Lawsuit Against Anastasia Date I Believe I Can Win

[Faux Pas]

I'll stand in Jone's defense. He saw an injustice and looked into it. Good going Jone.

cbstogner, you have been stalking this woman. You sir, are proof positive that money, youth and looks do not a good person make. Four trips to Ukraine? Really? Have you not learned anything? Most sex tourist don't. You deserve everything you get and I hope you go back.

Jason, good to see you back on the boards. I was dismayed and sorry to hear of at the death of your brethren. I actually checked to make sure it wasn't you. My condolences. I think you have Jone wrong. You and Jone are both good guys. You might find that out if ya'll communicate.

[cbstogner]

cbstogner, you have been stalking this woman.

haha this cracks me up. I wanted to talk to the real girl, not a translator - she speaks English dumbass

[Faux Pas]

haha this cracks me up. I wanted to talk to the real girl, not a translator - she speaks English dumbass

Ah okay, so now I'm the dumbass? So who is the dumbass that saw her on AD and stalked her on VK then, blames a poster on RWD because HE can't close the deal? That's not me, dumbass. You are pitiful. If you have a modicum of game, you would be on your way there now. You ain't and you don't 

[cbstogner]

Ah okay, so now I'm the dumbass? So who is the dumbass that saw her on AD and stalked her on VK then, blames a poster on RWD because HE can't close the deal? That's not me, dumbass. You are pitiful. If you have a modicum of game, you would be on your way there now. You ain't and you don't 

Actually, things were going pretty well until jon f***** it up, on purpose might I add. Before she blocked me, she sent me a a pic of his private message and in his message, he included the word "scam." He's a f***** hater. Here, this time I blocked out his first and last name. Did I give your bitch ass permission to contact her!? That was my girl, f**** loser.

[Faux Pas]

Actually, things were going pretty well until jon f***** it up, on purpose might I add. Before she blocked me, she sent me a a pic of his private message and in his message, he included the word "scam." He's a f***** hater. Here, this time I blocked out his first and last name. Did I give your bitch ass permission to contact her!? That was my girl, f**** loser.

Sorry dude, you just got no game. Sucks don't it? Sorry about your bad luck.

[cbstogner]

Sorry dude, you just got no game. Sucks don't it? Sorry about your bad luck.

I find this comment amusing for the fact that after my gf and I brokeup, I had a new girl each night and posted many of their pics earlier in this thread.

You all are the same exact jealous ass guys I have to deal with when I'm talking to the hottest girl in club, seriously. It's funny, even a Ukrainian stated that it's the foreigners that get into fights in the clubs, not them. haha they get all mad because they spent their life savings flying over there and then they have to try to outdo me - next to impossible.

[Boethius]

Some of the men responding to you are married.  They are also mature enough to realize that, whatever "hot girl" you take home is irrelevant.  First, it's subjective, and second, even were it not, there is always a hotter girl that some other guy has, somewhere else. 

Having read this forum for a while, I think virtually nobody who posts here cares how well you score with a bunch of girls in bars.  Most men here have been there and done that, and grown beyond it.  They have found, or are looking for a long term commitment.  You may think you have invented sex, or something new, but you haven't. 

[cbstogner]

Some of the men responding to you are married.  They are also mature enough to realize that, whatever "hot girl" you take home is irrelevant.  First, it's subjective, and second, even were it not, there is always a hotter girl that some other guy has, somewhere else. 

Having read this forum for a while, I think virtually nobody who posts here cares how well you score with a bunch of girls in bars.  Most men here have been there and done that, and grown beyond it.  They are have found, or are looking for a long term commitment.  You may think you have invented sex, or something new, but you haven't.

I give you permission to email her and ask her for her age. pfffff The guy was 100% trying to F*** up my chances with her.

[Boethius]

First, I don't think I need your permission.  Second, I don't really care how old she is.  Third, I wasn't referring to jone's post at all.  My point is not about that particular girl.  It's about you, and your posts.  Your view that everyone here is jealous of you is misplaced.  It's the dictionary definition of the callowness of youth.  Your attitude toward women, as displayed here, is also not particularly positive.  Now, to be fair to you, there are a fair number of guys who have posted, or are posting here, who are equally misogynistic.  You just happen to be younger, and therefore, cockier about it.   If you are as you present here, were you dating my daughter, I would do everything I could, surreptitiously, of course, to break you up.  Plus, I'd pray a lot.

[cbstogner]

Eh, I'm actually a pretty good guy when not being attacked. Also, things I have said were used specifically to get on certain people's nerves.

[Boethius]

OK.

As you travel to Ukraine, and are not older than a hen's teeth (i.e., middle aged or beyond, as most of us codgers here are), you could be a very positive poster for this forum.  Please consider that, and ignore those who take swipes at you. (on the forehead, in a maternal manner).

[sleepycat]

Also, things I have said were used specifically to get on certain people's nerves.

Ladies and gentlemen there you have it, a self confessed troll!

[jone]

You know,

He posted a copy of my message to her.  It was text book.  I quoted exactly what he said.  The word scam was used by him, in the middle of his post.  That is HIS post that he was replaying back on my message to the woman.  This 'KID' can't take responsibility for his own actions.  And then he can't see how screwed up that is.

My situation is fairly simple.  If someone says that there is a scammer, I'll be the first to try and verify and call her out to simply help out.  But this had 'burned wanna be boyfriend' all over it. 

Why were we involved in the first place?  Because the guy called her out as a scammer. (Oh, that's right!)

As JayH pointed out, there are very sophisticated reasons why ADate should be called to the carpet.  I have found that he has more knowledge on this topic than anyone that I have met.  He knows from both the repository (or website)  side as an aggregator (sp) and from the agency side.  He has met the agency photographer, the TERP and the chat girls and got them to tell their stories.  How do I know this?  I had dinner with two of the chat girls that Jay had befriended.

My experience is less than, but more targeted, than Jay's.  My goal was to define the tools necessary to separate the chat girls from the real women who wanted to find a husband.  To that end, I have been very successful.  There are a number of simple steps to take which will reveal an agency hack vs. a husband searcher every time.  But those tools have been written about here before.

I am afraid this kid has missed the entire reason why people search the FSU countries for wives.  If he wants some gal to pull her panties down, I suggest he comes out to California and spends some time on the beach.  At this time of year there are probably a 1,000,000 of them basking in the sun from Laguna to Malibu.  He is more suited to that mentality then to the mentality of this search that he says he is on.  Because I can assure you that the women that he will find in the FSU will eventually hold him accountable for his actions.  Such is not so much the case with the Malibu Barbies that we have in Southern California.  They will suck the money out of you faster than you can say 'Bob's your Uncle' and be on to the next guy.  Just like this idiot claims to do with the women he meets.

And just for cbstogner's 411, I have never been in a club in Ukraine.  I don't like the loud music and find the women that go to such clubs distasteful.  When I am in Kyiv, I typically will go to hear whatever classical music is playing at the Opera House or other places.  I like spending time on the river at the private invite restaurants that are reserved for the government.   There are a couple of good fishing holes south on the Dneiper.   This summer I have rented sailboats and spent time sailing up and down the Bug river.  I know I sound like a stodgy old guy, but I am probably fifteen years older than you.  I just have different tastes.

Good luck, cbstogner, with your conquests, you probably won't hear from me again.  As I said, I just have different tastes.

[mendeleyev]

This immature child is one of the reasons why I sometimes hate being identified as American in the FSU. His kind is noticed, although not in a positive light, yet there are so many decent Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies, etc, who come and volunteer time, effort at their own expense to make a difference in places like Ukraine and Russia. They never get a day in the press and rarely a reputation on the street but what they do positively changes lives.

Then a troll like this comes along with the mentality of an 11 year old and all he wants to do is bring a lawsuit against a girl he can't date. Stupid. He looks older than 11, but certainly doesn't seem like it mentally or emotionally.

With all due respect Bo, before he could be a positive poster he'd have to be a positive person.

[cbstogner]

How about all you guys post a photo of you with your girl? I would like to enjoy a good laugh after Jon decided to quote me on this forum to the girl - like I wanted her to see this. He knew it would do some damage, and that's why he did it. Jon, you're a desperate old honky, and I don't really care what you do in your spare time. Me? I have a type. Dark complected, blue eyed, brunettes with huge boobs that are rare in the states.

I just booked my flight and I'll let you all know how it goes! I'll post pics

[Gator]

How about all you guys post a photo of you with your girl? I would like to enjoy a good laugh after Jon decided to quote me on this forum to the girl - like I wanted her to see this. He knew it would do some damage, and that's why he did it. Jon, you're a desperate old honky, and I don't really care what you do in your spare time. Me? I have a type. Dark complected, blue eyed, brunettes with huge boobs that are rare in the states.

Our photos can be found in RWD.  My wife is indeed physically beautiful, yet even more remarkable with regard to her soul, her fascinating accomplishments in life, her sense of class, etc.   BTW, she is your physical type of woman except she has light green eyes. 

She has been pursued by accomplished yet shallow RM throughout her life, whom she has ignored.    I feel incredibly lucky to be loved by her. She is 48-yo, and very young for me, yet a splendid example of  what life could be with a RW who has much more than remarkable beauty.
 
Because I have two sons your age, I have a different perspective than some of the younger RWD men.  I read you with some amusement and with some concern.  My concern is that you do not realize that there is much more to a woman than the color of her eyes and hair and the size of her boobs.  And that non-physical stuff is far more important.  Being so fixated on narrow physical qualities, you are either less mature than the typical 30-yo, or you are indeed a shallow man.   I made a similar comment to you earlier in this thread, and I have seen nothing since then to change my mind.
 
Given what we know about you, I believe any genuine RW with a measure of intelligence, class and practicality will drop you.  Such RW value men for reasons that may seem foreign to you.    Meanwhile, have a lot of fun with the young 21-yo RW, but do not expect a LTR unless she is as shallow as you.   Perhaps you will have time to contemplate.  If so, reflect on the criticism made of you by RWD men and surely some others.  File it away.   
 
 
P. S.  Jone may have done you a favor.  The last woman you have shown seems based merely on her photo to be more mature and classy than the dyev on the bike. 
 
P. S. S.   Before you go, what happened with Svetlana in Romania?   Why will be different in this coming trip?

[cbstogner]

or you are indeed a shallow man.

Oh I admit it, I am pretty freaking shallow.

Before you go, what happened with Svetlana in Romania?   Why will be different in this coming trip?

Svet, she's a cam girl. Just thought it would be fun to meet one. Different? I had troubles with alcohol, and I fixed that problem.

[Gator]

I had troubles with alcohol, and I fixed that problem.

Two steps in the right direction - not denying it and then fixing it. 
 
There is hope for you.  Stay with it. 

[mendeleyev]

How about all you guys post a photo of you with your girl?

Girl? Really? Someday perhaps you'll be able to graduate up to a woman. Even my three daughters are ladies in the real sense. Let's see, who are the girls in my life? Okay, guess we can count nieces and extended cousins. Other than the children of cousins, I don't often hang around many girls.

I would like to enjoy a good laugh after Jon decided to quote me on this forum to the girl - like I wanted her to see this. He knew it would do some damage, and that's why he did it.

Wait a sec, earlier you were proclaiming that she was evil and a scammer.

Now you admit that wanted to meet up but at this time she is mad at you because Jone blew your game of posting her photos and info on the Internet without her knowledge.

Yes, you are shallow. I hope that you get professional help with the alcohol and other issues in your life and make the changes necessary to become a man someday. Then you can be the sort of man who will attract a real woman.

[jone]

It's kind of too bad.  You have me all wrong.  I have no negative agenda.  There may be other folks here who do, but I really don't have an ax to grind and I certainly didn't try to bust a possible date with someone that you expressed disdain for.  The reality is that when I first came on this forum I thought that ADate deserved to be firebombed and its executive team brought to justice in leg irons.  Now I'm a bit more subtle.

In reality, I thought that you were done with that woman.  If you read your first post, you said that she ignored you, that's why you wanted to bring suit against her / Anastasia Date.  I actually thought I was helping the cause by ascertaining whether she was of age.  You imagine that people are gunning for you when it is simply not true.  All events happening in the past day and a half would never have happened if you simply had kept your mouth shut. 

You are your own worst enemy. 

I will tell you that the Opera Hotel in Kyiv is a nice boutique hotel and is and around lots of nice places to eat.  It is in a different part of town and a little pricey.  But I sure like it.  I'll be staying there, most likely, one day this week.   

As for women that I have dated and am dating, I have posted here and on the other site various different pictures.  If you go through the gallery, you will see that I base my assessment of women differently than you do. 

[Jumper]

You do take some great photo's.
You really should be more careful about posting people's VK profiles , personal information, etc , or accusing them of scam,if you don't appreciate such yourself.



You can pretend all you want in the  anonymity of net , but open social media tends to keep a lot of that in check.Your username here, is all over on dozens of profiles,you expect anonymity while making accusations and posting personal information about others? 
Dating  a Ukrainian teen at your age ,and alleged accomplishment level in life , then tossing money at her on a birthday when she deemed your initial amount not enough ,is not a guy with game.
  You seem reasonably successful,you've obviously traveled a bit,and had some fun.Nothing wrong with that,although it would be nice if you dint act a living personification of a truly  bad stereotype when abroad.
  There is something wrong with acting like you were naively taken in by some teenager, and scammed,when that is far from the reality,and posting up photos here with mostly  unwarranted accusations to the individuals involved.   Hope you enjoyed the tour to Prypiat, and no I really doubt a modest photography fb page is dropping panties like a rock star in Ukraine ,without you embellishing that story quite  a bit, which by your first post here seems to be your MO.

Good luck, don't expect much slack here , your current attitude and lack of self respect ,and lack of  respect for people in
a less economically equal situation isn't going to be well received.



by the way, yes ADate is set up to mislead, although  it isnt defined as scam.
Many companies embelish in advertising  to make money.
Yes, most of the young women you'll encounter are there to make money.

Its bit off  you'd have any huge  issue with that,but entertain the idea of going to see a romanian cam girl instead,with the intent of misleading her a bit yourself.

[cbstogner]

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[Muzh]

As you may recall, Jason, some quarters of RWD find contacting underage girls perfectly acceptable, even admirable.

 

[JayH]

1/Are you threatening me? Cool, you stalked me... I also know the first and last name of an individual who I have beaf with, however, I am not threatening him.

2/I posted proof that her mother was trying to solicit girls with money to sign up with Adate.

3/ I stated that I might have further evidence that Adate is a scam, after all, that's what I think. I'm done, I came her because I found proof that Adate was paying these girls, and all you all do is attack
4/ I retaliated, and add some entertainment to the mix, since that's what I do, I'm an entertainer. Now I'm being threatened, and I really don't have time to get 

5/The funny thing is it doesn't really matter where I am  - Ukraine just allows me to go 10 years younger. Unlike you, I can get American ass.

Answer to 1/ Making any threat or implied threat to anyone here only shows that you are the complete "dill" I referred to in earlier post .You have no idea who is on the forum   and making enemies driven by your immature ego is truly a dumb thing to do. I am not one who believes that the internet is not real life.Accusing others of stalking you is quite funny coming from a guy that sort to ridicule a girl publicly that you did not know.
2/ You seem to think  that you discovered something new and unknown to the forums!! How naive can you possible be? In your ignorance you have not even done basic search of forums--where you can see huge amount of material dealing with ADate (& other websites) flaws and practices.
3/  See answer 2
4/Entertainer? If you mean getting people to laugh about you--that may be true-- but being the joke is not being entertaining!! 
5/Buffoons like you and your attitude is what gets Americans( and others) such a bad name in Ukraine .The fundamentals you have expressed here so an immaturity and stupidity almost beyond belief--except that you keep making more posts to prove it!!

[Jumper]

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cbstogner-


why the edit?


I am a moderator here,just not this section,
if you'd like to comment about people easily finding your profiles, you might consider that you dint just *happen * upon any of those girls VK profile pages before you posted them?

 You did some very basic research anyone on the net knows how to do,which you have already showed that you
understand how, as you did the same to another member here just prior as well.

 You want things changed when you don't have complete anonymity? I'm ok with that,
but it was fine when the RW did not have that option or even know of your posts?
If you were truly scammed , what are you afraid of?

Sounds to me like you lack the courage of your convictions.

Sheesh you are a tad touchy, define what threat?

I merely stated you are more than a bit naive to think you can so easily track down these girls VK profiles and not expect the same i return.Anonymity isnt exactly promised on the net.

Stalked you?  Dear Lord, i simply looked up your profile.Exactly what you did to another member here, and to a couple of Ukrainian girls..
somehow it doesnt taste the same to you? imagine 


I know Adate's business model is suspect ,far better than you imagine ,and with far more proofs, and have long held a stance against it.
Your personal vendetta against a teenager that dumped you ,while posting her personal profile ,is different than a complaint against a corporations business practices.

Please regale me with more conquests to prove your stud'liness,, but dont forget to stop by Romania and use the impoverished  girls  *stripping in vegas* aspirations to get some ..