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« Reply #3825 on: December 03, 2015, 10:57:51 AM »
Despite what you view as 'truth', all the major powers continue to disagree and move forward....which doesn't much credence to your angry partisan complaints.

Your BS in no way mitigates the fact that;

1) There is no deal.

2) Obama would move forward (with the other countries in tow) even if the Iranians were nationally televising they were converting uranium. He has to move forward or be proven wrong and that the whole exercise was pointless, which it was.

Nobody is trying to 'shout you down'...it is funny that YOU view it that way though....

I view it that way because that's exactly what you are trying to. Anybody reading this topic sees that.

It is completely fair to say that if you had your way, we (The US) would be involved in another full scale needless war.   Meanwhile the deal IS moving forward just the way it is supposed to.  If there was truly a problem like you continue to complain there is, I don't think ALL the major powers would be in unanimous agreement to continue the forward movement. 
Another week is passing and still no nukes or war in Iran....I label that a good thing....if anything it is YOU that is advocating terrorism although nobody in power is listening.   

More of your lies and misdirection;

1) Obama lifting the sanctions practically guarantees a (not too distant) war. Not the other way around.

2) The countries involved in this debacle are in the same boat as Obama. They can no more back out than Obama for the same reasons. Obama saw to that.

3) The sanctions are not fully lifted yet. You measure good news in weeks as if this is a victory for you. It's not. Even the most ambitious estimates are three to five months for Iran to achieve nuclear breakout after the sanctions are lifted.

You'll keep spewing your Iranian terrorist hero's propaganda. However, we're into the last year of Obama's disastrous presidency. Hopefully, this fiasco can be corrected by a new administration before Iran has a chance to do too much damage.

In the meantime this headline I linked up thread is the truth of the matter...

Iran Nuclear Deal Is Not ‘Legally Binding,’ Obama Administration Admits

..."The nuclear deal agreed upon in July by the P5+1 world powers (US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China) and the Islamic Republic of Iran has no “legally binding” basis. The deal, paraded by President Obama as a surefire measure to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, is held together simply as a “political commitment” by the parties to the accord, the State Department admitted in a recent letter."...

www.breitbart.com

...Strong work, Barry. After all the negotiations and time wasted trying to forge your 'historic' sellout you couldn't even get the terrorist leaders to sign the damn thing.

In other words Obama and Kerry got nothing - zero, zilch, nada from these criminals except a promise from some terrorist leaders that they won't continue building a nuclear arsenal they've been working on for 20+ years and couldn't complete because of the very sanctions that are now being lifted...Brilliant strategy. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #3826 on: December 03, 2015, 01:37:48 PM »
Your BS in no way mitigates the fact that;

1) There is no deal.

2) Obama would move forward (with the other countries in tow) even if the Iranians were nationally televising they were converting uranium. He has to move forward or be proven wrong and that the whole exercise was pointless, which it was.

I view it that way because that's exactly what you are trying to. Anybody reading this topic sees that.

More of your lies and misdirection;

1) Obama lifting the sanctions practically guarantees a (not too distant) war. Not the other way around.

2) The countries involved in this debacle are in the same boat as Obama. They can no more back out than Obama for the same reasons. Obama saw to that.

3) The sanctions are not fully lifted yet. You measure good news in weeks as if this is a victory for you. It's not. Even the most ambitious estimates are three to five months for Iran to achieve nuclear breakout after the sanctions are lifted.

You'll keep spewing your Iranian terrorist hero's propaganda. However, we're into the last year of Obama's disastrous presidency. Hopefully, this fiasco can be corrected by a new administration before Iran has a chance to do too much damage.

In the meantime this headline I linked up thread is the truth of the matter...

Iran Nuclear Deal Is Not ‘Legally Binding,’ Obama Administration Admits

..."The nuclear deal agreed upon in July by the P5+1 world powers (US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China) and the Islamic Republic of Iran has no “legally binding” basis. The deal, paraded by President Obama as a surefire measure to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, is held together simply as a “political commitment” by the parties to the accord, the State Department admitted in a recent letter."...

www.breitbart.com

...Strong work, Barry. After all the negotiations and time wasted trying to forge your 'historic' sellout you couldn't even get the terrorist leaders to sign the damn thing.

In other words Obama and Kerry got nothing - zero, zilch, nada from these criminals except a promise from some terrorist leaders that they won't continue building a nuclear arsenal they've been working on for 20+ years and couldn't complete because of the very sanctions that are now being lifted...Brilliant strategy. :rolleyes:

Brass

Rather than all the world power leaderships being wrong it is far more likely is that YOU are not willing to admit that you were wrong....and in a year or two will still be insisting a major war is 'around the corner'...and in 10 years it will still be 'around the corner'.   

Just because I'm challenging your warped narrative isn't tantamount to me 'shouting you down'. Nobody is under obligation to agree or remain silent regarding the hysterical war mongering you continually attempt to promote. 

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« Reply #3827 on: December 03, 2015, 08:30:53 PM »
Rather than all the world power leaderships being wrong ..........

What about ....?
 "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
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Don't think so?
I sure do and have tried previously to convince Brass while sharing yet another subject.
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« Reply #3828 on: December 04, 2015, 01:11:47 AM »
Russia faces massive USD 14 billion loss over cancelled South Stream and TurkStream gas projects

   
Gas and oil revenues pay for almost half Russia's annual budget
Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak has confirmed that the TurkStream gas project with Turkey is cancelled.

The abrupt ending of the project is the biggest economic ramification of the simmering trade war between Ankara and Moscow - sparked by the downing of a Russian jet near Syria last month.

"The work of the [Russian-Turkish] inter-governmental commission on trade and economic cooperation has been suspended. And the suspension includes halting of the work of the innovation-industry group and preparations of the agreement on Turkish Stream project," Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak told reporters on Thursday.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-faces-massive-14-billion-loss-over-cancelled-south-stream-and-turkstream-gas-projects-547093.html

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« Reply #3829 on: December 04, 2015, 07:38:45 AM »
Rather than all the world power leaderships being wrong it is far more likely is that YOU are not willing to admit that you were wrong....and in a year or two will still be insisting a major war is 'around the corner'...and in 10 years it will still be 'around the corner'.   

Just because I'm challenging your warped narrative isn't tantamount to me 'shouting you down'. Nobody is under obligation to agree or remain silent regarding the hysterical war mongering you continually attempt to promote.

You're full of crap. You continue repeating the same unsubstantiated propaganda and terrorist fluffing post after post.

Your groveling adoration of Iran's terrorist regime is pathetic.

There's a jarring omission from a major new report on Iran's nuclear-weapons program



Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif stands on the balcony of Palais Coburg, the venue for nuclear talks, Austria, July 13, 2015

..."Under the US's interpretation of the nuclear deal, Iran was not obligated to fully cooperate with the IAEA probe, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Even with such a loose standard for Iranian compliance, the IAEA found that Iran had engaged in nuclear-weaponization activities until 2009, some six years longer than previously available open-source information had suggested."...

..."The IAEA reports that Iran engaged in computer modeling of nuclear-explosive devices, and conducted research into engineering controlled materials for possible weaponization purposes until 2009. But it says relatively little about the human infrastructure of Iran's efforts to build a nuclear weapon — an infrastructure that survived beyond 2009."...

..."Even assuming Iran had halted most weaponization work in 2003 and all such work by 2009, the country in 2012 had preserved a formal network of scientists that could be mobilized for the development of a nuclear bomb.

Iran retained the personnel, the infrastructure, and the technical knowledge of its earlier weaponization push, even if an actual weapons program had been suspended. The "organizational framework" for a nuclear weapons program was still in place as late as 2012."...

..."In its probe, the IAEA learned nothing new about an alleged test of a ballistic nuclear trigger that Iran "may have planned and undertaken" in 2002 or 2003, also basing its conclusions on information received before 2011.

"Faced with such outright Iranian efforts to deceive the inspectors, the IAEA broke relatively little new ground," an assessment from the Institute for Science and International Security concluded."...

http://www.businessinsider.com/iaea-report-on-iran-nuclear-weapons-program-2015-12

You're nothing more than a useful idiot to the terrorist cause. You're the guy Javad above is laughing at every time you defend his terrorist agenda.

The comical part is you actually believe you're part of their team.

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« Reply #3830 on: December 04, 2015, 08:58:51 AM »
You're full of crap. You continue repeating the same unsubstantiated propaganda and terrorist fluffing post after post.

Your groveling adoration of Iran's terrorist regime is pathetic.

There's a jarring omission from a major new report on Iran's nuclear-weapons program



Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif stands on the balcony of Palais Coburg, the venue for nuclear talks, Austria, July 13, 2015

..."Under the US's interpretation of the nuclear deal, Iran was not obligated to fully cooperate with the IAEA probe, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Even with such a loose standard for Iranian compliance, the IAEA found that Iran had engaged in nuclear-weaponization activities until 2009, some six years longer than previously available open-source information had suggested."...

..."The IAEA reports that Iran engaged in computer modeling of nuclear-explosive devices, and conducted research into engineering controlled materials for possible weaponization purposes until 2009. But it says relatively little about the human infrastructure of Iran's efforts to build a nuclear weapon — an infrastructure that survived beyond 2009."...

..."Even assuming Iran had halted most weaponization work in 2003 and all such work by 2009, the country in 2012 had preserved a formal network of scientists that could be mobilized for the development of a nuclear bomb.

Iran retained the personnel, the infrastructure, and the technical knowledge of its earlier weaponization push, even if an actual weapons program had been suspended. The "organizational framework" for a nuclear weapons program was still in place as late as 2012."...

..."In its probe, the IAEA learned nothing new about an alleged test of a ballistic nuclear trigger that Iran "may have planned and undertaken" in 2002 or 2003, also basing its conclusions on information received before 2011.

"Faced with such outright Iranian efforts to deceive the inspectors, the IAEA broke relatively little new ground," an assessment from the Institute for Science and International Security concluded."...

http://www.businessinsider.com/iaea-report-on-iran-nuclear-weapons-program-2015-12

You're nothing more than a useful idiot to the terrorist cause. You're the guy Javad above is laughing at every time you defend his terrorist agenda.

The comical part is you actually believe you're part of their team.

Brass


What is most pathetic is YOUR fruitless efforts to undermine the deal. Heck you aren't even a part of the US, yet you think you should be dictating the deals our country makes.   


You and your war mongering has tomato in the face.  Things move forward, and you shake your fist in worthless anger.   
Look another week is passing, and Iran still has no nukes!  Soon it will be months/years, and the tomato on your face will be all dried up.


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« Reply #3831 on: December 04, 2015, 10:44:58 AM »
What is most pathetic is YOUR fruitless efforts to undermine the deal. Heck you aren't even a part of the US, yet you think you should be dictating the deals our country makes.   

This disastrous sell out effects everyone and why is your clown, who clearly has abrogated his right to speak on anyone's behalf, let alone the civilized world, making noises like he speaks for me in the first place?

You and your war mongering has tomato in the face.  Things move forward, and you shake your fist in worthless anger.   
Look another week is passing, and Iran still has no nukes!  Soon it will be months/years, and the tomato on your face will be all dried up.

It is you who is war mongering by advocating Obama's promissory note with known terrorists. It is his surrender to these terrorists that guarantees the war, not the other way around.

You continue to measure success in weeks when I've already told you that the best estimates for your terrorist leaders to attain breakout is three to five months.

You troll with nothing but fallacious disinformation and prostrated fluffing of your Iranian heroes.

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« Reply #3832 on: December 04, 2015, 02:50:38 PM »
You're full of crap. You continue repeating the same unsubstantiated propaganda and terrorist fluffing post after post.

Brass

Brass--I sincerely hope this is not a new revelation to you !!! :D

I was saying that over 18 months ago as the troll pumped the pro-Rus crap on full stream.

Hard as it will be for you to believe--I got a few banned periods for saying it back then and spent time in the sin bin  !
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #3833 on: December 04, 2015, 02:56:57 PM »
This disastrous sell out effects everyone and why is your clown, who clearly has abrogated his right to speak on anyone's behalf, let alone the civilized world, making noises like he speaks for me in the first place?



So you think Obama is a sellout and a clown...because he is going in with all the other major world powers...they UNANIMOUSLY agreed this was the best route to go....but you insist YOU know better than all of them.   :rolleyes:





You continue to measure success in weeks when I've already told you that the best estimates for your terrorist leaders to attain breakout is three to five months.



I shall remind you that it has already been almost 5 months since the deal was struck....so to this point it closing in on 1/2 a year with no nukes.




You troll with nothing but fallacious disinformation and prostrated fluffing of your Iranian heroes.


Yes, yes...troll etc etc...hahaha.  The one providing disinformation is YOU.  If your 'information' was taken seriously, the world would probably be at war by now....so obviously you are free to continue to hysterically 'fluff yourself'...while I'll continue to take a look at the issue with a level head...so far the level heads are prevailing, and you and have tomato on your face....rightfully so I might add....


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« Reply #3834 on: December 04, 2015, 02:58:09 PM »
Brass--I sincerely hope this is not a new revelation to you !!! :D

I was saying that over 18 months ago as the troll pumped the pro-Rus crap on full stream.

Hard as it will be for you to believe--I got a few banned periods for saying it back then and spent time in the sin bin  !


I didn't realize it was me that got your thrown in the 'sin bin', but I'm delighted it was me that provided that service to the forum!


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« Reply #3835 on: December 06, 2015, 09:23:38 AM »
So you think Obama is a sellout and a clown...because he is going in with all the other major world powers...they UNANIMOUSLY agreed this was the best route to go....but you insist YOU know better than all of them.   :rolleyes:

I shall remind you that it has already been almost 5 months since the deal was struck....so to this point it closing in on 1/2 a year with no nukes.

Yes, yes...troll etc etc...hahaha.  The one providing disinformation is YOU.  If your 'information' was taken seriously, the world would probably be at war by now....so obviously you are free to continue to hysterically 'fluff yourself'...while I'll continue to take a look at the issue with a level head...so far the level heads are prevailing, and you and have tomato on your face....rightfully so I might add....

I've already refuted every one of these lies several times up thread.

Although you still attempt to fulfill your role as the useful idiot spewing your fallacious deflection to further your Iranian hero's agenda, at the heart of the matter, you have neither the intelligence or subject knowledge to even attempt to defend the indefensible. So you'll continue to ignore the facts and truth of my narratives/links and simply repeat your seditious mantras that do nothing more than confirm your ardent terrorist worship .

Meanwhile, I'll continue to link the Iranian terrorist leader's march to nuclear breakout as the information becomes available while the ineffectual Obama sellout inevitably falls apart.

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« Reply #3836 on: December 06, 2015, 11:02:33 AM »
I've already refuted every one of these lies several times up thread.

Although you still attempt to fulfill your role as the useful idiot spewing your fallacious deflection to further your Iranian hero's agenda, at the heart of the matter, you have neither the intelligence or subject knowledge to even attempt to defend the indefensible. So you'll continue to ignore the facts and truth of my narratives/links and simply repeat your seditious mantras that do nothing more than confirm your ardent terrorist worship .

Meanwhile, I'll continue to link the Iranian terrorist leader's march to nuclear breakout as the information becomes available while the ineffectual Obama sellout inevitably falls apart.

Brass
Steaming pile of 'intellectual' caca!  What you consider 'facts' and 'refutation' are often not facts or factual refutes, but rather biased black and white narratives that holes can easily poked into.  I'm pretty sure you have worshiped your own brand of terror now for decades, except that isn't what you called it.


The deal moves forward, and you writhe in trembling anger because you don't get to see what you view as the delectable delicacy of more western bombs falling on people that don't want to be domineered from afar.  A fair deal was struck involving not just Obama, but all the major powers. Deaf ears is all you will experience, and that is a very good thing!


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« Reply #3837 on: December 06, 2015, 09:28:24 PM »

I didn't realize it was me that got your thrown in the 'sin bin', but I'm delighted it was me that provided that service to the forum!


Fathertime!   

You did'nt. It was the people I cannot mention  that did not realise at that time what a piece of c...  you are.Not a problem now--it is obvious to all.
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« Reply #3838 on: December 06, 2015, 11:10:06 PM »

Brass--I sincerely hope this is not a new revelation to you !!! :D

I was saying that over 18 months ago as the troll pumped the pro-Rus crap on full stream.

Hard as it will be for you to believe--I got a few banned periods for saying it back then and spent time in the sin bin  !

You did'nt. It was the people I cannot mention  that did not realise at that time what a piece of c...  you are.Not a problem now--it is obvious to all.
Poor hapless jayh,
So now you must admit you lied!  Which of these two posts is the lie though? Obviously since they are saying opposite things it isn't possible for both to be true.    hahaha...


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« Reply #3839 on: December 07, 2015, 09:38:56 AM »
Steaming pile of 'intellectual' caca!  What you consider 'facts' and 'refutation' are often not facts or factual refutes, but rather biased black and white narratives that holes can easily poked into.  I'm pretty sure you have worshiped your own brand of terror now for decades, except that isn't what you called it.

The deal moves forward, and you writhe in trembling anger because you don't get to see what you view as the delectable delicacy of more western bombs falling on people that don't want to be domineered from afar.  A fair deal was struck involving not just Obama, but all the major powers. Deaf ears is all you will experience, and that is a very good thing!

And yet you continue to post lies and misdirection as your sole means of answering to my 'facts'. Try as you might to deflect from the truth of the matter  you're simply not capable of 'poking holes' in anything I've posted or linked. All you can do is keep spewing more of your seditious poison.

You're basically just an idiot trying to show your fealty and support for your terrorist master's cause through unintelligent, malicious rhetoric which you inject into normal discussions at every opportunity. 

What you don't seem to understand is your pathetic trolling only serves to strengthen the veracity of my posts/comments not detract from it.

Brass 



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« Reply #3840 on: December 07, 2015, 10:44:17 AM »
And yet you continue to post lies and misdirection as your sole means of answering
What you don't seem to understand is your pathetic trolling only serves to strengthen the veracity of my posts/comments not detract from it.

Brass

Brass-- the easiest illustration of exactly that is the posts immediately above.
You and I both understand my reference very well -and what it was about--yet the troll seeks to make it about him and in the process illustrates his ignorance on a very specific topic-- yet- that does not stop the attempt to interject in the attempt to get attention.
Laughable and pathetic
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« Reply #3841 on: December 07, 2015, 11:15:32 AM »
Brass-- the easiest illustration of exactly that is the posts immediately above.
You and I both understand my reference very well -and what it was about--yet the troll seeks to make it about him and in the process illustrates his ignorance on a very specific topic-- yet- that does not stop the attempt to interject in the attempt to get attention.
Laughable and pathetic

Yep, I understand your comment (s) and their context. What will happen here though is our resident troll will attempt to exploit what he perceives as a chance to keep his malicious rhetoric alive and running. He's probably good for another dozen or so posts yet before the loop repeats itself. ;D

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« Reply #3842 on: December 07, 2015, 12:05:37 PM »
And yet you continue to post lies and misdirection as your sole means of answering to my 'facts'. Try as you might to deflect from the truth of the matter  you're simply not capable of 'poking holes' in anything I've posted or linked. All you can do is keep spewing more of your seditious poison.

You're basically just an idiot trying to show your fealty and support for your terrorist master's cause through unintelligent, malicious rhetoric which you inject into normal discussions at every opportunity. 

What you don't seem to understand is your pathetic trolling only serves to strengthen the veracity of my posts/comments not detract from it.

Brass


Only in your mind are your 'points' strengthened, which is ok with me.  I'm reasonably certain, that is not the case.  You are merely a small man on a computer mongering for more war, on very shaky ground...  There is plenty of support for the current Iran deal, and that has you all in a twist.  Several years later you will still be whining from your wheelchair about how it was such a terrible deal, meanwhile the world won't have experienced the large war you eagerly await.


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« Reply #3843 on: December 07, 2015, 12:08:41 PM »
Brass-- the easiest illustration of exactly that is the posts immediately above.
You and I both understand my reference very well -and what it was about--yet the troll seeks to make it about him and in the process illustrates his ignorance on a very specific topic-- yet- that does not stop the attempt to interject in the attempt to get attention.
Laughable and pathetic


You don't seem to be 'laughing' though!  ;)


I find your posts to be a particular brand of ignorance, which actually is a bit humorous.  In the case of the Iran deal, most of the world seems to agree with the viewpoint I have.  It is merely a smaller group of war fanatics that would like to light the world a fire unnecessarily, and I'm pretty sure they are being seen for what they are more and more.


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« Reply #3844 on: December 07, 2015, 02:07:48 PM »

Only in your mind are your 'points' strengthened, which is ok with me.  I'm reasonably certain, that is not the case.  You are merely a small man on a computer mongering for more war, on very shaky ground...  There is plenty of support for the current Iran deal, and that has you all in a twist.  Several years later you will still be whining from your wheelchair about how it was such a terrible deal, meanwhile the world won't have experienced the large war you eagerly await.

If it were "reasonably certain, that is not the case" you'd be able to put forth a reasonable argument instead of the slander, lies and propaganda you spew on a daily basis.

Obama's promissory note will not survive several months let alone several years and the anarchist war you, your terrorist leaders have worked for/supported and think they can win is already guaranteed.

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« Reply #3845 on: December 07, 2015, 02:55:42 PM »
If it were "reasonably certain, that is not the case" you'd be able to put forth a reasonable argument instead of the slander, lies and propaganda you spew on a daily basis.

Obama's promissory note will not survive several months let alone several years and the anarchist war you, your terrorist leaders have worked for/supported and think they can win is already guaranteed.

Brass
YOU are the propaganda guy.  Thus far it has all proved to be wrong, as usual.  The proof is that Iran doesn't have nuclear material.  The deal is working, and you couldn't be unhappier about it.   Your scare mongering has failed. Had you succeeded we would have been in a large and pointless war...but this would have delighted your warped sense of 'right'

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« Reply #3846 on: December 08, 2015, 09:40:38 AM »
YOU are the propaganda guy.  Thus far it has all proved to be wrong, as usual.  The proof is that Iran doesn't have nuclear material.

As I've already conclusively established, you'll post any outrageous lie, dis/misinformation, maliciously troll or otherwise disrupt/muddy the truth of what I'm posting to try and shout me down. In other words you'll post any BS to prostrate yourself to your terrorist cause and further your terrorist leader's agenda.

I've posted several times you have absolutely no understanding of the subject. This asinine statement quote/statement of yours  that "The proof is that Iran doesn't have nuclear material" is just one more example of how far out of your intellectual depth you really are...

This is Iran's nuclear materials inventory...

http://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/gov-2015-50-derestr.pdf


The deal is working, and you couldn't be unhappier about it.   Your scare mongering has failed. Had you succeeded we would have been in a large and pointless war...but this would have delighted your warped sense of 'right'

U.S. Officials: Iran Tested Missile, Violating U.N. Resolution

..."WASHINGTON/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran tested a new medium-range ballistic missile last month in a breach of two U.N. Security Council resolutions, two U.S. officials said on Monday.

The officials, both speaking on condition of anonymity, said the test was held on Nov. 21. One of them said the missile traveled within Iranian territory."...

http://www.newsweek.com/iran-missile-united-nations-402380

Iran tests new ballistic missile in breach of 2 UN Security Council resolutions

..."Iran tested a new medium-range ballistic missile last month in a breach of two U.N. Security Council resolutions, two U.S. officials said on Monday."...

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-tests-new-ballistic-missile-in-breach-of-un-security-council-2015-12

Iran tested missile, breaching U.N. council resolutions: Report
Reuters
Tuesday, December 8, 2015 1:11:28 EST AM

..."A Western diplomatic source said last week on condition of anonymity that the test was held near Chabahar, a port city near Iran's border with Pakistan. He said it was a liquid-fueled missile with a 1,900 km (1,180 mile) range and was capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

All ballistic missile tests by Iran are banned under a 2010 Security Council resolution that remains valid until a nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers is implemented."...

http://www.lfpress.com/2015/12/07/iran-tested-missile-breaching-un-council-resolutions-report

...And you are a very useful idiot to the terrorist cause.

Brass


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« Reply #3847 on: December 08, 2015, 10:40:10 AM »
As I've already conclusively established, you'll post any outrageous lie, dis/misinformation, maliciously troll or otherwise disrupt/muddy the truth of what I'm posting to try and shout me down. In other words you'll post any BS to prostrate yourself to your terrorist cause and further your terrorist leader's agenda.

I've posted several times you have absolutely no understanding of the subject. This asinine statement quote/statement of yours  that "The proof is that Iran doesn't have nuclear material" is just one more example of how far out of your intellectual depth you really are...

This is Iran's nuclear materials inventory...

http://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/gov-2015-50-derestr.pdf


U.S. Officials: Iran Tested Missile, Violating U.N. Resolution

..."WASHINGTON/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran tested a new medium-range ballistic missile last month in a breach of two U.N. Security Council resolutions, two U.S. officials said on Monday.

The officials, both speaking on condition of anonymity, said the test was held on Nov. 21. One of them said the missile traveled within Iranian territory."...

http://www.newsweek.com/iran-missile-united-nations-402380

Iran tests new ballistic missile in breach of 2 UN Security Council resolutions

..."Iran tested a new medium-range ballistic missile last month in a breach of two U.N. Security Council resolutions, two U.S. officials said on Monday."...

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-tests-new-ballistic-missile-in-breach-of-un-security-council-2015-12

Iran tested missile, breaching U.N. council resolutions: Report
Reuters
Tuesday, December 8, 2015 1:11:28 EST AM

..."A Western diplomatic source said last week on condition of anonymity that the test was held near Chabahar, a port city near Iran's border with Pakistan. He said it was a liquid-fueled missile with a 1,900 km (1,180 mile) range and was capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

All ballistic missile tests by Iran are banned under a 2010 Security Council resolution that remains valid until a nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers is implemented."...

http://www.lfpress.com/2015/12/07/iran-tested-missile-breaching-un-council-resolutions-report

...And you are a very useful idiot to the terrorist cause.

Brass

Mostly redundant gas and untrue whiny complaints about 'shout downs'..bottom line is that there is a plan in place going forward, if there is a significant breach by either side, it will be dealt with (as it should be), but not the way you would like......YOUR idea of military attack and war has been carefully placed on the back burner for now.   You are an un-useful (useless) idiot for your terroristic ideas...since your ideas have been shutdown by the current leadership....your kneejerk fear-laden 'bomb first' response has been rejected.

The significance of a level deal, and level-head responses, by default means you, and your impulsive responses are off the table.  Nations are not going to agree with the lopsided agreements you would prefer by threat of force.

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« Reply #3848 on: December 08, 2015, 12:06:39 PM »
Russia isn't really very close to Montenegro. Montenegro is much closer to Italy
for example. I'm not sure what Montenegro brings to the party however.

NATO invites Montenegro to join, angering Russia



http://news.yahoo.com/nato-invites-montenegro-join-alliance-stoltenberg-075330497.html
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« Reply #3849 on: December 08, 2015, 12:15:21 PM »
Nato invitation to Montenegro prompts Russia warning
Montenegro's accession would result in "retaliatory actions", said a
spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin.



read all about it here
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34981973
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