Steveboy's Conspiracy Theories

[steveboy]

Forums such as forum fiancee do great business, I mean you know who owns it so if you don't want register at the site its no big deal!
Once you have signed up to the marketing machine they have the most important ingredient 

  And i wonder what that could be?? Any idea out there all you clever clogs?

[Isthmus]

I have used EM in the past.  Only have had positive experiences with that website. Have met 4 ladies via EM. All four were genuine women looking for genuine relationships. If I want to use an FSU dating site again I'd go back to EM.

[steveboy]

Read a bit more and you will find them.
By the way if you find the MOB scene that fishy, why are you still part of it? Perhaps the money is too good to refuse?

As I said all will come to light soon enough 

[steveboy]

I have used EM in the past.  Only have had positive experiences with that website. Have met 4 ladies via EM. All four were genuine women looking for genuine relationships. If I want to use an FSU dating site again I'd go back to EM.

Im not and never have disputed the reputation of that site!

[steveboy]

Russiancupid.com is the biggest FSU women on the net and there are literally thousands of happily married couples from that site, has anyone here met their wife on that site?
Just asking

[Shadow]

As I said all will come to light soon enough 

Another mystery announcement.... all the married men here are holding their breath, after all now thye can dump their wife and get a new one.....

[Faux Pas]

Forums such as forum fiancee do great business, I mean you know who owns it so if you don't want register at the site its no big deal!
Once you have signed up to the marketing machine they have the most important ingredient 

  And i wonder what that could be?? Any idea out there all you clever clogs?

The real question is; "Who gives a fat rats patoot"? This is a forum for discovery and dialogue of Eastern European women 

[steveboy]

The real question is; "Who gives a fat rats patoot"? This is a forum for discovery and dialogue of Eastern European women 

It depends! Would you want to sign up to a forum if you knew your sign up e mail was added to some database to send you spam on an ongoing basis from the operator? Don't get me wrong Im not saying it is the case here, but I do know of some sites that use this tactic. Weeks later all sorts of shit comes recommending you to other sites.

So "Who gives a rats patoot"  I guess that would be any guys who stumble upon a site/forum out of interest and innocently sign up, thinking that site/forum is there to "Help in the discovery and dialogue of Eastern European women." When actually its not quiet the case.

Im just pointing out a fact, thats all

[Boethius]

Name those forums.

[pokerintherear]

Steve

I looked at your website and give my thoughts as a customer compared to EM.

First it has the feel of a pay per letter site. Of course its not but it is the way it feels at the home page.

EM is open to the public. You do not have to join or sign up to view all the information and prices. you can view all the profiles except the additional pictures the members have posted. You can see every man and woman on the site without joining including the city they are from, big profile picture, and personal information.

Your site is a little different. Yes you can see a small picture of lady with country of residence. Anytime you try and look more or even a break down of membership and prices you get a flashing " join here" banner. Yes, I know its free so is EM. If you want more than basic membership you pay small fee. Same with yours.

As a customer I see EM more user friendly than yours. I also like the fact I can look at every woman's profile before I decide to join and make contact. I also know how much this will cost. I cannot see exact figure with your site? Yes, I know its free but you do have a gold membership.

As a potential customer I would join EM before yours even though you have just as many profiles. I like the idea of seeing all information before I join. Look into allowing your site to operate the same as EM. I think you would receive very good feed back.

For what its worth I have used EM in the past and do not have any complaints. They do have the gold diggers and GCG as most dating sites do but you figure this out after sometime with mail and chat. I several profiles on site that are 5-7 years old. This is not good on part of EM

[steveboy]

That could be risky!! For example maybe I don't fancy having the trouble with a hacker that could be hired to cause problems. As I said its a rat infested industry!

Ok let me ask this, why would any legitimate business/web site working in the rat infested MOB industry wish to hide the owner of their web site? Is there anything to hide?
You live in the clouds with regard to what goes on in the MOB industry)) A huge amount of the MOB sites have their databases available to purchase on the net!

[steveboy]

Steve

I looked at your website and give my thoughts as a customer compared to EM.

First it has the feel of a pay per letter site. Of course its not but it is the way it feels at the home page.

EM is open to the public. You do not have to join or sign up to view all the information and prices. you can view all the profiles except the additional pictures the members have posted. You can see every man and woman on the site without joining including the city they are from, big profile picture, and personal information.

Your site is a little different. Yes you can see a small picture of lady with country of residence. Anytime you try and look more or even a break down of membership and prices you get a flashing " join here" banner. Yes, I know its free so is EM. If you want more than basic membership you pay small fee. Same with yours.

As a customer I see EM more user friendly than yours. I also like the fact I can look at every woman's profile before I decide to join and make contact. I also know how much this will cost. I cannot see exact figure with your site? Yes, I know its free but you do have a gold membership.

As a potential customer I would join EM before yours even though you have just as many profiles. I like the idea of seeing all information before I join. Look into allowing your site to operate the same as EM. I think you would receive very good feed back.

For what its worth I have used EM in the past and do not have any complaints. They do have the gold diggers and GCG as most dating sites do but you figure this out after sometime with mail and chat. I several profiles on site that are 5-7 years old. This is not good on part of EM

I do not have any problems with criticism and that is a good point about prices being shown. In actual fact next month I have a totally new updated version coming on line and that will also happen to my Ukrainian, Filipino and Asian sites., and will consider your points.
Rome wasn't built in a day:)
But once again I will re iterate the point. I did not at any time criticise EM I was asking a simple question "Does EM have any connection to this forum commercially"

[steveboy]

 "Steveboy's Conspiracy Theories"  well we are not talking about going online to buy a new jumper are we? Were talking about going online to search for a partner, which is a task in itself. As they say "Nothing is as it seems in Russia" a term that would be  understatement for the MOB industry

[Mod3]

I do not have any problems with criticism and that is a good point about prices being shown. In actual fact next month I have a totally new updated version coming on line and that will also happen to my Ukrainian, Filipino and Asian sites., and will consider your points.
Rome wasn't built in a day:)
But once again I will re iterate the point. I did not at any time criticise EM I was asking a simple question "Does EM have any connection to this forum commercially"

Let me refer you to http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=29  If anything there is unclear to you, please contact the owners.

[steveboy]

I have wrote to them several times on other matters, but had no answers((
Would you happen to have a direct contact mail?

[Shadow]

But once again I will re iterate the point. I did not at any time criticise EM I was asking a simple question "Does EM have any connection to this forum commercially"

A couple of years ago they were one of the prominent advertisers, and I know Elena had a commercial membership like yours. At this time I have no idea what, if any, connection they have. And to be honest I do not care, as RWD has as far as I can see never defended commercial interest over giving information.

[Faux Pas]

That could be risky!! For example maybe I don't fancy having the trouble with a hacker that could be hired to cause problems. As I said its a rat infested industry!

Ok let me ask this, why would any legitimate business/web site working in the rat infested MOB industry wish to hide the owner of their web site? Is there anything to hide?
You live in the clouds with regard to what goes on in the MOB industry)) A huge amount of the MOB sites have their databases available to purchase on the net!

"Most" normal free thinking folks that come to this site are very much aware of the slime pit that is the EE MOB industry and many of the players in it. If they are not aware when they arrive, generally they are after they have taken the time to read the information here.

Did you pay any fees to sign up and post here? Of course you didn't, this site is for sharing information good and bad. You seem to have a twist in your knickers because EM's has earned some good mention. If you had bothered to read enough you'd have also learned not everybody is happy with EM's. You'd have also learned that ADate has some happy customers as well. The information is here for those that come looking for it. There is no affiliation with any of the MOB sites that I am aware of and I know a few things. I do however suspect most all of them are welcome to advertise here. It costs money to provide this venue as you well know. I would suggest you stop with you far flung suspicions and accusations unless you have some proof to your insinuations. If you have such proof, let's see it. Put up or shut up time, stevieboy   

[steveboy]

"Most" normal free thinking folks that come to this site are very much aware of the slime pit that is the EE MOB industry and many of the players in it. If they are not aware when they arrive, generally they are after they have taken the time to read the information here.

Did you pay any fees to sign up and post here? Of course you didn't, this site is for sharing information good and bad. You seem to have a twist in your knickers because EM's has earned some good mention. If you had bothered to read enough you'd have also learned not everybody is happy with EM's. You'd have also learned that ADate has some happy customers as well. The information is here for those that come looking for it. There is no affiliation with any of the MOB sites that I am aware of and I know a few things. I do however suspect most all of them are welcome to advertise here. It costs money to provide this venue as you well know. I would suggest you stop with you far flung suspicions and accusations unless you have some proof to your insinuations. If you have such proof, let's see it. Put up or shut up time, stevieboy   

I dont need the proof? You told me " I know who the owners are" 

[Admin]

I have wrote to them several times on other matters, but had no answers((
Would you happen to have a direct contact mail?

>>I have wrote to them several times on other matters, but had no answers<<

Perhaps so. If you received no reply, there may be a message in that.

>>Would you happen to have a direct contact mail?<<

Easily found. All that is required is that you READ (*with* comprehension) the Terms of Service you accepted when you joined the site - OR - that you spend a few minutes looking for the various links leading you to such TOS.

Persistent baseless allegations that serve to disrupt RWD (and contain no redeeming value) will be met with accordingly.

Capiche?

- Dan

[steveboy]

  I think my time has come to an end here.

[Admin]

  I think my time has come to an end here.

Then I trust that puts an end to your inane and baseless allegations.

Check your PM's.

- Dan

[lordtiberius]

I do find Steveboy tedious and I do not appreciate him running down my country.  But I ask you, 'Are they baseless?'  I don't think RWD is guilty of anything.  But what about the other forum(s)?  In light of the lawsuit, these are appropriate questions

[Faux Pas]

I do find Steveboy tedious and I do not appreciate him running down my country.  But I ask you, 'Are they baseless?'  I don't think RWD is guilty of anything.  But what about the other forum(s)?  In light of the lawsuit, these are appropriate questions

As for the other forums, he'd need to pose those questions there. As for his accusations here, yes those are baseless. What he has been doing equates to chumming.

[lordtiberius]

Do you really think he'd get a fair hearing there?  He was really annoying and TEDIOUS, but what he had to say was relevant.  His fishing expedition was legit because of the collegiaility of the forums.  He was right to question its practices.  The way he did it was of course tactless.  My $ .02, what do you think?

[Admin]

I do find Steveboy tedious and I do not appreciate him running down my country.  But I ask you, 'Are they baseless?'  I don't think RWD is guilty of anything.  But what about the other forum(s)?  In light of the lawsuit, these are appropriate questions

Look, RWD was founded and continues to be an impartial source of information for men and women involved in the pursuit of a romantic relationship with a partner from the former Soviet Union countries. For reference, here is the RWD Vision.

Why do you think RWD would be, or should be, informed about (or even cognizant of) issues at other internet fora? In the simplest of terms, I/we have little (or no) interest in what transpires elsewhere. Nor should we. It is enough that RWD has, for nearly a decade now, provided a valuable service that no other site on the 'net can come close to. We have endeavored to provide our constituents with:

* Anti-scam tools in the form of the Scammer Score Card and the Agency Score Card.

* The ONLY valid statistical analysis of cross-cultural marriage ever conducted.

* The Agency Code of Ethics and the Men's Code of Conduct to codify ethical behaviors.

* A free E-Book to help guide men and women in this pursuit.

No other venue has ever come close to the efforts made by RWD to encourage ethical and honest behavior on the part of the men and women engaged in this pursuit as well as the business organizations providing services to those men and women.

The focus here will be on RWD - not on any "other forum."

- Dan