Do Average Guy stand a chance in MOB

[Vasilisa]

Vasilisa, since you have dated guys from the subcontinent what are the problems you would term as major limiting factors.

The problems?! Everything!!! Pretty much everything with them is a problem:  their cultural and religious background, their attitude towards women, the way they treat women and people, their attitude towards their parents and their family, the food they eat, the way they want to raise kids, complete lie, a lot of really sweet words and compliments that have nothing to do with the actions, etc. Most RW I know have  nothing in common with this guys at all. At the same time they all are sure that they have nothing in common with AW but have a lot in common with the RW. I have no idea where they have heard it.

From my observation  even  Queen Elizabeth  has more in common with a Pakistani. The exception could be if the girls are extremely into Asian culture and have lived somewhere, buddhists, moslems, etc.

PS: the Dubai guy I was dating whose profile said "single" was married in Dubai and had 2 kids. but he persuaded me that being a Christian I misunderstood the principle of being single as it is alloweed to have more than 1 wife! This explain A LOT!!! That was a huge relief!!!lol
All they want is to brag with having a white girl (and they tell you a lot of comliments about your light eyes or white skin or tell about their sister whose skin is very light, or ask about your ex boy friends if they were white ) as a girl friend or as a wife.

[Slumba]

I guess moral of story is I should concentrate on things I am good at and maybe give dating a miss.

What?!

I will tell you what I have observed, I apologize if this is a long post...

What do women really want? 

STIMULUS that they will then RESPOND to. (please do not read anything sexual into this, it is not what I am talking about)

It is the man's job to provide the stimulus, once they have shown that they find him acceptable.  Then, the woman will respond.

This is why "bad boys" for all their faults, will still get women - they provide stimulus and the woman responds to it.  The nice guy, who is maybe too shy or lacks confidence, does not give out enough stimulus to keep the woman interested.

I am 41, but have been hanging around in a social environment with some of my younger nieces and nephews and their friends. 

It is really, really obvious to me now, that the ones who pay some attention to the young women and provide an opening for the women to in turn, respond to them, are the ones that get attention.

So what you need to do, is shorten the length of time between observing something (like a woman smiling at you) and then being able to respond (provide stimulus) into the social situation you are in. 

That is why women hate it when guys just hang around them without saying something interesting - they are giving you the chance to be the man (stimulus) and you are destroying the ability for them to respond.

This is something you can learn to do. 

It is a practice, just like exercising your body with weights, that you can get better at with time and a little bit of instruction.

My last piece of advice to you is, don't give up, and DON'T SETTLE for the first woman that comes along and smiles at you - in all likelihood, she is not "the one".

[Vasilisa]

 

It is really, really obvious to me now, that the ones who pay some attention to the young women and provide an opening for the women to in turn, respond to them, are the ones that get attention.

I almost had to call the police on a lot  older American guy who was paying too much attention to me not long time ago. Somehow he decided that I am into older guys and the fact that I am from Russia means that the sexual assault law can not be applied. So I'd be careful with the way you pay attention.

[newjason]

My real life experience tells me that you have a pretty good chance of finding love in the FSU.
29 is a good age so you shouldn't have to deal with older women with kids at all and just focus on women in their 20s. Be prepaired that it is going to take more time because you are not Caucasian, but still very realistic in my experience. There is a number of Caucasian FSU women who wouldn't mind marrying outside of their race plus there are plenty of FSU women who are Asian and racially mixed. All you really have to do is focus on girls who are more average looking. Many of them have very limited options when it comes to local FSU men so some of them will give you a chance because the alternative would be to settle for a local guy who drinks too much, cheats too often and may be physically abusive. These girls are not local men's first choice so it goes with the territory.


A lot depends on how you approach them and what you say to them in your letters. You can make a girl fall in love with you just for the way you write and she will be patient and caring to you when you meet and date in real life. She will teach you everything you have the lack of experience in and she will love you and take care of you and you will do the same for her. Many of these average looking girls would love to have a man who they can trust and call their own. And many of the average looking girls make a much better wife and partner in life than beautiful women.
You wrote that you are well off financially so money shouldn't be an issue, just don't be stingy with RW they despise cheap men. Money is good to have, but money only buys things, it can't buy happiness. But you can use money to find the person who will bring love and happiness into your life.
Some here will try to discourage you, but I KNOW that it can be done. It is really up to you. Good luck.
Ed

Ed , please do tell about your real life experience being another race and how many women responded to you when you were no longer Caucasian...

[Vasilisa]

Dear Ed,

I guess Vasilisa has raised some genuine concerns. However, I never thought about India, China or South East Asia for the simple reason these parts of the world do not have an established MOB industry(at least to my knowledge).

Oh, yeah, they did and it's HUGE , I'd say I meet a lot more Asian wives here than Slavic and I am sure it's the same in Australia. And if you don't know about it you can just google "indian wives" or "asian wives"

http://www.filipinawives.com.au/page4/immigration.html
http://www.filipinocupid.com/?ovchn=GGL&ovcpn=English+USA+Search+Partners+Philippines+Wife&ovcrn=philippines+wife&ovtac=PPC&New&gclid=CMmRo82U6bICFSOnPAodXGYAkQ

http://www.asianbeauties.com/?gclid=cm6xy-wu6bicfbkipaodvlqa1w

http://www.indiancupid.com/?ovchn=GGL&ovcpn=English+USA+Search+Partners+Indian+Wife&ovcrn=indian+wives&ovtac=PPC&gclid=CLHHxfiU6bICFSWoPAodYU4A3w

http://desikiss.com/?affiliateID=ADa_In_en_gg_S-US_Indian-Women&gclid=COaSjpqV6bICFcKPPAodC1QAqg

http://www.chinawomendating.com/?afid=16618&gclid=CMaMjbCV6bICFayPPAodfA0A7g

http://www.loveme.com/women/china/china-women.htm

It took me less than 5 minutes:)

[Vasilisa]

Sorry for  but was looking at the "opponents":
http://www.loveme.com/women/china/china-women.htm
She is 48!!! and has a 21 yo daughter. Of course the profile says she has a middle school education and the job title  is empty.

[Eduard]

Sorry for  but was looking at the "opponents":
http://www.loveme.com/women/china/china-women.htm
She is 48!!! and has a 21 yo daughter. Of course the profile says she has a middle school education and the job title  is empty.

I thought they had terrible shortage of women in China. How can they afford to export them???

[Eduard]

Ed , please do tell about your real life experience being another race and how many women responded to you when you were no longer Caucasian...

Jason, the nature of the business that I'm in allows me to work with men of different national origins and ethnic backgrounds. I have worked with Indian men so I do know exactly what kind of response they got from FSU women.

[Vasilisa]

I thought they had terrible shortage of women in China. How can they afford to export them???

I clicked several pictures and all job titles are empty and the education is high school, can anybody explain that?
What do these women do?

[newjason]

lol
I'll give you 3 guesses....

[Vasilisa]

lol
I'll give you 3 guesses....

Well... I have read about the tours to China and I am interested now, do they have Chinese men profiles over there?!

"DO: When communicating with the women, provide realistic expectations of them Don't expect to approach this process any differently than you would a normal date or romantic situation. These women are just as interested in meeting someone great as you are. Instead of coming up with unrealistic expectations of the women you meet, be sure to differentiate between those that are realistic and those that are unrealistic. Determine your most important factors and be sure to search for those; for the other expectations that might not be as important, keep them in the back of your mind but don't end a good relationship because of them.
"

"DON'T: Do not take her on a shopping date. If you do, it will imply something about the relationship that you both probably want to avoid. You will be hurting yourself by either insulting a woman you are interested in or attracting a woman who is only interested in your money. If you avoid shopping dates you will spend your time together talking and getting to know one-another's personalities. By showering her with empty gifts, she will get an incorrect perception of your personality and will expect that kind of treatment in the future. This kind of situation is bad for everyone involved as the relationship will probably end over time. "

Wow, they have shopping dates in China?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
"How much spending money will I need?
We have found that most of our clients are very comfortable with a budget of between $700 and $1,000. Some spend more than that and some will spend less, it really depends on your taste. Our host cities are all fairly large with attractions and outlets for a variety of tastes and income levels"

[Slumba]

At one time I looked into Chinese, but decided the culture was too foreign to me... however the site chnlove.com seemed to be one worth checking out.

[newjason]

LOL

ok, well I've only been there 1 time and that was in 2008 with my ex for the Olympic games. And that very much seemed like a shopping date.
we both were shopping for all  things Chinese, mementos and art and such.
Got some beautiful silk PJ's and some great memories and photos.
I bought a  sanxian and its beautiful. I love it

But anyway,
Guess again..



BTW
There is very little they do not have in China, except multiple children.

[Belvis]

I have dated an Indian guy, a Pakistanian guy and a guy from Dubai and I know the answer.

From what Vasilisa has written above I conclude viny1984 has a chance for an one date, at least.
Really, why not?
There is an effective method to teach a kid swimming. Just cast him in deep water, and he'll start to swimm somehow saving himself instinctively.
OP may visit a remote siberian town in winter on a WOVO trip. If he'll manage to get back home intact he'll be a slightly different person who has no serious hurdles to date local girls.

[Daveman]

From what Vasilisa has written above I conclude viny1984 has a chance for an one date, at least.
Really, why not?
There is an effective method to teach a kid swimming. Just cast him in deep water, and he'll start to swimm somehow saving himself instinctively.
OP may visit a remote siberian town in winter on a WOVO trip. If he'll manage to get back home intact he'll be a slightly different person who has no serious hurdles to date local girls.

Heh... I agree with this...   I also agree with Ed in the Thread.   If the OP wants to find a 'white centerfold' lady in Moscow he'll have a rough go of it. No doubt about that in my mind.


If he's not Quasimodo (though that'd be okay too if he drives a Lamborghini), about the only thing standing between him and a rich dating life *anywhere* is his (seemingly excessive) lack of confidence. 

[Lily]

  However, I never thought about India, China or South East Asia for the simple reason these parts of the world do not have an established MOB industry(at least to my knowledge).
 

Viny, may I ask a question on this post. Why existence of the MOB industry is important for you?
How the MOB way of dating is different from any other dating, in your view?

[newjason]

Maybe because the MOB Industry has painted a picture that would lead a person to believe that
It's an easy way to get a wife. Simple as 1 - 2 - 3

1. Look at pretty pictures and choose the one you want.
2. Come meet her , ask her to marry..
3. Six months later a Crate arrives UPS and you simply un wrap her.


So easy a caveman could do it.



or not.

[Chelseaboy]

viny1984,
 
               I lived and worked in Thailand 14 years ago,for a period of 10 months,and i can confirm there were plenty of marriage agencies in Bangkok.The agencies will be more internet-based now i'd assume,but i'm sure the interest for foreign men as potential husbands will still be strong there.
Also,if you want to gain experience of dealing with girls,Thailand is a good place to start.
There is a well-known phrase "You need never be lonely in Bangkok".
There are also plenty of Russian girls in Thailand,especially in Pattaya,where there is a large Russian community.
 
Like Vasilisa has said, i see FAR more Asian wives here in the UK than slavic,and i actually talk with many people daily through my work,so i'm not just talking about appearance.
Actually,coming across a slavic woman married to a UK man is rather a rare event,and i meet hundreds of people from all social status every week,which should tell all us guys looking for a FSU wife something.
 
However,as Vasilisa has also said regarding her experience with dating Asian men,Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi men were not generally liked by Thai women either,because of the lies told by these men.
Basically,these Asian men like to fool around with girls,until their families marry them off to a "nice" girl from their own culture.
So,if you intend to pursue any foreign women i'd suggest you clarify your honesty at a very early stage with them,by doing what you say you will do.
 
Is your attraction for FSU women due to them being white-skinned ?
If so,Asian women will not of course appeal to you anyway,but you're really jumping into the deep end of the pool looking for a wife in the FSU,so i hope you're a strong swimmer.
Those girls will soon pick-up any sign of weakness in you,and they'll eat you alive.
 

[Patagonie]

And for what i know of the arabic culture (i had been raised in this culture), in accordance to what Vassilia said, FSU women will expect many problems, she had made a good summarize of the problemS. FSU women are for me the true modern feminist and they are not going to support this type of behavior from a guy raised and who lived in an islamic country.