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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2013, 08:01:16 PM »
What a bunch of loser talk . . . This country has in the past, can now and will in the future rise up like the mighty giant it is and get back work.

And this idea that Romney would be a worse president or was not this or that is a bunch of barnum.  How many Slacktavists on this forum ran for office or volunteered on a campaign?  But you can MONDAY MORNING quarterback a campaign even the ones they cheated in.

The idiocy continues . . .

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2013, 10:43:27 AM »
I think I said this upthread already...

I do hope that the estimated *80%* that is forecasted to be affected by this untruth are largely the ones that subscribed to the silly 'hope' and 'change'. I wish that 'stickershock' hurts more than just a mere sting.


"...Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC News that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”..."


http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/29/21222195-obama-administration-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite




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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2013, 04:03:30 PM »
I don't really want to have to beat a dead horse here, but this one is a real jackass...So maybe by posting another thought here, I'd get a pass.

I listened to our good prez' press conference yesterday and I just find myself really astonished at how our beltway circus seem to just want to make a permanent residency DC...

Everyone knew that no one knew what was in that god-forsaken Health Care Reform when it was forcibly jammed down all out collectives throats. Apparently, that wasn't the case....the White House knew all along some rotten egg were in that silly law, but instead of making it right, someone instead decided to recite what everyone in that nasty small circle of corrupted group knew this 'promise' was a farce. Making matters worst, it was politicized and recited by the top left-leaning politicians themselves.




http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2013/11/flashback-video-democrats-harry-reid-dick-durbin-patty-murray-promise-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-you-can-keep-it-under-2509358.html


...as early as 2009, they knew this was a lie! They need the folks who has their private insurance to be off their plans so they will be 'forced' to buy their insurance in the marketplace with higher premiums. That was the only way for this law to survive.


While that is simply shocking, what really upsets me is how this panned out in early October prior to the Government shutdown fiasco. The Republicans lobbied to de-fund the Law (which was stupid) and/or delay the individual mandate for a year just like the way Obama delayed the employer mandate.

Obama said this was non-negotiable and that we would veto that bill if it ever was presented to him by the conservatives. The Democrats demonized the Republicans for such a move calling them terrorists for using the fiscal budgeting period and threat of a government shutdown as a negotiating tool to 'politicize' their agenda.

Ted Cruz was crucified by the media, the polls, the Dems for the stern stand he took against this stupid bill. The Republicans were demonized.

So now that the entire septic truth had come out of this mess - OBAMA himself, as though he has the Constitutional right to do so, which he doesn't - decided to do what he warned he will veto before - amend the law which he crucified the Republicans of trying to do before. The Executive branch CANNOT amend a law.

He now faces the same bumbling moments he suffered with the  Syrian affair debacle with the Republicans in Congress. How can this stooge do this and get away with it?

I hope every single one of those folks who had their insurance cancelled because of this stupid law are the very same people who voted for this clown for a second term. This is fast becoming sweeter than had Romney win the last election.

The vast majority of the people who signed up on Obamacare so far had been those on Medicaid. With the reported 5 billion loss our USPA suffered last year (better than the 16 billion it suffered the previous year) - someone needs to pick up this tab, too. Then wait until the 'Dream' legislation kicks in.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2013, 09:12:02 PM »
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People in USA are the problem, not the politicians

It’s the entitlement mentality of too many voters that has consumed Washington and led to its dysfunction. Putting healthy people in an environment where plague rages ensures they will likely contract the disease. What is needed is an entirely new (really an old) approach to government by “we the people” and by government itself.
 
It’s difficult to change Washington because too many benefit from its current practices.   The takers are powerful and anyone who seeks to alter risks isolation and condemnation when they try to rein in unsustainable spending.
 
Would a third political party help shock the two major parties into behaving more responsibly? Possibly, but not likely.  A third-party president, or a few members of Congress who eschewed the traditional party labels, would likely find themselves in the same rut if attitudes toward government and entitlement do not change. The problem lies less in Washington than in each American citizen.
 
Since the end of the Great Depression, many Americans appear to have abandoned self-restraint, individual responsibility and accountability in favor of government as provider, protector and guarantor. The notion that people are “owed” what others have earned is primarily responsible for our enormous and growing debt. We once promoted individual initiative and people who overcame difficult circumstances. Now we punish the successful and treat the unsuccessful as victims who have no hope of improving their lot without government.
 
Despite the fact — and it is a fact — that government does many things poorly and at too high a cost, too many of us continue to turn to it for salvation. Politicians encourage this because addicting more people to government handouts keeps them in power, solidifies their careers and keeps the special perks flowing their way.
 
Nothing would change Washington faster than the transformative idea that only we the people can make our lives better by our financial and moral choices.  Such a message will be labeled “harsh” by some, but it is necessary to restore a sick economy and a nation that needs to return to its roots. This return is the cure for our national dysfunction.

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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2013, 11:38:04 PM »
The Republicans lobbied to de-fund the Law (which was stupid)

Umm, no defunding this law was not stupid.  Full repeal is the only way out of this mess.

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2013, 04:29:32 PM »
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2013, 02:12:52 AM »
OBumbler to Iran: If you like your reactor you can keep it. If you like your enriched uranium you can keep it.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2013, 08:03:12 AM »
OBumbler to Iran: If you like your reactor you can keep it. If you like your enriched uranium you can keep it.

That's likely going to be one of his promises kept though Mendy. Prolly not the best example

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2013, 04:06:31 PM »

If you like your reactor you can keep it. If you like your enriched uranium you can keep it.




You just have to open the reactor and enrich the uranium to find out how it will all work.
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2013, 09:14:04 PM »
OBumbler to Iran: If you like your reactor you can keep it. If you like your enriched uranium you can keep it.


There's a promise Obama can keep. He's desperate to work out a deal with Iran to make himself look good that he left out the jailed American citizens in the negotiations, including the Christian pastor. He doesn't want Iran to back out of a deal by asking for something in return more than a halt to the weapons grade nuclear program. Truth is Iran is playing everyone for fools. When they and N Korea, need to buy time, they ask for freebies in exchange for slowing down their nuclear ambitions. When they have the knowledge to take their nuke programs to the next step, they break the deal. I'd figure the governments of the world would have learned by now of their tactics.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2013, 07:08:16 PM »
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Iran outsmarted Obama and Kerry (big surprise)
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What Obama meant was that HE could keep HIS plan
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2013, 07:29:12 PM »





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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2013, 07:39:29 PM »


I can't seem to find any cars left with Obama stickers left on them.  Might become a rarity and worth some money.......Muzh?

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What Obama meant was that HE could keep HIS plan
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2013, 07:47:38 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2013, 07:50:04 PM »
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Obama care, they own it
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2013, 07:59:29 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2013, 08:32:23 PM »
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2013, 08:35:08 PM »
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2013, 10:39:05 AM »
Isn't this wonderful?

Another reason why this stupid law really should not be a law. If they're incapable of regulating in what they're doing, they have no business trying to decide what is good or bad for anyone.

I don't know what's worst, having our government provide *free medical* coverage for these Russian spies/Diplomats for well over 9 years, or the Soviet mentality of government reliant attitude. Even if it is a foreign government they're spying on.


"...Justice Department prosecutors last week filed charges against what they say is a group of current and former Russian diplomats who allegedly ran a nine-year scheme that bilked $1.5 million from Medicaid, the U.S. health benefits program for the poor...."


http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/09/first-on-cnn-sources-diplomatic-fraud-ring-also-spied/
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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2013, 01:06:48 PM »
Remember Jon Lovitz?
 Maybe he should do a SNL spoof --
'Hey you have 8 health care plans... 10 plans? Fine.. Six doctors? OK Hey keep 'em yeah that's the ticket
'
Actually, Jon's true feelings...


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Re: "You can keep your plan" but...
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2014, 08:02:26 PM »
Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed that 2.5 million Americans leaving the workforce was a good thing, because they would no longer be “trapped in a job.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/02/05/white-house-its-a-good-thing-that-obamacare-will-drive-2-5-million-americans-out-of-the-workforce/?partner=yahootix
 
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OBAMACARE TURNING CANCER PATIENTS AWAY
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OBAMACARE TURNING CANCER PATIENTS AWAY

The [size=inherit]Los Angeles[/size][/color][/size] [size=inherit]Times[/size]
[/color]reports that once Obamacare customers navigate the confusing websites and pay the (often higher) premiums, they face a new problem: many doctors do not accept Obamacare insurance policies. It tells the story of a cancer patient who was turned away at the oncologist's office, and was only seen by a doctor once state regulators came to her rescue. Her story is not alone: millions will face the same problem.[/size]There are two reasons patients will be turned away: one that President Barack Obama hid, and one that he lied about. The first is that there is a shortage of doctors. There simply are not enough doctors (or nurses) to see a population of patients that grows bigger, suddenly, by some 30 million people (in theory). [/size][/color]The second reason: insurance companies have to cut certain doctors and hospitals out of their plans in order to keep prices within a reasonable range while still covering all the things the law requires. So you can't necessarily "keep your doctor."[/color]The [size=inherit]LA Times[/size][/font][/color][/size]' story about a cancer patient is particularly ironic, considering that Obama used cancer as a prop to sell the legislation--both to tout the law's coverage for pre-existing conditions, and to tell [/color]misleading stories about how his own mother was abandoned by insurance companies when she was being treated for cancer.
[/color][/color]As the [size=inherit]Washington Examiner [/size][/font][/color][/size]and Breitbart News [/color]reported last December, as many as 70% of California doctors will not participate in Obamacare.
[/color][/color]That is a reality many patients are discovering as they lose insurance policies they once enjoyed and discover that the doctors in their new Covered California policies are little more than "phantom networks." They are victims of Obamacare's cost controls--and they are finding out "what's in it."
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/05/California-Obamacare-Turning-Cancer-Patients-Away[/font][/color][/font][/font]
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seriously the auto formatting at this site is horrible
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2014, 08:18:42 PM »
The auto formatting here at the site is terrible. Isn't there a fix
or a patch or something to repair it?
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There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
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