Russia ex-tycoon Boris Berezovsky found dead

[tfcrew]

 

The exiled Russian, who became a foe of Putin, had claimed to be the target of assassination attempts. The circumstances of his demise in Britain are unclear. 

By Sergei L. Loiko, Los Angeles Times March 23, 2013, 5:49 p.m.
   

MOSCOW — Boris Berezovsky, 67, an exiled Russian ex-tycoon who played a key role in bringing Vladimir Putin to power, only to have a bitter falling out, has died in Britain, according to his family and Russian news reports.

Berezovsky had claimed to be the subject of assassination attempts, and there were conflicting reports Saturday about the circumstances of his death... Well-known Russian lawyer Alexander Dobrovinsky said he learned from a close friend of Berezovsky that he had committed suicide.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-russia-berezovsky-obit-20130324,0,29948.story

Boris Berezovsky death: no evidence of 'third-party involvement', say police Officers investigating Russian oligarch's death find no evidence anyone else involved as radiation experts give mansion all-clear
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/24/boris-berezovsky-death-house-all-clear.

I understand that there were more guys after Berezovsky than there were Bin Laden.

[CDW]

Good riddance!!!   I was in Berkshire last Saturday!!!

[Hammer2722]

Looks like Putin finally got him....

[cc3]

Good riddance!!!   I was in Berkshire last Saturday!!!

Why "Good riddance"? I know nothing about him other than what wikipedia has.

[CDW]

I don't give monkey about any rich Russian people!!!  I couldn't care less if all of them dead including Roman Abramovich (hope he is the next)

[Gator]

I don't give monkey about any rich Russian people!!!  I couldn't care less if all of them dead including Roman Abramovich (hope he is the next)

Where do you draw the line for your death wishes?

[Boethius]

I doubt highly Berezovsky was killed by the Russian government.  He had no influence, and few supporters in Russia.  Every attempt he made to influence events in Russia failed.  He had lost a major court case to the Russian government, in addition to Abramovich.  I suspect he either died of natural causes, or committed suicide.

[Doll]

Nobody knows yet. Can be ANYTHING.

[Hammer2722]

Nobody knows yet. Can be ANYTHING.

Agree!

[cc3]

When opponents of the Russian Imperial will, whether that of Tsars or of ex-KGB officers who become undisputed rulers, weaken, they become much more vulnerable to relatively unsophisticated assassination attempts. Such attempts, whether successful or not, are much easier to attribute to terrorist cabals or financial competitors, as opposed to the actual perpetrator: the Russian government. Excellent tactics by Putin in his strategic plans for the establishment of an extremely autocratic 'new' Russian Empire.

[Doll]

I doubt highly Berezovsky was killed by the Russian government.  He had no influence, and few supporters in Russia.  Every attempt he made to influence events in Russia failed.  He had lost a major court case to the Russian government, in addition to Abramovich.  I suspect he either died of natural causes, or committed suicide.

Natural causes or the evidence of suicide can be revieled easily.
Why would the police rearch the property in regards of poisoning gas or something like this? This is what they did.
Boe, he didn't have any influence so he couldn't be murdered by his enemies?  Of course he could- to show what can happen to anybody who is "agains us".

[Boethius]

Natural causes or the evidence of suicide can be revieled easily.
Why would the police rearch the property in regards of poisoning gas or somrthing like this? This is what they did.
Boe, he didn't have any influence so he couldn't be murdered by his enemies?  Of course he could- to show what can happen to anybody who is "agains us".

Had the Russian government wanted Berezovsky dead, he'd have been dead years ago.  Remember the poison tipped umbrella? 


Every death at home is investigated, one way or another.  Since my last post, the police in the UK have now stated there is no evidence of foul play.

[Doll]

Berezovsky's prominence as a critic of Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, and his repeatedly expressed fear of assassination attempts fuelled speculation that he may have been targeted.
His was the third suspicious death in the past five years to befall a businessman from the former USSR in the affluent crescent of suburbia just beyond the M25 in Surrey and Berkshire. Less than 10 miles from the scene of Berezovsky's death, Russian supergrass Alexander Perepilichnyy died while jogging last year – his death remains unexplained – while 15 miles away, at Downside Manor near Leatherhead, Berezovsky's former business partner Badri Patarkatsishvili died suddenly in 2008, sparking fevered speculation. A pathologist concluded he died of  by Text-Enhance" href=" ">heart disease.
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[Doll]

Litvinenko's widow, Marina, said she was too upset to comment on Berezovsky's death. Berezovsky had supported Litvinenko after he fled to Britain. He had accused Putin of orchestrating Litvinenko's murder by polonium in 2006, allegedly carried out by two former KGB agents.

[Boethius]

Not that I am a particular fan of Putin, but polonium is highly traceable.  IIRC, the Germans investigated the Litvinenko case a number of years ago, as the polonium was traced as coming through Germany, and had a good idea of its source, a "businesman" and former KGB officer. 


What do all these guys have in common?  Chechnya (including Berezovsky), and many of them got rich off the Chechen wars. 


I suspect Litvenenko's poisoning had to do with business, not criticism of the Russian government.

[Doll]

You never know- this "years ago" might happened yesterday. "Years ago" Boris would have died having left his money to his kids ONLY. Now he's lost his money to Abramovich. See how it is different?

[cc3]

Not that I am a particular fan of Putin, but polonium is highly traceable.  IIRC, the Germans investigated the Litvinenko case a number of years ago, as the polonium was traced as coming through Germany, and had a good idea of its source, a "businesman" and former KGB officer. 


What do all these guys have in common?  Chechnya (including Berezovsky), and many of them got rich off the Chechen wars. 


I suspect Litvenenko's poisoning had to do with business, not criticism of the Russian government.

Boethius, with all due respect, you seem to be inordinately defensive of the Russian government's positions in these highly suspicious deaths.

[Doll]

What do all these guys have in common?  Chechnya (including Berezovsky), and many of them got rich off the Chechen wars. 


 

OMG! What in common? They know what was going on in Kremlin. Чечня is just a part of it.

[Boethius]

You never know- this "years ago" might happened yesterday. "Years ago" Boris would have die having left his money to his kids ONLY. Now he's lost his money to Abramovich. See how it is different?

I'm happy that happened in the UK, as conspiracy theorists can't blame the court loss on Putin.

[Boethius]

Boethius, with all due respect, you seem to be inordinately defensive of the Russian government's positions in these highly suspicious deaths.

I have actual experience dealing with the KGB.  A friend of mine (I have posted about it here) was the son of a prominent dissident who was held at Lubyanka, long before so called "glasnost'".   I studied a lot of the history of the KGB and so called "dissidents".  So, the mentality and the tactics are not foreign to me.  I have no illusions about the FSB, nor how they came to control the Kremlin.  However,  Berezovsky was merely a common criminal who weaseled himself into Yeltsin's graces and still millions. He was irrelevant to the Russian state, had lost his mansion and much of his fortune.  He had been begging for years to be allowed to return to Russia.  As an "enemy", he was far past relevancy.

[cc3]

I have actual experience dealing with the KGB.  A friend of mine (I have posted about it here) was the son of a prominent dissident who was held at Lubyanka, long before so called "glasnost'".   I studied a lot of the history of the KGB and so called "dissidents".  So, the mentality and the tactics are not foreign to me.  I have no illusions about the FSB, nor how they came to control the Kremlin.  However,  Berezovsky was merely a common criminal who weaseled himself into Yeltsin's graces and still millions. He was irrelevant to the Russian state, had lost his mansion and much of his fortune.  He had been begging for years to be allowed to return to Russia.  As an "enemy", he was far past relevancy.

Interesting. Let's keep up this dialogue.

[Boethius]

OMG! What in common? They know what was going on in Kremlin. Чечня is just a part of it.

You really believe Berezovsky, after years abroad, knows what is going on in the Kremlin?  Further, it is not so difficult to determine, merely be reading Russian newspapers.  Doll, you are old enough to remember how to decipher what was going on by reading different newspapers.  My husband told me a year before the coup that the government would collapse.  How did he know? Soviet newspapers and television started glorifying Pinochet, and he said they would try to impose "work by force", but that it would fail.

[Doll]

You really believe Berezovsky, after years abroad, knows what is going on in the Kremlin?

Sure. The say he had компромат на Путина.

[BillyB]

When opponents of the Russian Imperial will, whether that of Tsars or of ex-KGB officers who become undisputed rulers, weaken, they become much more vulnerable to relatively unsophisticated assassination attempts.

Putin wanted to bring criminal charges against Boris and wanted him extradited. Years ago, Boris said the Scotland Yard warned him about a plot on his life. Boris pumped hundreds of millions of dollars towards political opposition groups and accused Putin of bombing an apartment in Moscow. He considers Putin an enemy and I'm sure Putin thinks him the same. Spies exist and part of their job is assasinations. Boris is probably high on Putin's list. He's certainly done more damage to Putin than a few reporters that were executed.
 

[cc3]

Putin wanted to bring criminal charges against Boris and wanted him extradited. Years ago, Boris said the Scotland Yard warned him about a plot on his life. Boris pumped hundreds of millions of dollars towards political opposition groups and accused Putin of bombing an apartment in Moscow. He considers Putin an enemy and I'm sure Putin thinks him the same. Spies exist and part of their job is assasinations. Boris is probably high on Putin's list. He's certainly done more damage to Putin than a few reporters that were executed.

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