The New Look: Old Look to Anastasia Date

[JayH]

a poster said it publicly, and you jumped up and down crying liar liar...but I also do recall you saying something very much like that myself during a group chat session, back when I thought you were more respectful...


Fathertime!

Another lie-- I have NEVER said any such thing--you know full well that when it was said recently--I refuted it( after initially ignoring it) --but given fools like you choosing to repeat those lies -I corrected it. You read that--but still keep repeating it!
You are beneath contempt-- a disgusting individual-- and proven liar.

[JayH]

That's not an emotional response?

You ask an incoherent series of questions, without any specifics, I answered it, and now you make all these wild allegations.

Anyone with the audacity to say their POV applies to all of Ukraine, is suffering from type of hubris beyond the help of this forum.

Geez! Some crazy people out there.

OK-- so I decide to say you are a child molester-- because I don't like your reply/ I then repeat that in every post-- would you appreciate that?
I still note you did not answer my question.
Generally speaking--I would have left it at that--but you choose to attack my credibility-- so lets see what  your answer is.

NB-- after having pointed out the fallacy of the lie you repeated in post-- anyone with  half a brain would have been contrite and removed the offensive part

[RoboCop]

OK-- so I decide to say you are a child molester-- because I don't like your reply/ I then repeat that in every post-- would you appreciate that?
I still note you did not answer my question.
Generally speaking--I would have left it at that--but you choose to attack my credibility-- so lets see what  your answer is.

NB-- after having pointed out the fallacy of the lie you repeated in post-- anyone with  half a brain would have been contrite and removed the offensive part

Just to clarify JayH, I don't see you as an enemy or anything, but my previous attempt at answering your question resulted in an emotional and irrational response. Sometimes it's just better to walk away from things than add fuel to the fire.

[fathertime]

To repeat it-- making a fiction created by a fool--then being picked up by a liar-- and repeated and repeated and repeated-- with only one intent--to get a reaction --in an attempt to ridicule--it totally dishonest. If the mods do nothing about him-- every thread deteriorates and that is not what the forum is about.
That particular lie-- was refuted immediately--yet FT has tried in numerous threads to illicit a response that has zero to do with the thread-- about time the mods did something permanently about him.
Above-- you see an example of that lie being used --given the basis of that lie-it illustrates why such a lie is damaging-- and a diversion.

I think if you were capable of discussing the ideas of Robo's without resorting to trying to discredit him, it would have been a different discussion.


 Yes you did mention a long history of visiting Ukraine and having no (poor) results.   10 years?  More?  That I obviously don't know, as I think it makes you feel important to keep secrets.  Considering your own personal experience hasn't taken you very far, I don't know why you would aggressively start attacking another guy (with good results)who brought up valid points from his POV...which I find generally more believable than what you are saying.   You don't handle being contradicted very gracefully, and that is YOUR problem. 


Fathertime!   

[fathertime]

He's a truck driver whom I actually met once. Not a redneck though. Married to a Russian.

Man Robo, your wife is spectacular looking...Great job and continued good fortune with the growing family!


Fathertime!   

[JayH]

I think if you were capable of discussing the ideas of Robo's without resorting to trying to discredit him, it would have been a different discussion.


 Yes you did mention a long history of visiting Ukraine and having no (poor) results.
1/ 10 years?
 More?  That I obviously don't know, as I think it makes you feel important to keep secrets.

2/ Considering your own personal experience hasn't taken you very far,

3/I don't know why you would aggressively start attacking another guy (with good results)who brought up valid points from his POV...which I find generally more believable than what you are saying.   You don't handle being contradicted very gracefully, and that is YOUR problem. 


Fathertime!

More repetitioin of the lies-- you simply dont know any of this-- so why choose to make it up.
1/10 years =-== wrong  simply untrue lie

2/  You no zero of my life-- so why make it up?    another lie

3/  A guy wants to dispute my conclusions-- so I ask what sample he is basing his comments on. Needless to say you attempt to combine a series of lies to in a warped attempt to attack me

YOUR Problem is that you are a proven liar

[fathertime]

More repetitioin of the lies-- you simply dont know any of this-- so why choose to make it up.
1/10 years =-== wrong  simply untrue lie

2/  You no zero of my life-- so why make it up?    another lie

3/  A guy wants to dispute my conclusions-- so I ask what sample he is basing his comments on. Needless to say you attempt to combine a series of lies to in a warped attempt to attack me

YOUR Problem is that you are a proven liar

Yes, yes...here and there, you have let little comments slip out of your guarded mouth (an apparent message to LT) a slip of the tongue in the chatroom, etc etc....I don't really care about your personal life, but I do like to hear different opinions on matters without you aggressively trying to discredit people.   When you do this, you can expect to take some flack...if you can't handle it that is ok with me, but you can still expect it, as it is an effective measure to get you to pipe down.    Better luck in your LONG search!   


Fathertime! 

[AC]

That's not an emotional response?

You ask an incoherent series of questions, without any specifics, I answered it, and now you make all these wild allegations.

Anyone with the audacity to say their POV applies to all of Ukraine, is suffering from a hubris beyond the help of this forum.

Agreed.  Jay seems like a good guy mostly but he tends to hyper-ventilate sometimes.

[AC]

He's a truck driver whom I actually met once. Not a redneck though. Married to a Russian.

That's great!  Some pretentious posters here try to put down regular people.  I prefer them. 

[iceshaft07]

I saw a lot of arguing over hypothisis so I'm going to drop an impartial math bomb here...

For statistics to be reflective of the population you are measuring, you need an evenly distributed sample of 30 subjects.

I can find this somewhere in my statistics book if you'd like :-).

[jone]

Iceshaft,

If you and your woman do eventually wind up together, I'm certain that ADate would love to put you up on their billboard.  They have so few success stories and so many patrons that every success story is worth its weight in gold.  One thing I noted that after a year hiatus from the site, they were still using the same people as their successes a year later, even though they had countless introductions in my absence. 

As for your statistical model, it has been done here on the forum.  We, one time, took all of the new sign-ups (you can selectively search for these) and posted the numbers on the forum.  I believe that the 19-25 category (the group with the most proven scammers) were 85% of the new sign-ups.  This, of course, is because the agencies who are there to make money off the women, are recruiting the prettiest available and putting their pictures up.

[Muzh]

Just to clarify JayH, I don't see you as an enemy or anything, but my previous attempt at answering your question resulted in an emotional and irrational response. Sometimes it's just better to walk away from things than add fuel to the fire.

I really most have been bored when I clicked on this thread. I have to thank some here for the comic relief.


Roboman, I wholeheartedly agree with you with the above highlighted. 


The problem is that there are some walking around the "usual suspects" with kindling wood and stoking the flames. For example, go back to your original response and and follow the kindling wood. 


Anyway, let's say that I sort of agree with your premise, namely that average Joe can do much better in the former Soyuz, babe-wise.


Some years back when the dinosaurs still roamed freely, I was visiting my outlaws with my wife. We were in the kitchen and the radio was on. The family was talking among themselves when they suddenly became quiet. It seems they got immersed in the conversation going on the radio between the DJ and a listener. Suddenly, a burst of laughter.


I asked what happened. It was International Women's day and all sorts of celebrations were happening. This radio was having a contest giving away a nice dinner for two at a restaurant based on the best "Man-loves-woman story." This lady decided to say her piece. The short story is that her husband works hard everyday and makes money to pay the bills. When all the bills are paid he tells her he is going out with his buddies and get drunk. Then he will come home. And then he does.


The DJ, perplexed asks her how she tolerates this? She responds that he is a hard worker, takes care of the bills, never beats her, and always tells her the truth. What more can she ask for?


So, yes. There is a chance for the average Joe.

[iceshaft07]

Well I think the lucks in my favor at this point. I've met her family, I've been to her house, and we have an I-129F in the process. She's 30 and I'm 28, so I think I'm lucky there.

So far, everything seems in order. She seems like she cares for me.

I sincerely do think I'm one of the lucky ones. I agree, I think a lot of the women on there are fake.

I'm hoping to post on here more frequently and become an active member of the community.

Either way, in another 8-10 months you'll either hear how happy I am for my marriage,  or a war story of how I got scammed. Based off of everything I've been hearing, signs point to the former :-).

[AC]

Well I think the lucks in my favor at this point. I've met her family, I've been to her house, and we have an I-129F in the process. She's 30 and I'm 28, so I think I'm lucky there.

So far, everything seems in order. She seems like she cares for me.

I sincerely do think I'm one of the lucky ones. I agree, I think a lot of the women on there are fake.

I'm hoping to post on here more frequently and become an active member of the community.

Either way, in another 8-10 months you'll either hear how happy I am for my marriage,  or a war story of how I got scammed. Based off of everything I've been hearing, signs point to the former :-).

Great story -- post more often!