Life Changes...Part Deux Part 2

[lordtiberius]

Actually what you said was factually incorrect, but the truth is unimportant to you.  You have proven that point over and over.

hear hear

My impression is that you are unhappy with what you have, and therefore have found it important to attempt to bring others down to your level of unhappiness. 

second that emotion

...and what remains is that you were unwilling to lose your 5K...so of course you backed out of BillyB's offer to you...and continue to make angry charges.  You are easy to read now. 


Fathertime!   

steel on target

100% with this post!   

[calmissile]

My impression is that you are unhappy with what you have, and therefore have found it important to attempt to bring others down to your level of unhappiness. 

You probably hit the nail on the head here!  As the expression goes...  "Misery Loves Company".

[BillyB]

Richard Sherman made Broncos fans of us all.

Richard Sherman is a trash talker and although he may seem like a jerk, he's our(Seattle's) jerk and he does a good job by making the other team lose focus. He does his job well and that's all it is, a job. The biggest mistake he made was continuing his job after the game was over, taking attention from his team that's trying to soak in that magic moment of punching their ticket to the Super Bowl. Richard Sherman is young and he will make mistakes like that but he's smart enough to grow out of them. He's a more improved man now than he was a few years ago.


When Richard Sherman is not working, he does a lot of charity work and he routinely visits schools, interact with students and motivates them to do better in life. He's a Stanford University graduate and he started his masters degree but then the NFL called. When the SF 49'er player went down with a major leg injury, Sherman kneeled down and prayed for him. When Sherman later found out a fan threw popcorn on the injured 49'er who was carted off, Sherman publicly scolded him.

I'm so happy for this guy that he thinks a stripper is a great catch.  (NOT!) 

My friend doesn't think the stripper is a great catch. He thinks she's just a catch. He doesn't think it's worth marrying any woman. He prefers short term relationships and one night stands. I did warn him that the stripper my have some psychological problems from dealing with many men in the nude and she's experienced in separating men from their money.

I chuckle all the time, why do i think i read him?

When a woman comes back for more, it's always a good thing!

Until he comes and says 'i have never done this, it was a joke' i intend to take what he says at face value.

Ranetka, it's a joke. If you come visit me, I will take you on a date to the local police station and request a background check done on me and if you don't behave, I'll have one done on you or better yet, take you to the nearest hotel. You'll find out I've never been in jail. I won't charge you $5000. I won't even charge you a dime in proving this to you so when we're on the date, play nice and don't take me shopping and ask for $400 shoes.

Good eyes, mies.
That is not paint. Below elbow, it looks like a bruise form thumb and above elbow, it looks like bruises from a grip. I certainly do NOT suggest that is a result of abuse. 

If I wanted to wipe the smile off a woman's face, I certainly am capable. That's not my goal but for those who are curious, I have given my wife bruises in the past. I'm too old to be horsing around but wife is young and forces me to play her game sometimes. She bites, scratches, pinches and sometimes she goes for and squeezes the family jewels to the point I have to grab her wrists or arms and hold her back.  The rougher she plays, the harder I've got to try to contain her.


I'm not upset with mies bringing the subject up. I'll look on the bright side and take it as if she cares about the welfare of my wife.

I wonder if Billy does this in front of his Mother in Law.

I'll defend myself wherever necessary. Over a month ago, I've shown MIL a bite mark I received from her daughter. I got no sympathy and a few laughs from her. I think my wife hurts me to see if I'm going to scream like a girl or handle it like a man.


Since we're on a topic borderlining domestic violence, my friend who missed a date with a stripper has gone on a few dates with a 911 operator. He learned some interesting things. She says over 60% of the domestic violence is the woman's fault. He also learn as soon as you call 911, they pick up and listen to you although the phone continues to ring on your end. They want to assess the situation before talking to you so if they hear a woman yelling at her husband to turn down the tv and threaten him with jail by way of DV, they'll know the woman is the problem.

Obviously I'm not familiar with VAWA, because it doesn't apply to any other country, but I thought its effect was to force disclosure of previous criminal conduct that would be relevant to a relationship. 

IMBRA(International Marriage Broker Regulation Act), not VAWA forces disclosure of previous criminal conduct. The I-129F form for the k-1 fiancée visa asks men if they ever been convicted of a major crime. Of course people can lie. I don't know if our government verifies if someone tells the truth or lie but it's not against the law for current and former criminals to marry.


Now if a man uses a marriage agency, he must supply a police report to the marriage agency that's facilitating the meeting between the man and woman and that agency must show it to the woman prior to meeting the man. I used a dating site so I did not need to supply a police certificate for my wife or ex fiancée to view before meeting.

Does a prospective fiancée have any say in the matter?  In other words, having received whatever documentation is required, is she allowed to tell immigration authorities that she's still happy to go ahead with the relationship?  I'm talking here about people who have actually met, rather than those who are just corresponding or Skyping.

If a woman gets a man's records and finds him a criminal, it's still her choice to marry him.

[JayH]

Yep. More blah, blah from another guy who confesses to get as young as he can in third world countries.

And yet more misdirection. 

As expected you make condacending  attempted insults and abuse when you run out of steam. Easy enough to prove youself right-- take up the offer to bet him-it's not hard to do. One of you is going to look ridiculous-- and I don't think it is going to be BillyB !!

[calmissile]

I would like nothing more than to have a side bet with Ade on whether BillyB is legally married.  I'll add another $5K to the pot.   Emptying Ade's wallet might get him to shut up and mature a little.  If that were the case, it would be worth the money.  Since Dave seems to be the most respected member discussed to hold the money, I am satisfied with that arrangement.

Ade, either put up...... or shut up!!!

Perhaps you would like to join us in Seattle to go to the courthouse and verify the legality of his marriage?

Blah blah (mod edit )

Let me know if you have the balls to follow your mouth with your wallet!  If not, please refrain from your constant negative remarks about everyone else and grow up a little.

[Ade]

My impression is that you are unhappy with what you have, and therefore have found it important to attempt to bring others down to your level of unhappiness. 


Fathertime!   

Yep, very predictable response from your kind of crowd, so much so in fact it has become a cliche.


And of course you will use just about any kind of rationalization to shoebox all opinions other than your own into the "unhappy, bitter, blah, blah" man category - much easier to dismiss then, right? 


But that's okay, those that matter know, those that don't well, don't. lol


Oh, and I see you have LordT and Doug on your side. That must make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.... 

[Ade]

Ade, either put up...... or shut up!!!

Uh, no.


I'll tell you what though, get together $100K and I might consider shutting up.   

[calmissile]

Uh, no.


I'll tell you what though, get together $100K and I might consider shutting up. 

It's not worth $1 for each member to get you to shut up!   The Ignore feature allows it for free.   
Sometimes it's necessary to take you off ignore to see what's behind the quoted posts, just to see what nonsense you have been up to.

If you figure out any reason we should take you seriously,  please let us know the reason.  Otherwise, you might want to concentrate on your young baby and focus on doing everything you can to support your wife and young child. 

The years pass very quickly and you may well be missing the best years of your life.  Poopy diapers might seem like something to avoid, but later in life you will laugh at yourself and realize that those early years are more memorable (favorably) than any other time in your life.  Raising and molding a young child are perhaps the most important years you will experience.  I suggest you make the most of it!  You cannot recall the lost time, and you will forever be thankfull that you spent the most time possible with your child/children.

The forum is not that important to your life.  Oher than an ego thrill, it is nothing compared to the time you spend with your child.  Sure, I am an old fart, but I can tell you from experience, there is nothing more satisfying than being an integral part of raising your child.

Give it a rest!  Enjoy your wife and your child.  Your wife carried your baby and has all the normal maternal characteristics for its' survival.   She will appreciate your contribution to the love and attention you can give her and your baby.  Your responsibilities and emotional support does not end when the sperm hits the egg.   

Good luck.  I hope you give it some serious thougt.

[Ade]

The Ignore feature allows it for free.

And that would be a blessing when much of the yapping is  balb blah  from  blah blblblblblblah (mod edit)

[Turboguy]

I'll tell you what though, get together $100K and I might consider shutting up. 

Ok Ade, you are on.  I will put up the rest of the 100K.  Maybe Gator would like another quarter mil or so of that if you really want to get serious.


So, now we just need to work out the details, right!!!!!. 

[The Natural]

Raising and molding a young child are perhaps the most important years you will experience. 

You got that right Doug. Not only the most important years, but the most wonderful and rewarding years. Spending time with the little one sure beats cyberfights with strangers writing imature nonsense as ammunition. Imagine lying on your death bed years from now regretting not spending more time fighting on forums!!! Maybe that happens to atheists, I don't know 

[fathertime]

Yep, very predictable response from your kind of crowd, so much so in fact it has become a cliche.

 

Based on what you have written it doesn't appear you are writing from your happy place.  Your life should be full of joy, after waiting nearly 50 years you finally have a child, and you chose to create venomous postings towards practically everybody rather than focusing on what you have before you now.

STICK TO THE TOPIC AND LEAVE MODERATION AND THE TONE OF THE FORUM TO THE MODERATORS


Now that 100k is on the line, I wait with anticipation to see how  you weasel out of it this time, because it is a certainty that you will.  [size=78%] [/size]


Fathertime! 



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[Muzh]

Based on what you have written it doesn't appear you are writing from your happy place.  Your life should be full of joy, after waiting nearly 50 years you finally have a child, and you chose to create venomous postings towards practically everybody rather than focusing on what you have before you now.




Now that 100k is on the line, I wait with anticipation to see how  you weasel out of it this time, because it is a certainty that you will. 


Fathertime! 



 

LMAO
 
Boy he really knows which buttons to push, don't he?

[vwrw]

Since we're on a topic borderlining domestic violence, my friend who missed a date with a stripper has gone on a few dates with a 911 operator. He learned some interesting things. She says over 60% of the domestic violence is the woman's fault. He also learn as soon as you call 911, they pick up and listen to you although the phone continues to ring on your end. They want to assess the situation before talking to you so if they hear a woman yelling at her husband to turn down the tv and threaten him with jail by way of DV, they'll know the woman is the problem.

I was shocked reading what you wrote about domestic violence. Did you write it because you believe this opinion is valid / truthful?


Do you believe that yelling or that sort of threatening can justify men who beat their women and shift the guilt for violence from the attacker to the victim ?

[pitbull]

If I wanted to wipe the smile off a woman's face, I certainly am capable. That's not my goal but for those who are curious, I have given my wife bruises in the past. I'm too old to be horsing around but wife is young and forces me to play her game sometimes. She bites, scratches, pinches and sometimes she goes for and squeezes the family jewels to the point I have to grab her wrists or arms and hold her back.  The rougher she plays, the harder I've got to try to contain her.

Creepy  [size=78%] [/size]

[vwrw]

Yes, my brows lifted a couple of cms when I read what you quoted.

]Young kids of 3-5 years may play rough. However, by age 7, children stop playing rough, partly because they are instructed to play nice by their supervising adults and partly because kids get it that you cannot make friends by hurting those people you try to befriend.  I find it strange that a young woman would play that way.

It is also strange that Billy chooses to hurt the girl in return, instead of trying to help her understand what is going on with her and help her lose this unhealthy habit.

[Anotherkiwi]

Ranetka, it's a joke. If you come visit me, I will take you on a date to the local police station and request a background check done on me...

The serious members of the forum thank you for the clarification! 

IMBRA(International Marriage Broker Regulation Act), not VAWA forces disclosure of previous criminal conduct. The I-129F form for the k-1 fiancée visa asks men if they ever been convicted of a major crime. Of course people can lie. I don't know if our government verifies if someone tells the truth or lie but it's not against the law for current and former criminals to marry.


Now if a man uses a marriage agency, he must supply a police report to the marriage agency that's facilitating the meeting between the man and woman and that agency must show it to the woman prior to meeting the man. I used a dating site so I did not need to supply a police certificate for my wife or ex fiancée to view before meeting.

As only a tiny miniscule percentage of marriages are international, and only a tiny miniscule percentage of those marriages result in violence, should not all marriages be subject to the same scrutiny?  Just sayin'...

If a woman gets a man's records and finds him a criminal, it's still her choice to marry him.

True, but I was just wondering if there was anything in this legislation which would prevent it.

[Slumba]

I was shocked reading what you wrote about domestic violence. Did you write it because you believe this opinion is valid / truthful?


Do you believe that yelling or that sort of threatening can justify men who beat their women and shift the guilt for violence from the attacker to the victim ?

Since I haven't dated any 911 phone operators, I can't speak to exactly what BillyB says... however, it is a well known fact, that the percentage of men who abuse women, and women who abuse men, are roughly equal.

A fact for which Erin Pizzey, the woman who opened the very first "women's shelter" was excoriated and even received death threats over (from the feminist side): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

[vwrw]

Since I haven't dated any 911 phone operators, I can't speak to exactly what BillyB says... however, it is a well known fact, that the percentage of men who abuse women, and women who abuse men, are roughly equal.

I am not sure where you come from with that statistic. According to BJS, From 1994 to 2010, about 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female (75%), and Females ages 18 to 34 generally experienced the highest rates of intimate partner violence.

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4536

[Turboguy]

I have always pictured domestic violence as being more commonly the man abusing the woman.  I also am sure there are many cases of women abusing men.  Men can be somewhat vulnerable to this since many are taught never to hit a woman no matter what which makes them easy prey.

I do really think the statistics on reported cases of domestic abuse may be slightly inaccurate when it comes to who is the abused, the man or the woman.  I have a feeling many men would be ashamed to report abuse and would be more likely to just suck it up.

[TomT]

I am not sure where you come from with that statistic. According to BJS, From 1994 to 2010, about 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female (75%), and Females ages 18 to 34 generally experienced the highest rates of intimate partner violence.

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4536

This was the first hit in a Google search:


http://neurologicalcorrelates.com/wordpress/2008/11/21/friday-dysfunctional-roundup-33-of-all-men-murdered-are-murdered-by-ex-wives-ooops-i-meant-women-murdered-by-ex-husbands/


"For men, 1.9% of males murdered were murdered by intimates. For women, its 33% of women murdered."

[fathertime]

I have always pictured domestic violence as being more commonly the man abusing the woman.  I also am sure there are many cases of women abusing men.  Men can be somewhat vulnerable to this since many are taught never to hit a woman no matter what which makes them easy prey.

I do really think the statistics on reported cases of domestic abuse may be slightly inaccurate when it comes to who is the abused, the man or the woman.  I have a feeling many men would be ashamed to report abuse and would be more likely to just suck it up.

This makes sense to me...


I'm of the feeling that if attacked on the street by anyone, I am going to do everything I can to retaliate...as far as abuse in a marriage, for me, the first real physical abuse woman to man, or man to woman,  would be the end of the marriage....imo it is a no-win situation to remain, but i think some people are a little more tolerant...if that is the right word. 
Fathertime! 

[Slumba]

I am not sure where you come from with that statistic. According to BJS, From 1994 to 2010, about 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female (75%), and Females ages 18 to 34 generally experienced the highest rates of intimate partner violence.

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4536

There is plenty of it, a google search for "rates of domestic violence men and women" easily turns up articles and abstracts such as :

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence  , quoting stats from the British government

Data from Home Office statistical bulletins and the British Crime Survey show that men made up about 40% of domestic violence victims each year between 2004-05 and 2008-09, the last year for which figures are available. In 2006-07 men made up 43.4% of all those who had suffered partner abuse in the previous year, which rose to 45.5% in 2007-08 but fell to 37.7% in 2008-09.

or this, from the USA:

http://www.nij.gov/publications/pages/publication-detail.aspx?ncjnumber=181867 

which projects an estimate, based on 16,000 interviews, of 1.5 million women and 835,000 men nationwide, which is about 35% men of the total of DV sufferers? 

There is plenty more evidence - did you happen to read the Pizzey link on Wikipedia that I posted?

[Slumba]

This was the first hit in a Google search:

No one is discussing murder - so I don't really see the point of your post? 

[die_cast]

Creepy 

К психологу девочке надо, что уж там.