Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.

[missAmeno]

US tells Russia where and when it can move its troops.
It is like Russia will tell Us to not move troops in Texas. another sovereign state they have invaded.

Fixed.

[AC]

So what? For the US, that doesn't mean anything. We do what we want, whenever and to whomever...

We do indeed, don't we?  IIRC the USA is in about 170 countries, but there is just one small difference between US and Russia -- they want us there.  Ukraine does not want Russia meddling in their country.

Capiche?  Of course not.  Some people are just stubborn and thick headed.

[AC]

Ha-Ha, I don't know how Russia will survive without MD or KFC
 

The McDonalds there are owned by Russians and Russian companies.  I don't know about the KFC's.  Either way, McDonalds in Russia are always packed, when they are open.  Apparently Russians like them.  Perhaps Putler should shut down all Vodka companies, since they are a greater health risk, no?

[GQBlues]

We do indeed, don't we?  IIRC the USA is in about 170 countries, but there is just one small difference between US and Russia -- they want us there.  Ukraine does not want Russia meddling in their country.

Capiche?  Of course not.  Some people are just stubborn and thick headed.

Really? Syria and Libya wanted us in their country? Can you please provide links or information supporting this stupidity? Last I know about, the US was fighting a very bloody war in Iraq against it's population for nearly a decade.

Which decaying, smelly snow cave in the Arctic did you crawled out of. Did you already forgot what I told you before about....

...fool..think...silence...speak....leave no doubt?

[Doll]

 

  US tells Russia where and when it can move its troops.
It is like Russia will tell Us to not move troops in Texas another sovereign state they have invaded.
US strongly mind moving troops in Rostov Region in RF territory.</blockquote>

   Fixed
 

   

[fathertime]

Really? Syria and Libya wanted us in their country? Can you please provide links or information supporting this stupidity? Last I know about, the US was fighting a very bloody war in Iraq against it's population for nearly a decade.

Which decaying, smelly snow cave in the Arctic did you crawled out of. Did you already forgot what I told you before about....

...fool..think...silence...speak....leave no doubt?

There are quite a few hypocrites here that think it is just fine for the USA to interfere with sovereign nations (because WE are the nanny and know best)....but if anybody other nation does something in the same vein, it is reason to start WWIII...  Much of the world has come to see though our 'help'...it is best if we take care of our own business and let the rest of the world handle their own.


Fathertime!   

[GQBlues]

Yeah well, take for instance, military drills and exercises....

The US/NATO condemned Russia for conducting military exercises not too long ago - 1,000 kilometers from the border with Ukraine, citing it's provocative and inciting and escalating further unrest and conflict.

YET - they see no problem planning on conducting military/naval exercises on the Black Sea and includes the Ukrainian navy. LMAO!

It's a damned good thing we are NOT involved and had been fomenting this stupid crisis. 

Oh and the new sanctions went underway today. The EU, along with the US, targeted Russia's financial and energy sectors...the EU meticulously made sure it stayed away from anything that have to do with the delivery of gas, LOL.

If people weren't dying in this freaking conflict, it had the notion to be the most hysterical display of hypocrisy ever seen in a while.
 

[lordtiberius]

a very dangerous man

[fathertime]

Yeah well, take for instance, military drills and exercises....

The US/NATO condemned Russia for conducting military exercises not too long ago - 1,000 kilometers from the border with Ukraine, citing it's provocative and inciting and escalating further unrest and conflict.

YET - they see no problem planning on conducting military/naval exercises on the Black Sea and includes the Ukrainian navy. LMAO!

It's a damned good thing we are NOT involved and had been fomenting this stupid crisis. 

Oh and the new sanctions went underway today. The EU, along with the US, targeted Russia's financial and energy sectors...the EU meticulously made sure it stayed away from anything that have to do with the delivery of gas, LOL.

If people weren't dying in this freaking conflict, it had the notion to be the most hysterical display of hypocrisy ever seen in a while.

The hypocrisy displayed by the USA has been off the charts. Many people see it nowadays, but are relatively powerless to do much about it...FOR NOW.   


The sanctions are ineffective, and appear to be designed that way.


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

The hypocrisy displayed by the USA has been off the charts. Many people see it nowadays, but are relatively powerless to do much about it...FOR NOW.   


The sanctions are ineffective, and appear to be designed that way.


Fathertime!

I completely agree with this

[AC]

Really? Syria and Libya wanted us in their country? Can you please provide links or information supporting this stupidity? Last I know about, the US was fighting a very bloody war in Iraq against it's population for nearly a decade.

Which decaying, smelly snow cave in the Arctic did you crawled out of. Did you already forgot what I told you before about....

...fool..think...silence...speak....leave no doubt?

Apparently you are not capable of reading or even watching the news.  The Arab League invited the West, led by the USA, to do away with Qadaffi's forces, and then they finished him off.  Do you dispute that?  Not sure what 3rd World country you come from either, but it's obvious that English is not your first language.  Especially when Mr. Stirlitz, who speaks, reads and writes fluent Russian because that's what he was born doing, writes far more precise English than you.

And yes, there are millions of Syrians who also have been begging for assistance from the USA and the EU.  Of course you likely deny that they have been murdered with poisonous gas; so what they say doesn't matter to you, correct? 

[GQBlues]

Apparently you are not capable of reading or even watching the news.  The Arab League invited the West, led by the USA, to do away with Qadaffi's forces, and then they finished him off.  Do you dispute that?...

Don't be ignorant. No invitation by any nation to invade another country gives anyone the right to invade a sovereign nation. A UN resolution must first be in place giving passage for legal intervention. This is what happened in Libya. This is why nations, including the US, bombed its government officials and forces to oblivion. That should have explained to you WHY the US was there. Not because *they want us there*, LMAO.

Since then, the very same militants - the ones we armed and assisted for the coup - bombed our embassy and killed our ambassador and marines. An event your president lied to you about. Soon after that, they chased us all out of town. So *they wanting us there* is an idiotic statement to make. But considering it came from you, it is par for the course.

Iran took over 52 hostages and held them for 444 straight days when they took over our Embassy. Since then, we've had no delegations in Tehran and certainly it doesn't mean *they want us there*.

Pakistanis are bombed by our drones inside their border without the approval of the Pakistani government, the UN, nor anyone. That doesn't mean *they want us there*.

Ask any Okinawans if *they want us there*.
http://news.yahoo.com/plan-move-highlights-us-problem-okinawa-073216414.html

Ask any indigenous Hawaiians if they want to continue to be 5-0 much less *want us there*. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/20/feds-native-hawaiian-recognition_n_5516823.html

Do you think the majority of Germans/Europe *want us there*?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2012/05/22/shock-poll-51-of-voters-want-us-troops-out-of-europe/

I could go on to show you how ignorant you really are, but that is a clear exercise in futility.

... Not sure what 3rd World country you come from either, but it's obvious that English is not your first language.  Especially when Mr. Stirlitz, who speaks, reads and writes fluent Russian because that's what he was born doing, writes far more precise English than you....

LMAO! Your pathetic attempt to disparage above only displayed your seething insecurity and deeply-seeded inferiority. A single language speaking person trying to insult a 4 language speaking person is downright laughable, if not outright stupid.

....And yes, there are millions of Syrians who also have been begging for assistance from the USA and the EU....

You see what I mean? Bashar Asaad just recently won a landslide presidential election with an 88.7% majority. For you to be shooting from the hip to make a very stupid remark about *millions of Syrians* begging us for assistance is just classically moronic.

Who are these *millions of Syrians*, I dare ask? LOL. Anyone you know? Masood and his goat? Maybe Abdullah and his cousins? What in the world is wrong with you?

Of course you likely deny that they have been murdered with poisonous gas; so what they say doesn't matter to you, correct?..

...and this has got to do with your claim about nations *wanting us to be there* exactly how?

Do you even have an idea how many times the US had gassed not only nations but even its own citizens? I bet you didn't, did you? Did we ever give a fock whatever other countries felt about our arrogance in this regard? Fcok no..

Dude...fool...silent...speak...NO DOUBT.

[missAmeno]

US strongly mind moving troops in Rostov Region in RF territory.

You mean those troops that aka stationed in Rostav but dying on Ukrainian soil and buried worse that dogs still on Ukrainian soil? Or you mean troops aka stationed in Rostov that get shipped back to Russia from Ukraine in cargo 200? Oh my mistake I forgot kind Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev supplied in Rostov crematorium trucks, so now I assume you are talking about troops aka stationed in Rostov but returning home in ash urns? My mistake again russian authorities do not respect their service men, so you probably mean troops aka stationed in Rostov, returned from Ukraine in cargo 200, burned in crematorium trucks kindly supplied by caring russian authorities, ashes of who dumped somewhere who knows where and to families and relatives provided fairytale about those service men getting lost on Ukrainian border? Or do you actually mean those lucky ones who are stationed in Rostov few miles from Ukrainian border but at nights launching rockets and missiles over border?

[Doll]

Apparently you are not capable of reading or even watching the news.     

What news? US?

[Doll]

You mean those troops that aka stationed in Rostav but dying on Ukrainian soil and buried worse that dogs still on Ukrainian soil? Or you mean troops aka stationed in Rostov that get shipped back to Russia from Ukraine in cargo 200? Oh my mistake I forgot kind Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev supplied in Rostov crematorium trucks, so now I assume you are talking about troops aka stationed in Rostov but returning home in ash urns? My mistake again russian authorities do not respect their service men, so you probably mean troops aka stationed in Rostov, returned from Ukraine in cargo 200, burned in crematorium trucks kindly supplied by caring russian authorities, ashes of who dumped somewhere who knows where and to families and relatives provided fairytale about those service men getting lost on Ukrainian border? Or do you actually mean those lucky ones who are stationed in Rostov few miles from Ukrainian border but at nights launching rockets and missiles over border?

I mean-it is the territory of RF. What does USA have to do with it?
(Dare to prove what you wrote in your post? Any official infor?)

[missAmeno]

I mean-it is the territory of RF. What does USA have to do with it?

Donetsk, Luhansk and Mariupol is not territory of RF. Rostov is territory of RF but neither being territory of RF it is acceptable to use it for shooting missiles on territory of another sovereign state.

(Dare to prove what you wrote in your post? Any official infor?)

What do you consider to be 'official info'? Official info from Ukraine, USA and EU countries you are rejecting, russian authorities outright lying to everyone same way as they have lie previously so you won't get any truthful official info from them.

[Doll]

Да ну ужОс. Мисс Амено, я по-русски уже: я пишу об "озабоченности" США о 1) учениях в Астрахани 2)  передвижении рос войск по территории России (Рост область и иже). Рос-тов-ская область (и Астрахань).
Так понятно?
 
Sorry guys for Russian- I couldn't ANY MORE write same things in English.
I am not Stirlitz with his perfect English.

[lordtiberius]

Dude...fool...silent...speak...NO DOUBT.

RuPaul is right.  Blame America for everything!



And Russia is always right!

[lordtiberius]

You mean those troops that aka stationed in Rostav but dying on Ukrainian soil and buried worse that dogs still on Ukrainian soil? Or you mean troops aka stationed in Rostov that get shipped back to Russia from Ukraine in cargo 200? Oh my mistake I forgot kind Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev supplied in Rostov crematorium trucks, so now I assume you are talking about troops aka stationed in Rostov but returning home in ash urns? My mistake again russian authorities do not respect their service men, so you probably mean troops aka stationed in Rostov, returned from Ukraine in cargo 200, burned in crematorium trucks kindly supplied by caring russian authorities, ashes of who dumped somewhere who knows where and to families and relatives provided fairytale about those service men getting lost on Ukrainian border? Or do you actually mean those lucky ones who are stationed in Rostov few miles from Ukrainian border but at nights launching rockets and missiles over border?

Да, Россия всегда прав. смотрите на эти кадры. Это Ростов, Украина. Посмотрите, как укроп относиться друг к другу?

[fathertime]

You see what I mean? Bashar Asaad just recently won a landslide presidential election with an 88.7% majority. For you to be shooting from the hip to make a very stupid remark about *millions of Syrians* begging us for assistance is just classically moronic.

Who are these *millions of Syrians*, I dare ask? LOL. Anyone you know? Masood and his goat? Maybe Abdullah and his cousins? What in the world is wrong with you?

 


If we find our way into Syria and wind up somehow weakening Assad to the point where he is killed, then that will leave that option on the table for any other large powerful nation to do the same.  If Russia were to concoct a reason to do the same with Porky, the USA would be 'aghast' with horror...although we would have done the same thing...of course we would frame it differently in order to make it 'seem' right. 


Fathertime! 

[lordtiberius]

 


If we find our way into Syria and wind up somehow weakening Assad to the point where he is killed, then that will leave that option on the table for any other large powerful nation to do the same.  If Russia were to concoct a reason to do the same with Porky, the USA would be 'aghast' with horror...although we would have done the same thing...of course we would frame it differently in order to make it 'seem' right. 


Fathertime!

Ever been to the Middle East?  Yes or no

[BillyB]

  IIRC the USA is in about 170 countries,

With Russia and China being active, that number went up. Recently, the Baltics, Poland, and Philippines are getting our troops.

Ask any Okinawans if *they want us there*.
http://news.yahoo.com/plan-move-highlights-us-problem-okinawa-073216414.html

Do you think the majority of Germans/Europe *want us there*?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2012/05/22/shock-poll-51-of-voters-want-us-troops-out-of-europe/

Those people who voted aren't responsible for the existence of the nation they live in. They did vote in the politicians to run their country. Fortunately their politicians are smarter than they.


No matter how you spin the majority of people in this world hate America, America is the first they call when they need help and if people of this world could vote on where they want to live, America is #1. Hate the truth all you want but I seriously doubt you are remotely considering moving back home to the Philippines or moving to your wife's country, Russia.

[ghost of moon goddess]

Doll, you have also requested MissAmeno to provide any 'official source' to confirm information contained in her post, haven't you? 

You mean those troops that aka stationed in Rostav but dying on Ukrainian soil and buried worse that dogs still on Ukrainian soil? Or you mean troops aka stationed in Rostov that get shipped back to Russia from Ukraine in cargo 200? Oh my mistake I forgot kind Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev supplied in Rostov crematorium trucks, so now I assume you are talking about troops aka stationed in Rostov but returning home in ash urns? My mistake again russian authorities do not respect their service men, so you probably mean troops aka stationed in Rostov, returned from Ukraine in cargo 200, burned in crematorium trucks kindly supplied by caring russian authorities, ashes of who dumped somewhere who knows where and to families and relatives provided fairytale about those service men getting lost on Ukrainian border? Or do you actually mean those lucky ones who are stationed in Rostov few miles from Ukrainian border but at nights launching rockets and missiles over border?

I mean-it is the territory of RF. What does USA have to do with it?
(Dare to prove what you wrote in your post? Any official infor?)

Quotes from the 'Weekly update from the OSCE Observer Mission at the Russian Checkpoints Gukovo and Donetsk, 28 August until 08:00, 3 September 2014'

''In the past weeks, artillery detonations and shootings had been heard only from western and northern directions; but throughout the week for the first time OTs reported light and heavy calibre shootings from the east and south-east areas which are also bordering Ukraine.

Throughout the week, OTs observed a net increase in activity of young people dressed in military style crossing back and forth at the Border Crossing Point. OTs also observed some of these people visibly wounded crossing back into the Russian Federation with white bandages and/or crutches. OTs also observed transfers of more seriously-wounded persons by ambulances. Some people dressed in military style were accompanying the wounded and were particularly well-equipped including holsters but without weapons.

In one instance, an OT observed eight young men dressed in military style carrying two heavy stretchers loaded with boxes. The stretchers were visibly heavy (more than a hundred kilograms) because the groups were stopping every 30 to 50 metres to recover. The OT observed Border Crossing Point officials checking the boxes with metal detectors. The OT asked Border Crossing Point officials about the content of the boxes and was told that it was food products''

I thought the ''unofficial info'' provided by ordinary Russian citizens who are not indifferent to what's going on in their country and Ukraine might be interesting to read.
The dots Russian authorities (and Belvis )  refuse to connect:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Груз-200-из-Украины-в-Россию/763463900366139
http://censor.net.ua/resonance/301506/ih_ne_prosto_obmanuli_ih_unizili_pskovskiyi_aktivist_o_pogibshih_desantnikah
http://censor.net.ua/resonance/301105/rossiyiskih_soldat_prosto_brosili_poluchat_dengi_za_schet_jizni_ukraintsev_osnovatel_gruppy_gruz200
http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/65127.html
http://issuu.com/novayagazeta/docs/novgaz-pdf__2014-095n/2?e=3174214/9188571

[missAmeno]

Да ну ужОс. Мисс Амено, я по-русски уже: я пишу об "озабоченности" США о 1) учениях в Астрахани 2)  передвижении рос войск по территории России (Рост область и иже). Рос-тов-ская область (и Астрахань).
Так понятно?
 
Sorry guys for Russian- I couldn't ANY MORE write same things in English.
I am not Stirlitz with his perfect English.

Doll, you are refusing to understand if Russia would not have invaded Ukraine, USA (and other countries also) would not have been so "озабочены" about Russia pulling more and more troops to the border of Ukraine and testing long-range antiaircraft missiles less than 800km away from Ukrainian border.

Так понятно?

[Doll]

Doll, you are refusing to understand if Russia would not have invaded Ukraine, USA (and other countries also) would not have been so "озабочены" about Russia pulling more and more troops to the border of Ukraine and testing long-range antiaircraft missiles less than 800km away from Ukrainian border.

Так понятно?

One more time- what does US have to do with it?