Steveboy's Conspiracy Theories

[steveboy]

Passport Verified Ladies.....What is That...almost every woman profile as soon as you search has chat flashing...it just screams scammers.

From my short time (about 1 month) on EM I stayed with confirmed profiles...my Fiancé and I asked some very pointed questions and decided to meet after 2 months....but, I must admit I had more than one invite or maybe more of a plead to go on a Schengen excursion.

I guess it is pointless me trying to explain anything to you, and will leave you with your own conclusions)

[Daveman]

Im not criticising EM at all! Im just wondering if they had any connection to this forum? commercially? Just wondered

None of which I am aware.  I believe some time ago there used to be a rotating EM ad here, but that's the only commercial connection we had.. that was eliminated some time ago with the PLM contract as Sandro described.

[SANDRO43]

And all of those pinned up and witty girls readily available for chats any time are doing it out of love for Santo?

Ooooops, its's not an either/or proposition . 'Skype-available' girls MAY include a number of 'genuine' girls, the proportion in 'Skype-unavailable' girls is probably markedly less - just a numbers game, according the experiences of our members. 

[Daveman]

And all of those pinned up and witty girls readily available for chats any time are doing it out of love for Santo?   

OB-viously, he must be VERY, er... heroic! 

[steveboy]

I just wondered, Im not even sure this story is correct, but who knows in the Filthy dirty Russian brides business , who own what and what really is real?



http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/03/57290.htm

[Ooooops]

'Skype-available' girls MAY include a number of 'genuine' girls, the proportion in 'Skype-unavailable' girls is probably markedly less - just a numbers game, according the experiences of our members.

Interesting...   And taking into consideration 12-15 hour time difference I wonder why those girls just sit by their computers ready to chat.   

[Ooooops]

OB-viously, he must be VERY, er... heroic! 

 

[steveboy]

I just wondered, Im not even sure this story is correct, but who knows in the Filthy dirty Russian brides business , who own what and what really is real?



http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/03/57290.htm

The two big Russian forums both hide the owners identity? So what would a forum be classed as if it was owned by one of the big sites? An advertising tool? In which case it would make all members look complete idiots?

[SANDRO43]

Interesting...   And taking into consideration 12-15 hour time difference I wonder why those girls just sit by their computers ready to chat.   

Ooooops, you use a zebra for an avatar - albeit losing its stripes - but you sound more like a mule now - I meant Skype conversations on mutually agreed and convenient times .

[Ooooops]

Ooooops, you use a zebra for an avatar - albeit losing its stripes - but you sound more like a mule now - I meant Skype conversations on mutually agreed and convenient times .

It is an ass in disguise on my avatar.      

[Ooooops]

But they had such high standards ( probably unrealistic) most of them filtered me out.  Additionally, a lot of these women were overly liberal, and I clashed with some of them over traditional gender role issues.

I'm confused - do women in US filter out guys for being too manly or not manly enough?   

[knighta]

I remember way back when Ooooops had a happy face as her avatar. 

[steveboy]

I thought I would start this topic on a new thread Who really knows who owns what and who is trying to manipulate you. Lets look at this on a purely speculative assumption. If you woke up in the morning and found out Anastasia date actually owned a forum you was a keen participant in would you continue in that forum?



http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/03/57290.htm

[SANDRO43]

The two big Russian forums both hide the owners identity?

Your link is to an article that I quote below:

Anastasia uses the domain names Anastasiadate and Anastasiadate.com for its website. EM Online is based in Australia. "Plaintiff offers an international dating service which, for a fee, matches men in the United States with women located in Russia and the Ukraine. New York is a significant source of Anastasia's customers," the complaint states. "Elena's Models is a direct competitor of Anastasia. It operates the elenasmodels.com website and competes for the same potential customers as Anastasia in the United States. "Upon information and belief, Elena's Models operates or sponsors websites entitled 'anastasiadatefraud.com' and 'ruadventures.com.'

It does not say upon whose information or belief that allegation is based on .

Now, I don't know who is behind 'anastasiadatefraud.com', it looks like a blog and its IP resolves to:

OrgName:     Unified Layer
OrgId:          BLUEH-2
Address:      1958 South 950 East
City:             Provo
StateProv:    UT
PostalCode:  84606
Country:       US

Not much useful information, if indeed it's a proxy server . As for ruadventures.com, last I heard of it was operated by our fellow member Manny, whom you can ask directly if he's been taken over/sponsored by EM .

[steveboy]

I already asked but had no reply)

Im just asking:) 

[Boethius]

Anastasiadate, I believe, dropped its lawsuit against Elena's Models, but not, I don't think, ruadventures, so it is not likely ruadventures is owned by Elena's Models.  anastasiadatefraud.com is a forum owned by a Finn, or so he states, so again, likely not related.  I am pretty sure the suit against that site is a SLAPP lawsuit by Anastasiadate.

[Boethius]

Every body seems to be "conveniently" chatting to ladies on EM ? Im starting to wonder what the connection is? Will the real web site owner "Please stand up" ? just saying

This forum is not owned by EM.  Knock it off.  Why do posters refer to it?  Because many had success there.

[Turboguy]

Strange lawsuit.   I just took a look at the meta tags for RUA and there is nothing that would infringe on Aweb.  Of course with the lawsuit yesterday's meta tags could be another story.
As far as your question, As I recall RWG was purchased by an agency and that part didn't seem to kill it but the lack of moderation did sink that ship.  I think for me if it was run impartially I wouldn't care.  If it wasn't then I would.  In the case in point as per the article, I don't think that statement is true.
 

[lonedrake]

If you woke up in the morning and found out Anastasia date actually owned a forum you was a keen participant in would you continue in that forum?

Yes. I have no animosity towards Anastasia. I could care less.

[Faux Pas]

I know who owns this forum and I know it isn't there isn't a hidden agenda or silent owner pulling the strings. It's a big reason why I choose to spend time here. It is on the "up and up"

[Faux Pas]

I already asked but had no reply)

Im just asking:) 

Jerseyguy just gave you some feedback as a user. You discount and ignoring it as it doesn't fit with your own preconceived notion of what feedback "should be". 

Pay attention Einstein. You wonder and then enter denial. Great handle on the bidnezz there Trump

[JohnDearGreen]

I dont think so,  Just find it strange there has NEVER been a bad word said about EM on this forum:) Which is very strange, I mean you will find some bad feedback about every site its normal, no site is perfect!
I was just wondering if maybe they had taken over ownership and placed a few plants))
Nothing surprises me in this business)

sb:  Yes, I would agree the number of plugs for one certain agency is very annoying.  Are kickbacks involved?  Probably not, but I can understand why someone might think that.   I try to avoid posting the same message more than one time.  Once is enough.  If the poster is too lazy to do a web site search on a topic, I have no desire to answer the same query over and over with the same answer. Almost any idiot can do a google search and find out the top rated sites.  No need for me to tell them.

[LAman]

Jerseyguy just gave you some feedback as a user. You discount and ignoring it as it doesn't fit with your own preconceived notion of what feedback "should be". 

Pay attention Einstein. You wonder and then enter denial. Great handle on the bidnezz there Trump

FP, Jerseyguy's  feedback??? You mean a nearly married man spends 30 seconds on steve's site...and that's feedback??? I have been on for nearly 2 months and I still can't figure what he is talking about. That 'chat' feature shows a girl is online. I have never 'chatted' with any girl, I don't even know if it works. And what pop ups?? I am glad this forum doesn't take what anyone says and thinks it's golden!!
Of my experiences on EM, twice....I see no difference than any other site and I will never recommend one to anyone. This is the only forum I have been involved with that speaks so highly of EM. Before I came here, I never knew of anyone who met on EM.  Apparently many here think this forum represents a larger section of the planet. Everyone I know that is married to FSU girl would not or have no time to join a forum. Each guy is different...their experiences, what they look for, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another.
BTW, I am on steve's site. I don't give weekly updates but when I feel I have some experience to share I will. It will not be an up or down or a recommendation but just my experiences with girls there.

[southernX]

this is not a paid or sponsored advertisement 

i meT my wife on elenas website ,
just about all the other aussies i know of in long term marriages with FSU ladys did the same ,

of course it was possible back then to meet the odd scammer on that site , however most ladys where confirmed , and the style of the site etc , made it easy to use , believable , and not pushy , or too glitzy ,

given your content & posting style stevie boy , i would not even visit your site 

SX

[Daveman]

...  Apparently many here think this forum represents a larger section of the planet.

The forum represents the experience of the members of the forum, nothing more nor less.  It would be rather absurd for members of the forum to comment on 'a larger section of the planet', however that may be defined, having no experience there, don't you think? 


There are a number on here who personally used EM - met, dated and a number of that number have married.  So they talk about that experience.  It really isn't difficult to comprehend.  Guys with experience with other sites/services/whatever chime in about those.  I don't recall anyone of them stating the EM is the only way.  I also don't get your continual beef about this.  Instead of belittling those who do write about what worked for them, just add into the discussion your perspective as well. That's kinda what this is about.