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Heh.. my wife has the different pronunciations down to a T.. but with some weird form of dyslexia.  She puts sh!t on the bed, and sheet, er,  elsewhere. It's hilarious to hear "fresh shits on the bed".. so I answer her in Russian, "well...super pooper!!"


Yes, "piece of fitted cotton cloth that covers the mattress" does sound a tad long...    :D

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Still???    :D :D :D   I still have hard time with shit and sheet and this is after 20 years of leaving abroad!    ;D    But being very clever, I just substitute sheet with piece of ...   and I'm in the clear.    :D

Freudian slip, perhaps?  :D   "Living," I hope!

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Freudian slip, perhaps?  :D   "Living," I hope!


Oooops!    :-* :D    But from the other hand I'm constantly leaving for living in one country or another and all of them are overseas.   ;)

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For the OP. Yes this is hard to understand for people who don’t have the emotional maturity to feel what would be called an extra sense. You don’t see it because you don’t possess this sense. There are individuals in the world who know very much about another man or woman without words.

It is said 7% of communication is verbal and 93% nonverbal. I guess lucky for the deaf and ones with speech problems not all people need to hear words to feel secure. Some men or woman need to hear words of reassurance every 30 minutes to know they are liked. Some couples can communicate with a simple touch or look and know they are secure. It does take 2 people with the same sense to have a relationship without the common language.

Some will jump up and down and reject this notion. But remember you can’t experience it. You don’t have the extra sense. So tread lightly on what you dismiss. I have read 2 post from individuals in this thread who know what I talk of. It hard to explain but it exists. I think you can say they have the feeling of being content in the others presence. They don’t need words to know this.

I think they are very emotionally mature and very confident with who is at their side. They are not the man or woman who needs to hear I love you or do you still like me or are you mad at me and on and on. The words don’t stroke their ego. All it takes is a glance.

A person who can’t understand this is the man and woman who needs the common language. The world is made of many personalities and to think the way some couples choose to form a relationship is wrong is misguided.

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For the OP. Yes this is hard to understand for people who don’t have the emotional maturity to feel what would be called an extra sense. You don’t see it because you don’t possess this sense. There are individuals in the world who know very much about another man or woman without words.

It is said 7% of communication is verbal and 93% nonverbal. I guess lucky for the deaf and ones with speech problems not all people need to hear words to feel secure. Some men or woman need to hear words of reassurance every 30 minutes to know they are liked. Some couples can communicate with a simple touch or look and know they are secure. It does take 2 people with the same sense to have a relationship without the common language.

Some will jump up and down and reject this notion. But remember you can’t experience it. You don’t have the extra sense. So tread lightly on what you dismiss. I have read 2 post from individuals in this thread who know what I talk of. It hard to explain but it exists. I think you can say they have the feeling of being content in the others presence. They don’t need words to know this.

I think they are very emotionally mature and very confident with who is at their side. They are not the man or woman who needs to hear I love you or do you still like me or are you mad at me and on and on. The words don’t stroke their ego. All it takes is a glance.

A person who can’t understand this is the man and woman who needs the common language. The world is made of many personalities and to think the way some couples choose to form a relationship is wrong is misguided.
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For the OP. Yes this is hard to understand for people who don’t have the emotional maturity to feel what would be called an extra sense. You don’t see it because you don’t possess this sense. There are individuals in the world who know very much about another man or woman without words.

It is said 7% of communication is verbal and 93% nonverbal. I guess lucky for the deaf and ones with speech problems not all people need to hear words to feel secure. Some men or woman need to hear words of reassurance every 30 minutes to know they are liked. Some couples can communicate with a simple touch or look and know they are secure. It does take 2 people with the same sense to have a relationship without the common language.

Some will jump up and down and reject this notion. But remember you can’t experience it. You don’t have the extra sense. So tread lightly on what you dismiss. I have read 2 post from individuals in this thread who know what I talk of. It hard to explain but it exists. I think you can say they have the feeling of being content in the others presence. They don’t need words to know this.

I think they are very emotionally mature and very confident with who is at their side. They are not the man or woman who needs to hear I love you or do you still like me or are you mad at me and on and on. The words don’t stroke their ego. All it takes is a glance.

A person who can’t understand this is the man and woman who needs the common language. The world is made of many personalities and to think the way some couples choose to form a relationship is wrong is misguided.

Heh

Of course a good fcuk will make thing fine. But for how long?

Between you and me, with time her tits sag and his balls shrivel.

Personally, any man or woman who is in a non-verbal relationship is because one is using the other.
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Personally, any man or woman who is in a non-verbal relationship is because one is using the other.

It could also be that they are both just using each other.  8)
 
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It could also be that they are both just using each other.  8)
 
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If that is the case and they are in agreement, then more power to them.

Not the way I would like to have a relationship.
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If that is the case and they are in agreement, then more power to them.

JMHO Muzh, but some of these obscene age gap relationships appear to be just that.
 
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JMHO Muzh, but some of these obscene age gap relationships appear to be just that.
 
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Well, that goes without questioning.  8)

However, and to be fair to all, I've seen very good marriages with obscene age differences. She just keeps him young, if you know what I mean.  ;D
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I always thought most relationships were about being compatible with what we want.  Hopefully I give my partner what she wants and desires and vice-versa. 


Love is fantastic but I don't see love being strong enough without compatibility.

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I always thought most relationships were about being compatible with what we want.  Hopefully I give my partner what she wants and desires and vice-versa. 


Love is fantastic but I don't see love being strong enough without compatibility.

You are a smart man.
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You are a smart man.


Let's not get carried away here.   ;D

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Consider the sources. ;)
 My view is, you are strangers until you live together. 
 
In terms of communication, I suppose much depends on what you want in a relationship.  For some people, not having a common language may be a plus, at least, until the FSUW learns fluent English.

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I have read many posts where the guy can barely understand what the girl is saying. Still, he submits a petition to bring a girl to his country to marry her. In some countries they have to marry before they can petition her intended to join him.

My question for the guys and please be as honest as you can:

What is it that makes you propose to a person you can barely communicate with?
Is it love at first sight or lust at first sight?

I think that your original question is different than many of the people are
answering.


A guy meets a girl with limited English. Then girl struggles in a very determined
way to learn English (and maybe the guy learns some Russian) they work very determinedly to communicate with each other.


After a period of time the girl's English improves greatly and their ability to communicate improves dramatically. Then they start planning a future together.


That is quite different than marrying a girl who can't speak a more than a words of English. I am not sure if any of the guys who posted here met the criteria of your 
original question because by the time they were married they were communicating at a relatively high level. Maybe she uses the wrong tense, or mangles a word or uses a completely wrong word, but the communication is present and improving constantly.


Just my two kopecks


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After a period of time the girl's English improves greatly and their ability to communicate improves dramatically. Then they start planning a future together.
 

Actually, it's more like her English improved and mine got worse and we find ourselves in that happy middle :popcorn:
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I think that your original question is different than many of the people are
answering.


A guy meets a girl with limited English. Then girl struggles in a very determined
way to learn English (and maybe the guy learns some Russian) they work very determinedly to communicate with each other.


After a period of time the girl's English improves greatly and their ability to communicate improves dramatically. Then they start planning a future together.


That is quite different than marrying a girl who can't speak a more than a words of English. I am not sure if any of the guys who posted here met the criteria of your original question because by the time they were married they were communicating at a relatively high level. Maybe she uses the wrong tense, or mangles a word or uses a completely wrong word, but the communication is present and improving constantly.


Just my two kopecks


Bill




Bill, great post! 


My ex wife learned English while living in Ukraine.  It took her a long time to learn it to were she could communicate feelings effectively.  The problem she had at first was not enough people to practice speaking English with.  From what she told me, it was about a year that she studied everyday for hours to get to where she could have a discussion.  Once we were together, her knowledge picked up fast.


For me, I wouldn't wait for someone to learn my language to fully understand if we are compatible.  Even when speaking the same language, it isn't easy.  haha


More power to those that can make it work.  I think it is awesome but not something to tread lightly.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 09:59:48 PM by LiveFromUkraine »

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Actually, it's more like her English improved and mine got worse and we find ourselves in that happy middle :popcorn:


Ha!  Nothing like RusEnglish.

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Ha!  Nothing like RusEnglish.


It's called Runglish.   ;D

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It's called Runglish.   ;D


Heh!  I learn something new everyday.  :P
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 10:23:05 PM by LiveFromUkraine »

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It's called Runglish.   ;D

Almost - usually it's Russlish!   Slightly more comprehensible than Japlish; beats Chinglish with one hand tied behind its back!  :cluebat:

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Ha!  Nothing like RusEnglish.
There is... add a third language in the mix.
ShadowJr can answer a question on 3 languages...in one sentence.
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Almost - usually it's Russlish!   Slightly more comprehensible than Japlish; beats Chinglish with one hand tied behind its back!  :cluebat:


Chinglish has to savored in written form, to be more precise - in translation of Chinese dishes names into English in local restaurants.   Lovvvv it!!!    :D :D :D

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Chinglish has to savored in written form, to be more precise - in translation of Chinese dishes names into English in local restaurants.   Lovvvv it!!!    :D :D :D
And do not forget the 'English name' that many Chinese traders have.
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Chinglish has to savored in written form, to be more precise - in translation of Chinese dishes names into English in local restaurants.   Lovvvv it!!!    :D :D :D

Oooooops, you impress me as someone who is a lot of fun. 
 
The Chinese menu translations are indeed hilarious.  I always wonder if the translations are done by a young son who enjoys playing a joke on his father and mother.  Or perhaps it is a sales technique (entertain customers & make them believe this is very authentic Chinese food).   Here are two examples: 

 

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