First timer headed to Ukraine

[Gator]

Obviously, Gator, you are not from Wisconsin.

 

Not from there, but been there several times over decades (Madison, Milwaukee, Kohler, Appleton)..  A garden spot of the earth in the summer; however, the sheets there gave me a rash.

[jone]

Well said, Gator.   

[lonedrake]

Update. Things took a turn that I had not anticipated!

We are now engaged!

I will be back over in Ukraine to see her on July 10th.

Here is a pic that I wanted to delete...but she likes it. I call it beauty and the beast! (yes...I am the beast)lol

[Boethius]

Congratulations.  Lovely photo.  She looks like she adores you. 

[Anotherkiwi]

Update. Things took a turn that I had not anticipated!

We are now engaged!

Congratulations! 
 

Here is a pic that I wanted to delete...but she likes it. I call it beauty and the beast! (yes...I am the beast)lol

I agree with Boethius - you look so lucky that you'll have to remove the "lone" from drake...and you definitely have to change your status! 

[Ooooops]

Congrats!   

[Gator]

CONGRATULATIONS!   
 

Update. Things took a turn that I had not anticipated!

We are now engaged!

Does that mean she asked you?   
 

I will be back over in Ukraine to see her on July 10th.

Fantastic.  Take a completed G-325 for her signature plus have her sign her letter of intent.
 
Have you studied Visajourney?    http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

[mendeleyev]

Lonedrake, good news! Great photo, too.

[lonedrake]

Does that mean she asked you?   
 
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I will be back over in Ukraine to see her on July 10th.

Fantastic.  Take a completed G-325 for her signature plus have her sign her letter of intent.
 
Have you studied Visajourney?    http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

I skirted around it for so long......but finally she requested I bring documents with...to get married in Ukraine. My plan was to ask her on this trip....but I asked sooner than I planned.

I will be filing the K-1 after I return. We can fill out the paperwork together

I have read all about the K-1.We are going to buy some rings in Kiev.

I feel extremely blessed/lucky to have met her...and even more so to have her want me

[Patagonie]

Happy for you, really, very nice picture. Enjoy.
Thank you to have honestly shared all your story and feelings. I consideder that you have had the average life of an AW in FSU with odds which push you in a luckily end.
Take time to know her and enjoy.

[jone]

Where have I been?  Congratulations!

What a wonderful thing.

All the best for the two of you.

Jon

[dsbean]

Yay, great news!

Congrats! See, you've made the whole thing look so easy!

[lonedrake]

Thank you all!

you've made the whole thing look so easy!

 Well I would not say it was easy.....but I guess not really hard either. The thing is we are just engaged. There will be many challenges( I suspect) between now and happily married. I understand sh** can happen that derails the best of plans.

We talk everyday and it is still amazing to me that our values and sense of humor are so similar. I have often heard that FSUW rarely say thank you for anything. She is not like that at all. She is everything and more than I had hoped to find someday.

 Talk to me in 2-3 years and I will have a much better understanding of how "easy" it was.

[lonedrake]

Where have I been?

 Probably drunk celebrating the packers last super bowl win. Just another day for your average cheesehead

[calmissile]

Thank you all!


 Well I would not say it was easy.....but I guess not really hard either. The thing is we are just engaged. There will be many challenges( I suspect) between now and happily married. I understand sh** can happen that derails the best of plans.

We talk everyday and it is still amazing to me that our values and sense of humor are so similar. I have often heard that FSUW rarely say thank you for anything. She is not like that at all. She is everything and more than I had hoped to find someday.

 Talk to me in 2-3 years and I will have a much better understanding of how "easy" it was.

Congratulations to the both of you.  You two look great together.  My fiance and I are sharing the same bliss that you seem to be experiencing.  I can relate to your happiness.

Finding a partner with a compatible personality is perhaps the most important element and it seems you have done so.

Cheers!

[Wayne]

If she wants to get married in Ukraine, you have very different documents to bring with you.
 
Then you mention K-1. You cannot do a K-1 if you are married.

[lonedrake]

[quoteYou cannot do a K-1 if you are married.][/quote]

Correct. I explained all of this to her and we are doing the K-1 instead of getting married in Ukraine.

[GQBlues]

It's good you're filing a K-1 instead.

Lonedrake-

In as much I would always hoped the best for *most* everyone, and I wish you all the best, but understand I have never been a member of RWD's Rah-Rah Squad and this is why I'd like to drizzle a bit on your parade.

Less than a year ago, you were convinced enough about a gal you went head-on for to visit in Ukraine. Then when that fizzled, you went out with a back-up gal which you didn't like enough to commit and you came back home. Not a week after you started longing for the gal, again, enough to go back to see her again. And yet again, that fizzled. You went back home...

Then out of the blue, you got bit by another woman, and this time after visiting her, you're convinced she's the one. Great!

Just understand how very easy it is for many men to feel infatuated in this process. A RWG resident psychologist before pegged this state as Limerance. In many men's *desperation* to match up with a woman - due to having little or no alternative at home - they lose themselves to the idea and not the objective of understanding the woman, knowing the woman, what she will be - and NOT what she is right here and now - to you.


Methinks you simply like to fall for anyone, someone...

You at least owe yourself an equal amount of time to invest in further getting to know this woman. The same amount of time since you first met and visited the first *she's the one* to now. Maybe the K-1 period will be enough, maybe it won't. Time can either be your best friend, or your own worst enemy.

Choose wisely.

[Faux Pas]

It's good you're filing a K-1 instead.

Lonedrake-

In as much I would always hoped the best for *most* everyone, and I wish you all the best, but understand I haven't never been a member of RWD's Rah-Rah Squad, and this is why I'd like to drizzle a bit on your parade.

Less than a year ago, you were convinced enough about a gal you went head-on for to visit in Ukraine. Then when that fizzled, you went out with a back-up gal which you didn't like enough to commit and you came back home. Not a week after you started longing for the gal, again, enough to go back to see her again. And yet again, that fizzled. You went back home...

Then out of the blue, you got bit by another woman, and this time after visiting her, you're convinced she's the one. Great!

Just understand how very easy it is for many men to feel infatuated in this process. A RWG resident psychologist before pegged this state as Limerance. In many men's *desperation* to match up with a woman - due to having little or no alternative at home - they lose themselves to the idea and not the objective of understanding the woman, knowing the woman, what she will be - and NOT what she is right here and now - to you.


Methinks you simply like to fall for anyone, someone...

You at least owe yourself an equal amount of time to invest in further getting to know this woman. The same amount of time since you first met and visited the first *she's the one* to now. Maybe the K-1 period will be enough, maybe it won't. Time can either be your best friend, or your own worst enemy.

Choose wisely.

This is actually very sage advice. The K-1 is a rather short process in the grand scheme of things. You've decided to get married and I congratulate you. However, I caution you to not slow down your discovery and getting to know each other process. Plan more trips before pulling the trigger and saying "I do". As well as you think you know her and she you now, it is very deceiving. Caught in the whirlwind lust and romance many things get over looked, both big and small. Many of these things will not be revealed while you gaze googly eyed for many hours over Skype.

You are looking at least 8-15 months before she could have a K-1 in hand. Take this time to invest in the relationship and all it entails. Take even more time if you need to. All to often guys rush in like their ass in on fire then, the crash and burn comes later.

Good Luck!

[lonedrake]

 Hey you two......quit raining on my parade

Methinks you simply like to fall for anyone, someone.

If she has a pulse....we are good to go


 All kidding aside.....I agree with the general message. Lately(last month) I have been reading countless hours of archives. There was a debate about the k-1 and what OlgaH said made perfect sense. It does not matter....well not nearly as much... how many times I go to see her in her country. She will be moving here and the only way for her to experience living here with me(realistically) is to come over on a k-1.We intend to get married.....but we both understand it has to be right.....and the K-1 IMO gives us that opportunity to live together.

I do plan to go there in Nov and Jan.

It seems to fast to me also...but this is the path I choose and I feel comfortable about it.

As far as rushing to get married? Not sure. I have been pressured 4 times in the past and have never proposed.

 

[Ooooops]

K-1 is a sensible way to go, IMO.   What I don't understand is how some ppl get married (and even get pregnant) and then apply for K-3 visas after just a few visits to fiancee's country.   That's pure madness, methinks. 

[ML]

You say you don't understand how people get pregnant??

I don't either. 

I was always told it had something to do with swallowing a watermelon seed.

[Faux Pas]

Hey you two......quit raining on my parade

If she has a pulse....we are good to go


 All kidding aside.....I agree with the general message. Lately(last month) I have been reading countless hours of archives. There was a debate about the k-1 and what OlgaH said made perfect sense. It does not matter....well not nearly as much... how many times I go to see her in her country. She will be moving here and the only way for her to experience living here with me(realistically) is to come over on a k-1.We intend to get married.....but we both understand it has to be right.....and the K-1 IMO gives us that opportunity to live together.

I do plan to go there in Nov and Jan.

It seems to fast to me also...but this is the path I choose and I feel comfortable about it.

As far as rushing to get married? Not sure. I have been pressured 4 times in the past and have never proposed.

The K-1 is often misunderstood by many who grace RWD. The 3 months isn't a live together trial period. It is a 3 months to get married stipulation. Can you "really" figure it whether or not you are compatible and wish to be married to each other in 3 months? That is akin to stuffing 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound box. Can you decide that and get married in 3 months? Can she?

The only point of my post was to suggest that you know you both know this answer before she gives up her life and gets on the plane. If you were not meant to be married after you get married or before your "trial period" the end story likely will be disastrous for you both.

[Muzh]

That is akin to stuffing 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound box.

That's one way to put it. 

Lonedrake, keep in mind that if she returns (voluntarily) to her country, our Dept of State and its subsidiaries will keep a record of your "attempts." This may work against you.

[lonedrake]

It is a 3 months to get married stipulation.

 And the penalty if you do not get married is?