My thoughts about Russian and Eastern European women

[dfb]

The photo with Latoya Jackson is also a winner.  I laugh every time I look at the photo.

[PeeWee]

It's not my photo, I had my photo here for a year but now that I'm dating local RW, it's probably smart to go underground.

The photo is this freak:

http://www.garyspivey.com/

He's some new age spirtualist from (surprise!) California. As much of an ass he is, the hairdoo cracks me up!

He's gay.

 

Peewee

[groovlstk]

It's not my photo, I had my photo here for a year but now that I'm dating local RW, it's probably smart to go underground.

The photo is this freak:

http://www.garyspivey.com/

He's some new age spirtualist from (surprise!) California. As much of an ass he is, the hairdoo cracks me up!

He's gay.

 

Peewee
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Mayhap, but that's the least of his problems

[Turboguy]

Groovlstk, if you are really going to go undergound perhaps you should substitute that photo on the dating sites you are listed on too.

[TomT]

groovlstk,

<You see kid, I did everything I could to get to know her before we got married!>


Tim's awkward writing style resulted in some confusion about the meaning of the above sentence. If he had written: "by getting to know her very well, I was able to avoid the mistake of marrying her," his meaning would have been very clear.

Unfortunately, he wanted to include some gratuitous self-flattery about his superiority to the "simple and naive" guys who do not know their girls until after they get married. The "before we got married" phrase resulted in ambiguity that could only be resolved through context.

[andrewfi]

Tim, when last time did you go to the doctor? Let me know your location and I'll look for a good psychiatrist for you.

P.S. I usually don't like to be rude, but aiways there are some exceptions...

P.P.S. Now, what did I learn from this forum? That majority on Russian ladies are lazy. That we have 2-4 boyfriends at a time. I wonder what will be next...

 

Who suggested these things?

But I tend to agree with your summation of Scorpion's situation.

[Son of Clyde]

PeeWee, thanks for the nice words. I hope to become a success story and learn to stand up for myself in the process. She is a very good woman and the few problems we have are personality issues and not so much related to her being from Ukraine. I am the quiet reserved guy and she is the gregarious lady who is much more organized than me.

Turboguy will find his soulmate too, I hope very soon. We have met in person and Turbo is as nice in real life as he is on the board. 

I was lucky that the WOVO method worked for me. Her letters were not the standard agency letters, they were straight from her heart. How many women will tell you not to translate your letters, that she will pay her own translator? And I am sure the translator was translating my letters accurately and her letters to me.

I'm not sure about this Tim7 dude, but I guess he is entitled to his opinion even if it is all wrong. 

[PeeWee]

[user=130]Son of Clyde[/user] wrote:

PeeWee, thanks for the nice words. I hope to become a success story and learn to stand up for myself in the process. She is a very good woman and the few problems we have are personality issues and not so much related to her being from Ukraine. I am the quiet reserved guy and she is the gregarious lady who is much more organized than me.

Turboguy will find his soulmate too, I hope very soon. We have met in person and Turbo is as nice in real life as he is on the board. 

I was lucky that the WOVO method worked for me. Her letters were not the standard agency letters, they were straight from her heart. How many women will tell you not to translate your letters, that she will pay her own translator? And I am sure the translator was translating my letters accurately and her letters to me.

I'm not sure about this Tim7 dude, but I guess he is entitled to his opinion even if it is all wrong. 

Well, Clyde, as strange as it may sound to you I have learned to judge character by what people say in how they say it in writing. I have to see a lot of their words but I do judge one's character by what they write to some extent. I have been a writer for 6 years now. Written words mean a lot to me. You and Turbo, I mean just look at that guys mug, seem to be straight shooters but more importantly I get the feeling that there is a lot of compassion and honesty backing up those written thoughts. I have no idea how I could help you Clyde but if there is ever a time you want to email me with a question or a concern you can do it.

Now I am communicating with a doctor in central Russia. After reading several weeks worth of emails from her it dawned on me the other day how very brilliant this woman is. She is a genius I am sure of it. She was telling me the other day how the catch and release sports fishing program works in the US. I am a sports fisherman and I was barely aware of it. Yet there is a woman living in Russia that knows something about something so obscure as a program which is a part of the US Fisheries. I finally told her that it had dawned on me how smart she was and that she would be the person who if she said to me, "Peewee, I am a doctor of children medicine but I want to study to be brain surgeon." I would only stop to ask her what day she wanted to enter medical school. Because I would be fully confident that she could handle it. The written word. How so very powerful it is.

Peewee 

[Bear]

Is there troll bat or just the clueless bat, either will do here, but the troll bat should be abit  heavier for more effect.

Finally someone called it for what it is! 
If it looks like a troll; smells like a troll... (you know the rest) 

[Tim7]

Too many replies

I dont have time to read all of them!

Sorry!

Too many naive LOSERS post here!

Timdman

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[PeeWee]

Too many replies

I dont have time to read all of them!

Sorry!

Too many naive LOSERS post here!

Timdman

You had time to write a lengthy preamble but no time to no read what it was that  you created? "Too many naive LOSERS post here!"  What's the quote for naive losers on any given forum? I am to understand that this forum has exceeded its quota? I best leave so as to lighten the load a bit.

Peewee

[Admin]

Too many replies

I dont have time to read all of them!

Sorry!

Too many naive LOSERS post here!

Timdman

Nothing to be sorry about. If you have something to contribute, then do so. Otherwise, your posts take on the distinct smell of a troll, hence, I am going to flag your account for special attention.

- Dan

[catzenmouse]

Dan,

 Could we possibly mark timd(not even close to acting like a)man with a large rock instead? Something big enough to squish a troll...

Ken

[Ricardo]

Mr. Tim 7 is nothing more than just some juvenile character whose only goal in this forum is the enjoyment he gets from annoying its members. Tim, as a new member here I am trying to get an education from people’s reliable experience. You see, I am genuinely interested in finding a good wife so please, I urge you, Grow up or just move on. 

Ricardo

[jb]

Ricky,

I like your style.

[Ricardo]

Thanks, JB.

[Maxx2]

I had a South Minneapolis Police Officer over my house a few months ago. He is a member or RWD and RWG. I'll wait to mention his name until I clear it with him.

Among his police duties is to do computerized background research on people suspected of criminal activities. It is amazing what can be learned from this. He is also trained observer of suspicious behavior, knows how to spot the good guys from the bad and then bust them up the bad ones pretty good. He is '6 "5.

OK, I asked him to do a background check on me. It came up spotless except for a speeding ticket in Wisconsin in March 2001 and one here in Minnesota this past January. The Elvira incident never came up because it was a civil matter. So no criminal record, no police calls to my home(s) or any DV with my ex-wife.

When came I showed the "Elvira files" that I keep in a blue plastic box.
1) It had the e-mails in it from her and me.
2)The letters from the agency's translators stroking me about her
3)two G 325 A biographical documents where she claimed to have 1 former ex-husband and not the 3 ex-husbands before me. Why would I go to Russia and marry a woman who had been divorced 3 times in 8 years of marriage unless I wasn't told in the first place?
4) her marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce, marriage and our divorce document of her and her 4 husbands
5) A Russian-English proprietary contract from the Russian marriage agency and their LARGE international MOB partner. The Russian MOB wanted Elvira and me to help them set up a competing service once she got here. That is why I have this proprietary contract. I could post it except for section 4.1 of it saying it is proprietary. When I refused to entangle myself see what happened next...
6) W. U. receipts to Elvira's mother for thousands of dollars. Abusive men who care for their mother-in-laws???? So what was the true purpose for this money? It wasn't for what Elvira said it was because I had Elena Garrett of www.Russian-Detective.com check.
7) e-mail letters back and forth from my friend Howard wondering what she was up to with her strange GCG behavior.
Letters and documents from my immigration and divorce attorneys showing my efforts to end my marriage (abusive men do not let their wives go.)
9 My filing for the divorce
10) Her filing a temporary restraining order 12 days later
11) The court transcripts with the judge's ruling
12) The 2 year restraining order based on "He said She said" evidence
13) Numerous photos, notes, tickets

The way I figured if I couldn't sit down with JB, Jet, Tim 7 or anyone else and present my case I could at least with this fellow board member. Poor guy had to sit through all of this but perhaps he can spare you guys the same fate if I meet you. So I will call him and see if he would like to add his thoughts to this and make this a "once in for all post". Case closed and doubts confirmed or abolished about me once and for all.

BTW, I have never denied being foolish, naive or desperate for love. I do deny I have been abusive, controlling or had bad motives.

Maxx

[jb]

Maxx,

If there was ever any question of abolishing you from any board that I was a member of, then I'd instantly be history as well.  I know you to be an honest and forthright man, even though you may be big and ugly, (but then, so am I).  I'd be very interested to read your friend's conclusions here if he choose to post them.  Please encourage him.

[Maxx2]

Thanks JB.

He's just getting off duty about now and i'll call him in a few minutes. I have always wanted to show somebody by blue box of horror and get their reaction. He is the perfect guy for this.

I got some great news a few minutes ago from Gary "Golden25". Apparently he had been putting pressure on the DA to drop his DV case but he got no break until the local FOX station called him and wondered if his case was still on. You see FOX5 news in Washington DC did a story on him and the local FOX station filmed Gary's interview for them.Gary told them to call the court house and ask if his ex-wife was even going to show up. The DA then decided to drop the case.

Maxx

[Stillkatn]

Jesus…all this started because scrotum-boy wanted to tell you what a big man he is with the Ukrainian women?  To quote Al Pacino “I’ll buy you a pack of gum and show you how to chew it”.   Big talk jerk-off.  I’m not impressed.  So, lets forget that and on to the topic at hand – Maxx’s credibility.  Called into question by a nobody, but may have gained some traction.  I’ll put my two cents in.  I have know Maxx for – oh, about a year, year and a half – from before my first trip to Ukraine (I’m a WOVO – you do what works for you, I don’t care) and have met and hung out and discussed all things related to RW as well as life in general.  I consider him a friend.  Aside from painting me as a dumb-ass Minneapolis cop – he’s right on the money (I work for the state as an investigator – forgery/fraud nonetheless).  So yea, I am well-equipped to spot a con.  Many of our conversations are about the various RW scams and how to spot and defend them.  Neither of us keep these things a secret – if we think we have something, we’ll share it.  To go further, with Maxx’s knowledge of RW and my knowledge of the legal system – we are trying to make some changes.  The whole deal of Maxx’s marriage?  Yea, I got a look in the “blue box of horrors”, and for personal reasons – I looked into Maxx’s personal history.  I can’t associate with liars and wife beaters – bad business in my world – and he is squeaky clean.  This guy went into the FSU with an open heart and got took – HARD.  Never once has Maxx played the “poor me” BS or “somebody did this to me” line.  He went in with honorable intentions and got jobbed.  Fact of life.

So, does Maxx squirrel away in a corner and lick his wounds?  NO!  He flings his tale out to whoever will read and hopes somebody will learn from the price he paid in this endeavor.  Take it for what you will.  Personally, I wouldn’t.  I am jaded and don’t really give a crap what happens to most of the guys in this game.  Then again, there are those who have helped me when I was stumbling around in the dark (not so much under this name, but when I went as “TomSend” on the other board) so there are those I do give a rip about.  Maxx on the other hand, is almost obsessed with helping people.  Doesn’t matter who, doesn’t matter where or when.  If you got a tale to tell, he will listen.  He’s a stand up guy.  Thus endeth the sermon.

Timmy or whatever the hell your name is – go to Ukraine and show ‘em all what a big man you are.  Next time I hope to hear about you is when some Ukrainian pimp is selling your kidneys on Ebay.

[Maxx2]

Tom buddy, I never said you were a dumb ass cop. I respect the police. I am just not fond of them driving behind me late at night. I am not exactly sure what your duties are. I know you told me that you have done liason work between the MPLS police and the FBI, DEA, ICE (USCIS) and other police and sherriffs departments exchanging information and so on.

My obsession seems to be turning into a hobby now that my nerves have settled down. I did appreciate your advice about segmenting this work and not become like that cop you know who cruised residentual neighborhoods after work looking for stolen cars.

Maxx

[Stillkatn]

You didn't say anthing intentionally bad - MPD association is just bad on it's own.  No thanks are necessary either - I'm just saying how it is.

[bongo]

just a comment:
I have been dating 3 Russian woman during the last 7 years, that was exactly like Tim say.
Lying, telling stories (and not the truth),  haveing sex with all men they meet, and are ohhh so family oriented.. all wanted merriage. WITH EVERYBODY at the same time!
Bullshit the Russian woman dating scene, it is the biggest scam on the net so far!!
I had  one gf in Moscow, one in Saint Petersburg and one from small town near Krasnodar.( and NOT at the same time)
They are all the same!!
avoid Russian woman!
or be prepared to loose a lot of money !!

 Possible troll

[catzenmouse]

I think the "I Hate RW Discussion" is on another site. Are you sure you aren't tim7?

[Ricardo]

Sure thing, Bongo-Tim. I will follow your wisdom blindly. Tell me what to do my Master. PLEASE, protect me from those evil women from Russia. Please, I beg you.