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« Reply #3626 on: November 01, 2015, 09:25:06 AM »
I respond without permission to anybody's post, yours included.   

Yes, you do leave your stinky deposits on whatever topic you happen to be cyber squatting in at the time. That is exactly why I don't allow you to get away with using my quotes as segues for your trolling.  ;D

I'm pretty sure you just don't like that there are reasonable responses to points that you have deemed to be unequivocal.      It just makes it easy for you to plant a label like 'Russian troll' in order to discredit....it won't do the job though.   :D

Well, one thing is sure, you've never made a "reasonable" response to anything you've quoted of mine. Your trolling has all been unintelligent, belligerent hokum designed to misdirect and derail.

I haven't planted anything. You are by definition a Russian Troll. Reading your hate filled posts slurring your own country and the west, your relentless Putin fluffing and your enthusiastic support aggressor/terrorist nations confirms it.   ;)

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« Reply #3627 on: November 01, 2015, 09:55:35 AM »
Yes, you do leave your stinky deposits on whatever topic you happen to be cyber squatting in at the time. That is exactly why I don't allow you to get away with using my quotes as segues for your trolling.  ;D

Well, one thing is sure, you've never made a "reasonable" response to anything you've quoted of mine. Your trolling has all been unintelligent, belligerent hokum designed to misdirect and derail.

I haven't planted anything. You are by definition a Russian Troll. Reading your hate filled posts slurring your own country and the west, your relentless Putin fluffing and your enthusiastic support aggressor/terrorist nations confirms it.   ;)

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I get a chuckle out of the fear that haunts you.  It shows up in the 'solutions' you provide geopolitically, and in the manner (name-calling) you attempt to address dissent to your warped perspective.  You are a pawn for the western cause...thankfully fewer are buying at this time. 


Fear rules you like an iron-fisted dictator. 


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« Reply #3628 on: November 01, 2015, 10:39:44 AM »
Of course you haven't used the term 'fear', because you don't want to be seen as being scared.  In my opinion, that is what drives the types of aggressive militaristic policies you seem to want to see implemented. 

 I have more understanding and experience with the concept of fear and the consequences of what I advocate than you could possibly comprehend.

What I "fear" is terrorism and aggression against the civilized world and innocent victims from the criminal dictators and aggressor nations/terrorists you ardently worship and support.

What I advocate is putting an end to their criminal activities and crimes against humanity by military intervention - the only language these animals you support and cheer for understand.

I make no distinction between those that actually commit these crimes and those that support the crimes like yourself. I consider you and those that are agents of violence, criminality and anarchy as much an enemy of the civilized world as any criminal dictator like Putin.

What I find ironic is that with the likes of most amoral cowards like yourself you speak of fear as if it is a bad thing because you have no experience at controlling your own fear.

You allow fear to run your life. You respond out of fear, it dictates everything you do. Your narratives on this forum reek of it.

What you don't understand is that fear is a normal human reaction to a dangerous situation. It's how one controls or overcomes that fear that determines the course of the action one might take.

That's the difference between fear and cowardice. You can't overcome your fears and that makes you a coward. ;)

You seem to think there is something important about the jumbled up post. I don't see it though.  Maybe if you boil down your 'question' I can comment, because I simply don't see whatever you are asking.

I would have thought it fairly straightforward because you've found several different ways of trying to deflect answering my questions so far, this asinine excuse I'm currently answering to being one of them. ;D

I take it you are a little concerned about how your response will be received.  I guess you lack the confidence to give a direct answer, because if you had one, you wouldn't be concerned about what you term 'my bombastic response', but what I would term counterpoints.   :o

You have made no counterpoints. All you do is troll with these kind of generalized, unintelligent and belligerent comments. And yes your bombastic 'arrogance' continues to make a fool of you. You just can't help yourself! :D

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« Reply #3629 on: November 01, 2015, 10:48:59 AM »
I get a chuckle out of the fear that haunts you.  It shows up in the 'solutions' you provide geopolitically, and in the manner (name-calling) you attempt to address dissent to your warped perspective.  You are a pawn for the western cause...thankfully fewer are buying at this time. 


Fear rules you like an iron-fisted dictator. 

Figure you're on to something that'll allow you to continue trolling me, eh?  Unfortunately for you your trolling is so repetitive I can link answers from other topics debunking your childish efforts. ;D

I have more understanding and experience with the concept of fear and the consequences of what I advocate than you could possibly comprehend.

What I "fear" is terrorism and aggression against the civilized world and innocent victims from the criminal dictators and aggressor nations/terrorists you ardently worship and support.

What I advocate is putting an end to their criminal activities and crimes against humanity by military intervention - the only language these animals you support and cheer for understand.

I make no distinction between those that actually commit these crimes and those that support the crimes like yourself. I consider you and those that are agents of violence, criminality and anarchy as much an enemy of the civilized world as any criminal dictator like Putin.

What I find ironic is that with the likes of most amoral cowards like yourself you speak of fear as if it is a bad thing because you have no experience at controlling your own fear.

You allow fear to run your life. You respond out of fear, it dictates everything you do. Your narratives on this forum reek of it.

What you don't understand is that fear is a normal human reaction to a dangerous situation. It's how one controls or overcomes that fear that determines the course of the action one might take.

That's the difference between fear and cowardice. You can't overcome your fears and that makes you a coward.

Poor effort Mr. Russian Troll. But hey! Howbout try answering the questions if you want to regain some credibility. ;D

Seems to me you should be trying to extract yourself from the corner you argued yourself into here instead of making more uninformed comments on this topic, eh?  ;)

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« Reply #3630 on: November 01, 2015, 10:49:17 AM »
I have more understanding and experience with the concept of fear and the consequences of what I advocate than you could possibly comprehend.

What I "fear" is terrorism and aggression against the civilized world and innocent victims from the criminal dictators and aggressor nations/terrorists you ardently worship and support.

What I advocate is putting an end to their criminal activities and crimes against humanity by military intervention - the only language these animals you support and cheer for understand.

I make no distinction between those that actually commit these crimes and those that support the crimes like yourself. I consider you and those that are agents of violence, criminality and anarchy as much an enemy of the civilized world as any criminal dictator like Putin.

What I find ironic is that with the likes of most amoral cowards like yourself you speak of fear as if it is a bad thing because you have no experience at controlling your own fear.

You allow fear to run your life. You respond out of fear, it dictates everything you do. Your narratives on this forum reek of it.

What you don't understand is that fear is a normal human reaction to a dangerous situation. It's how one controls or overcomes that fear that determines the course of the action one might take.

That's the difference between fear and cowardice. You can't overcome your fears and that makes you a coward. ;)

I would have thought it fairly straightforward because you've found several different ways of trying to deflect answering my questions so far, this asinine excuse I'm currently answering to being one of them. ;D

You have made no counterpoints. All you do is troll with these kind of generalized, unintelligent and belligerent comments. And yes your bombastic 'arrogance' continues to make a fool of you. You just can't help yourself! :D

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This entire post is an effort to defend yourself, it is a cowardly effort to deflect without relevant substance, or consideration of other viewpoints.  I guess your version of  'discussion' is an effort to annihilate.  Won't work on a discussion board, or in the real world in the geopolitical arena....but it remains humorous to watch you flail away, without success.  ;D


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« Reply #3631 on: November 01, 2015, 10:54:21 AM »
Figure you're on to something that'll allow you to continue trolling me, eh? ;D

Poor effort Mr. Russian Troll. But hey! Howbout try answering the questions if you want to regain some credibility. ;D

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I have known this was an important element, because it is almost always the same with your type.  Fear IS what dictates you, probably always has.   Your justifications for use of military/aggression are rather loose. I'm glad Canada may tighten up. 


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« Reply #3632 on: November 01, 2015, 10:57:37 AM »
This entire post is an effort to defend yourself, it is a cowardly effort to deflect without relevant substance, or consideration of other viewpoints.  I guess your version of  'discussion' is an effort to annihilate.  Won't work on a discussion board, or in the real world in the geopolitical arena....but it remains humorous to watch you flail away, without success.  ;D

Actually it's you to a 'T'. 'T' stands for Troll, BTW. I see we're in full on troll mode now. You're getting more desperate with each narrative you post. ;D

I hope you can do better than these amateurish attempts at deflection, though. Keep trying. :D

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« Reply #3633 on: November 01, 2015, 11:02:01 AM »
I have known this was an important element, because it is almost always the same with your type.  Fear IS what dictates you, probably always has.   Your justifications for use of military/aggression are rather loose. I'm glad Canada may tighten up. 

Already debunked just one post up thread Mr. Russian Troll. Keep trying!

Howbout answering the questions?  ;D...

Seems to me you should be trying to extract yourself from the corner you argued yourself into here instead of making more uninformed comments on this topic, eh?  ;)

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« Reply #3634 on: November 01, 2015, 11:08:15 AM »
Already debunked just one post up thread Mr. Russian Troll. Keep trying!

Howbout answering the questions?  ;D ...

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Humorous how you always desperately 'self-support'.  If you feel it is so important, I'm pretty sure you have some outstanding questions to answer, although obviously you don't have to.  :o


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« Reply #3635 on: November 01, 2015, 11:13:15 AM »
Actually it's you to a 'T'. 'T' stands for Troll, BTW. I see we're in full on troll mode now. You're getting more desperate with each narrative you post. ;D

I hope you can do better than these amateurish attempts at deflection, though. Keep trying. :D

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As far as I'm concerned, you haven't made a strong enough case EVER for some of the policies you would adopt.  Thankfully Canada seems to be a little less preoccupied with YOUR fears that you think they should be.  I'd say it is the right direction to move in. 


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What I "fear" is terrorism and aggression against the civilized world and innocent victims from the criminal dictators and aggressor nations/terrorists you ardently worship and support.
 
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Yes you do 'fear' terrorism, among other things, and you should.  Aggression can be implemented in different ways, and I'd say the Western world is plenty guilty as well, but that is to be completely disregarded in your very limited view.   :o


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« Reply #3636 on: November 01, 2015, 11:17:20 AM »
Humorous how you always desperately 'self-support'.  If you feel it is so important, I'm pretty sure you have some outstanding questions to answer, although obviously you don't have to.  :o

Nope. I make a point of debunking all your assertions except in one instance where it was obvious you were using one of your childish tactics at deflections. ;)

I don't recall alluding to "fear". Fear and cowardice are your thing, not mine. ;D

As for the rest I understand you've now met your match in me with your habitual trolling and Putin fluffing you splash about the forum.

However, before entering into another 7 or 8 pages of deconstructing your deflection and misrepresentations. How about you answer the questions I've put to you first then I'll be happy to expand on my opinion.

This doesn't mean I won't expand on my own statements as time permits and I feel necessary but it certainly won't be because of your amateur attempt at deflection and trying to draw attention from your own embarrassing predicament next door on the other thread.  ;D

Keep trying! ;D

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« Reply #3637 on: November 01, 2015, 11:27:35 AM »
Nope. I make a point of debunking all your assertions except in one instance where it was obvious you were using one of your childish tactics at deflections. ;)

Keep trying! ;D

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This is you self-supporting again.  You make counter points as you should. if you have a position...that is all...your neediness regarding outright winning is just simply your 'need'.  Ultimately you are limited by what has happened on the ground, and you can continue to polish a turd, but it remains a turd.  There are no good guys, this is not cowboys and Indians...funny how the reality of that analogy is so much different than what kids were 'taught'. 


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« Reply #3638 on: November 01, 2015, 11:44:15 AM »
As far as I'm concerned, you haven't made a strong enough case EVER for some of the policies you would adopt.   

Well, I've made strong enough arguments that you, being a Russian Troll has singled me out to attack and troll in your feeble attempts to misdirect and derail what I've posted. So who fears whom!  ;D

Thankfully Canada seems to be a little less preoccupied with YOUR fears that you think they should be.  I'd say it is the right direction to move in.

Oh, look. More generic, belligerent smack talk that actually says nothing but that "I'm glad Canada may not interfere with my hero's (Putin) aggression". ;D


Yes you do 'fear' terrorism, among other things, and you should.  Aggression can be implemented in different ways, and I'd say the Western world is plenty guilty as well, but that is to be completely disregarded in your very limited view.   :o

I may "fear" the acts of terrorism and violent aggression that your people may perpetrate on the civilized world in that I fear for the innocent lives affected. What sane person wouldn't.

However, I do not fear the perpetrators and those that are the amoral seditious agents of support (like yourself) of these crimes aggression and terrorism.

So again, you've inadvertently provided another example of the difference between fear (my kind)and cowardice (your kind). The Russian Troll Factory is really not getting their money's worth out of you at all. ;D

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« Reply #3639 on: November 01, 2015, 12:01:23 PM »
Well, I've made strong enough arguments that you, being a Russian Troll has singled me out to attack and troll in your feeble attempts to misdirect and derail what I've posted. So who fears whom!  ;D

 


I'd say you seem to fear my viewpoint, far more than I fear yours, and others.  I don't think I've singled you out, I have disagreed with practically everybody at one time or another.  It is interesting though to see how you take things to extremes name call, and attempt to utterly discredit, rather than address each issue rationally.  I think that designates actual fear of a real discussion, which you should also have, since I believe your stances have been, and will likely continue to be borne out to be wrong.  The 'bad guys'  'good guys' silliness is mostly in your underdeveloped brain.


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« Reply #3640 on: November 01, 2015, 12:11:11 PM »
This is you self-supporting again.  You make counter points as you should. if you have a position...that is all...your neediness regarding outright winning is just simply your 'need'.  Ultimately you are limited by what has happened on the ground, and you can continue to polish a turd, but it remains a turd.  There are no good guys, this is not cowboys and Indians...funny how the reality of that analogy is so much different than what kids were 'taught'. 

This is you self-supporting again.

Another non statement. Of course it's "self supporting"...I'm the one you're attacking/trolling. 

  You make counter points as you should. if you have a position...that is all...your neediness regarding outright winning is just simply your 'need'.  Ultimately you are limited by what has happened on the ground, and you can continue to polish a turd, but it remains a turd.  There are no good guys, this is not cowboys and Indians...funny how the reality of that analogy is so much different than what kids were 'taught'. 

Wow, talk about complete amoral seditious dogma straight out of the Russian Troll Handbook.

We must be entering into the post 'any asinine comment to keep trolling' phase of your lunacy now. :D

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« Reply #3641 on: November 01, 2015, 12:23:11 PM »
Another non statement. Of course it's "self supporting"...I'm the one you're attacking/trolling. 

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Yes, you are an innocent victim of attacks and trolling!   :rolleyes:

Wow, talk about complete amoral seditious dogma straight out of the Russian Troll Handbook.

We must be entering into the post 'any asinine comment to keep trolling' phase of your lunacy now. :D

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YOUR morality is not something anyone should strive for.  It involves absolutism of the mind, and in the end would create a perpetual state of war.   No thanks.  You can play cowboys and Indians in your living room, if that is what stimulates you. 


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« Reply #3642 on: November 01, 2015, 12:30:22 PM »
I'd say you seem to fear my viewpoint, far more than I fear yours, and others.  I don't think I've singled you out, I have disagreed with practically everybody at one time or another.  It is interesting though to see how you take things to extremes name call, and attempt to utterly discredit, rather than address each issue rationally.  I think that designates actual fear of a real discussion, which you should also have, since I believe your stances have been, and will likely continue to be borne out to be wrong.  The 'bad guys'  'good guys' silliness is mostly in your underdeveloped brain.

I don't fear Russian Trolls like yourself, fathertime. I simply show them for the amoral cowards they are. You've made that comically easy! ;D

There is no rationale to your "viewpoint" as you laughingly call your trolling. I've simply caught you again making untrue statements and presenting false facts in support of an aggressor nation you support.

You predictably try every means of deflection when caught peddling your lies but simply can't escape the obvious - You are an advocate and supporter of criminal regimes and terrorism.

Now, after all this hokum you've posted today we still end up at the reason your trying anything to deflect away from the crux of the matter with your comically asinine false assertions... ;D

Seems to me you should be trying to extract yourself from the corner you argued yourself into here instead of making more uninformed comments on this topic, eh?  ;)


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« Reply #3643 on: November 01, 2015, 12:46:14 PM »
I don't fear Russian Trolls like yourself, fathertime. I simply show them for the amoral cowards they are. You've made that comically easy! ;D

There is no rationale to your "viewpoint" as you laughingly call your trolling. I've simply caught you again making untrue statements and presenting false facts in support of an aggressor nation you support.

You predictably try every means of deflection when caught peddling your lies but simply can't escape the obvious - You are an advocate and supporter of criminal regimes and terrorism.

Now, after all this hokum you've posted today we still end up at the reason your trying anything to deflect away from the crux of the matter with your comically asinine false assertions... ;D


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Of course you feel this way!  Not over-considering the Western viewpoint is called 'trolling', according to you! 


I'd say that you are a supporter of criminal regime, and terrorism, but you won't acknowledge it....probably don't realize it, and never will.  If we were to ignore our own injustices, and follow your paranoid prescriptions the majority of the people of the world would cease to be alive. 


I'd say the crux of the matter is that we can't let people with paranoia, fear, and selective memory, run nations that control a powerful military like ours....you provide a good example of the type we can't have in the white house....  We have lucked out so far.


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« Reply #3644 on: November 01, 2015, 12:50:49 PM »
If Fathertime is a paid Russian troll, the Kremlin is certainly getting their moneys worth.  You are enabling him since nearly every one else ignores him and does not respond to his trolling.

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« Reply #3645 on: November 01, 2015, 12:59:04 PM »
Yes, you are an innocent victim of attacks and trolling!   :rolleyes:

Indeed.


YOUR morality is not something anyone should strive for.  It involves absolutism of the mind, and in the end would create a perpetual state of war.   No thanks.  You can play cowboys and Indians in your living room, if that is what stimulates you. 

My morality isn't at issue here, never was. I'm not the Russian Troll, fluffing a criminal dictator or supporting aggressor nation(s) nor do I continuously post lies and comments denigrating my own country or the west. That's all you, Mr. Russian Troll.  :D

You post absolutism, I call it "resolve". Cowboys and Indians is the wrong analogy to attribute in dealing with you. I liken your constant propaganda, trolling, Putin worship and support of aggressor nations and terrorism more to dealing with an unrepentant pedophile or rapist - You're some one who is as immoral and repugnant as they come and should be exposed for the safety of others as quickly as possible. ;)

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« Reply #3646 on: November 01, 2015, 01:00:53 PM »
If Fathertime is a paid Russian troll, the Kremlin is certainly getting their moneys worth.  You are enabling him since nearly every one else ignores him and does not respond to his trolling.

Ignoring a problem is not the way I deal with things, Cal. Never has been. Besides, that's exactly what this punk fathertime is counting on.

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« Reply #3647 on: November 01, 2015, 01:07:21 PM »
Either way, at least we can count on Russia to tell everyone the truth after the investigation.

Like Chernobyl or MH-17, at least the varying degrees of truth would be entertaining were they not so sadly stupid.
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« Reply #3648 on: November 01, 2015, 01:16:21 PM »
Indeed.


My morality isn't at issue here, never was. I'm not the Russian Troll, fluffing a criminal dictator or supporting aggressor nation(s) nor do I continuously post lies and comments denigrating my own country or the west. That's all you, Mr. Russian Troll.  :D 
Well actually YOU are the one who mistakenly brought morality into it. 



 I liken your constant propaganda, trolling, Putin worship and support of aggressor nations and terrorism more to dealing with an unrepentant pedophile or rapist - You're some one who is as immoral and repugnant as they come and should be exposed for the safety of others as quickly as possible. ;)

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hahaha, so now i'm liked to a 'pedophile or rapist'...it is getting funnier and funnier how extreme you become, when you don't get your way. Sorry but in case you haven't noticed, that isn't the way the world always works, there can be competing ideas and despite your angry proclamations, the person bringing them forth, doesn't necessarily have to be a rapist to do so.




Ignoring a problem is not the way I deal with things, Cal. Never has been. Besides, that's exactly what this punk fathertime is counting on.

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Just the other day, you exclaimed on anther thread not dealing with a problem in your household was the way you handled disputes, so now suddenly is not something you never did? How can both statements be accurate?  :o

[size=78%]Calmissile doesn't really ignore me, but he does often post that he does, right up until you responds to a post of mine!  You on the other hand, just fear that inconvenient truths are brought forth.     [/size]
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« Reply #3649 on: November 01, 2015, 01:21:51 PM »
Of course you feel this way!  Not over-considering the Western viewpoint is called 'trolling', according to you! 

More misdirection. What I consider trolling is your activities over the last 5 pages on this topic.

I'd say that you are a supporter of criminal regime, and terrorism, but you won't acknowledge it....probably don't realize it, and never will.  If we were to ignore our own injustices, and follow your paranoid prescriptions the majority of the people of the world would cease to be alive. 

More of your unsupported cowardice and seditious dogma and hypocrisy. You advocate living under the criminal dictators and criminal regimes you advocate and support instead...But you'd be safe and that's all the at counts, right? ;D

I'd say the crux of the matter is that we can't let people with paranoia, fear, and selective memory, run nations that control a powerful military like ours....you provide a good example of the type we can't have in the white house....  We have lucked out so far.

...And I'd say this current US administration is the anomaly. Men and women of resolve and morality have mostly found their way to the positions they needed to be in when they are needed. Churchill, Roosevelt, Reagan come to mind.

Criminal sympathizers like yourself seem to crawl out from the shadows when there is weak leadership.

It is you and the criminals you support that is the aberration and abhorrent symptom of the times. 
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