Thoughts on ukrainebridesagency.com

[ajb]

Guys
I can say with one hundred percent confidence that this site is a scam. I registered two weeks ago. Spent around 100 dollars chatting with a few women of interest. Finally, after a few conversations, I thought the profile solted5 (julia) (my last conversation was today , Dec 12th, 2014) interested me. Initially she sounded genuine. I asked her, if she will be ok if I pay a one time fee of one hundred dollars to the agency to get her contact info. She never answered it straight, and went on that she wants to know more about me, hence would like to chat on this site. I told her that the reviews of this agency are not great and hence I'm willing to pay a one time fee to get your info so that we can communicate directly and know more. She went on defending the site owner with many responses, which sounded like copy + paste. She started questioning me , cant you spend 20-30 dollars a day to know more about your future life partner, Am I not worth 20-30 dollars ??? This sounded disgusting to me like prostitution. So I bluntly told her, answer a straight yes or no if she is willing to share her info officially through this agency. She said no, as she was not willing to share her information to a person, who is not willing to spend money.

While I can imagine some ladies not being too keen to give contact details away after only messaging a couple times, her responses to you do seem very suspicious. Could I recommend you contact Keith the site owner directly?

I must say that I'm amused at the irony of guys here label this lady a prostitute for not being interested 

Also, I'm surprised by your comments regarding reviews not being very good?

[jetmike74]

While I can imagine some ladies not being too keen to give contact details away after only messaging a couple times, her responses to you do seem very suspicious. Could I recommend you contact Keith the site owner directly?

I must say that I'm amused at the irony of guys here label this lady a prostitute for not being interested 

Also, I'm surprised by your comments regarding reviews not being very good?

No one wants to share their contact information publicly. But if you get the bigger picture and read the entire conversation, I do not think it makes sense to continue talking to this lady. I was not asking for her info in the chat. I mentioned I will reach out to the agency. If she does not trust the agency, then she should remove her profile. And I'm not that desperate that I would be willing to spend 600-900 dollars a  month on some one, whom I never met and have some doubts about. I work hard to make my money.

As far as some of our folks here calling her a prostitute, take it easy. Do not go by the legal definition of a prostitute. Probably they are questioning this girl especially when she is trying to play with my ego (20-30 dollars and money part).

I  have found several reviews that raises many questions about this agency. I did some work. Looking back, I should have done the home work before I spent a single dollar.

There is no need for me to reach out to Keith as finding an Ukrainian girl is not the top most priority on my list.Most of these agencies are online businesses. They continuously keep a tab on all the reviews. If they are sincere, they act on this info. If they are "part " of the scam, they will defend this girl and poke holes in my arguments using fake profiles in this forum.

You know how it works...

[jetmike74]

You got it right. If you consider the odds of success, it is not worth it. You must have time and funds at your disposal to make multiple trips. Chances are it will take a few trials and errors to find the one. Importantly, you must enjoy the process and not get frustrated, i.e., when time comes for the first trip, go on the trip to enjoy getting to know someone without having high hopes. It may work out or it may not. Make sure you make it a worthwhile experience, i.e., have FUN.

Regarding the woman in question, her pictures are obviously heavily retouched and the girl has a ton of makeup. In her third picture from the left, she looks totally fake like a doll. When you see pictures like these, you are likely wasting your time and money. Focus on private emailers, not agency girls. Although the former are not necessarily scam free, you have better chances. Focus on pictures that look real. Focus on girls that post at least a couple pictures from everyday life (and without makeup or little makeup). Pictures can tell you a lot and even the few words from their profiles can help you weed out the obvious time wasters.

If you are looking for youth and looks as I do, another thing you need to understand is that you cannot make assessments based on the pictures. Even if the girl is honest, she will (of course) select her best pictures to post online. Get her on Skype as soon as possible. This way you will see her real face (and with a couple tricks her body, as well). Last thing you want is to make a trip and it turns out she looks like shit (there was a post by a newbie on here a while ago who did not even recognize the girl that showed up, she was that ugly compared to the pictures). In reality, most russian / ukraine girls are average looks. It is a myth that they are all so gorgeous and smoking hot. It takes a lot of effort and time to find one that is really, genuinely and naturally pretty. And, even if you do, it may not work out when you visit her. This is what happened in my last trip. Gorgeous girl, totally f**** up in the brain.

Good luck!

P.S. Chasing women on Linkedin LOL dumbest thing to do unless you're one of those people who are hell bent showing how desperate they are.

Yeah, time is a big problem. And I dont think I have the patience of a Mahmud Of Ghazni to visit so many times.

 
A history lesson : In case if you do not know who this guy, Mahmud Of Ghazni is . He was a ruler of Iran/Afghanistan. He raided India 17 times attracted by its riches (gold, diamonds etc).

[CDW]

In my dictionary, prostitute is almost the same as a potential scammer

The only different is that:

A prostitute had sex with men and get paid
A scammer tired the men in the bed's posts only to take the money out of their wallets and run away!

You should be grateful I called her prostitute instead of scammer, cos I find scammers must worse than 'real' prostitutes

[Solted5]

This prostitute has the profile of high-end  fashion photography and clothing.  How did she afford to have quality fashion photography, so obviously by getting paid from chat / letters- the money you sent!

Hello to everybody.Solted5 here.

Yes,thank you featuring my profile and my high fashion photography and clothing.Yes,to your surprise i really can affort high fashion photography and clothing. I am not poor at all and Ukrainebridsagency is not my JOB,it's a service i use to find a soulmate. It is wrong to think that ALL ukrainian women are poor.

For instance let's talk abot SOLTED5,so called "prostitute".That is me.I own a modern house in a village,an appartment in the city of Ivano-Frankovsk and a small flower shop,which is my thing to do for a living.

And believe me,what's your name by the way? I would still have enough money to purchase lessons of "men tolerance and politeness" for you;) Because you seem like an ignorant obusive male who needs to be tought about simple things in life at least how to respect A WOMAN and how not to call her A PROSTITUTE.And then! You could even think about regista=ration on Ukrainianbridesagency.When you become POLITE and TOLERANT.

Yulia Solted5

[Solted5]

In my dictionary, prostitute is almost the same as a potential scammer

The only different is that:

A prostitute had sex with men and get paid
A scammer tired the men in the bed's posts only to take the money out of their wallets and run away!

You should be grateful I called her prostitute instead of scammer, cos I find scammers must worse than 'real' prostitutes

Solted5 here. Thank you for explanation of words.Anyway it doesn't give you any right to call Solted5 A PROSTITUDE. I am not a prostitude or a scammer.If you say i am...prove it then !! If you can't prove it then simply keep your mouth closed.

[Solted5]

Guys
I can say with one hundred percent confidence that this site is a scam. I registered two weeks ago. Spent around 100 dollars chatting with a few women of interest. Finally, after a few conversations, I thought the profile solted5 (julia) (my last conversation was today , Dec 12th, 2014) interested me. Initially she sounded genuine. I asked her, if she will be ok if I pay a one time fee of one hundred dollars to the agency to get her contact info. She never answered it straight, and went on that she wants to know more about me, hence would like to chat on this site. I told her that the reviews of this agency are not great and hence I'm willing to pay a one time fee to get your info so that we can communicate directly and know more. She went on defending the site owner with many responses, which sounded like copy + paste. She started questioning me , cant you spend 20-30 dollars a day to know more about your future life partner, Am I not worth 20-30 dollars ??? This sounded disgusting to me like prostitution. So I bluntly told her, answer a straight yes or no if she is willing to share her info officially through this agency. She said no, as she was not willing to share her information to a person, who is not willing to spend money.

I have a white collar job and make 6 figures. So spending money is not a problem. But for me getting cheated is a problem. Ukraine is only one of the several options I  have. I'm fairly confident I can find the right girl either in US or any other country. The only reason I was attracted to Ukraine was the beauty of these women. Is it worth the time, effort and money  ?
I dont think so. As not all Ukrainian women are angels and there are plenty of good women everywhere in the world. It depends on how you look at it.
Good luck folks.

Solted5 here. Thank you for detailed review.I would like also to add my opinion to your subjekt.As far as you remember I answered you that i was not ready to share my contact info with you because i didn't know you WELL for that. It has nothing to do with scamming or prostitution.

From the other point of view.If you want free communication,and everything free,what's your point on registering on the site with "pay-per-letter" system? What is your point then? Or you may be get pleasure from testing the site just a few days and then giving negative reviews and calling out names throughout the internet? Is that your point? Then shame on you. A true gentleman would never act like that letting that dirty discussion happen featuring my Name.

[Solted5]

No one wants to share their contact information publicly. But if you get the bigger picture and read the entire conversation, I do not think it makes sense to continue talking to this lady. I was not asking for her info in the chat. I mentioned I will reach out to the agency. If she does not trust the agency, then she should remove her profile. And I'm not that desperate that I would be willing to spend 600-900 dollars a  month on some one, whom I never met and have some doubts about. I work hard to make my money.

As far as some of our folks here calling her a prostitute, take it easy. Do not go by the legal definition of a prostitute. Probably they are questioning this girl especially when she is trying to play with my ego (20-30 dollars and money part).



I  have found several reviews that raises many questions about this agency. I did some work. Looking back, I should have done the home work before I spent a single dollar.

There is no need for me to reach out to Keith as finding an Ukrainian girl is not the top most priority on my list.Most of these agencies are online businesses. They continuously keep a tab on all the reviews. If they are sincere, they act on this info. If they are "part " of the scam, they will defend this girl and poke holes in my arguments using fake profiles in this forum.

You know how it works...
Solted5. Yes,you're right,you should better think like hundred of times before to register there and then dare to spoil a woman's reputation on forums.

[Solted5]

The prostitute wrote about herself:

About me
I believe in Love. Hundreds of times they will break my heart and I will still believe in Love. Hundreds of times they will let me down and I will still believe in Love. Hundreds of times they will call me 'stupid' 'naive''hopeless' and i will still believe in Love. I am made of Love and I am for Love.

So what does it tell you? !!!!

Solted5 here. What is wrong about my profile content then?! I wrote what i felt.Sorry,i am not to blame that you're too ignorant to understand poetic language,even me,not native english speaker,understand the sense of written.

[Faux Pas]

Solted5 here. Thank you for detailed review.I would like also to add my opinion to your subjekt.As far as you remember I answered you that i was not ready to share my contact info with you because i didn't know you WELL for that. It has nothing to do with scamming or prostitution.

From the other point of view.If you want free communication,and everything free,what's your point on registering on the site with "pay-per-letter" system? What is your point then? Or you may be get pleasure from testing the site just a few days and then giving negative reviews and calling out names throughout the internet? Is that your point? Then shame on you. A true gentleman would never act like that letting that dirty discussion happen featuring my Name.

Well what exactly did you suspect he might do with your email and perhaps some Skype information? Surely with your wealth you do have a a computer and internet access, no? Maybe even just a smartphone.

I'm not pretending to speak for jetMike but, if you are serious about finding a mate as you claim, you would want to move the communication to a more comfortable venue for you both as well, wouldn't you? Your contact information isn't as precious as you seem to believe that it is especially when it's costing your possible future husband 30 USD an hour or 30 minutes, what ever the going rate is. If you are not interested in the man perhaps you can share that information with him as soon as you know. That would be the selfless act, wouldn't it?

[CDW]

Solted5 here. What is wrong about my profile content then?! I wrote what i felt.Sorry,i am not to blame that you're too ignorant to understand poetic language,even me,not native english speaker,understand the sense of written.

nobody gives monkey about poetic especially in the "About me" section.  All the women who write "copy and paste" letters always write poetic letters!  We aren't stupid!   We need to know about YOURSELF, what you love, etc.

[notforone]

Hello to everybody.Solted5 here.

Yes,thank you featuring my profile and my high fashion photography and clothing.Yes,to your surprise i really can affort high fashion photography and clothing. I am not poor at all and Ukrainebridsagency is not my JOB,it's a service i use to find a soulmate. It is wrong to think that ALL ukrainian women are poor.

For instance let's talk abot SOLTED5,so called "prostitute".That is me.I own a modern house in a village,an appartment in the city of Ivano-Frankovsk and a small flower shop,which is my thing to do for a living.

And believe me,what's your name by the way? I would still have enough money to purchase lessons of "men tolerance and politeness" for you;) Because you seem like an ignorant obusive male who needs to be tought about simple things in life at least how to respect A WOMAN and how not to call her A PROSTITUTE.And then! You could even think about regista=ration on Ukrainianbridesagency.When you become POLITE and TOLERANT.

Yulia Solted5

Hello Bigfoot here. The problem is that there are enough morons around the world that will pay to chat with pictures. Amazing how all these rich, successful female entrepreneurs and fashion models end up on your web site. Are you in shortage of rich, successful, fashionable men in Ivanofrankovsk?

[Solted5]

Hello Bigfoot here. The problem is that there are enough morons around the world that will pay to chat with pictures. Amazing how all these rich, successful female entrepreneurs and fashion models end up on your web site. Are you in shortage of rich, successful, fashionable men in Ivanofrankovsk?

Thank you for your question.Anyway let me slightly remind you that it is not your business where i look for a soulmate,in my city or in Africa or in Space or on Ukrainebridesagency etc.It souldn't bother you as long as you are not my boy-friend.

[Solted5]

nobody gives monkey about poetic especially in the "About me" section.  All the women who write "copy and paste" letters always write poetic letters!  We aren't stupid!   We need to know about YOURSELF, what you love, etc.

Okay,let me tell you WHAT i love. I love tolerance and brains.I love when people don't offend each other,i love when people have equel rights no matter what countries  they are from. I respect people and in return i want to be respected. If i am from Ukraine and if i am on a dating site,it still shouldn't give you or similar to you give any right to call me dirty words. Because you have never spoken to me before and you don't know actually who am. So what the point of humiliating me? It just would show your miserable nature only...and nothing more.I hope this will be useful for you.Thank you

[jetmike74]

Solted5 here.

If you want free communication,and everything free,what's your point on registering on the site with "pay-per-letter" system? What is your point then? Or you may be get pleasure from testing the site just a few days and then giving negative reviews and calling out names throughout the internet? Is that your point? Then shame on you. A true gentleman would never act like that letting that dirty discussion happen featuring my Name.

This part clearly shows that this post is not by the lady, but the men at the ukrainebridesagency at work here.

I did expect them to show up at some stage. I"m glad they finally did.

My msg to these guys at ukrainebridesagency :
If you guys have some values and believe that are not you cheating, then properly address customer complaints. The explanation you have given above does not do anything to dispel our doubts.   It actually confirms that this is possibly a scam. It is not going to help you. It raises more questions.

If you guys address my (our) concerns, you can take my word that I will be happy to come back here and post a positive review. Is that fair ? The goal of any business is profit. I know that and I have no problem in spending money if I'm convinced. Convince me.

[Solted5]

This part clearly shows that this post is not by the lady, but the men at the ukrainebridesagency at work here.

I did expect them to show up at some stage. I"m glad they finally did.

My msg to these guys at ukrainebridesagency :
If you guys have some values and believe that are not you cheating, then properly address customer complaints. The explanation you have given above does not do anything to dispel our doubts.   It actually confirms that this is possibly a scam. It is not going to help you. It raises more questions.

It's not a team of the site. It's me,Yulia 28 old female,who saw by chanse how dirty she was discussed on this forum and decided  to defence her name as a name of a serious lady! It must be shame on you,you give out names and spoil my reputation.Especially if you're a white collar man with high moral values.

[jetmike74]

It's not a team of the site. It's me,Yulia 28 old female,who saw by chanse how dirty she was discussed on this forum and decided  to defence her name as a name of a serious lady! It must be shame on you,you give out names and spoil my reputation.Especially if you're a white collar man with high moral values.

Even though I do not believe it, if you are Yulia, here is an offer if you want to clear the air.

Read all my posts, I just told the story and expressed my concern and doubts about the agency. I did not say negative things about you as a person. The main complaint I had was, I was willing to pay the agency a flat fee, that means I'm sharing all my info with the agency. If I play any mischief, they know who was playing with you. You did not accept it. So it raised a genuine question, is the agency a scam. That is what we have been discussing here

If you are still serious, you can reach out to me.

If you come up with any excuse, I do not think anybody is going to believe you. End of story.

I have no interest in posting endless replies to the conversation. I'm not the person to ruin anybody's reputation if they are sincere in their efforts.

[notforone]

Mike, don't blink man, she's fake. The agency has many pictures of the girls just in case. They send the pictures to men from time to time to keep them on the site and keep the dough coming in. They lure you with the glamorous pictures, then once you are hooked, they send you more real ones to show you they are genuine. It's part of the scam.

By the way, you can see point I made earlier about the difference between the glamorous pictures and the real ones. Would you make a trip for this broad?

[Solted5]

Even though I do not believe it, if you are Yulia, here is an offer if you want to clear the air.

Read all my posts, I just told the story and expressed my concern and doubts about the agency. I did not say negative things about you as a person. The main complaint I had was, I was willing to pay the agency a flat fee, that means I'm sharing all my info with the agency. If I play any mischief, they know who was playing with you. You did not accept it. So it raised a genuine question, is the agency a scam. That is what we have been discussing here

If you are still serious, you can reach out to me.

Solted5 here. My goal here on this forum was to defend my Name.Because i am REAL,because i am not a PROSTITUTE (as you fitured before) and because i am not A SCAM. I have registered in UkraineBridesAgency for a half of a year already.And during this time i have NEVER asked money or gifts from men. And my advice for you,before to spread out bad rumours about a certain woman just try and understand the whole situation.

I am not asking anybody to believe me or not.I was defending my Name only.

Sorry.After reading all of your comments here in this forum i just feel like never contacting you anymore.I feel abused and humiliated.Just think please what you are posting in the future.Bye

If you come up with any excuse, I do not think anybody is going to believe you. End of story.

I have no interest in posting endless replies to the conversation. I'm not the person to ruin anybody's reputation if they are sincere in their efforts.

[jetmike74]

Mike, don't blink man, she's fake. The agency has many pictures of the girls just in case. They send the pictures to men from time to time to keep them on the site and keep the dough coming in. They lure you with the glamorous pictures, then once you are hooked, they send you more real ones to show you they are genuine. It's part of the scam.

By the way, you can see point I made earlier about the difference between the glamorous pictures and the real ones. Would you make a trip for this broad?

I agree.
No girl would post her pictures on this forum or any other forum. THIS IS A BIG BIG BIG RED FLAG.
What surprises me is the stupidity.

I think I will sign off from this thread as it is pretty clear for me and all of us about the agency.

I will continue my pursuit and start a relevant thread as and when required. Thank you for all the support guys.

[Solted5]

I agree.
No girl would post her pictures on this forum or any other forum. THIS IS A BIG BIG BIG RED FLAG.
What surprises me is the stupidity.

I think I will sign off from this thread as it is pretty clear for me and all of us about the agency.

I will continue my pursuit and start a relevant thread as and when required. Thank you for all the support guys.

Comparing to you i have NOTHING to hide.So i posted my photo,why not?! Why haven't you posted your photo or your real name here?? Are you afraid of what?? If you state you're right so what you're afraid of? Just show the public who you are and what you want! SEEM FAIR.

[jetmike74]

Comparing to you i have NOTHING to hide.So i posted my photo,why not?! Why haven't you posted your photo or your real name here?? Are you afraid of what?? If you state you're right so what you're afraid of? Just show the public who you are and what you want! SEEM FAIR.

I could not resist. I had to come back one more time to answer this.

Unlike you, I do not post fake pictures, fake names and steal other peoples money. If I say something I mean it. If I post something it is true.

I was willing to sign the IMBRA form that has all my legal information and submit it to the agency to get your info. That has been my argument all along. If you you or the agency still do not get it, GOD SAVE YOU ALL. AMEN.

[Solted5]

I could not resist. I had to come back one more time to answer this.

Unlike you, I do not post fake pictures, fake names and steal other peoples enemy. If I say something I mean it. If I post something it is true.

I was willing to sign the IMBRA form that has all my legal information and submit it to the agency to get your info. That has been my argument all along. If you you or the agency still do not get it, GOD SAVE YOU ALL. AMEN.

I am not a FAKE either. My pictures are REAL,my name is REAL,AND! You can check my passport details at the  agency.I recommend you to stop your abusive posts.Because I also mean what I post. Or were you surprised that a "poor ukrainian prostitute" would come to this forum with "highly intellectual men" and defend her name??Yes i am here,and everything you say will be used against you.

[jetmike74]

I am not a FAKE either. My pictures are REAL,my name is REAL,AND! You can check my passport details at the  agency.I recommend you to stop your abusive posts.Because I also mean what I post. Or were you surprised that a "poor ukrainian prostitute" would come to this forum with "highly intellectual men" and defend her name??Yes i am here,and everything you say will be used against you.

GOOD LUCK.

[AC]

I agree.
No girl would post her pictures on this forum or any other forum.

I don't agree.  VWRW posted photos of a relative of hers at her request.  But totally apples to orange as no agency is involved.