[Ranetka]

One who has read Billy's saga for five years and who has a very good memory.

[Gator]

I'm so happy for this guy that he thinks a stripper is a great catch.  (NOT!)  I had a girlfriend who became a stripper after our relationship was over.  She changed from being a very nice gal into a gal who was jaundiced in her approach to men.  In the end, she will never be happy in her life and neither will the men she dates.

I understand the sentiment expressed by your ex-.  She was stripping for free for years and years, and then when she started to get paid for it, men were critical.  Why did men become critical?  Because men thought they owned her body and now she has the gall to charge men money to see it.  Think about it.

[Gator]

The man posted lots of bizarre stuff in all seriousness....

Did BillyB ever say he was completely serious?  Billy weaves the snippets of his life with sarcasm and fantasy and sometimes boastfulness.  He is far, far from being a Kurt Vonnegut who used "satire, gallows humor and science fiction,"  yet you need to read Billy in a similar light. 

Anyone who is very serious in life, or disgusted by Billy's romantic relationship, should not read him.   
There is plenty of trite if not insipid stuff to choose from.   

[Ranetka]

Did BillyB ever say he was completely serious?  Billy weaves the snippets of his life with sarcasm and fantasy and sometimes boastfulness.  He is far, far from being a Kurt Vonnegut who used "satire, gallows humor and science fiction,"  yet you need to read Billy in a similar light. 

Anyone who is very serious in life, or disgusted by Billy's romantic relationship, should not read him.   
There is plenty of trite if not insipid stuff to choose from.   

Until he comes and says 'i have never done this, it was a joke' i intend to take what he says at face value.

[Gator]

Until he comes and says 'i have never done this, it was a joke' i intend to take what he says at face value.

Do you know that many people get a laugh from reading Billy?  Maybe one day you too will chuckle.  We will drink upon reaching that milestone.

[Ranetka]

Do you know that many people get a laugh from reading Billy?  Maybe one day you too will chuckle.  We will drink upon reaching that milestone.

I chuckle all the time, why do i think i read him?

[vwrw]

Are those bruises on A's left arm (1st photo)? Or paint?

Good eyes, mies.
That is not paint. Below elbow, it looks like a bruise form thumb and above elbow, it looks like bruises from a grip. I certainly do NOT suggest that is a result of abuse. 

[pokerintherear]

I wonder if Billy does this in front of his Mother in Law.

[Anotherkiwi]

I can not believe you took that seriously.  Your life in NZ must be very serious.  Get real!

Yes, my life is serious, but it's interesting that a couple of our RW members also thought that BillyB was serious.  Maybe it was just the way that it was worded.
 

First, if true, he would still probably be in prison.  Second, if now released, under VAWA laws, A would not have received a fiancée visa to marry Billy.

Billy is now in his forties.  If these things really did happen (say when he was in his teens or early twenties) he would probably have been back in the outside world by the time he was 30 or 35, so it's quite feasible that he would have had 10 or 15 years to reform.
 
Obviously I'm not familiar with VAWA, because it doesn't apply to any other country, but I thought its effect was to force disclosure of previous criminal conduct that would be relevant to a relationship.  Does a prospective fiancée have any say in the matter?  In other words, having received whatever documentation is required, is she allowed to tell immigration authorities that she's still happy to go ahead with the relationship?  I'm talking here about people who have actually met, rather than those who are just corresponding or Skyping.

[fathertime]

it's obvious what you are trying to imply.

but to me (and probably most), it just comes across as envy.

regardless, glad to see that billy has decided *not* to dignify it.

I agree with traveler...it does come across as envy.  I think about half a dozen people would love to discourage Billyb from posting pictures, and discussing how things are going.  I enjoy reading and viewing his posts...it is a real life marriage and the story continues to unfold...I don't see these 'bruises' in that first photo, but I guess I'm just missing them but it is obvious what somebody was trying to imply. 


Fathertime! 

[lordtiberius]

There is a lot in what BillyB writes that is rife for criticism, but this insinuation based on rumor that he is some abusive criminal is despicable.  Those that engage in this scandal mongering should be ashamed of themselves and know that what goes around comes around - usually three times over.

Jus' sayin'

[Ade]

it's obvious what you are trying to imply.

but to me (and probably most), it just comes across as envy.

regardless, glad to see that billy has decided *not* to dignify it.

    She's not trying to imply anything. She asked a straight question - it's you that has added nasty connotations. Projecting are we?


"Oink".



And, FWIW, they look like bruises to me also and given they look like that on a photo, they are probably far more pronounced in the flesh.

Good eyes, mies.
That is not paint. Below elbow, it looks like a bruise form thumb and above elbow, it looks like bruises from a grip. I certainly do NOT suggest that is a result of abuse. 

Yes, they do, don't they. Although not to step down to Traveler's level, there are all kinds on reasons you can get bruises like that which do not involve coercion.

[Ade]

Nah, Billy,

I don't think you're here to justify Ade's invective language.  I think you, like most other people, after repeated assaults for something not of your doing, refuses to give justification for those assaults by producing evidence.

The parallel to Jay is still evident.  The forum was used to stir up a rumor about Jay who refused to indulge it.  Personally, I am happy you have a sexy woman on your arm. 

On another note:  Why is it that all FSUW love the slot machine Wheel of Fortune?  It is as if Vanna White could step out of the machine and award prizes.

Oh blah, blah, blah.


Go and read this thread again. No one brought up the subject of rings and wedding pictures until many, many months after Billy was supposedly married and had posted lots of pictures of Vegas and redwoods. Trying to cover his arse by saying he's not producing evidence because of pressure is just a ludicrous cop out - there was no pressure.    If Billy had wedding pictures he would have posted them months and months ago. It's what he does. Anything to boost his ego, any little tidbit to pander to the old goats fantasies.    Instead we just get silly rationalizations; "maybe it's an allergy", "maybe she doesn't like rings", "maybe it's because of all the pressure he's not posting pictures" and bets of "I'll show you if you put up." lol Come off it, are you people really so gullible?

[Ade]

There is a lot in what BillyB writes that is rife for criticism, but this insinuation based on rumor that he is some abusive criminal is despicable.  Those that engage in this scandal mongering should be ashamed of themselves and know that what goes around comes around - usually three times over.

Jus' sayin'

You understand that he made those statements himself, right? lol

[lordtiberius]

You understand that he made those statements himself, right? lol

Really?

Post the links.  Quote the sources.

[Ade]

Really?

Post the links.  Quote the sources.

Jesus dude, do your own legwork. Given that it was referenced not that far above it won't be a lot of reading for you. 

[lordtiberius]

Jesus dude,

More little gems from our nonbelieving believers

do your own legwork. Given that it was referenced not that far above it won't be a lot of reading for you. 

If you cannot provide the evidence, you should not make the accusation.

[Ade]

More little gems from our nonbelieving believers

Where's that Christian love?

If you cannot provide the evidence, you should not make the accusation.

If you cannot be bothered to read, you should take up listening to audio books.

[BC]

LOL thought I'd check in after a few months to see what new is happening around here..

Seems nuthin' has changed.   bleh.. even the tastes stale.

Carry on!

[Ade]

LOL thought I'd check in after a few months to see what new is happening around here..

Seems nuthin' has changed.   bleh.. even the tastes stale.

Carry on!

Nice to see you around. And yes, same old bollocks. Why would you expect anything else?

[fathertime]

Oh blah, blah, blah.


Go and read this thread again. No one brought up the subject of rings and wedding pictures until many, many months after Billy was supposedly married and had posted lots of pictures of Vegas and redwoods. Trying to cover his arse by saying he's not producing evidence because of pressure is just a ludicrous cop out - there was no pressure.    If Billy had wedding pictures he would have posted them months and months ago. It's what he does. Anything to boost his ego, any little tidbit to pander to the old goats fantasies.    Instead we just get silly rationalizations; "maybe it's an allergy", "maybe she doesn't like rings", "maybe it's because of all the pressure he's not posting pictures" and bets of "I'll show you if you put up." lol Come off it, are you people really so gullible?

Well Ade, BillyB gave you a chance to 'put up or shut up'...You were too afraid to take him up on the bet...If somebody made me that type of offer and I actually believed what I was typing, I'd have taken him up on it and proven once and for all what the truth was. 


 It appears that you knew you were probably incorrect in your assertions about billyb's marriage....so now your goal is to continue to muddy up the waters.


Fathertime! 

[Ade]

Well Ade, BillyB gave you a chance to 'put up or shut up'...You were too afraid to take him up on the bet...If somebody made me that type of offer and I actually believed what I was typing, I'd have taken him up on it and proven once and for all what the truth was. 


 It appears that you knew you were probably incorrect in your assertions about billyb's marriage....so now your goal is to continue to muddy up the waters.


Fathertime!

Yep. More blah, blah from another guy who confesses to get as young as he can in third world countries.

And yet more misdirection. 

[lordtiberius]

This discourse has little to do with BillyB's thread.  I suggest breaking it off.  Although I don't see the meaning in continuing it for the sake of the community, I may be in the minority.

[fathertime]

Yep. More blah, blah from another guy who confesses to get as young as he can in third world countries.

Actually what you said was factually incorrect, but the truth is unimportant to you.  You have proven that point over and over.


My impression is that you are unhappy with what you have, and therefore have found it important to attempt to bring others down to your level of unhappiness. 


...and what remains is that you were unwilling to lose your 5K...so of course you backed out of BillyB's offer to you...and continue to make angry charges.  You are easy to read now. 


Fathertime!