Going to meet up with my Russian girl

[prior22]

Hello everyone, First wanted to say thanks a lot for everyone's hard work on making this site so awesome and informative.  I've used it many times to look at other's viewpoints and stories.  I can't say thank you enough...

Well, I've known my 23 year old FSU girl since August 2011 (I'm from the USA by the way.)  We've met up already in her hometown once and in the Dominican Republic second.  Both trips were absolutely fabulous.  She is an amazing girl and we talk to each every day.  We're coming to the point where we're looking for another 3rd country to visit in March.  However, money is a little bit of an issue so looking for someplace on the cheaper side that requires no visa for the both of us or is easily attainable before  the end of March.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.  Of course ask any questions you may have or PM me if you wish.

Cheers,
Dennis

[Jumper]

Hello !
Well DR is inexpensive, (other than her flight?)


You could meet her in Mexico , cancun,cozumel, riveria maya  or tulum area?
As the visa is free and simply an online thing for her to fill out before travel.
(but be sure she does so)




Other places more close to her (but then your flight is pricey) would be Turkey, Cyprus..
There are many others,  I havn't looked into this for awhile.


You could likely meet her in many EU countries with a  the Schengen visa.
If she is Ukrainian it can be a little challenge,but  can be obtained 
seemingly more easily if she enters the EU  thru more common countries to issuie it like Poland.


My met with my wife in Vienna ,and went to Prague etc,,
but she likely would have had a hard time getting a schengen for  Austria.
So we had her local travel agent apply as a tour to Warsaw, and Poland was much easier,
just as an example.
(and once in the EU on a schengen she can generally travel anywhere within it.
yes its best to lave thru the same entering country for future visa considerations)




Good Luck!

[mendeleyev]

Dennis, no offense, but it boggles my mind when guys meet once in her home country and then take a honeymoon or succession of premarital honeymoons off to some foreign place. Unless your first visit was of several months duration, other than what you've heard you really don't know squat about her life, her background, or her family. One week, two weeks, 4 weeks, is a drop in the bucket in the larger scheme of things. Skype doesn't count in my book when compared to real life.

Imagine your tenth anniversary, if you're lucky to get that far, and she says "something happened yesterday. Do you remember my school...?" No you don't, cause the two of you went to the DR but never explored deeply her life in the FSU. Another time imagine her saying "my aunt in Shakhty died last night. Won't we miss her?" No, she will but you won't cause you were in Greece have the sex time of your life instead of getting to know her extended family who by the way, are an important influence on who she is today and will become tomorrow.

I will undoubtedly take great heat over saying the truth. 

If she is the instigator on getting out of town for vacations then you need to raise the red flags so far up into the sky that your neighbors will file zoning complaints against you.

Test: tell her that you want to know her more deeply and experience her life. You want to get to know her family, her friends and see her beautiful region and visit everywhere locally that is important to her heart. If she likes that idea, lower the red flags and avoid that zoning violation complaint from your neighbors. If however she insists on another vacation, for any reason, find a woman who believes it more important to bond with you on the things that matter in life instead of a singular mutual interest in travel.

You can always travel and will have years to do that. Don't put the honeymoon before a good foundation for the wedding.

A final thought: Other than a nice vacation in the sun, little will be accomplished to secure the long term stability of your marriage just because you're in a foreign country. However, much can be accomplished to assure the prospects for long term happiness by knowing and experiencing all you can together in her natural environment.

 

[cc3]

Dennis, no offense, but it boggles my mind when guys meet once in her home country and then take a honeymoon or succession of premarital honeymoons off to some foreign place. Unless your first visit was of several months duration, other than what you've heard you really don't know squat about her life, her background, or her family. One week, two weeks, 4 weeks, is a drop in the bucket in the larger scheme of things. Skype doesn't count in my book when compared to real life.

Imagine your tenth anniversary, if you're lucky to get that far, and she says "something happened yesterday. Do you remember my school...?" No you don't, cause the two of you went to the DR but never explored deeply her life in the FSU. Another time imagine her saying "my aunt in Shakhty died last night. Won't we miss her?" No, she will but you won't cause you were in Greece have the sex time of your life instead of getting to know her extended family who by the way, are an important influence on who she is today and will become tomorrow.

I will undoubtedly take great heat over saying the truth. 

If she is the instigator on getting out of town for vacations then you need to raise the red flags so far up into the sky that your neighbors will file zoning complaints against you.

Test: tell her that you want to know her more deeply and experience her life. You want to get to know her family, her friends and see her beautiful region and visit everywhere locally that is important to her heart. If she likes that idea, lower the red flags and avoid that zoning violation complaint from your neighbors. If however she insists on another vacation, for any reason, find a woman who believes it more important to bond with you on the things that matter in life instead of a singular mutual interest in travel.

You can always travel and will have years to do that. Don't put the honeymoon before a good foundation for the wedding.

A final thought: Other than a nice vacation in the sun, little will be accomplished to secure the long term stability of your marriage just because you're in a foreign country. However, much can be accomplished to assure the prospects for long term happiness by knowing and experiencing all you can together in her natural environment.

True words; excellent advice.

[Daveman]

Dennis, no offense, but it boggles my mind when guys meet once in her home country and then take a honeymoon or succession of premarital honeymoons off to some foreign place. Unless your first visit was of several months duration, other than what you've heard you really don't know squat about her life, her background, or her family. One week, two weeks, 4 weeks, is a drop in the bucket in the larger scheme of things. Skype doesn't count in my book when compared to real life.

BLASPHEMY!!!!  (ok, by definition it can't be blasphemy, but historically, it has been quite effective for inciting mobs!)

...getting to know her extended family who by the way, are an important influence on who she is today and will become tomorrow.

I will undoubtedly take great heat over saying the truth.   

BOIL that Mendy BOIL that Mendy, Beezlenut oil! Beezlenut oil!!

If she is the instigator on getting out of town for vacations then you need to raise the red flags so far up into the sky that your neighbors will file zoning complaints against you.

Test: tell her that you want to know her more deeply and experience her life. You want to get to know her family, her friends and see her beautiful region and visit everywhere locally that is important to her heart. If she likes that idea, lower the red flags and avoid that zoning violation complaint from your neighbors. If however she insists on another vacation, for any reason, find a woman who believes it more important to bond with you on the things that matter in life instead of a singular mutual interest in travel.

You can always travel and will have years to do that. Don't put the honeymoon before a good foundation for the wedding.

A final thought: Other than a nice vacation in the sun, little will be accomplished to secure the long term stability of your marriage just because you're in a foreign country. However, much can be accomplished to assure the prospects for long term happiness by knowing and experiencing all you can together in her natural environment.

CRUCISTONE HIM!!!!! 




Dennis, I'm with Mendy on this one.  Unless she's pregnant, you were somehow involved in that, and her father is gunning for you - the better option is to be with her in as close to normal situation as possible. 


If Dad *is* gunning for you, I hear Turkey is a fun trip and she can get her visa at the airport.

[jone]

I am having real trouble understanding this.  You are all advising this poor man to meet the woman's family and get close to them?  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a love interest that you never have to marry?  Or did I miss something?

I always say that the first time she wants to introduce me to her family, I'm out the door.  Unless she has a good looking sister!

[Patagonie]

Dennis, no offense, but it boggles my mind when guys meet once in her home country and then take a honeymoon or succession of premarital honeymoons off to some foreign place. Unless your first visit was of several months duration, other than what you've heard you really don't know squat about her life, her background, or her family. One week, two weeks, 4 weeks, is a drop in the bucket in the larger scheme of things. Skype doesn't count in my book when compared to real life.

Imagine your tenth anniversary, if you're lucky to get that far, and she says "something happened yesterday. Do you remember my school...?" No you don't, cause the two of you went to the DR but never explored deeply her life in the FSU. Another time imagine her saying "my aunt in Shakhty died last night. Won't we miss her?" No, she will but you won't cause you were in Greece have the sex time of your life instead of getting to know her extended family who by the way, are an important influence on who she is today and will become tomorrow.

I will undoubtedly take great heat over saying the truth. 

If she is the instigator on getting out of town for vacations then you need to raise the red flags so far up into the sky that your neighbors will file zoning complaints against you.

Test: tell her that you want to know her more deeply and experience her life. You want to get to know her family, her friends and see her beautiful region and visit everywhere locally that is important to her heart. If she likes that idea, lower the red flags and avoid that zoning violation complaint from your neighbors. If however she insists on another vacation, for any reason, find a woman who believes it more important to bond with you on the things that matter in life instead of a singular mutual interest in travel.

You can always travel and will have years to do that. Don't put the honeymoon before a good foundation for the wedding.

A final thought: Other than a nice vacation in the sun, little will be accomplished to secure the long term stability of your marriage just because you're in a foreign country. However, much can be accomplished to assure the prospects for long term happiness by knowing and experiencing all you can together in her natural environment.

+1000
Rather than bring her in a lot of paradises, spend time with her in your appartment or in her city. You will know more about your couple. When you will be a real couple, you will have vacations together. AFTER.
TONS of FSU women  use men to have amazing trips, and many are not serious.

[mendeleyev]

TONS of FSU women  use men to have amazing trips, and many are not serious.

So true!

As a Dad to a Russian girl who is 25, I find it hard to believe a 23 year old is "serious" about marriage to a foreign gentleman and ours is mature for her age and intelligent (just completed a Master's Degree from Moscow State).

A lot of girls at 23 are "serious" about a vacation however...especially when someone else is paying for it.

[ML]

If Dad *is* gunning for you, I hear Turkey is a fun trip and she can get her visa at the airport.

And an abortion there also.
Downstairs to left just beside barbershop.

[ML]

Quote<blockquote>TONS of FSU women  use men to have amazing trips, and many are not serious. </blockquote>

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No, they are very serious about wanting these trips.

[Hammer2722]

One trip to her city and 2 trips for vacation? One question:
 
Have you met her family yet? 

[Patagonie]

You :
"Hello,

I was hoping to get some advice on a good country to meet my Russian girl in where she will not require a visa.  I am from the U.S. and have a passport.  We have both already agreed it is the best option for now.  I have seen a list of eligible countries that are options for her, but I have never myslef visited any of them before, so any thoughts would be appreciated. 

Some preferences:

I would like to keep it on the cheap side for her.  She is 21 and not a rich girl.  Of course, I can help her if necessary.

She is very much wanting to go somewhere with good weather.  The trip hopefully will happen in about the next 45 days.

Also, I'm not a big traveler, so once we decide on the country, a travel agent would be our best bet to set everything up or simply it better to just book our own flights and accomodations?  Appreciate any advice!  Thanks, Dennis "
Is she 21 or 23 ?
you
"Thanks a lot for the thoughts man!  I should have specified before this wasn't like completely her idea that we should meet somewhere other than our homes.  Originally, she wanted to come to me, but she looked into that process and we both realized it would take some time.  We just started looking at the possibilty of traveling to a random country where she wouldn't need a visa.  The Maldives came up in that discussion, but when I told her how expensive it would be for me just to get roundtrip tickets there, she wanted no part of that and she suggested I come to her in Russia.

I still would like to explore the possibility of going to vacation-type country for a week or so with her if we can get good prices (EX:  Dominican Republic, maybe), but I'll start to talk to her more about me coming to visit her in Russia and see what she says.  I just didn't realize it would be such an easy time for me to get a visa and looking at the airfare prices, it wouldn't be horribly expensive."
Don't be the too too much the nice guy. Return in Russia and put your ass in this country, it will the country and the culture of your future wife, if you want a FSU women. IT IS very important to understand her culture. The FSU women with whom i had had close interview had suffered with their western husband of quite of lack of comprenhension due to this issue and they have suffered severely.
Yes it is important to built a story for consulate, but it is clueless because a real relationship is not only sex, romance and sand, it is in the fight and adversity that you see the true soul of the connivance.