English Speaking FSUW Versus Non-English Speaking FSUW

[ronin308]

Killer B, just to clear up, I'm not Ron in 308.

I chose ronin because my profession is very close to the ronin from feudal Japan.  I haven't worked for anyone but since 1998.  

308 is because I need to distinguish myself from the others and 308 is the caliber of my favorite weapon.  (I'm sure that might have shocked a few on here who thought  I was more of a liberal).

BTW Travolta's 707 is still in Quantas colors.  He recently flew it into San Francisco International airport on a goodwill flight with a 747 to celebrate the inagural flight from SFO to OZ.

[PeeWee]

I thought Peewee might have some stick time.  While I am not a commercial pilot I do have a license.  Work does involve the aviation industry among many things.
Several of my friends are commercial pilots as well.  They also have "problems" due to 9-11.
Pay and respect is dirt unless you're  either a major cargo pilot or work for a decent size carrier.

While pilots have some strict currency requirements and I respect many of them as individuals, the job itself doesn't require an intellectual genius and it's getting easier with the efis and other systems that now permeate the industry.

Just today I was looking at the cockpit layout of the A380. Best I can describe it to you is that the pilots sit facing what looks a lot like lap top computers or a fancy video arcade game set up. There is a joy stick to the right like one would use for a flight sim game.

Peewee

[Killer-B]

Yeah, looks IDENTICAL to a Greyhound Bus!!
  JK! (kinda)

Ok will get off aviation. this is a RW board, no? LOL

(Notice the call sign on JT's tail....)

[Bruno]

9. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.
16. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
20. Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

Can maybe use these 3 rules for the dating process of RW... 

[PeeWee]

Can maybe use these 3 rules for the dating process of RW...¦nbsp;

I can see a number of those flying rules that might apply to the pursuit of FSU women. Most rules are bases on common sense, right? Remember the one about flying up side down...have hairy crack up? Out of respect for the women and children I won't repeat it all.

I was looking at the photo of the Charlies Angels that was posted on the image gallery. My friend's son and taken a trip to Moscow, alone. She, of course, was worried for the lad's saftey and commented how unsafe Moscow is. I sent here the photo of Charlie's Angels with note telling her that these were the only dangerous things to watch out for in Moscow.

I agree that we must each have his approach to this English or no English question. In my mind the non English woman just seems to add more challenge to a relationship that already has enough challenges already built into it.

One more story about Russian/English confusion. I recently had lunch with two Aeroflot 777 captains ( well this would have been before Aeroflot stopped flying the 777). One of the guys self taught himself English. I asked him how he was doing with understanding English with relationship to the English that is spoken by the Air Traffic Contollers in the various countries that he flying in and out of. He told me, "I have no problem understanding the Chinaman, the German, or the Englishman. It's you goddamned American's that I can't understand."

What's the point? The point is that here is a man who holds the lives of about 300 people in his hands while trying to follow instructions of some fast talking American ATC guy while at the time all we are trying to do is accomplish a one on one conversations with a RW who hardly speaks English and we are not doing a very good job of it at that.

Peewee

[BC]

PeeWee

Heard one long ago.. "On the trans-atlantic route if your navigation system dies it's no huge problem - just follow the contrails"

..might also apply to this venture - contrails being the experience of others that have been and done.

[PeeWee]

PeeWee

Heard one long ago.. "On the trans-atlantic route if your navigation system dies it's no huge problem - just follow the contrails"

..might also apply to this venture - contrails being the experience of others that have been and done.

I suppose that it is correct proceedure to follow the contrails of those who are flying high, level, and straight. Not so if you so choose to follow the guy who is clearly headed earthward. Good advices.

So what we have learned is to speak clearly in English and to follow those who have showen their success at flying staight and level ending in a complete and safe landing.

Peewee

[KenC]

I think where I (and others) make our mistake is in assuming that everyone will want to take the path most conducive to success.  Others get hung up on the idea that we think our way is "right" and their's is "wrong", but that is not the case.  I know that it pains me to see guys "making mistakes" that will make prove out to make their task more difficult than necessary.  Finding, courting and marrying a RW is difficult enough without making things even more difficult than necessary.

By example, you can drive from L.A. to NY via Texas, Michigan and Florida, but there really are better routes to take.
KenC

[BC]

CA to NY... hmm  Dropping by Ken's house for a chat then on to southern Texas to visit jb.. not that far out of the way as far as productivity goes..

[Admin]

CA to NY... hmm  Dropping by Ken's house for a chat then on to southern Texas to visit jb.. not that far out of the way as far as productivity goes..

Don't forget to stop by Denver while you're in the area!!

Cheers!

- Dan

[KenC]

Don't forget to stop by Denver while you're in the area!!

Cheers!

- Dan

Of course Dan!  Denver is right on the way to Michigan from Texas.  And I'll stop in to see Jet in FL after that.  Get ready Clyde and Deknack, cause I am sure Maryland can be had too.
KenC

[Son of Clyde]

KenC, there are two international airports not far from me.
BWI is 20 minutes away and Dulles about an hour away. So there is no reason not to contact DaKnack or me if you are passing through. I would not want to take my car, it is probably a 72 hour drive from the left coast.

[Killer-B]

THE RWD WORLD TOUR - 2006
     Coming to YOUR town!!

[Turboguy]

I am glad you would not go from NY to LA via Texas.   I did it one time (Well from Pittsburgh which is on a direct line)  so there is an idiot somewhere who would.  I wanted to avoid the mountians in Colorado.  I hit an ice storm in Texas and from before Dallas to almost El Paso I was on roads that were a sheet of ice.  In Flagstaf I hit two foot of snow and when I got to California, the roads were closed for snow.   On top of all the bad weather I was doing it without stopping for sleep.  It could not have been worse going throgh the mountains in Colorado.   

Heck with the Airports Clyde.  Drive it.  it is a lot of fun.  I have done it a couple of Dozen times using every route there is.

[Son of Clyde]

Turbo,
Great idea for my family this summer. I think a USA tour would be perfect for them.

[Jet]

I think a USA tour would be perfect for them.

I can here it now....
Мы там ещё? 

[KenC]

Turbo,
Great idea for my family this summer. I think a USA tour would be perfect for them.

When Lena and I moved to California from Michigan, we drove here.  It was a great trip (one way).  It gave me a chance to show a big chunk of America to Lena.  It changed her perspective of our country a lot.  You couldn't get her to move to NB with a gun now.   An over night stay in Vail was sweet.  Even though it was summer, it is quite a place.  Utah was amazing too.  The one thing she realized was that there is still a lot of desolate areas left in this country.

I would think your family would love a car trip to the Smokey Mountains, Clyde.  It is a very beautiful area.
KenC

[PeeWee]

When Lena and I moved to California from Michigan, we drove here.  It was a great trip (one way).  It gave me a chance to show a big chunk of America to Lena.  It changed her perspective of our country a lot.  You couldn't get her to move to NB with a gun now.   An over night stay in Vail was sweet.  Even though it was summer, it is quite a place.  Utah was amazing too.  The one thing she realized was that there is still a lot of desolate areas left in this country.

I would think your family would love a car trip to the Smokey Mountains, Clyde.  It is a very beautiful area.
KenC

Every part of the US and Canada is so different. For some reason I like to look at maps so I can see where places are. That would mean that I have an interest in geography I suppose. Many of you have flown over Canada. It amazes me how desolate Canada is. The huge lakes and not one soul in site. I suspose it would be hard to spot someone from 35,000 feet but one would think one would at least see a boat or its wake. So much of the US is that way. I like flying over Nevada. It looks the same as Canada but its brown instead of white. And its still just as desolate.

I hate to drive anywhere. It takes too long. I don't like to travel by train and a cruise would kill me from boredom I think. I need to get from point A to point B as fast as possible. Good someone invented the airplane.

Peewee

[Killer-B]

Great idea for my family this summer. I think a USA tour would be perfect for them.

SoC - Just the mere mention of this, brings back hilarious memories of the movie "Vacation" with Chevy Chase....

Sure it's kinda dated now, but still hilarious - and spot on IMHO....

Ever seen it?  If not, rent it before packing up with the family and heading cross country!! :p

Gosh - Grandma on the car roof - and poor Rover tied to the bumper - Too funny!!

(and also my 1st glimpse (ever) of Ms. Brinkley!!)

[Markus]

Well, since we are off topic, realizing off-topic subjects are sometimes more interesting than the title subject, I'll chime in and add some thoughts that mix both subjects. Of course, the bottom line is fact versus opinion. It's the opinion part that's fun. What's good about boards is that different opinions are usually interesting. But comments that are absolutes warrant a challenge.

I'll start by clarifying that I asked jb to clarify the pronoun "he" in trying to convey his earlier opinion about my introductory story.  Jb stated his response to my request, clinging to his pronoun without being specific.  Let's consider what jB stated.

Jb's Quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But the truth is; he just doesn't know what he's getting into.  He can speculate as much as he wants, but he still can't have an in-depth conversation with a woman with whom he speaks no common language.

I'd only say to the newbies reading this, be very careful, this is not an easy task.  Ripe plumbs do not usually just fall into your hands, neither do good women.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, jb is the guy with the "clue bat." He's ready to say what it takes to get through to the person whom the subject is about. Jb is an example of a man interested in being correct. He knows my short history and is trying to be careful in his words. But, where is his clue bat here? He chooses to be vague and hide behind the pronoun "he." I asked him to clarify what he wanted to say and he, like glue, clung to the pronoun "he." The subject of the thread is exactly what I have experinced. jb speculates with his opinion and states as fact that I am specualting on what I'm actually experiencing everyday. jb then gives a warning to newbies. Either Jb, jb, jB, or JB didn't read the introductory thoughts or he is confused. My actual experience is not speculation;  I'm living what I said above. So, the newbies can take jb's thoughts into perspective. Take a clue bat from the man who give's the "clue bat."

jb then takes a shot at someone who stated an opinion just like he does. Of course, jb's response is:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Where did this FACT come from?  Please site the source, just to help us poor dumb a-holes out.  Because it sure isn't my experience in any relationship, either working, friendship, romantic, or otherwise, I've ever had.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's always fact unless jb disagrees with it.

Now, to jb's transportation experience. Then again, could it be only opinion???????????

jb states the following:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I hate to be continually argumentative, but I reckon neither of you know much about what it takes, skill-wise and proficiency-wise to fly a commercial airliner carrying passengers these days compared to a bus driver.  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well,I think jb does want to be arumentative. He wants to agrue so he feels good about applying the "clue bat." So, based upon his statement above. Does jb realize what it takes to be a Bus Driver? His out it the word "reckon", a southern slang which I like very much. It's similiar and older than fixin. But, there are stops signs, yield signs, speed limit signs, etc., and the fact that there are people on board whom expect a safe ride? Bus driving is not easy.

But, then again, jb could probably verify that ADF and VOR navigation on an aircraft don't have the capabilty to navigate to at lat/long unless the radial off the VOR is known. He also probably understands how Required Naviagation Performance (RNP) and Area Navigation (RNAV) capability can be used to navigate to a long/long without the dependence of ground based nav aids. He knows what systems compose long-range naviation and he knows that long-range naviation is necessary to meet RNP in the relevant airspace. He can advise what RNP levels are applied to RNAV SIDS, RNAV STARS, and RNAV Approaches. He can explain what the heck RNP means. Knowing jb, he probabaly knows RNP refers to airspace containment. He also knows how to apply the RNP requirements to aircraft. He is aware of Inertial Reference Systems that are composed of accelerometers and gyros. He knows that accelerometers calcuate position of the aircarft based upon speed differences and that if the gyro didn't support the accelerometers, the whole Interial Reference System would be upside down after flying to a Southern Country. I would mention GPS but that's the king of aircraft navigation. He also knows the standard volume that a VOR and an NDB can reach, and he knows the minimum equipment that an aircraft needs to navigate on the current jet airways.  He knows how the RNP levels change from flying enroute RNAV to Terminal RNAV to RNAV Approaches. Most of all, he can explain how the FAA has implemented the National Airspace Redesign program. A byproduct of that program is the High Altitude Redesign which incorporates the Navigation Reference System, which is available to today for all aircraft that have long range navigation systems. But, most of all, he can explain the naming convention of an NRS point.

I'm not picking on jb, but I have a difficult time sitting in silence with his extreme thoughts to newbies. jb can and has provided some good advice on many subjects. Next time I go to SVO, I'll get in the left line per jb.

For traveling, I took my wife to Lihue, Hawaii and that was a blast. Honolulu has too much traffic. AAdantage miles work good and I paid for it all with the miles from my credit card...3 years of work. There are some good places to visit here in the U.S. without going to other countries. I would care to see the suggestions.

Mark

[Killer-B]

All I'll say, is till I'm twin-engined... "VFR for me"

Peace-out

Killer (in the left lane LOL)

PS: Re: Double posts - Sure sure - I RECKON you're just trying to get your Post count up to "Hero" LOL -- (Hit "Modify" and delete it all - state "Duplicate Post")

[KenC]

OWW,
Just FYI, there is no heavy moderation on this forum, so don't count on a mod editing your double post.  May I suggest that you go back and edit the second one to "double post"?
KenC

[PeeWee]

So what Mark just said above is that the RNP is independent and can use severval sources of information for navigation reference. One more thing RNP is more critical for aircraft navigation on approach of an airport than for those aircraft departing an airport. RNP is used by Air Traffic Controllers Controllers to know the location of an airplane almost precisely. Because they can better tell where an airplane is they can then more closely place landing aircraft one behind another, which means that more airplanes can occupy less airspace. Aircraft routing is made easier for the controller and the pilot. Weather minimums become less critical as well.

I'm thiniking that Mark must be an Air Traffic Controller by trade. So how does all of this apply to us land bases geeks who want nothing more from life than to find and mate with the hottest Eastern European woman on the planet? I'd say the anology is that if we are more targeted in out search while at the same time better prepared with good and accurate knowledge about EUW then we stand a good chance of not only finding our destination and actually landing there without incurring a major mishap along the way. Good navigational aids and a box of condoms, lads, will lead us to our promised land.

Peewee

[Markus]

Well, I'm getting confused with two threads going. I think the double post has been deleted. I wonder, "there's that word wonder again," if I get credit for my double post? If I get to at least 20, would that look like I know what I'm writing about?

Kenc, thanks for the advice. I went back to amend my post but I think it was deleted. What I did learn is that I misspelled several words. Perhaps I should shorten my posts.

Peewee,

You are one of the few people I know who understands what RNP, as apposed to the official definition, really means. Your are correct in that the RNP levels decrease in the terminal area. But, an RNAV STAR, which has an average of RNP1 is different than an RNAV Approach. On an RNAV STAR, the ATC  person  will take control after the RNAV STAR and vector that aircraft to the approach, then  the ATC person in the tower will take over which normally clears the aircraft to an ILS approach. An RNAV approach is only available to aircraft with advanced nav ability because the RNP level is .3. There are RNAV approaches that go down to .1. So an RNAV STAR is different than an RNAV Approach (two separate pages in the Jepps)  When an RNAV approach is executed, the ATC person  just watches that flight on the screen. But, an Air Traffic Controller (ATC) is still responsible for separation of traffic. And no, I'm not an ATC person.

How does RNP/RNAV apply to the process of finding an FSUW? I'll stretch for the answer.

RNP:

R- Required research on this board is imperative.
N- Navigate on this board to learn form the experiences of others
P- Performance of others should be watched, but personal decision comes into play

R- Research this board again after doing the initial research
N- New ladies on agency sites are good to check out
A - And don't forget about the ladies who have not received much correspondence
V - Visit the lady as soon as possible!

Mark

[Killer-B]

Good Lord - this has been the strangest thread I've ever seen LOL - Somehow we've managed to mix English and Non-English speaking women in with ATC, Cessna's, .308's, JOHN TRAVOLTA (this is a FIRST!!) Greyhound buses - and my lust for Christie Brinkley 20 years ago

But while you all were debating the finer points of flying here.... I've been yakking with a gal that I just met from St. Pete.... WOW... Yes, and we talked for 2+ hours about (of all things) SHREK!!! LOL - Talk about stimulating stuff!! - It was actually quite interesting

Hey, a question for the RW (ladies) on here.... This gal had "size requirements" listed on her profile???? First I'd ever seen this (it's a "local" all Russian dating site in Moscow) - So maybe that's why it's more "personal" - But do you think - Or should I say, is it "proper" for a RW to place her "size" requirements up front in her advert??

(I know you guys are dieing to know - She stipulated 15-19cm) LOL It's actually a "checkbox" on the female questionnaire (?) Shrug...

Other than that, she was very straight-laced... very prim and proper... So towards the end of our conversation, I just had to ask about this! - and "why?" ---- Her reply? Men ask for 90x60x90 - so why can't we??

Smart girl - What could I say!? LOL

For the record, she doesn't speak English very well - but we had a blast tonight just the same - Soooooo - To each his/her own really (I think) ....

Rotate!

Cheers,

KB