Chinese Troops on Russia's borders

[lordtiberius]

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/10/russias-pacific-activity-a-show-of-force-or-more.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/china-moves-troops-to-the-border-w-russia-something-smells-bad/

[lordtiberius]

Russia nervous about frenemy:

 

[lordtiberius]

China winning the Russo-Ukrainian War:

http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/ukraine-conflict-has-been-a-lift-for-china-scholars-say/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Bend over Putin Lovers

[fathertime]

China winning the Russo-Ukrainian War:

http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/ukraine-conflict-has-been-a-lift-for-china-scholars-say/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Bend over Putin Lovers

The strengthening of China is not a bad thing for Russia.  Politically they are allies, whereas China opposes the USA.  If anything it is bend over USA...and it is self-inflicted.


Fathertime!   

[fathertime]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/13/us-russia-economy-china-idUSKBN0H80BH20140913?feedType=RSS


According to this link from today, China and Russia are partnering together now on almost everything.  China is helping Russia bypass sanctions, as they were sanctioned themselves.  Anyone can see how China has thrived since those sanctions in 1989.  With both China and Russia actively working against the USA, we are in for a long and unnecessary world disturbance, because of our overactive role in Ukraine, before and after the recent dust up.   In our never-ending quest to weaken and demonize Russia, we have opened up a can of worms with wide ranging consequences. 


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

We can find common ground FT.  You hate America.  I hate only certain kinds of Americans.



China is expanding its economic empire.  Why colonize Africa, when Russia is right next door?  If you talk to Russians, and I know you do, I do too, they hate Chinese more than they hate us.  As a matter of fact, Russians hate Chinese about as much as you hate Americans.

[fathertime]

We can find common ground FT.  You hate America.  I hate only certain kinds of Americans.



China is expanding its economic empire.  Why colonize Africa, when Russia is right next door?  If you talk to Russians, and I know you do, I do too, they hate Chinese more than they hate us.  As a matter of fact, Russians hate Chinese about as much as you hate Americans.

You have committed to 'hating americans'...I have NOT...I happen to really enjoy life here and most of the people I associate with....I generally do NOT approve of our outrageous foreign policy.

We can find common ground FT.  You hate America.  I hate only certain kinds of Americans.
  If you talk to Russians, and I know you do, I do too, they hate Chinese more than they hate us. As a matter of fact, Russians hate Chinese about as much as you hate Americans.

Your constant broad characterizations of 'who hates who' only indicate your own mindset.  For two peoples that supposedly 'hate' each other they seem to be getting along fairly well.  I believe it is YOU that does most of the hating, and then try to project it onto other peoples.


Fathertime!   

[lordtiberius]

Ok, FT. I agree.  Win Win.

[lordtiberius]

http://www.infowars.com/report-china-moves-12000-troops-to-russian-border/

at least 12,000 heavily armed Chinese troops have been moved to the border with Russia as tensions in the region continue to build.

http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http://uainfo.org/blognews/391146-kitay-styagivaet-svoi-voyska-k-granice-s-rossiey.html&edit-text=

Russian FSB Border service as saying that Beijing began dispatching troops to the border on September 6, with 12-15,000 soldiers making the trip backed by heavy artillery.

[alex330]

Maybe the US has a back alley deal with China to shed some of our debt?   

[lordtiberius]

China has always needed us more than we need them

[fathertime]

China has always needed us more than we need them

I don't think either country has to have the other one...but I do know we are running up debt to China.

[lordtiberius]

You are a China expert now?

[fathertime]

You are a China expert now?

If making a comment on thread makes me a China expert in your eyes that is ok with me.  What I can say with certainty is that YOU are not an expert on China. 


Fathertime! 

[lordtiberius]

If making a comment on thread makes me a China expert in your eyes that is ok with me.  What I can say with certainty is that YOU are not an expert on China. 


Fathertime!

Another insult thread, can you make any argument without insults?  If you hate me so much, why do you keep commenting on my threads?  If you don't want to back up your words with action, why not just ignore me?  Do you enjoy making derogatory and insulting remarks to strangers without any responsibility attached?  That can not be good.

[fathertime]

Another insult thread, can you make any argument without insults?  If you hate me so much, why do you keep commenting on my threads?  If you don't want to back up your words with action, why not just ignore me?  Do you enjoy making derogatory and insulting remarks to strangers without any responsibility attached?  That can not be good.

I never said I 'hated' you.  Those are YOUR words, as you continue to demonstrate, it is always about 'hating' 'hating' 'hating'.   Two days ago you moaned that you were done with my posts and i was going on ignore, but you haven't followed through.  I have no intention on putting you on 'ignore' as I don't mind responding to what I see as opinions I don't agree with.  Of course I respond 'in kind'...when somebody makes an argument respectfully I do the same...In your case that is not how it works...so i have no idea why you are complaining.


Fathertime! 

[lordtiberius]

I don't want to discuss an issue with anyone if it's all insults.  Sorry

[LiveFromUkraine]

The victim card gets old.

[fathertime]

I don't want to discuss an issue with anyone if it's all insults.  Sorry

Well if you can't improve the way you post, then you are going to continue to feel insulted...that is no concern of mine.  I'm perfectly content to post polite responses to polite people.


Fathertime!   

[Anotherkiwi]

...I'm perfectly content to post polite responses to polite people.


Fathertime!

This is why you "politely" call Boethius a liar in every response you make to her posts?

I'm glad I'm not such an expert on Ukraine - you might then be tempted to call me a liar, too!

[fathertime]

This is why you "politely" call Boethius a liar in every response you make to her posts?

That is both a lie, and not taking into account some of what I have considered impolite responses to me.  Like most people I respond in the same manner I'm responded to...and YES I do think she intentionally misrepresents things, or has lies of omission.     


Fathertime!

[Anotherkiwi]

That is both a lie, and not taking into account some of what I have considered impolite responses to me.  Like most people I respond in the same manner I'm responded to...and YES I do think she intentionally misrepresents things, or has lies of omission.     


Fathertime!

Remember this from a couple of weeks ago?

from: fathertime on September 02, 2014, 07:45:19 AM

Not everything the ladies here have posted is a lie, like you were pleading in this last post….just   some of their representations of the position I’ve taken are!   I’m not telling anybody else how to feel, like you are…I’m expressing my relatively unpopular viewpoint on the subject.



No?  Then how can you explain these responses to Boethius?



Quote from: fathertime on September 01, 2014, 08:21:56 PM

When a person (like you) knowingly omits all the “if’s”  and “then’s” of another’s position and then simply boils it into a one-liner, that is lying, and that is what you almost always do.





Quote from: fathertime on September 01, 2014, 08:57:38 PM

…I find your opinions rather biased and your ‘facts’ not to be trusted, so we can call it about even. 





Quote from: fathertime on September 02, 2014, 07:47:57 AM

I believe you are perpetuating falsehoods once again, as if they are fact....about the same as lying.

[fathertime]

Remember this from a couple of weeks ago?

Yes I do...and so?  I posted, and meant every word of them, those posts are consistent with what I just said in my latest post.  I do believe that botheius makes lies of omission and is fatally biased.


Fathertime!   

[Drew]

According to this link from today, China and Russia are partnering together now on almost everything.  China is helping Russia bypass sanctions, as they were sanctioned themselves. 

I think this is a good idea.

Let China cozy up to Russia and its vast land area and resources that stretch over to China.  Let China get a foothold, and then a large step and then even larger steps.

China will eventually control all of current RF up to the Ural mountains anyway, some day.  The more partnership agreements China can strike with Russia in the near term, just means they can accelerate their takeover of current Russian territory.

Let's see now, how big will an only-European Russia be, and what resources will it have?

[lordtiberius]

http://rbth.asia/society/2013/05/25/the_key_to_a_happy_russo-chinese_marriage_46943.html
http://rbth.asia/society/2013/06/18/russian-chinese_marriages_love_or_convenience_47399.html