Trying to find out if she is real...

[LoneWolf]

I have seen 'ladyboys' in webcams and also have seen many ladyboys in Cupid site, deny that they are ladyboys lol

Seriously?  This happens a lot?  As if worrying about scammers isn't enough!

I prefer the old fashioned method of getting on a plane to get that. 

I would too... but what an expensive venture if you find out she's not real!

[Shadow]

I would too... but what an expensive venture if you find out she's not real!

If its too expensive to make an extra trip, you have to wonder about all of the venture. Even if you have contact over webcam that is no guarantee things will work out.

[Eduard]

where do you live, LW?


It's sad when you find out that you've invested emotionally in a relationship with a scammer. I'm often asked to take a look at the correspondence with a Russian woman to evaluate whether she is for real or running a scam (a native Russian speaker who has experience with this sort of thing can tell pretty easily). Normally it's very sad to read a guy's letters where he is spilling his guts and completely falls in love with a fantasy while the person on the other end is just pushing all the right buttons to get the desired response. But sometimes scammer's letters are fun to read! Just today I was helping this one guy and his "lady" (who was setting him up for the kill) wrote to him:


" I can not pay for my trip, unfortunately. I myself feel a deep frustration in the shower, but we have to live with it"
(ML, are you reading this? You should like this one a lot! LOL    )


I had a good laugh (and just read it to my wife she almost fell down on the floor laughing!). Just so you guys understand, she probably wrote "frustration в душе (in my soul)" in Russian, but an electronic translator interpreted it as в душе - "in the shower". The word is spelled the same for soul and shower, but the imphasys is on a different vowel. But how would an e-translator know that? 

[Gator]

I have seen 'ladyboys' in webcams and also have seen many ladyboys in Cupid site, deny that they are ladyboys lol

I received this person (see photo) from different names many times  - no webcam!  You can tell that she is a ladyboy lol

Why is she a ladyboy?  Her breasts?    Her breasts seem natural or  brand new.  Although uncommon, some Asian women have large breasts.
 

[Gator]

Well, some of  the guys here voted that the breast is most attractive to them, so maybe they don't care what is in the panties.   Could be acceptable to them.

I know such a man.  Years ago on a golfing trip, he met a strange lookimg "woman."  He told the rest of us the next day that the "woman" gave him a blowjob.  All of us said he was crazy, and he responded that the blowjob was so good, he did not care if "it" was a woman or not.      He is one twisted dude.

[CDW]

Why is she a ladyboy?  Her breasts?    Her breasts seem natural or  brand new.  Although uncommon, some Asian women have large breasts.

Take a good look at her - do not look only on her (oops I mean his) breasts lol

[Manny]

I would too... but what an expensive venture if you find out she's not real!

There are many services out there that help you with this. If the mods permit the link, my wife does such: Verification and Evaluation Calls

There are many others who will offer a similar service. Any competent interpreter will be able to give you decent feedback after a three way call.

Fretting about Skype and webcams is putting the cart before the horse. Use terps to remove language barriers. Use telephones to establish regular contact. Then go visit and see what happens.

What do you think people did when many of these women didn't have internet dongles, webcams and Skype? Many of us still managed to get married........

Scammers don't want to waste time talking about fluffy crap with hopeful swains; nor do they want to be busted by experienced terps. They just want to send cozy home emails and a few bikini shots of some chick in the hope some dumb westerner send some cash via Western Union for sick Granny.

[ML]

"I myself feel a deep frustration in the shower, but we have to live with it"
(ML, are you reading this? You should like this one a lot! )

Yes, this is where I can be of much help to any woman.

A couple of suggestions:

1) Get a shower head that is portable (on a long extension) and that has adjustable nozzle.  Put it on the small jet that pulsates.  Guaranteed to end frustration . . . but unfortunately only works for females.

2) After shower, dry off completely, get comfortable in bed, and THEN use the vibrator.  Can be shockingly dangerous to use in the shower!!

[Eduard]

Yes, this is where I can be of much help to any woman.

A couple of suggestions:

1) Get a shower head that is portable (on a long extension) and that has adjustable nozzle.  Put it on the small jet that pulsates.  Guaranteed to end frustration . . . but unfortunately only works for females.

2) After shower, dry off completely, get comfortable in bed, and THEN use the vibrator.  Can be shockingly dangerous to use in the shower!!

I just knew you'd have somethinguseful to contribute! 

[jone]

I just knew you'd have somethinguseful to contribute! 

Really?  I must have missed it.

[Doll]

" I can not pay for my trip, unfortunately. I myself feel a deep frustration in
the shower, but we have to live with it"

I am on the floor too!

[Doll]

I just knew you'd have somethinguseful to contribute! 

OMG! Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa!

[mies]

So far, I haven't found any way to prove she is who she says she is... nor have I found a way to disprove it.  Does anyone have any helpful ideas?  Or am I being too paranoid?


Thanks!


LW

Send her a gift:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007794%2050001080&IsNodeId=1&Description=webcam&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

About $30 for cam, another $15-20 for shipping to Ukraine + 3$ for postcard to include in package.
For the price of decent dinner you'll get your doubts resolved.

[mies]

I have to disagree with you there.  If she is really serious about meeting him, she needs to work harder to make it work without ever receiving money, gift card, or what you have mentioned.    If she is fake, then LW would still waste $100. 

Next girl please........... another $100

Next please .............. another $100

After 10 girls, at last, total cost $1,000 !!!

If you own business, or is a manager of a job, and would you buy ladies/men uniform just for interviews?

Some businesses though do pay their candidates to come to the interview (cover the cost of the trip).

[mikeyUSA]

I'll tell you, from what I've learned so far, from being kicked around from others here, is to make absolutely sure to see her on webcam.  Do it many times, and also, to have at least 3 women lined up for this "date", if you do fly out.

Also, do this because these trips are time consuming and expensive.  Do not put your eggs into one basket.  Also, you can only take so long off of work.

[jone]

Mikey,

Welcome to the world outside of your demise.  It is nice to see you walking around and not being fed introvenously.  Join the conversation.  If misery loves company, you will do very well on this site.

This will be a great balm to heal your hurting heart.

-j

[LoneWolf]

Hi, everyone!


Sorry I've been away.  I was going to come back when I had something useful to report... and so far, there hasn't been.  We used to write to each other daily, but it's been about a week since I've heard from her... but she's also been gone from the dating site for about a week as well.  So she might have gone out of town or something.


I didn't want you guys to think I wasn't going to give you an update. 


LW

[CDW]

I'll tell you, from what I've learned so far, from being kicked around from others here, is to make absolutely sure to see her on webcam.  Do it many times, and also, to have at least 3 women lined up for this "date", if you do fly out.

Also, do this because these trips are time consuming and expensive.  Do not put your eggs into one basket.  Also, you can only take so long off of work.

or you can have a Plan B when you go on trips.

[LoneWolf]

Hey guys.  I'm not trying to necro this thread or anything, but I wanted to let you know that I still haven't heard anything from her for over two months.  I tried to write back a couple of times, but no response.  Maybe she was real, maybe she wasn't.  And if she was real, maybe she lost interest or found someone else.  I guess I'll never know. But thanks for the advice everyone. I've been pursuing someone else now, and she seems much more of a possibility... and we've already talked on cam!  Wish me luck!   

[ML]

. . . I still haven't heard anything from her for over two months.  I tried to write back a couple of times, but no response.

Why do guys do this??

There are only a million or so FSU women out there.

[anm8tr]

Hey guys.  I'm not trying to necro this thread or anything, but I wanted to let you know that I still haven't heard anything from her for over two months.  I tried to write back a couple of times, but no response.  Maybe she was real, maybe she wasn't.  And if she was real, maybe she lost interest or found someone else.  I guess I'll never know. But thanks for the advice everyone. I've been pursuing someone else now, and she seems much more of a possibility... and we've already talked on cam!  Wish me luck!   

I just went through the same thing this past summer. I was writing a girl I had met in person in Ukraine two years ago and she just seemed to disappear. I was pretty bummed out too, after sending texts, emails and making a few phone calls but could not seem to get a hold of her. Then I called one more time and she answered and her attitude had completely changed. I never did figure out what happened. She did go to Thailand for a shoot so she claims and according to the photos she sent me. I tried to question her in person just recently but I never got a realistic response. Anyway, I  just had the time of my life after seeing her again just recently. She speaks fluent English, so there has never been any translation issues for me. She has never asked me for anything monetarily, so if she has ulterior motives, I haven't figured out what they could be other than being an emotional friend.


Yes, there are several 1000 others you can contact.

[mendeleyev]

 

She did go to Thailand for a shoot so she claims and according to the photos she sent me. I tried to question her in person just recently but I never got a realistic response. Anyway, I  just had the time of my life after seeing her again just recently. She speaks fluent English, so there has never been any translation issues for me. She has never asked me for anything monetarily, so if she has ulterior motives, I haven't figured out what they could be other than being an emotional friend.

Were she really a model she'd have already been all over the topic of her continued career prospects upon moving to your country. Is this a career you've discussed previously or did she just happen to fall into modeling work without letting you know and her first assignment took her off to Thailand?

As you've not obtained a realist response here is a very likely translation: I went to Thailand with a guy who took tons of photos. I don't wish to hurt your feelings so didn't include the shots of he and I together. He was fun and bought me some nice things but for several reasons it isn't going to work out. So, since it seems that you've not been able to attract anyone else, maybe we can restart our relationship and unless someone more interesting comes along we'll see what happens.

A woman who cared about what you thought would have prior to the trip given you the details of "the shoot" and sent you an email or two while on location letting you know that you were in her thoughts. If the two of you had previously met she'd have emailed you daily but that is too much to expect prior to a meeting.

 

[anm8tr]

Were she really a model she'd have already been all over the topic of her continued career prospects upon moving to your country. Is this a career you've discussed previously or did she just happen to fall into modeling work without letting you know and her first assignment took her off to Thailand?

As you've not obtained a realist response here is a very likely translation: I went to Thailand with a guy who took tons of photos. I don't wish to hurt your feelings so didn't include the shots of he and I together. He was fun and bought me some nice things but for several reasons it isn't going to work out. So, since it seems that you've not been able to attract anyone else, maybe we can restart our relationship and unless someone more interesting comes along we'll see what happens.

A woman who cared about what you thought would have prior to the trip given you the details of "the shoot" and sent you an email or two while on location letting you know that you were in her thoughts. If the two of you had previously met she'd have emailed you daily but that is too much to expect prior to a meeting.

Actually I clarified her work situation a little better in a previous post. She is an accountant for a photo studio that does wedding, model, portrait and misc. photography according to her. She stated she has been modeling only part time the past 10 years or so. She models summer wear etc. I have an entire portfolio of over 40 photos that she has sent to me over the past two years from various jobs/locations as she claims.  She is asked several times a year to go on these assignments. I know she is there because she sends me SMS from the locations and I can see that the area code fits the country. Is it possible she is going there with someone else as a girlfriend or lover etc. ? It is certainly plausible and I have no way to know other than her word.


Right after I got her on the telephone last Sept, she told me she was leaving for Dubai for another shoot. She did text me from there and also sent me many photos when she got back. I have no reason not to believe her.  The problem was with last summer. She never wrote me all summer and we had zero communication. It was only later that she mentioned she went to Thailand again for a shoot. And that her mother had also been pretty sick over the summer and that she had been spending a lot of time working extra hours since her mom had not been working for awhile.


Does she have someone on the side? Maybe so, but boy did she make up for it and then some only less than a week ago. Maybe her she broke up with a guy and decided that I was a better choice. I just don't know for sure.

[mendeleyev]

Okay, that background makes it sound more reasonable. The long absence however should be a question mark that deserves exploring but again it depends on how many times you've met.

[jone]

Never go backwards.  Women don't!

You can never envision a grand love based on a relationship where she took a dump for month long breaks.  I have had some wonderful relationships with women, but once there is a reason to separate, I never imagine going back.

There is always something better around the next bend.  Good luck.

-j