More Bad News for Russia

[ML]

Mike, your last message makes little sense as posted.

Where is the website you want us to visit to read about your posting?

[ML]

I guess Mike was intending to refer to this website:

http://all.true-news.info/elect-trump-for-the-position-of-chairman-of-the-dnis-office-is-putting-demanded-to-toughen-sanctions-against-russia/

Very weird and confusing translation, it seems.

[AkMike]

Sorry about that ML. This site has some hickups that screw up copy/pastes along with other problems that haven't been fixed.


 It was from the Voice Of America site. Ukie version.


http://ukrainian.voanews.com/a/den-kouts-rosiya-sankzii/3665925.html

[AkMike]

More on the Kerch Bridge from an article at Atlantic Council.


"And in December 2016, Yury Medovar from Russia’s Academy of Sciences [/size][/font][/size][/color][/size] that the bridge is being built without a proper design, since nobody wants to take responsibility for it. The bridge cannot be built, he said, and God help us if it is, since it can’t last."


http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-s-crimea-bridge-could-collapse-anytime

[JayH]

With so much uncertainty on how the  new Trump administration will deal with Russia and the FSU generally
every utterence is being analysed. Now it seems that several of Trump's prospective appointee's have offered views quite different to Trumps comments..

Is this the really BAD NEWS FOR RUSSIA?


Tillerson Takes Firm Stance On 'Resurgent' Russia In Senate Hearing

Tillerson told lawmakers that Washington should have advised Ukraine to move all available military assets to its eastern border and provide those assets with defensive weapons, U.S. or NATO air surveillance, and intelligence.

He added that Russia's leadership saw the Obama administration's response to Crimea as "weak."

http://www.rferl.org/a/trump-secretary-state-nominee-tillerson-russia-must-be-accountable-nato/28225007.html

[msmob]

More on the Kerch Bridge from an article at Atlantic Council.


"And in December 2016, Yury Medovar from Russia’s Academy of Sciences [/size][/font][/size][/color][/size] that the bridge is being built without a proper design, since nobody wants to take responsibility for it. The bridge cannot be built, he said, and God help us if it is, since it can’t last."


http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-s-crimea-bridge-could-collapse-anytime

Mikey, your link is more full of UA type righteous indignation - rather than factual reasons why the bridges won't get completed..

Yes, the UN Gen Assembly voted in favour of UA's resolution re the legality of Russia's military take-over and subsequent 'referendum'  - 100 - 11 - but it wasn't legally binding and the Ruskies vetoed the Sec. Council vote which would have been legally binding - even though they lost 13:1.

I have no idea if it will stay up, but the road bridge is well on it's way and will not 'obstruct' shipping, as 35m plus high ships do not generally navigate to the Asov Sea.

I don't approve of the Kremlin's methods to have arrived at the 'referendum'  - but this is just another article more designed to keep enraged locals happy  - rather than being mindful of the realities on the ground...

[onlyFSU4me]

To tell you the truth when they first announced they were starting the bridge I was surprised it was so soon. Usually it takes months or even a couple years to design a structure of that magnitude. And they have to go and map and test the sea floor to decide what kind of pilings to use, how deep to set them, etc.There is no basic application for these type of things, each situation is unique. I wasn't really surprised when I read that article.

[JayH]

Donald Trump's Pentagon pick, James 'Mad Dog' Mattis, says the US needs to be ready to confront Russia where necessary.

James Mattis says US needs to be ready to confront Russia

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-13/james-mattis-says-us-needs-to-be-ready-to-confront/8179980





The longer version of hearing

[JayH]

China's relationship with Russia has been discussed a few times here. Some of us repeatedly made the point that China would eat Russia-- at some stage !  It did not take long to be proven accurate . Also of note -- China has offered to help Ukraine in the east.

The biggest fear of Russia

The Kremlin no longer nourish no illusions about the cooperation with China, and the Russian authorities are most afraid that Russia will become a "younger sister of China", which is in every way superior to Russia, and in all respects

http://replyua.net/putin/52543-politolog-samyy-bolshoy-strah-rossii.html

[msmob]

JayH

I'm at a loss to find anything that backs up your contention that you've been proven correct in this article...

For sure, early noises from 'Tramp' had suggested he was more gunning more China than Russia and is prepared to 'forgive' Russia for away games in Ukraine...  Not something that is 'bad news ' for Putin's Russia...

The guy ( 'Tramp' - sounds better in Russian ) has already proven he says one thing to get attention / votes - but suggests he was joking or some other lame excuse now he's about - OMG - to get the football

You couldn't have written a blacker comedy movie about this...proving fact is stranger than fiction ..

Off to work in a garden and will studiously be avoiding any 'news' / TV, today - lest I catch a glimpse of 'Tramps' inauguration ))

[JayH]

 FORMER KGB spy chief suspected of helping Brit spook Christopher Steele compile the Trump ‘dirty dossier’ has been found dead in mysterious circumstances.
“Erovinkin’s body was sent to the FSB morgue”.

That morgue must be getting pretty full !!


DIRTY DOSSIER DEATH Russian spy linked to Donald Trump’s dirty dossier found DEAD in his car in Moscow

Oleg Erovinkin is suspected of being Brit spy Christopher Steele's key source behind widely discredited allegations against President Trump

http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2727446/russian-spy-donald-trump-dirty-dossier-dead-car-moscow/


 Former KGB general who helped MI6 spy compile the Donald Trump dirty dossier who has been found dead in the back of his car amid claims of a Kremlin cover up

Oleg Erovinkin was found dead on Boxing Day in the back of his black Lexus
The morgue in Russia has not reached a conclusion about the cause of death
Local media is claiming foul play was at the centre of him being killed in Moscow
It has been claimed Erovinkin is a key source mentioned in the explosive dossier

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4166610/Kremlin-covered-murder-former-KGB-chief.html

[JayH]

Maybe the UK is sending a message to Trump that the pressure must not be eased on Russia?
HMS Diamond, a Type 45 destroyer with anti-aircraft rockets, will go to Ukraine
It is part of the biggest British military build-up on Russia’s borders for decades
It comes as the PM told US politicians that Britain and USA should stand up Putin


Royal Navy warship to Black Sea after warning we must stand up to Russia

Britain is sending one of its most advanced warships to the Black Sea – the first time the Royal Navy has deployed there on an operational mission since the Cold War.

In a dramatic show of strength by Theresa May, HMS Diamond, a Type 45 destroyer equipped with the latest anti-aircraft rockets, will set sail for Ukraine carrying up to 60 Special Boat Service and Royal Marine commandos.

The move is part of the biggest British military build-up on Russia’s borders for decades, and comes after the Prime Minister told US politicians that Britain and America should stand up to President Vladimir Putin.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167612/HMS-Putin-Hunter-sends-Royal-Navy-ship-Black-Sea.html

[msmob]

Maybe the UK is sending a message to Trump that the pressure must not be eased on Russia?
HMS Diamond, a Type 45 destroyer with anti-aircraft rockets[?Moby], will go to Ukraine
It is part of the biggest British military build-up on Russia’s borders for decades
It comes as the PM told US politicians that Britain and USA should stand up Putin

Let's hope her engines don't pack up - still, it usually only happens on hot days ..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/12/23/rolls-royce-prepares-test-fix-unreliable-type-45-destroyer-engines/

''Rolls-Royce prepares to test 'fix' for unreliable Type 45 destroyer engines on the open sea''

The move is part of the biggest British military build-up on Russia’s borders for decades, and comes after the Prime Minister told US politicians that Britain and America should stand up to President Vladimir Putin.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167612/HMS-Putin-Hunter-sends-Royal-Navy-ship-Black-Sea.html

JayH doesn't understand the readership profile of the UK DM ... read by the blue rinse brigade who still think 'we' have an empire and a navy that sends warships to invoke gun boat diplomacy


It's just the UK saying - 'if you can send your smokey  'ol Admiral Smith carrier down the English Channel - we can visit the Black Sea ...

[JayH]

JayH doesn't understand the readership profile of the UK DM ... read by the blue rinse brigade who still think 'we' have an empire and a navy that sends warships to invoke gun boat diplomacy
.

Moby --really --you are hardly  The Times demographic --where you can also read the story.

Oh -wait--it requires an 8 quid subscription --maybe we can have a whip around to help you out with that?
Alternatively -- you can sign up for a free read of 2 articles per week -- which is probably beyond your reading comprehension !

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/past-six-days

Best you stick to looking at the pictures in the Sun !   

[msmob]

Moby --really --you are hardly  The Times demographic --where you can also read the story.

Yet you quoted the FREE online version of the Daily Mail ?!

Oh -wait--it requires an 8 quid subscription 

That explains why YOU didn't quote The Times..

This household pays your ex-Aussie News Mogul - Rupert Murdock's - News International considerably more for access to his TV channels - and I buy The Sunday Times..  if not sailing on a Sunday and the Independent on weekdays - if travelling ...   

Alternatively -- you can sign up for a free read of 2 articles per week -- which is probably beyond your reading comprehension !

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/past-six-days

Diversion, obfuscation and BS ... YOU used the Daily Mail - hence my mocking your 'news' ...

Your 'bad news' is hardly going to get the Russians nervous, anymore that I lost sleep knowing Admiral Smith' was puffing her way - accompanied by a tug - back up the English Channel from Syria...

Best you stick to looking at the pictures in the Sun !   

The reader may not know, but the Sun is a tabloid  - also owned by Rupert Murdock - who's target market is the male reader who doesn't care who runs Britain as long as they have nice 'hooters' ..   

JayH, The Sun might see the inside of this household wrapped in Fish 'n' Chips ... 

Sending a single ship - the Russians sent a convoy through the channel - put's your 'news' in perspective....

[JayH]

Diversion, obfuscation and BS ... YOU used the Daily Mail - hence my mocking your 'news' ...

I could have used this--but you don't like  Ukrainian sources -- so i was helping you out !
Needless to say you have failed to understand the significance of sending the ship.



Britain sent in Ukraine missile destroyer HMS Diamond for secret missions
It is noted that a military ship, equipped with the latest anti-aircraft missiles will arrive in the Black Sea and will protect 650 British soldiers involved in the secret exercises in Ukraine.

"Britain is sending a clear signal that we are committed to defending democracy around the world and support the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine", - said Michael Fallon, who is the defense minister of Great Britain.
http://www.amn.com.ua/podiyi/velykobrytaniya-napravyla-v-ukrayinu-raketnyj-esminets-hms-diamond-dlya-sekretnoyi-misiyi/

[msmob]

I could have used this--but you don't like  Ukrainian sources -- so i was helping you out !
Needless to say you have failed to understand the significance of sending the ship.

JayH, did you consider who has ''failed' ? You can use any source you like - but for goodness sake don't suggest it is 'bad news' for any one - when it clearly isnt.


The Russians sent a convoy through the English Channel this week - a far more powerful force - that really was bad news for the west ( hoping Assad would fall )and the majority ethnic grouping in E.Aleppo


Meanwhile, there is a treaty in place to limit how many non Black Sea Nations' ships can cruise on the Black Sea...   

[Anotherkiwi]

It is noted that a military ship, equipped with the latest anti-aircraft missiles will arrive in the Black Sea and will protect 650 British soldiers involved in the secret exercises in Ukraine.

Um...they're obviously not secret now! 

[JayH]

These geologists must be hopeless-- they need to ask Moby  for advice !!


Storm in Crimea destroyed building "Kerch bridge"
According to preliminary data, the damage from the storm is about 100 million rubles.

Storm in Crimea completely destroyed one of the sections of the construction of the bridge Kerch. Destroyed piles, reinforced concrete pipes, supports, all demolished in the sea - are self builders.

According to geologists, the storm was not significant. But even this does not stand not built bridge.

In case the maximum level mark a storm, the bridge would carry a whole, not to mention the seismic shocks, etc.

Experts claim the country's leadership that the bridge is not only advisable but also extremely dangerous, because it can not withstand the slightest storm.

http://www.amn.com.ua/podiyi/vse-sneslo-k-chertyam-shtorm-v-krymu-unychtozhyl-stroytelstvo-kerchenskogo-mosta-vydeo/

[whynotme]

These geologists must be hopeless-- they need to ask Moby  for advice !!


Storm in Crimea destroyed building "Kerch bridge"
According to preliminary data, the damage from the storm is about 100 million rubles.

Storm in Crimea completely destroyed one of the sections of the construction of the bridge Kerch. Destroyed piles, reinforced concrete pipes, supports, all demolished in the sea - are self builders.

According to geologists, the storm was not significant. But even this does not stand not built bridge.

In case the maximum level mark a storm, the bridge would carry a whole, not to mention the seismic shocks, etc.

Experts claim the country's leadership that the bridge is not only advisable but also extremely dangerous, because it can not withstand the slightest storm.

http://www.amn.com.ua/podiyi/vse-sneslo-k-chertyam-shtorm-v-krymu-unychtozhyl-stroytelstvo-kerchenskogo-mosta-vydeo/

Dear, don't cry too loud    Your hopes aren't fulfilled yet.
The weather in Crimea http://kerch.nuipogoda.ru/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%B2%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0  ...  Btw, video you posted was from 2011, Sochi.

[JayH]

Positively "warm" compared to Vladivistok  !

Social media was full of that video today  --only later did I find original  date ~  still -- it does show the power of Black Sea storms.

btw -- you spoilt Moby bait!

[msmob]

The video links no longer work

Yet, ANOTHER example of JayH not knowing the area and trusting 'bollox' data

[whynotme]

Positively "warm" compared to Vladivistok  !

Social media was full of that video today  --only later did I find original  date ~  still -- it does show the power of Black Sea storms.

btw -- you spoilt Moby bait!

The Kerch Strait belongs to the Sea of Azov. Teach materiel better 

[ML]

Um...they're obviously not secret now!

No, it's still a secret to the 650 guys involved.

[Anotherkiwi]

The Kerch Strait belongs to the Sea of Azov. Teach materiel better 

The Kerch Strait JOINS the two seas, and is less than 50 kilometres long.  A straight line from one end of the Strait to the other is about 35 kilometres, so it should be a pretty safe assumption that plenty of nasty storms originating in the Black Sea have passed through the area surrounding the Strait over the years and have ended up in the Sea of Azov - going right through the area where the bridge is being built.