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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1150 on: January 14, 2015, 08:43:27 AM »
Medvedev?
Is he breaking away from Putin, or showing another side of Putin?

'... Russia will not cut itself off from the world because any return to the past would be a "monstrous mistake", Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Wednesday...'
short article:
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-not-cut-itself-off-world-medvedev-095901269--sector.html


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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1151 on: January 16, 2015, 01:45:07 AM »
There are several groups in the government and each has an opposing agenda. Medvedev is one of the moderates. Right now he is under a lot of pressure and I am not sure how long he will last. If forced out, that will not be a good sign.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1152 on: January 17, 2015, 09:21:45 AM »
On the impact of the propaganda war...

In a publication called "Russia Direct" a recent issue discussed the fallout of Russian-American relations. Some interesting notes:

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According to a November poll by the Public Opinion Foundation, the number of Russian citizens who positively relate to the U.S. has reached a historic low, comprising 11 percent. Another 46 percent perceive the U.S. neutrally while 37 percent relate negatively to America.

Russia Direct requires a subscription (free) to read, and it is quite in-depth. It attempts to soften the rhetoric somewhat, however it is a publication owned and published by the Russian government and thus will always take the Russian view of a disagreement. An example of this is their reporting of "unifying" Crimea as opposed to "annexation" language.

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The majority of them (78 percent) are convinced that the U.S. today “most likely plays a negative role” in the world, while only seven percent consider it to be “most likely a positive role.”

It gives hope that, according to the opinion of 62 percent of Russians, good relations between the U.S. and Russia are necessary in equal measure for both countries.

One takeaway: as regards Ukraine, most Russians do not view this as a conflict between Russia and Ukraine, rather as a conflict between Russia and the West.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1153 on: January 17, 2015, 09:37:14 AM »
There are several groups in the government and each has an opposing agenda. Medvedev is one of the moderates. Right now he is under a lot of pressure and I am not sure how long he will last. If forced out, that will not be a good sign.

Correct me if I am wrong but Putin gave Medvedev an audition how he would react if he were his successor and Medvedev failed the interview because instead of covering up for Putin like Putin did for Sobchak and Yeltsin, Medvedev acted like a decent human being.  Fact or fiction?

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1154 on: January 17, 2015, 11:20:34 AM »
There are several groups in the government and each has an opposing agenda. Medvedev is one of the moderates. Right now he is under a lot of pressure and I am not sure how long he will last. If forced out, that will not be a good sign.

So what are the dynamics IYHO between Medvedev and Putin in layman's terms an American can grasp? Wasn't Medvedev Putin's stooge to hold the presidency until Putin could manipulate the Duma and constitution and return to the "throne"? Would that make Medvedev complicit in the evil doers deeds?

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1155 on: January 17, 2015, 12:01:04 PM »
Fact, to a point.

Had events in the Middle East not changed, Libya and Egypt for example, Medvedev would still be president. Putin had worried of another Orange or Rose or Velvet revolution coming closer to home, but especially the outcome of events in Tripoli really made him nervous.

In mid August (2011) the wife and I were in the centre of Moscow. She was in a hair salon and I had gone across the street to a McDonald's for an iced tea. Later in the day I was scheduled to attend a banquet at which Mr. Gorbachev and other leaders were to announce the formation of the coming Medvedev campaign. Medvedev at that point had significant support from business and other leaders, especially against the backdrop of Medvedev's plans to diversify the economy and in particular the IT high tech and banking sectors.

I received an urgent call that Medvedev had been summoned to join Putin on a fishing vacation on the Volga river down in the Astrakhan region. Although none of us may ever know the exact extent of their private conversations, I believe that it was on that outing that Putin let Medvedev know of changing plans--or at least the possibility that the plan might change.





This was not the only time the two have gone fishing, a sport that Putin enjoys, and as usual Mr. Putin always catches the largest fish. Medvedev fishes for the cameras, then takes up a camera himself as he is an avid nature photographer (and a very good one, at that.)

It had been their understanding that Medvedev would likely continue, but that the decision would be reevaluated prior to the next election cycle. After that event, one could see that although reelection plans continued for a short time, the sizzle seemed to be missing. In hindsight, the reelection lights were still on, but nobody was home, so to speak. In September Putin announced plans to retake the position.

In November of that same year, Mr. Putin attended a martial arts show and when introduced, was embarrassed by booing from the mainly young audience. That took him off guard, and reinforced his fears of what might happen were not a very firm hand on the wheel. In the prior year (2010) Russia was marked by massive street protests by the opposition, and especially unsettling to Putin was the December 2010 protests by young nationalists just steps from the Kremlin. Those are his voters, and he was clearly shaken. Ironically that came just after he had been in Piter singing "Blueberry Hill" to gaping and very gullible Americans from Hollyweird.

Rejecting Medvedev's plans for diversification (IT and high tech are things that Oligarchs cannot easily control), Mr. Putin instead decided to retake control and move back towards a more centralized and less democratic system. The massive cost overruns and bloated spending for the Olympics were, at least in part, payback for those Oligarchs who in the shadows approved his path of action.

Despite their differences, and there are many differences, the two have worked together for a long time. Putin values loyalty and stability, and Medvedev represents both. They both hearken back to Piter, and to being discipled by Sobchak. Medvedev is a law professor at heart and Sobchak was one of his primary law mentors. As you may remember, Sobchak was heavily involved in writing the Constitution of the RF. Therein lies another difference between the two: Medvedev believed that Russia needed to become a nation of laws and many of his planned judicial reforms were quietly swept under the rug after Putin returned to power.

There is an age difference in this "marriage" and some believe Putin had hoped that the younger Medvedev would be the perfect protector for a long time--time enough for ordinary Russian prosecutors to forget any corruption leads.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1156 on: January 17, 2015, 12:24:22 PM »
Interesting stuff, Mendy.

I've always had the feeling that given the opportunity Medvedev would become Putin's Brutus.

Although he has much to answer for it seems he was always more interested in integrating Russia into the fraternity of civilized nations instead of conquering them. More along the lines of G8 leadership, so to speak.

If his vision for Russia differs from Putin's vision he's probably wise to keep it to himself these days.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1157 on: January 17, 2015, 12:28:28 PM »
Interesting summary Mendy.  Thanks for posting it.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1158 on: January 17, 2015, 01:46:07 PM »
Medvedev fired a lot of Putin's cronies.  Sobchak like Yeltsin is a crook.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1159 on: January 17, 2015, 03:07:09 PM »
Putin is acting more the paranoid Stalin character these days.  I wonder how much more time Medvedev has before he is routed from the government.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1160 on: January 17, 2015, 03:09:09 PM »
Putin is acting more the paranoid Stalin character these days.  I wonder how much more time Medvedev has before he is routed from the government.

Medvedev might be fired but hopefully within a few years when Putin commits suicide Medvedev or another reformer will be back.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1161 on: January 17, 2015, 05:21:38 PM »
Medvedev's loyalty may be his downfall, that is if he isn't ousted first. One can stay too long in a situation and thus become personally linked to all the things that went wrong.

OTOH, the Kremlin is like the mafia--there is no formal "retirement" plan under which one just walks away from it all. The last one to do that was likely Alexei Kudrin, former Minister of Finance, and one of the most brilliant financial minds in Russia.

Some of the starkest differences between M and P are:
- Medvedev favored a free and independent media, whereas Putin has consolidated state control of media.
- Medvedev strengthened the prosecutors office and other efforts to curtain corruption. Putin thrives by harnessing and controlling corruption.
- Medvedev is a "rule of law" kind of guy, while Putin seems to prefer a "telephone verdict" kind of mentality.
- Medvedev favors a diversified economic base and small business creation. Putin has a strong preference for large companies owned by a few individuals whom he can control.

At this point Medvedev isn't reelectable in my view. Most Russians have a somewhat negative to neutral view of his time in office. Russians are told that they like stability, and they are then reminded that supposedly nobody provides stability quite like VP. The inference of course then reflects negatively on Medvedev.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1162 on: January 17, 2015, 06:10:05 PM »
Any potential successor to Putin will get the early "retirement" plan option executed for them.The more desperate the overall situation becomes-and it is worsening by the day-the more desperate and erratic Putin will become.
The easiest prediction-Putin will do anything to hang on to power.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1163 on: January 17, 2015, 09:58:27 PM »
But if USA were to take over Great Britain, then USA taxpayers would be saddled with huge educational costs of teaching proper English language to the folks there.

I don't know if Obama Care covers dental, but if it does we would also have to pay to fix all their bad teeth!   :o

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1164 on: January 18, 2015, 02:13:24 AM »
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1165 on: January 18, 2015, 07:39:06 AM »
Medvedev's loyalty may be his downfall, that is if he isn't ousted first. One can stay too long in a situation and thus become personally linked to all the things that went wrong.

OTOH, the Kremlin is like the mafia--there is no formal "retirement" plan under which one just walks away from it all. The last one to do that was likely Alexei Kudrin, former Minister of Finance, and one of the most brilliant financial minds in Russia.

Some of the starkest differences between M and P are:
- Medvedev favored a free and independent media, whereas Putin has consolidated state control of media.
- Medvedev strengthened the prosecutors office and other efforts to curtain corruption. Putin thrives by harnessing and controlling corruption.
- Medvedev is a "rule of law" kind of guy, while Putin seems to prefer a "telephone verdict" kind of mentality.
- Medvedev favors a diversified economic base and small business creation. Putin has a strong preference for large companies owned by a few individuals whom he can control.

At this point Medvedev isn't reelectable in my view. Most Russians have a somewhat negative to neutral view of his time in office. Russians are told that they like stability, and they are then reminded that supposedly nobody provides stability quite like VP. The inference of course then reflects negatively on Medvedev.

Medvedev was also on record favoring great strides in the IT marketplace including software development crucibles.  Unfortunately, this plan of development was curtailed with the internet restrictions and seizure of internet assets.
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Kremlin announced onlinespread anti-Ukrainian propaganda
« Reply #1166 on: January 19, 2015, 03:27:43 AM »
Not a surprise !!

The Kremlin announced a set of online volunteers to spread anti-Ukrainian propaganda

The Russian social network VKontakte was reported finding distributors of information from some "Denis Ochakovo" - ostensibly the analyst "New Russia".

"Denis" is trying to expand the distribution network of anti-Ukrainian information regarding the war in Donbas platform social network.
At the same time, he makes a reservation, that information is ready and the task of "helpers" just bring it to other users of the social network: "We need convinced assistants who believe in the victory of New Russia, and ready to fight in the information field," calls for "Dennis".

Assessing the situation from the point of view of information warfare, the conclusion:

Firstly, "Denis Ochakovskiy" - a fictional character from Moscow. It came out "please" and not from the occupied Donbass. Most likely, "Denis" - a Kremlin propaganda link chain.

Second, the rate on volonterov- "assistants Denis" is among adolescents. Pupils and students make up 90% of users VKontakte. Obviously, according to the Kremlin leaders "Denis", the youth must also shape their media environment. Generally, information putinyugend - an innovation in the history of information warfare.

Third, experts who planned this operation, certainly makes cool calculation to find like-minded immature teenage minds both in Russia and abroad. There is a view of the Russian diaspora, as well as the Russian-speaking audience of Belarus, Kazakhstan, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, Central Asia and other countries. The mouth of the Russian-speaking child will speak the truth, "Dennis Ochakovo".

Thus, the conclusion: the Kremlin information campaign against Ukraine tries to capture new audiences through social networks. At this time, operated youthful consciousness of Russia and Russian-speaking audiences abroad. Such a scheme will undoubtedly earn about a month and give its advocacy results.

Is not it time to Ukraine to create mechanisms to counter enemy propaganda on the system state level?
http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/8985-kreml-obyavil-nabor-internet-volonterov-dlya-rasprostraneniya-antiukrainskoy-propagandy
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Russian Terrorism
« Reply #1167 on: January 19, 2015, 03:44:11 AM »
How the command system works-

Kremlin sponsors terrorists Donbass

Statements by Russian officials about nothing to do with the events in the Donbas and do not have a grain of truth. The Russian government apparatus operates a complete system to assist gunmen in the breakaway republics of Donbass. For Russian officials, they - "militia." Millions of Russians do not realize that their taxes are spent on the maintenance of the Russian aggression in Ukraine, more simply, for those "rebels". A round of inflation in 2014 with multi-billion dollar spending on the war even more deteriorating political and economic situation in Russia.

Repeated assurances Putin and Lavrov that Russia does not participate in the war in the east of Ukraine, even on a floppy west called a lie. Help militants from Moscow really comes and it been established at the state level. At the same time, the Kremlin holds the official position - "in Ukraine is an internal conflict and Russia does not participate in it."

But there is an objective point of view, which differs from the opinion of the Russian president. So, December 15, 2014, many Russian media spread the news that Russian Prime M.Medvedev signed a decree on the establishment of the Interdepartmental Commission for the provision of humanitarian support to affected areas in southeastern Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine . Apparently - the goal of this body - to legalize covert aid the rebels in the east of Ukraine. At the same time, in his decree Medvedev has identified the main challenges for the newly created Commission:

http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/10867-kremlevskie-sponsory-terroristov-donbassa
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Re: Russian Terrorism
« Reply #1168 on: January 19, 2015, 03:48:43 AM »
Kremlin accomplices of terrorists Donbass. Part 2

Videos



Of course, in all cases it is solely about "humanitarian" assistance to residents of the zone ATO. But the terrorists still strangely "materialize" the latest military equipment (a few days ago a group of "IP" publish photos and videos from Lugansk, where the recorded samples of military equipment, which is in service only in the Russian army - cm. Below), and the Russian-terrorist troops to rotate, and increasing their presence.In addition, in Donetsk created as elements of a single supply chain terrorists, three "warehouse-distribution points," through which the supply of units of local militias and mercenaries Russian ammunition, spare parts for armored vehicles and fuel. Issuance of material resources, as the coordinator of the group "IP" Dmitry Tymchuk, carried out exclusively by groups who are subject to a single command. In some settlements in the occupied zone of Russian art so much that it is necessary to disperse the rebels to hide its significant accumulation. In addition, the continuously recorded facts arrival in Ukraine of the Russian convoys of supply with fuel and ammunition. Again, these deliveries are carried out under the guise of "humanitarian convoys"

http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/11199-kremlevskie-posobniki-terroristov-donbassa-chast-2
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1169 on: January 19, 2015, 11:05:58 AM »
Outside of "Rain" TV in Moscow, the only other non-Kremlin owned/controlled television has been silenced. TV-2, broadcasting form the Siberian city of Tomsk, was shut down by state broadcast authorities.

Ironically, they did so in telling fashion. It is the tradition for all media in Russia to broadcast the brief presidential speech from the Kremlin at midnight on New Year's Eve. Authorities allowed Mr. Putin's speech and the national anthem to play, then shut down the transmitter. The station was large: it employed some 300 persons, and reached much of Siberia.

The last news anchor, Yulia Muchnik, told viewers what was about to happen, saying "... then the chimes (Kremlin clocktower at midnight) will strike. Our special chimes. Well, we are small players and big, important state authorities are pulling the plug. Don't miss it and be with us until the end of this difficult 2014."

The RTRS (Russian Radio and Television Broadcasting Network) claimed the shut-down was due to a contractual dispute, but had no explanation for what that might have been. TV-2 management says it was because they refused to accept Kremlin control over news content.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1170 on: January 19, 2015, 01:20:29 PM »
It tells me that Putin fears an independent Siberia.

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Re: Kremlin announced onlinespread anti-Ukrainian propaganda
« Reply #1171 on: January 19, 2015, 04:49:11 PM »
Not a surprise !!

The Kremlin announced a set of online volunteers to spread anti-Ukrainian propaganda

The Russian social network VKontakte was reported finding distributors of information from some "Denis Ochakovo" - ostensibly the analyst "New Russia".Third, experts who planned this operation, certainly makes cool calculation to find like-minded immature teenage minds both in Russia and abroad. There is a view of the Russian diaspora, as well as the Russian-speaking audience of Belarus, Kazakhstan, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, Central Asia and other countries. The mouth of the Russian-speaking child will speak the truth, "Dennis Ochakovo".

This sounds exactly like the way that Gator describes his stepson, despite the boy having access to media resources that are completely unfettered by the Kremlin.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1172 on: January 20, 2015, 12:38:30 PM »
Outside of "Rain" TV in Moscow, the only other non-Kremlin owned/controlled television has been silenced. TV-2, broadcasting form the Siberian city of Tomsk, was shut down by state broadcast authorities.

Ironically, they did so in telling fashion. It is the tradition for all media in Russia to broadcast the brief presidential speech from the Kremlin at midnight on New Year's Eve. Authorities allowed Mr. Putin's speech and the national anthem to play, then shut down the transmitter. The station was large: it employed some 300 persons, and reached much of Siberia.

The last news anchor, Yulia Muchnik, told viewers what was about to happen, saying "... then the chimes (Kremlin clocktower at midnight) will strike. Our special chimes. Well, we are small players and big, important state authorities are pulling the plug. Don't miss it and be with us until the end of this difficult 2014."

The RTRS (Russian Radio and Television Broadcasting Network) claimed the shut-down was due to a contractual dispute, but had no explanation for what that might have been. TV-2 management says it was because they refused to accept Kremlin control over news content.

There were protests in Tomsk over the station being shut down. As best I could gather it was the refusal of the authority in Moscow to renew the license/contract. Yulia is a friend of my wife's.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1173 on: January 20, 2015, 12:41:49 PM »
There were protests in Tomsk over the station being shut down. As best I could gather it was the refusal of the authority in Moscow to renew the license/contract. Yulia is a friend of my wife's.


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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #1174 on: January 20, 2015, 01:03:00 PM »

Mark my words, Russia's Orange Revolution will come from Siberia.

I dunno, Putin has a pretty strong arm of support in Siberia right now from what I can see but, I'll be the first to admit I only see the surface. Many of my old friends there would echo Doll and Belvis. Things do seem to be getting progressively worse but, they don't seem to be making the connection

 

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