HI from US :)

[kk3ds]

I've been exchanging emails with a few ladies in Ukraine and planning to go visit one of them in Poltava.  Has anyone heard of Unona agency in Poltava?  Are they trustworthy? 

[Shadow]

Why are you asking that? The agency actually does not matter a lot, it is the woman you should look in to.

[Hammer2722]

To try to answer your question, this forum usually recommends using dating sites that are free or use a monthly pay system where you have unlimited e-mail contact with the ladies. The site you mentioned works  a credit per letter system and just like the pay-per-letter systems, is very open to abuse by the agency.


Have you been able to Skype with the ladies you have been communicating with? It's usually one of the better ways to verify you been communicating with a real lady and not Boris- employee of the month or a translator posing as your lady of interest.

[kk3ds]

Thanks to all of your warm "WELCOME".  I am using two web sites, per mail charging sites, but one of them two charges only outgoing mails, and it's free to receive from the ladies.  Anyway, I've been to Ukraine once already in March but things didn't work.  Obviously meeting in person really makes the difference and you get to learn a lot more than just exchanging emails.  I've found another lady after the first visit Ukraine and I hope this lady is truly one I've been looking for.  I don't expect magic to happen when I meet her first time; but I'm willing to go visit many more in the future if we happen to feel chemistry when we meet the first time.

wish me luck and I'm looking forward to your many advices in the near future.

thanks to all 

[kk3ds]

I sent flowers to few different ladies to confirm their existence   the agencies sent me pictures of the ladies got the flowers

thanks for your advice

To try to answer your question, this forum usually recommends using dating sites that are free or use a monthly pay system where you have unlimited e-mail contact with the ladies. The site you mentioned works  a credit per letter system and just like the pay-per-letter systems, is very open to abuse by the agency.


Have you been able to Skype with the ladies you have been communicating with? It's usually one of the better ways to verify you been communicating with a real lady and not Boris- employee of the month or a translator posing as your lady of interest.

[calmissile]

I sent flowers to few different ladies to confirm their existence   the agencies sent me pictures of the ladies got the flowers

thanks for your advice

You will find many references here on the forum relating to scams.  One of the favorties is sending flowers.  In some/many cases the photos are taken only to make you believe that a woman in sincere.  In reality, she poses for the photo and shares in the money sent to pay for the flowers.

Opinions vary, but I would not send anything until you have met.  In a few cases it might be justified to pay her bus ticket or train ticket to meet you.  Whenever possible, offer to refund her rather than sending the money in advance.

Read a lot more about scams on the forum until you are sick of it!   You will then be better prepared to keep your money without compromising your chances of finding a sincere woman.

Nevertheless,  finding a wonderful, sincere, Ukrainian wife can make the rest of your life better than you ever imagined.  Just learn to avoid the land mines along the way.

[kk3ds]

thanks for the tip.  will do. 

You will find many references here on the forum relating to scams.  One of the favorties is sending flowers.  In some/many cases the photos are taken only to make you believe that a woman in sincere.  In reality, she poses for the photo and shares in the money sent to pay for the flowers.

Opinions vary, but I would not send anything until you have met.  In a few cases it might be justified to pay her bus ticket or train ticket to meet you.  Whenever possible, offer to refund her rather than sending the money in advance.

Read a lot more about scams on the forum until you are sick of it!   You will then be better prepared to keep your money without compromising your chances of finding a sincere woman.

Nevertheless,  finding a wonderful, sincere, Ukrainian wife can make the rest of your life better than you ever imagined.  Just learn to avoid the land mines along the way.

[LAman]

Thanks to all of your warm "WELCOME".  I am using two web sites, per mail charging sites, but one of them two charges only outgoing mails, and it's free to receive from the ladies.  Anyway, I've been to Ukraine once already in March but things didn't work.  Obviously meeting in person really makes the difference and you get to learn a lot more than just exchanging emails.  I've found another lady after the first visit Ukraine and I hope this lady is truly one I've been looking for.  I don't expect magic to happen when I meet her first time; but I'm willing to go visit many more in the future if we happen to feel chemistry when we meet the first time.

wish me luck and I'm looking forward to your many advices in the near future.

thanks to all 

That doesn't happen to be Natasha club or an affiliate?

[kk3ds]

No I am with MyPartnerForever and Ukrainebridesagency.  they seem legit than anastisia.com or whatever they are called which charges 1000s of $. 

I've been communicating with 3-4 and they all seem, hopefully, legit and I have a very good feelings about one of them.  To be honest I want to married to all  but the reality is that I'm allowed to choose only one right?  My backup plan is that if, for some reason, I don't feel chemistry, I'll ask for others to meet that I've been communicating with.  Meeting in person once beats exchanging 1000s of emails I believe.  Of course I've exchanged many mails the last 2-3 months and I think it's time to take the initiative to go see her.  I don't want to exchange mails endlessly and waste time and money on it.  I got the contact info but I wasn't able to talk as she can't speak english good enough, hence I'm going there to meet next month. 

wish me luck guys.  I shall update all of you all here.

thanks

That doesn't happen to be Natasha club or an affiliate?

[BillyB]

  I got the contact info but I wasn't able to talk as she can't speak english good enough, hence I'm going there to meet next month. 

Welcome to the forum kk3ds. Based on your posts you do a lot of emailing and little to no calling or skyping. The majority of guys who refuse to use other forms of communication besides emailing have one thing in common, failure. I've called women who spoke very little English but it was fun being on the phone with them and although it was difficult to communicate, they asked me not to leave so soon. They were thrilled to hear my voice.


You're willing to gamble thousands of dollars on a woman and you don't even know if she's happy you came into her life. Assuming you are communicating with the lady, not an agency employee, it's hard to read if she's really interested in you or if she gets a cut of every email you're paying for.


It's best you slow down some more and put some more effort into phone calling and skyping. I'm assuming your first and only phone call to the lady was awkward and that is why you don't want to call again and blaming it on language barrier. If you visit her, I'm going to predict your meeting with her will be awkward too. Find a lady who's thrilled to hear your voice every time you call even if you're not speaking her language, then talk about a meeting.

[calmissile]

kk3ds,

If you are not already doing so, try this link for two way translation.

http://clownfish-translator.com/

[kk3ds]

Thanks a lot for your input.  As you said obviously there is a language barrier; when I ask simple questions she answers back in Ukrainian...sigh... and when I call she speaks mostly Ukrainian which I can't understand.  Though every time I called her, she shows her sincere happiness by sending me a mail and saying she was happy that I called.  As far as I remember I called her about 6-7 times but I just don't know what to say when she says only Yes/No so I just asked few questions then I say bye.  She once asked trying skype but her work schedule allowed us to talk when it was 4am so I had to give up.  That's my fault I have to admit.  Unfortunately she doesn't have a pc and that was the only time she was able to go to the agency.  I will take your advice and will make some effort skyping but phone conversation is just not easy for us. 

thanks for all of your time and help here.

Welcome to the forum kk3ds. Based on your posts you do a lot of emailing and little to no calling or skyping. The majority of guys who refuse to use other forms of communication besides emailing have one thing in common, failure. I've called women who spoke very little English but it was fun being on the phone with them and although it was difficult to communicate, they asked me not to leave so soon. They were thrilled to hear my voice.


You're willing to gamble thousands of dollars on a woman and you don't even know if she's happy you came into her life. Assuming you are communicating with the lady, not an agency employee, it's hard to read if she's really interested in you or if she gets a cut of every email you're paying for.


It's best you slow down some more and put some more effort into phone calling and skyping. I'm assuming your first and only phone call to the lady was awkward and that is why you don't want to call again and blaming it on language barrier. If you visit her, I'm going to predict your meeting with her will be awkward too. Find a lady who's thrilled to hear your voice every time you call even if you're not speaking her language, then talk about a meeting.

[Shadow]

Thanks a lot for your input.  As you said obviously there is a language barrier; when I ask simple questions she answers back in Ukrainian...sigh... and when I call she speaks mostly Ukrainian which I can't understand.  Though every time I called her, she shows her sincere happiness by sending me a mail and saying she was happy that I called.  As far as I remember I called her about 6-7 times but I just don't know what to say when she says only Yes/No so I just asked few questions then I say bye.  She once asked trying skype but her work schedule allowed us to talk when it was 4am so I had to give up.  That's my fault I have to admit.  Unfortunately she doesn't have a pc and that was the only time she was able to go to the agency.  I will take your advice and will make some effort skyping but phone conversation is just not easy for us. 

thanks for all of your time and help here.

What are you planning to overcome the hurdle of being virtually unable to communicate directly?
If you called 6-7 times I presume you have her phone number, if you called only through the agency then it would be best to get her number.
I can 'forgive' if she does not have a PC, even if that is odd. But if the does not have a mobile phone I would tell you to let her go.
My inlaws are over 70 and pensioners, and they both have one, besides they are a lot cheaper as landlines.

[Anotherkiwi]

Thanks a lot for your input.  As you said obviously there is a language barrier; when I ask simple questions she answers back in Ukrainian...sigh... and when I call she speaks mostly Ukrainian which I can't understand.  Though every time I called her, she shows her sincere happiness by sending me a mail and saying she was happy that I called.

It's been said here ad nauseam - unless you yourself speak Russian and/or Ukrainian, don't bother looking for a FSUW unless they speak good English.  There are many thousands of women like that - why open yourself up to a lifetime of big misunderstandings because you don't speak each other's language?  I wouldn't necessarily agree in every case but, as a general rule, it makes a lot of sense.  Also, if you have already spoken several times, how much Ukrainian have you learnt?  If you still haven't even learnt one word she is not going to treat you as a serious contender in the boyfriend stakes.

As for sending you an email saying she's happy you called - sorry, but she can do that in the blink of an eye.  It doesn't mean it's true (although of course I would like to hope that it is).

As far as I remember I called her about 6-7 times but I just don't know what to say when she says only Yes/No so I just asked few questions then I say bye.

Then why don't you splurge for a three-way conversation with a translator of your choice?  There are three interpreter members here (Mila, Stirlitz and AnastassiaAsh) that I can immediately think of who would do this for you, and I'm sure there are plenty of others.  Doing this would also allow you to get a better handle on your "girlfriend's" feelings, because the translator is going to have a far better sense of HOW the responses are being said (not just WHAT is being said).

She once asked trying skype but her work schedule allowed us to talk when it was 4am so I had to give up.  That's my fault I have to admit.  Unfortunately she doesn't have a pc and that was the only time she was able to go to the agency.  I will take your advice and will make some effort skyping but phone conversation is just not easy for us. 

thanks for all of your time and help here.

Where do you live?  And what sort of job does she have?  If she has a normal day job, 4 am makes sense only if you live in New Zealand (like me) or eastern Australia.  If you're anywhere in the USA or Canada that would mean that she finishes work (or gets home) somewhere between noon and 3 pm.  I doubt that she would want you to contact her before she starts work, because the conversation could potentially last well past her start time.  Also, she hopefully doesn't work seven days a week, so there should be one or two days when you could try Skype at a more reasonable time for you.

...I can 'forgive' if she does not have a PC, even if that is odd. But if the does not have a mobile phone I would tell you to let her go.
My inlaws are over 70 and pensioners, and they both have one, besides they are a lot cheaper as than landlines.

I agree with Shadow - if she has a smartphone (and every young Ukrainian woman I saw had one) then she can Skype with you.  She can even get a friend who speaks English to sit beside her and translate as you go.

[Taikka]

No laptop, no smartphone, no english after some weeks of communications... In the Ukraine in 21 century?!?! Come on! Even my untutored (hope i use the right word) view that looks more than suspicious. 

[BillyB]

every time I called her, she shows her sincere happiness by sending me a mail and saying she was happy that I called.

If you're not calling through the agency, it's a good thing you have her private number. If you're not having to pay to receive or reply to her emails at the agency, it's a very good thing that you're communicating through private email and that she travels outside of home to send you an email after every time you call. She gets an "A" for effort as long as you're not paying for it.  If the woman really likes you and since she knows you're coming, she'd want to give you her private contact information and separate you from the agency to save you money and/or keep you from visiting the agency website where her competition is located at.


If you plan on using a translator for phone calls, there are some independent translators that advertise their services in one of the sections here. I've used the site below for translation on emails. If your lady has a @mail.ru account, she will have a build in translator she could use. Don't be afraid to ask questions pertaining to hot topics. At the forum, I've seen people become enemies over issues such as politics, religion, abortion, kids, etc.... Ask whatever deal breaker questions that affect you. Many women like these questions. By asking serious questions, it means you're serious when looking past their body and into their mind. It also means you're not going to marry any pretty face that comes along. You have requirements. You should also ask her if she's able to move to another country and what she thinks of America. If she hates America, it's probably wise not to live with someone who hates where she lives. These are some of the questions I ask before even making an offer to visit a woman overseas.

[steveboy]

No I am with MyPartnerForever and Ukrainebridesagency.  they seem legit than anastisia.com or whatever they are called which charges 1000s of $. 

I've been communicating with 3-4 and they all seem, hopefully, legit and I have a very good feelings about one of them.  To be honest I want to married to all  but the reality is that I'm allowed to choose only one right?  My backup plan is that if, for some reason, I don't feel chemistry, I'll ask for others to meet that I've been communicating with.  Meeting in person once beats exchanging 1000s of emails I believe.  Of course I've exchanged many mails the last 2-3 months and I think it's time to take the initiative to go see her.  I don't want to exchange mails endlessly and waste time and money on it.  I got the contact info but I wasn't able to talk as she can't speak english good enough, hence I'm going there to meet next month. 

wish me luck guys.  I shall update all of you all here.

thanks

Don't you think it is rather strange that you have been exchanging e mails with theses wonderful ladies for several months yet you haven't thought to go a step further and speak for real in Skype? Or maybe you have done this already.?

If you haven't then you are totally wasting your time and energy and probably $$$$
Any normal sane person would of requested video contact within 1 week if you sense there is some chemistry there? Not sit sending antiquated e mails for months on end?

 

[Patagonie]

Ok fellow,
I have glanced your sites, i give some credits to them especially mypartnerforever.
However i would you to stop to exchange mails with these women.
What does it mean ?
It means that learning russian at this stage would be really useful, more than the poor level (very poor) level of communication that you have set up for the moment.
You could perform better : rather than to dream about your future and masturbate on these lovely photos on the site, imagining all the humans qualities they have, and all the forms that can fulfill your bed, i would tell you that it is better to live your present, rather than evaporate yourself on a computer.
It means that you have a lot of free time and except your work your live seems to be empty. Which is a bad reason to chase a woman.
I don't want to hurt you, i just want you to build your life where you are. And when you will be ready to buy your ticket (one month in advance), you will be able to contact the girls of the city you are aiming for in FSU. Contact them with few mails, call them a little, skype with them a little, and come. THEIR INTEREST will be at the HIGHEST when you meet them.
During this time work your russian and your seduction, train your social skills, look a good porno every evening if you like, but stop to dream about women, that the best way to shoot yourself in the foot.

May you tell us more, why it didn't work last time ? What happened ?
The good new is that you started to taste the eastern dating, and believe me you have yet see nothing !!!

The guys who are writing here make a lot of common sense, aren't they  ?

Do you have a special talent to raise emotions in women's heart when you mail them ? If not, writing is barely a piece of shit in international dating.