I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)

[Faux Pas]

I got your back here SJ. 

I ain't no squealer or rat, but there isn't one "man" on this forum who wouldn't want to know or be told/warned that he was about to marry the FSU town whore.

So IMHO, there isn't any reason to believe that a nice FSU girl shouldn't be aware of the fact that she just married the village creep. 

GOB

Hyia GOB! Good to see you posting again

[Doll]

you are right for the most part, but you are missing one thing.  motive.   while all the info is available, someone must have a reason to collect it all and present it to the woman. To do such a thing, one would have to be bored as hell  AND pure evil, or more likely it's someone Riv has pissed off and been fueding with, someone who want to get (revenge, justice, even...) for something.

Almost any RW's (who reads the forum) motive could be to let Irina be aware of Riv's background. "Pure evil" is the one who hides this infor from a woman IMHO.
This person just sent her a link I think.
No revenge- just girls stick together.
One more time- it is very easy to find Irina. I myself saw her profile on Poltava site.
Thousands of people who read the forum did same or could do same.
 

[newjason]

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No probelm

[Faux Pas]

Let's clear up all this bullshit right now.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/for-him-dating-c583256.html

I'll break it down a little
Tim is Bucaneer (Tampa Bay) hmm
 
read the complaint and the responses.

Everything is all bullshit, just like the guys here said it was.

I suspect there was no woman at all.

Jason, this seems to be quite a leap. I don't see anything at all there pertaining to riv  and furthermore  no connection that riv is buccaneer. WTF did this come from?

[Doll]

Jason, what is your link about?

[newjason]

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[Jumper]

Almost any RW's (who reads the forum) motive could be to let Irina be aware of Riv's background. Pure eveil is the one who hides this infor from a woman IMHO.
This person just sent her a link I think.
No revenge- just girls stick together.
One more time- it is very easy to find Irina. I myself saw her profile on Poltava site.
Thousands of people who read the forum did same or could do same.

Doll,
I'm no detective and just  curious..
Since I know many Irina's, my wifes name is Irina, (and i think you know a few Irina's? )
and the name couldn't possibly be more common in FSU/ Ukraine.
Only a few thousand Irina's in poltova, and more than a few at any given agency?

I cant see how anyone would easily know which Irina it was?


Thousands of people could not do the same without gleaning her age,occupation and other clues from his T/r and even then it would be a guess at best?
Those thousands  would have zero motive to do that or any motive to then go forward to contact her.


It seems just  weird.












 

[Doll]

Jumper, out of pure curiosity I googled "Irina, 30 yo, Poltava" (months ago) and I got her profile right away.
Plus we had her pic posted here by Tim. 99.99% accuracy.
(I am Irina too))))))))))
Bottom line ( and I was screaming years ago!)- do not post on the board the infor that can hurt you.
 

[Doll]

Motive? It is easy. If "I" am a Ukrainian girl (or Russian- doesn't matter), "I" feel bad for the girl.
The one who knows what it is- to come to marry the guy with "unknown" background, will feel bad for Irina.
I bet you $20 dollars, there are more than one women who would do it.
One more time- many (I mean MANY) FSU women read this board.

[newjason]

Doll, 
You are correct.  I will save my $20 and agree that Riv  will get what he deserves.

[Faux Pas]

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/for-him-dating-c583256.html?page=3

read the post by alex Pinto

Jason,

I still don't see the connection. There are more than one guy named Tim. Alex's description doesn't fit the description of our hero. riv has enough crap about him out there that is true. I don't think this is but, of course I have been wrong before

[Doll]

Jason,

I still don't see the connection. There are more than one guy named Tim. Alex's description doesn't fit the description of our hero. riv has enough crap about him out there that is true. I don't think this is but, of course I have been wrong before

Agree.

[GoodOlBoy]

Jason, I still don't see the connection. There are more than one guy named Tim. Alex's description doesn't fit the description of our hero. riv has enough crap about him out there that is true. I don't think this is but, of course I have been wrong before

Soooo... let's ask his beer drinking buddy:
 

Hey Tim, r u back in FL? Let's have a beer sometime.

Hyia GOB!

Back at you FP! 
 
GOB
 
 

[Jumper]

Jumper, out of pure curiosity I googled "Irina, 30 yo, Poltava" (months ago) and I got her profile right away.
Plus we had her pic posted here by Tim. 99.99% accuracy.
(I am Irina too))))))))))
Bottom line ( and I was screaming years ago!)- do not post on the board the infor that can hurt you.

Well I never saw him post a photo of his romantic interests,
so yes that makes more sense that someone could easily find her then.


I knew you were Irina, its why I had the wink icon in there about the name being known to you
 
As for others motivation, 
I'll take your word for it..
but mostly would hope that posters  assume grown  adults can  figure things out on their own.

[pitbull]

One more time- it is very easy to find Irina. I myself saw her profile on Poltava site.
Thousands of people who read the forum did same or could do same.

Doll,
Do you think she is the blond with long straight hair and blue eyes?
This one?
http://ussr-star.com/dating-profile-beautiful-miss-Irina-Poltava-315259.html
 
 
 

[Doll]

Maybe

[Jack]

I hate to be the one to break-up a good conspiracy    but being in a position where I KNOW certain information,  I feel I need to share.

First thing, this Alex in Poltava, he is a good man.  He is being slandered by an absolute loser.

Second thing, this Tim mentioned in the link provided by Jason is indeed a 100% loser but it is NOT Riv.

Jason, you have made a mistake.

[Gator]

I hate to be the one to break-up a good conspiracy    but being in a position where I KNOW certain information,  I feel I need to share.

First thing, this Alex in Poltava, he is a good man.  He is being slandered by an absolute loser.

Second thing, this Tim mentioned in the link provided by Jason is indeed a 100% loser but it is NOT Riv.

Jason, you have made a mistake.

Must agree with you Jack.  This complainer named Buccaneer does not sound like Tim. 
 
I never gave much credence to those who complain about $20-30 extra per night for an apartment, a vetted apartment.  Sounds like a cheapskate.  While Tim (like most of us) has many faults, being a cheapskate is not one of them.
 
Did you see the three women in the photo attached to the complaint.  The two blondes look tough as nails, and the redhead is sweeeeet.  But whom am I to judge a book by its cover!

[Gator]

So IMHO, there isn't any reason to believe that a nice FSU girl shouldn't be aware of the fact that she just married the village creep. 

GOB

Pragmatic point.  But Tim had already decided that the two of them were not compatible.   
 
The consensus among RWD members was that Tim should disclose his past to a particular FSUW if he is getting serious.  It will be far better if Tim explains it and answers her ever question rather than have a rat squeal to her first.  In fact, knowing FSUW mentality, there is nothing Tim could do to turn this one around once the rat whispered into her ear.
 
Good to see you back.  Did Governor Scott give you an early release?   

[Gator]

Doll,
Do you think she is the blond with long straight hair and blue eyes?
This one?
http://ussr-star.com/dating-profile-beautiful-miss-Irina-Poltava-315259.html

Doesn't look like the photos I saw of Irina.  Resembles her younger sister, however. 
 
I should note that I have seen for a few RW that photos can differ remarkably, as if they were taken of different women.

[ghost of moon goddess]

I thought it might be interesting for those concerned in a further investigation into «Riv's case» 

Quoted from Re: Red Flags and Green Lights

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Again, if you develop relationship with local agency owners - and are realistic and well mannered and do not behave like a PIG - then it is possible to get very good, sincere service. I HAVE.  I would be happy to PM those interested with my contacts.  I do not want to post a bunch of contact information on a public site, because it will look like I am sponsoring and pushing people.  I do not want the commercial members here to start pitching a fit.  (However, I must remark that I have thought Eduard's approach makes more and more sense to me for most guys that need a wing man).

There is one company that is worthy of a special mention.  www.FHDating.com  This guy and his company are different.  He has helped me often.  He let me work in one of his offices a couple days when my internet was down.  He volunteer to buy me a train ticket this week when he was in Kiev. And, all the while I have not been a paying client. He has made no money on me, nor has he hassled me. He is from Portugal, but married a woman from Poltava. They live here happily and have a baby.   He runs an apartment rental company, travel agency and support service AND a selective marriage agency www.FHDating.com   HE IS DIFFERENT.  You will not see his best girls on the site.  Why? Because they do not want their photos on the internet on a dating agency. They understand the social taboos.  He has a big mirror in his office and he often tells clients to look in the mirror (this happens when a 60 year old, out of shape man enters saying he is sincere and looking for a wife ... then selects women 19 - 24 year olds with model quality looks LOL)  He works rather closely with the man and woman during the introduction phase.  I have met 3 guys that have used his service and are now waiting with their fiances for the visa process to be completed.   They are damn happy.
....

Maybe the answer to your question can be found on Complaints Board, on which some  FHD..'s Customers kindly posted their "testimonials" ?!   

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/for-him-dating-a416489.html

...
People that make money in the MOB industry have many translators and web people and it is sort of a clusterF$% of "He Said / She Said"  It is impossible to sort out the truth, the lies, and how is on a vendetta. 

My post shows my experience only.  I have not profit motive, so do not question my motives.   

ADULTS SHOULD READ THIS AND OTHER MATERIAL AND MAKE UP THERE OWN MIND

[JayH]

Motive? It is easy. If "I" am a Ukrainian girl (or Russian- doesn't matter), "I" feel bad for the girl.
The one who knows what it is- to come to marry the guy with "unknown" background, will feel bad for Irina.
I bet you $20 dollars, there are more than one women who would do it.
One more time- many (I mean MANY) FSU women read this board.

 
I have checked on guys for girls in UKR . Men from western EU,USA,Australia . To me that is absoloutely appropriate. I have also checked on girls in FSU for guys.Information needs carefull handling as jumping to a conclusion with inadequete information is dangerous. Think about how many guys complain about 'scam" in whatever form and are suspicious of girls-- but then resent the idea of information being 2 way.

[ghost of moon goddess]

Motive? It is easy. If "I" am a Ukrainian girl (or Russian- doesn't matter), "I" feel bad for the girl.
The one who knows what it is- to come to marry the guy with "unknown" background, will feel bad for Irina.
I bet you $20 dollars, there are more than one women who would do it.
One more time- many (I mean MANY) FSU women read this board.

"Il y a une femme dans toutes les affaires,.... Cherchez la femme!"

[BC]

Just jumping back in with an 'I'm not surprised' note.

When I was in high school such happened.. gossip about bf or gf from other students, maybe even teacher if there was some problem like drugs etc involved.
When I lived in town and dated girls locally.. neighbors and friends would chip in with their gossip and hints.

That all this extends to the inet, especially with social sites like facebook, vk, etc etc, even this one it is sure to happen, on a much broader scale.

Par for the course for this brave new world.. for kids nowadays normalna.

My tip, get used to it.

[Doll]

"Il y a une femme dans toutes les affaires,.... Cherchez la femme!"

Sure