Don't trust DHL workers

Okay, I'm being sarcastic. I guess the thief would think $100 is "big money." Enough of a payoff to risk his job? DHL would fire him if they caught him.

I sent the documents (copy of K-1 visa, Affadavit of Support, financial documents, etc.) to my fiancee. Also, in the middle of the 50+ pages, I placed an envelope containing her birthday card and in the card a $100 bill. So when we talked on the phone, she said she received everything okay, but no $100.

  This means that someone opened the DHL package, went through all the documents, found the birthday greeting, opened the envelope, removed the card and took out the $100 bill. (I can't entirely eliminate the possibility that they opened it at the private postal store here in Virginia, and not in Russia.)

  What kind of a creep would ruin a girl's birthday?

  Ohhhh...I wish I could...  

  Come to think of it, this moron probably went out and bought a super-size bottle of vodka, so why should I worry about payback, he is paying himself back. No wonder Russian men die in their 50's - they can't live with their conscience.

[Bruno]

Faibro, why do you think that DHL is not honest... each pack send in Russia is control by russian custom... and send money is not allow...

You have a lot of change that tax police have not contact your lady... in fact, each time that you send money in Russia... cash, western union, wire banking, of other... the woman need to go in the tax office and make a declaration and pay some tax...

If they don't follow these rule, and a lot don't follow, they can have problem...

Learn the rule before make something ... not only the rule of your own country but these where you send the pack...

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno. Sorry about this, but tax office for western Union or bank deposit not quite true. I have had men sending money for years no one has told me they have bean taxed by the tax police.

On customs and cash will the number one problem is with all over night services it ends when it hits Russia. So if the customs don't get it the service in Russia are not the service you started out with. Theirs a good chance that the local service will take the money.

 

You also have the same problem in the Good U.S.A. sometimes ?

 

[Bruno]

About tax on money send in FSU

For Ukraine :

"Ukrainian law prohibits businesses and agencys from using Western Union payments. This law's just there to try and stop businesses from tax evasion and money laundering. It exists but no one cares. When you obtain money from Western Union you must write on the form that the transaction has nothing to do with business and/or investment activity."

( If Igor was not away from these forum, he can maybe confirm this or correct it )

For Bielorussia :

"Dont to send a lot of money, because first of all, they have to pay taxes on what you send them through Western Union or through a bank. Do you know about the government's tax rules in Belarus? When you send $100, she has to go to the tax office and pay the Belarusian government 15% to 25% of what she has received. It depends how often you send money and the amount that you sent. The most unpleasant thing that you may never fortunately experience is how often the government will ask your girlfriend or fiancé to come and pay all of the tax money that she owes, because every month the rules change and it's a very big mess in the tax office."

For Russia :

"WESTERN UNION : Western Union has over 500 units in former Soviet Republics.  To send money by Western Union, a passport is needed, as well as a receipt from a currency exchange office or customs declaration indicating the amount of foreign currency brought into the country.  The amount to be transferred, plus a commission should be paid to the cashier.   Commissions range from $15 to send $50 or less, to $108 for transfers of $2000. According to legislation of the Russian Federation, the maximum amount one individual can transfer is limited to $2000."

Each country of FSU have it's own rule ( law )... but generaly, they consider all money receive from outside FSU like personal income... and the ladies need pay tax on these income... several people don't know the law and the rest try to evade it... it is not because people don't follow of know law that she don't exist...

And not only FSU work like this... in Belgium, when i receive money by bank of Western Union from a foreign country, and when the amount is more of 250 euro, i need to put it in my fiscal declaration like income and pay tax... maybe US too have some laws like this...

In the case of faibro, There are three ways to transfer money from US to Russia:

• Ask a trusted person who travels to Russia to carry your US dollar bills. [/*]
  Don't forget to declare currency on the Russian border and keep all customs declarations with you. This will help you avoid problems, should you later take cash out of Russia.
  
  
  
• Use bank transfer, mail a cheque, etc. In my experience, this is expensive, takes longer and is cumbersome for the recipient in Russia. Also, note that the Russian banking system has been unstable in times. [/*]
  
  
  
• (Mailing cash by insured letters may no always work. In the beginning of 2002, I had one returned.) [/*]
  Mail US dollar bills to Russia by insured letter, with honest description of content. You write, for instance, "Cash USD 700" on the Customs Declaration / Toll douane label and send the letter insured for the equivalent amount. Please be aware that the post regulations prohibit mailing cash to Russia, but in practice it works. Take my advice entirely at your own risk!
  You send cash by insured letter not because you would get the value back if the letter is lost (you most likely won't, due to your violation of the post regulations). The real purpose of using insured letter is to make sure it is handed to the right addressee. The Russian post office will send a notice to the addressee and hold your letter until the recipient comes in person, with his/her passport. It takes about 10 days for an insured letter to reach St. Petersburg. I used it many times in Belgium.
  

Cheques (checks)? In Russia? If you walk into a Russian bank and start talking about checks, you will only get a smile (to cover their puzzlement).

In Belgium, you have to pay tax, up-front, on any money you receive from overseas? What do you get in return? I know, another socialist bureaucrat to dream up more ways to levy taxes!

In US, I think first $10,000 is exempt from gift-tax. After Hillary is elected in 2008, we will be taxed on that, also she will implant monitors on everyone and tax the air we breathe.

[Bruno]

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Cheques (checks)? In Russia? If you walk into a Russian bank and start talking about checks, you will only get a smile (to cover their puzzlement).
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Yes, it is working.... but the expense are around 15$ for one check, the procesing time, around one week, and you need to have a russian account


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In Belgium, you have to pay tax, up-front, on any money you receive from overseas? What do you get in return? I know, another socialist bureaucrat to dream up more ways to levy taxes!
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Only for amount up 250$... before the 09/11, it was 1000$... it was prove that group like al-quada use several little transfer via anonyme wire banking for transfer money from one place to other...

I think that 10.000$ is not more something i consider like a gift... maybe for people with a lot of money and very rich... it can be money from mafia ,from terrorist, from corruption,...  

Without money, the bad guys connot more make something... if you wish a other 09/11 clain about your freedom... me, i prefert pay a little for my security...


And don't forget, Europa is Socialist-Capitalist country... for the social side, a lot of money is need and our tax are very high in comparaison to US... our national sport is to elude the tax

You only pay tax on the first $250? I can't buy the logic, that it's to combat the threat of terrorists. It seems to my cynical mind to be a good rationale, a way of duping the public: the bureaucrats claim they are saving the world, but they are actually squeezing the last drop of tax-blood out of their constituents.  

The $10,000 "free of tax" thing in the US is actually used mostly by grandparents and older relatives, as a means to give their descendants gifts, while they are still alive to seem them enjoy it. A rich elder can give his favorite niece or grandson up to $10000 per year without having to worry about taxes on the transfer. There's nothing sinister about it.

I have a problem with paying an infinite amount of $$$ for taxes to "protect" me. Instead of paying billions of Euros and Dollars to hire millions of security guards and metal-detectors to install at every courthouse, every supermarket, every theatre, every water facility, every blah,blah, blah.... isn't it much easier and more logical to simply bomb the schit out of the terrorists and kill them?

Just because of one Islamo-facist shtbag named Richard Reid (the shoe bomber) a million people on airplanes every day have to remove their shoes when they go to the airport. Just because of a few terrorists, a flight on any airplane, from any city, in any country in the world turns into a multi-day ordeal for millions of innocent people. Why not just eliminate the cause of the problem.    

This is like the government telling me, after they know of a thief in the neighborhood, that everyone in the neighborhood should buy a burglar alarm, and a dog, and hide in their houses at night, instead of just catching the thief.

[Bruno]

Faibro, It seem that we begin to be off topic... i go reply short...

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isn't it much easier and more logical to simply bomb the schit out of the terrorists and kill them?
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How your bomb go choice the terrorist hidden between the 1000 of innocent ? there is terrorist hidden in London, Brussels, New-York, Berlin, ... maybe we can bomb these city too... fight terrorist is not so easy like fight a other army... Terrorist like mafia need money for work... without money, no terrorist... kill innocent is the work of terrorist, don't allow to become terrorist ourself by bombing all is moving.


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This is like the government telling me, after they know of a thief in the neighborhood, that everyone in the neighborhood should buy a burglar alarm, and a dog, and hide in their houses at night, instead of just catching the thief.
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Need to find the thief first... for find it, more control are needed... camera are not possible because of private life... more police are not possible because they are pay by the tax and people will not pay more tax... etc ... Usually, simple solution are not possible. Usually, i don't like politic man but i don't wish have so job, same for all gold of the world... it is not a easy job.

Of course I don't condone killing innocent people.

I don't think the terrorist problem will be solved by ignoring it, hoping it will go away, hiding from it, or trying to negotiate with it.

After the "negotiations" in Kosovo, the islamo-facists have now dynamited every single Christian church in Kosovo. Russian concessions to the wannabe-Hitler in Chechnya have encouraged him to demand independence for Dagastan, Ingusetia, etc. and have allowed freedom of movement for terrorists to slaughter schoolfuls of innocent Russian children, bomb theatres and apartment buildings.

These people are evil. They want to kill you. You can survive if you kill them first.  

If the same bomb that kills a terrorist (the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist) also kills an Al-Jazeera hatemonger "reporter", or a crazed mullah, who has encouraged the terrorist to murder the small children of infidels, I have no problem with that.

Doesn't Europe learn anything from history?

[Bruno]

My God, i hope that you will never become President of USA... you will be perfect for a new world war...

About know history in Europa, we know it and not only from our own little country... and we learn from the past...

Because it is a forum over russia, let see a little the problem in Tchechennie... now, i agree, we have tchenchen terrorist... but have you think why ? A lot of year ago, russia have control all in Tchenchenie, only for protect the petrol... they have murder woman, child, old people, ... and now, after so much year, tchechen have nothing too loose... they will only her own country...

See what happen with Israel and Palestin... a lot of year of fight... but now, we begin see the result of negociation... we send our help for build a strong palestinian police who can arrest and stop some terrorist coming from other country...

By bomb a country, you fabric more terrorist... use the money for make a democratic country where people have some right and the terrorist go dissappear.

And don't forget, the partisan in Europa during the second WW was named terrorist by the German !!! It is because we kill of use bomb that we have terrorist... I don't agree with terrorist but i don't know what i go make when some stranger come in my country, kill my wife, child, break my house,... maybe i can become a terrorist too... we call this vengeance !!!

But i think that again, we are far from your first post Faibro... where you say : Don't trust DHL workers... why do you think that the DHL workers have take your 100$... and why don't you have control the rule of DHL for russia... send money is prohibith except if you use a "DHL Waybill"... if you don't follow the rule, don't be surprise to have problem... it can be lucky but it is at your own risk...

My God, i hope that you will never become President of USA... you will be perfect for a new world war...

If you were selected by the Eurocrats to be New World Leader, you would continue to take your prozac, do nothing to oppose the terrorists, and let them continue to enslave and slaughter the infidels...

And don't forget, the partisan in Europa during the second WW was named terrorist by the German !!!

And not all the media labels the Chechen terrorists "freedom fighters."  I don't recall any "partisans" in France, Poland or Serbia attaching suicide bombs to themselves, and then blowing up other partisans.

It is because we kill of use bomb that we have terrorist

In the 1980's, in the Philippines, the moslem terrorists bombed weddings and rolled grenades down the aisles of packed theatres on Saturday night. This was not because the "freedom fighters" had been previously attacked, this was long before the army moved in. This was because the moslem terrorists disapprove of theatres and films, and have a hatred of Christian weddings.    

About know history in Europa, we know it and not only from our own little country... and we learn from the past...

Nothing useful you learned. If US army was not in Europe now, you would be going to mosque 5 times a day. If US army was not in Europe 60 years ago, you would be attending Hitler-church or singing the praises of Father Stalin.

See what happen with Israel and Palestin... a lot of year of fight... but now, we begin see the result of negociation...

This is not the result of negotiation. It is because Isreal has stood steadfast, and because the pscyhotic, towel-headed, billionaire-dictator of the Palestininans finally croaked.

Because it is a forum over russia, let see a little the problem in Tchechennie... now, i agree, we have tchenchen terrorist... but have you think why ? A lot of year ago, russia have control all in Tchenchenie, only for protect the petrol... they have murder woman, child, old people, ... and now, after so much year, tchechen have nothing too loose... they will only her own country...

Where do get this stuff? From your left-wing newspapers or your left-wing television "news"?
 
You are like the liberals in the US who blame Russia for its terrorism problem. "If Russia had been nicer to the terrorists, they would have no problem now, so it's their own fault." So the media justifies, they actually rationalize the slaughter of children, bombings and mass-murders in Moscow, because Chechnya was not wrapped up in a big bow with pretty paper and given away to the terrorists as a present.

We saw what happened 10 years ago when Russia gave the Chechen terrorists what they wanted...they spread the terror into the next province, Dagustan, or whatever it is. They already have total control of all tax money, and the economy, concessions by Russia, in the province. Now that they have this, they want "independence" (terrorist-control) for Dagustan, Ingusetia, etc., even Stavropol.

Why don't we split up Belgium, too? The part that speaks French should be part of France, or at least independent. And the Spanish-speaking part of California can become Mexico's province.

Here's an article from the source:

http://www.kp.ru/daily/23448/36209/

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Сбылась мечта Басаева?

Since you already know everything in the entire world, it will be easy for you to translate. Oh I forgot, you already are expert at Russian language.

But i think that again, we are far from your first post

I'm still waiting for you to explain how you were able to cash a check in a Russian bank.

First you slam me for being angry about the DHL, then you say I should trust the terrorists. Totally bizarre.

Yes, I know it's all my fault that I was so naive as to trust workers in FSU not to steal. It's part of my trusting nature, and I'm happy to be that way. I'm happy I'm not 11 years old, too, and also I'm happy that I'm not taking Clonopin.
 
You are the kind of person who has to get the last word in, so go ahead, I'm out of here.
 

[Bruno]

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I'm still waiting for you to explain how you were able to cash a check in a Russian bank.

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The Moscow chief territorial department of the Russian Federation Central Bank issued an explanation to the new regulations. It says: ?In accordance with the clause 877 of the Russian Federation Civil Code, a cheque is a security that contains an unconditioned instruction of a cheque holder to a bank to make payment of the sum mentioned in the cheque to this cheque holder. In accordance with the subpoint ?b¦ of the paragraph 4, clause 1 of the RF law # 3615-1 ?On currency regulation and currency control¦ of October 9, 1992, cheques are referred to securities. According to the subpoint ?a¦ of the first clause of the above mentioned law, passing of property and other rights connected with cheques is a currency transaction connected with capital flow. As it is said in the paragraph 2 of the clause 6 of the law, the transaction is conducted in an order fixed by the Central Bank. To execute currency transactions connected with capital flow, RF residents must get a permission (license) of the Bank of Russia... Some kinds of currency transaction require no license from the Bank of Russia. This is fixed in the item 1.1.20 of the Bank of Russia Statute of April 26, 1996, #39 ?On order of execution of some kinds of currency transactions, on accountability of some currency transactions¦. In accordance with the regulation, no license is required for ?accepting of cheques in foreign currency from non-residents...

"Traveller's cheques can be cashed at the commission of 2 or 3% (available only in major cities and far not at every bank). American Express is probably the most difficult to get money for. The cheques are usually paid in their original currency less the the commission. Otherwise one gets the equivalent in roubles at the current purchase exchange rate of the bank where he or she is cashing the cheque." http://www.sv-agency.udm.ru/sv/bank.htm

"American Express will permit cardholders to cash a certain (limited) number of personal checks for cash, and several of the credit card companies permit cash advances... There are not many places where you can cash travellers' checks, however, and most stores do not accept them..." http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/russ/abroad/moscow/money.shtml

"Travelers' Cheques is probably the most secure way of keeping your money: you are the only one who can cash the cheques and if lost they can be reissued - just write down the numbers beforehand and keep them separate from the cheques. The problem is that in Russia you can refund them only in banks, which are opened only from 9 until 17. The banks charge commission for refunding the cheques (about 2-3%) and for buying the cheques - usually 1%. The most widely accepted cheques in Russia are American Express and more rare - Thomas Cook. In the Practicalities sections of our city guides, we provided the addresses of banks, which accept AMEX, Visa, Thomas Cook and other cheques. Their commission rates are usually 2 to 3% for cashing. Please, note, that you cannot pay with travelers cheques in Russia, you can only withdraw money from them in banks. Also, the recent customs regulations make it necessary to declare the cheques when you enter Russia." http://www.waytorussia.net/Practicalities/Money.html


If you wish more, use your search engine...


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Nothing useful you learned. If US army was not in Europe now, you would be going to mosque 5 times a day.
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US Army was in Europe for her own interest, because of the cold war... now, they use these basis for make her attack... and without the basis in Turkey ( a muslim country ), you was not able to bomb Irak ...


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Where do get this stuff? From your left-wing newspapers or your left-wing television "news"?
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From russian and chechen refugiees who work with me :shock:... Young russian are refugiees because they don't wish fight with chechen and chechen are refugiees because they don't wish be killed...


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Why don't we split up Belgium, too? The part that speaks French should be part of France, or at least independent.
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But the Belgium is already split... we have a federal gouverment and a local gouverment for each regio : Dutch regio, French regio, German regio, and at last the capital regio have his own gouverment... The national gouverment take care of national interest, each local gouverment take care of his own citizen, and Brussels is a little special due to the host of European gouverment... And these system work very good... i think that US is a little the same with state and federal gouverment...


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Since you already know everything in the entire world, it will be easy for you to translate. Oh I forgot, you already are expert at Russian language.
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I have never say that i am a expert in Russian language... i have say that i know some words, that i can't read it ( i use a online translator )... for the news, i use the english version of the Pravda at http://english.pravda.ru/ ... and about know everything in the world, i have explain that i am good for search the information but i begin to be tired to prove all i write because i am a outsider, not from US or from Russia...



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First you slam me for being angry about the DHL, then you say I should trust the terrorists. Totally bizarre.
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I have only say that you go a little fast for say that DHL are thief and that people cannot trust them... i don't ask you to trust terrorists but not associate all muslim to the terrorists... terrorists in Irlande ( IRA ) are catholic, but nobody say that all catholic are terrorists... you make dangerous and xenophobe association...

What's with the red ink? You going to bust a gut?

I can't figure out if you're an 11-year-old boy who stopped taking his Ritalin, or the genius director of a billion -dollar corporation.

Since you don't know the difference between a real check and a Traveler's check, and you spend all day on a small forum, I guess your empire must run by itself...

Thanks to the US Army, the US Marines, the US Navy and the US Air Force, 60 million Afghasi's and Iraqi's now enjoy freedom.

  The Eurocrats would wish we were still "negotiating," while control was in the hands of the psycho-Mullahs, and the people were still slaves.

  Meanwhile, Libya has stopped its terrorist activities (because they are afraid of the US Army), Saudi Arabia gave the right to vote to half of its subjects, the Iranian people are ready to topple the Mullahs, Pakistan is really trying to stop the terrorists in Kashmir, the Palestinians are improving, the Lebanese have all joined together to protest the Syrian invasion, and even Sudan, where the terrorists have slaughtered a million blacks, has decided to pay lip service to trying to end its government-directed genocide.

These things happened because the US got tired of 20 years of trying to negotiate through a corrupt United Nations.

  In other words, the world is becoming a better place. So why are you so depressed and upset about this?  

  What does France do when one of it's former African colonies has a revolution? Do they negotiate? While they lecture the US on talking and peaceful resolutions, they send in their French army, to an independent country, when there is a problem.  

   I'm not xenophobic. If you want to see a racist, look in a mirror. 99% of the terrorist activity is Islamic in nature. You have to be unconscious not to know that.

   I don't recall any suicide (homicide) bombers in the IRA. I don't see them murdering their own people at the rate of 10-100 every day.  

  So long, have a nice life. I need to go to the basketball game. I suppose you have some derogatory comment about that, too.

[Admin]

The politics of this thread are off-topic and becoming accusational/confrontational.

Let's rein it in and stay on topic please.

- Dan

The politics of this thread are off-topic and becoming accusational/confrontational.

Let's rein it in and stay on topic please.

- Dan

Gladly

[Bruno]

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Since you don't know the difference between a real check and a Traveler's check, and you spend all day on a small forum, I guess your empire must run by itself...
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If AMEX cheque, Visa cheque, Traveler's cheque, Thomas Cook cheque, Euro cheque... are not  real check, explain me what are real cheque... you question was about "cash a check in Russia" without more information...

PS: i hope that you like blue... else say me what color you like, it will be more easy...