What to do...Top 10 list

[Tim7]

Well boys, I tried my best to give you some solid advice. But some of you are soooooo naive and get so defensive.....

TOP 10:

1- Forget Kiev. You dont have a good chance of finding a good girl in this city. Trust me! Many of the girls are from other cities, many speak English, but Kiev changes people!

2- Try to STAY AWAY from girls who have very good knowledge of internet. There are russian dating web sites that many of these girls know about. Many of them meet many russian and ukrainians boys using these sites. Of course if you get her user info to these sites then you know what she is all about and feels about sex

3- Do you really want to get to know her? Not a bad idea to know her email and chat user info. You will be surprised

4- When you bring her over here make sure to install keyboard logger on the computer. You want to make sure she is saying the right things to people

 

Will be back with 5-10 later.... gotta go!

Boys, RELAX dont get so defensive, SEX is like drinking water in Eastern Europe...


 

Timdman

[Jet]

[user=834]Tim7[/user] wrote:

Boys, RELAX dont get so defensive, SEX is like drinking water in Eastern Europe...

Maybe for you, but I don't ever recall getting sick after having sex in Russia.

I do remember spending a night in the WC after having the drinking water though  

[Turboguy]

Only a night Jet,  you were darn lucky.   The whole EC tour I was on got hit and we had 10 or more days of misery.

[groovlstk]

On a trip to Ukraine last Summer, I got a case of Kuchma's revenge that  took nearly a month to subdue -  and only after a dose of strong  antibiotics. Thank God it didn't really hit me until I was back in the  US.

[happiness]

[user=834]Tim7[/user] wrote:

4- When you bring her over here make sure to install keyboard logger on the computer. You want to make sure she is saying the right things to people

 

What keyboard logger do you recommend?  Does it understand Cyrillic?

[BC]

What junk advice Tim, really.

Even if from Timbuktu she will change when she gets to your 'big city' anyway so what's the point.. a Kiev, Moscow or other larger city woman will probably be more wysiwyg..  Learn to search instead of settling for packaged 'off the shelf' warez.

Gonna keep her from learning how to use your computer and getting online?.. HAHAHA...  before we met my wife had never touched one.. you should see her now helping me to dig for info on RU www sites.

Keyloggers?.. checking activity from other forums and usergroups?..  If your doubts go this far you shouldn't be thinking about K-anything. 

Some around here would say 'buy a puppy instead' but many RW seekers couldn't even keep a puppy happy.  Try goldfish.. they're a lot easier to flush when the fun is over than a RW.

[jb]

Gosh, BC, you are getting as cynical as me about the quality of men in this game.

[Son of Clyde]

I was under the impression you should trust the woman from day one.

The keylogger and other spyware should only be brought into the picture in the most extreme of situations.

Tim7, no wonder you have no Mana.

[Turboguy]

To me if you can't trust someone who has given you no reason not to trust them you have a problem you need to deal with and suggest looking under "P" in the yellow pages.   If you can't trust anyone, then maybe you should just stay alone in your life and make bowling your hobby not FSU women.

Being one of the few as far as I know who installed a keylogger on my computer I will add for those that have a need, 007 spy is a good one and you can find it at Tuscows.  It logs keystrokes, takes screen shots and will e-mail you logs to whatever e-mail account you want to set up.  Of course the keystrokes will give you her e-mail accounts and passwords.

Now since I said that I will give a brief description of the situtation that cause me to use it and what it did for me.  There is a lot on RWD about my situation and I don't mean to repeat old news, but In my case I had a gal here on a 90 day visa.  The visit was never what I hoped for but about half way through she suddenly came up with a soap opera that came on at midnight for an hour on Russian TV that she simply had to stay up for.   From upstairs, alone, in my bed I could hear the computer keys clicking for hours.  One night she stayed up till 6 am on the computer.  She would not tell me what was going on with our relationship.  When I came home from work she would always be on the computer and as I walked in the door she would switch from e-mail to a card game on the computer every time.   I decided that it was better to find out what was going on in her life and in her mind and put the spyware on the computer.

Well, she was writing a bunch of guys.  One looser from Las Vegas who was going to do a K-1 for her but they were trying to figure out how to do it without having met.  She was in a hot and heavy relationship with a german guy and I found out she met one guy locally and had lunch with him but he kept drinking coke and burping and that turned her off.  I also found out a lot of what her thoughts were that she would not share with me. 

At the and of the 90 days she returned to Russia.  Three days after she got back she said she realized she had made the biggest mistake of her life.   She said her keyboard was covered with tears that she was crying so hard and that she hated life in Russia after seeing what life was like here and that she really loved me and wanted to come back to me.   She wanted me to do a new K-1.

Well, of course I had the passwords to her e-mail.  At that point her letters to her german friend had sort of a how is work type of tone and I thought she was sincere and I decided to do a new K-1 for her.   Before the ink was dry on the paperwork or the tears from her computer had dried the tone of her messages to her German friend changed from how is work to I want to meet you as soon as possible.  I will come and spend two weeks with you, just send me the paperwork for the visa to visit germany.   Had I not had the spyware, I probably would have made the biggest mistake of my life.  I have to say it was well worth it. 

[catzenmouse]

BC, JB,

 I'm in 100% agreement with you on this so called King of Great Advice. I think Bugs Bunny said it best: "What a marooooon! What an ignoraamus!

 I don't think that even a goldfish would stand a chance. Maybe those SeaMonkeys that you used to see advertised on the back of comic books.

Ken

[Tim7]

To me if you can't trust someone who has given you no reason not to trust them you have a problem you need to deal with and suggest looking under "P" in the yellow pages.   If you can't trust anyone, then maybe you should just stay alone in your life and make bowling your hobby not FSU women.

Being one of the few as far as I know who installed a keylogger on my computer I will add for those that have a need, 007 spy is a good one and you can find it at Tuscows.  It logs keystrokes, takes screen shots and will e-mail you logs to whatever e-mail account you want to set up.  Of course the keystrokes will give you her e-mail accounts and passwords.

Now since I said that I will give a brief description of the situtation that cause me to use it and what it did for me.  There is a lot on RWD about my situation and I don't mean to repeat old news, but In my case I had a gal here on a 90 day visa.  The visit was never what I hoped for but about half way through she suddenly came up with a soap opera that came on at midnight for an hour on Russian TV that she simply had to stay up for.   From upstairs, alone, in my bed I could hear the computer keys clicking for hours.  One night she stayed up till 6 am on the computer.  She would not tell me what was going on with our relationship.  When I came home from work she would always be on the computer and as I walked in the door she would switch from e-mail to a card game on the computer every time.   I decided that it was better to find out what was going on in her life and in her mind and put the spyware on the computer.

Well, she was writing a bunch of guys.  One looser from Las Vegas who was going to do a K-1 for her but they were trying to figure out how to do it without having met.  She was in a hot and heavy relationship with a german guy and I found out she met one guy locally and had lunch with him but he kept drinking coke and burping and that turned her off.  I also found out a lot of what her thoughts were that she would not share with me. 

At the and of the 90 days she returned to Russia.  Three days after she got back she said she realized she had made the biggest mistake of her life.   She said her keyboard was covered with tears that she was crying so hard and that she hated life in Russia after seeing what life was like here and that she really loved me and wanted to come back to me.   She wanted me to do a new K-1.

Well, of course I had the passwords to her e-mail.  At that point her letters to her german friend had sort of a how is work type of tone and I thought she was sincere and I decided to do a new K-1 for her.   Before the ink was dry on the paperwork or the tears from her computer had dried the tone of her messages to her German friend changed from how is work to I want to meet you as soon as possible.  I will come and spend two weeks with you, just send me the paperwork for the visa to visit germany.   Had I not had the spyware, I probably would have made the biggest mistake of my life.  I have to say it was well worth it. 

 

Thank you my friend!

The posters who attacked me in this topic are just just too immature and not very intelligent.

GROW UP! and see the big picture!

[Shadow]

Let me also give my fully immature and defensive reply.....

[user=834]Tim7[/user] wrote:

Well boys, I tried my best to give you some solid advice. But some of you are soooooo naive and get so defensive.....

TOP 10:

1- Forget Kiev. You dont have a good chance of finding a good girl in this city. Trust me! Many of the girls are from other cities, many speak English, but Kiev changes people!

I know one very good girl from Kiev. But yes, if you want the girls to see you as something from another planet.....you better go to some village.

2- Try to STAY AWAY from girls who have very good knowledge of internet. There are russian dating web sites that many of these girls know about. Many of them meet many russian and ukrainians boys using these sites. Of course if you get her user info to these sites then you know what she is all about and feels about sex

Sure...God forbid that she has someting to compare you with...:P

3- Do you really want to get to know her? Not a bad idea to know her email and chat user info. You will be surprised

Not if you find a girl who does not know how to use internet. You will find nothing.

4- When you bring her over here make sure to install keyboard logger on the computer. You want to make sure she is saying the right things to people

Absolutely. And while you are busy, install spy cameras in every room. There is no need to trust her, she is after all only your slave.

 

Will be back with 5-10 later.... gotta go!

I can't wait.....:cool:

Perhaps we can rename the topic. What to do.......NOT!!!!

[catzenmouse]

[user=834]Tim7[/user] wrote:

The posters who attacked me in this topic are just just too immature and not very intelligent.

GROW UP! and see the big picture!

Well then I just totally apologise. Your thoughts are just so well crafted and deeply intricate in the vastness of the subtle facets of the RW that most of us are just plain too stupid to comprehend. Thank you so very much for showing us the error of our ways. I wish for you the very best life long love affair between you and your reflection.

Ken

[happiness]

Turbo, thanks for sharing your experience... while the rest of the board is busy judging the actions of men they don't know, I am trying to learn something and your post was very valuable.

[catzenmouse]

Turbo, thanks for sharing your experience... while the rest of the board is busy judging the actions of men they don't know, I am trying to learn something and your post was very valuable.

happiness,

 No one is judging Turbo here. The problem is with the selfproclaimed "timdman" who has thrown out a lot of crap and when called on it has responded with snide one liners and other such words of wisdom as "Trust me" and "I've got a lot of stories".

 There are many, many people here with great amounts of knowledge on various topics but so far not one bit of that has been shown by the starter of this thread.

Ken

[rose]

[user=834]Tim7[/user] wrote:

The posters who attacked me in this topic are just just too immature and not very intelligent.

GROW UP! and see the big picture!

Tim, are those your own "pearls" or you again borrowed it from somewhere else like you did with your previous posts and named it "My thoughts..."? Although, on the second thought, judging by the whole depth of the wisdom of your list, this one looks like your own. Indeed, the majority of this forum is too immature to comprehend the whole greatness of your thinking.

P.S. By the way, are you going to meet those 15 girls one at a time, or just the whole group together? Maybe you'll get lucky and will marry all of them, too... Hm... Don't forget to invite us to your weddings, for we could witness your success. I'm already envy those girls: to be honored to be chosen by you... What else a woman can dream about...

[JPjr]

Rose owns Tim. I wish I could give you more mana:D

[rose]

Rose owns Tim. I wish I could give you more mana:D

 Talking about mana:

Tim, by huge amount of mana you've got here you probably can see how highly people respect you on this board! Another great succes of yours!

[Turboguy]

I have usually been a very trusting person.  I would not recommend spyware as a wholesale solution to trying to get to know your partner.   Even in my case it was probably not the right thing to do but I think it did help me avert what would have ended up being a disaster in one form or the other.  I would be happy to never have to do something like that again.   If I ever do find my gal I want to be able to trust her and I want to give her no reason not to trust me.

[LarsXYZ]

[user=834]What keyboard logger do you recommend?  Does it understand Cyrillic?[/user]

[user=834]
 Keylogger:

[/user]http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/[/url]

or

http://www.spector.com/

Personally I would say that these tools should only be used if all alerts are flashing anyway:)

Regards Lars

[ronin308]

I think the important difference between Turboguy's story and Tim's "advice" is that in TGs case he was given a reason to suspect.

Reread this part of his post:

<quote>To me if you can't trust someone who has given you no reason not to trust them you have a problem you need to deal with and suggest looking under "P" in the yellow pages.   If you can't trust anyone, then maybe you should just stay alone in your life and make bowling your hobby not FSU women</quote>

By that definition Tim needs to be looking for a good shrink not a Russian woman. 

 

[MandM]

What keyboard logger do you recommend?  Does it understand Cyrillic?

Makes you wonder why on earth a happily (judging by the nickname) married man would be interested in such thing.

[PeeWee]

On a trip to Ukraine last Summer, I got a case of Kuchma's revenge that took nearly a month to subdue -  and only after a dose of strong antibiotics. Thank God it didn't really hit me until I was back in the US.

Same with me when I went to Hong Kong. It can happen to the best of us, anywhere.

Peewee

[goleta2sin]

I am neither defensive or uninelligent, but I could not disagree more with your list.  What makes you an expert? I am a psychologist and healhy skepticism is prudent; however, surreptious stealth techiniques unveil a lack of conidence in one's decision making process.  The establishment of a genuine and authentic relationship removes the need for clandestine detective work.   If you need to spy then the relationship is not valid or you are likely to insecure to engage in this process.

 Kiev is a large city and all of the women cannot be described by sweeping generalizations.  This may be the worst advice you offer. Knowledge is power is and without education any indiviual will be fleeced and exploited. It is as likely to occur in Kiev as a village. Without properly educating yourself before engaging in the process the Village idiot may empty your pockets.      

[catzenmouse]

I think the village idiot started this discussion...